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The Let’s Go To Court podcast brings together two of the greatest legal minds of our time. Just kidding.

We’re your hosts Kristin Caruso and Brandi Pond. What we lack in legal training we more than make up for in being completely obsessed with lawsuits. Every week, we discuss two juicy legal battles. Each episode is peppered with Brandi’s booming laugh and Kristin’s Olympic-level talent for putting the word “so” into every sentence.

The podcast started in 2018, but we’ve been having these conversations for years. What can we say? We’re just a couple of lifelong friends who love the drama of a trial. Our other interests include: liquid eyeliner, Fresca, and begging Noodles and Company to bring back the spicy chicken caesar wrap.
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In this final episode of Let’s Go To Court, Kristin takes us full circle — with a con man. In his hometown of Wellsville, New York, Paul Ceglia was known for his dishonesty. He always had a scheme going. He often got caught. In fact, he got caught in 2009 running a fraudulent business. But our pal Paul claims that it was in that dark moment, with the government coming after him, he discovered something incredible. While going through his old files, he found a contract that had been signed by an 18-year-old Mark Zuckerberg. According to that contract, Paul was the rightful owner to 84% of Facebook.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Facebook Face-off” episode of American Greed “Facebook fraud suspect on the lam; family, dog also missing,” Associated Press “Facebook friend or foe?” by Tim Graham for The Buffalo News “Fugitive Ceglia to be returned to U.S. to face charges of attempting to defraud Facebook,” by Phil Fairbanks for The Buffalo News “Ceglia has bad day in Facebook lawsuit,” by Dan Herbeck for The Buffalo News “Paul Ceglia: The man who owns 84% of Facebook?” by Van Voris for Bloomberg Businessweek “The buy who says he owns 50% of Facebook just filed a boatload of new evidence – and it’s breathtaking,” by Henry Blodget for Business Insider “Facebook’s suit against lawyers for Ceglia thrown out on appeal,” by Bob Van Voris for Bloomberg News  “Where in the world is Paul Ceglia? Possibly Ireland,” by Phil Fairbanks for The Buffalo News  YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
290: The Death of a Salesman

290: The Death of a Salesman

2024-03-2001:33:113

Bill Mowbray was *the* Cadillac dealer in Brownsville, Texas. His dealership spanned five acres. His financial success seemed undeniable. He had a massive home. He had two condos on the beach. He owned exotic birds. But beneath the surface, Bill struggled. He had a spending problem. He had multiple affairs. He struggled with suicidal ideation. So, when he died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot, investigators didn’t immediately question his wife, Freda Susie Mowbray. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Death of a Salesman” episode Accident Suicide or Murder “Where the Blood Drops” episode Forensic Files “Susie Mowbray: Stalled Heart” by Rebecca Reisner, forensicfilesnow.com “‘I Didn’t Do It!’ Texas Wife Yells In Court — Was Her Husband's Death Murder Or Suicide?” By Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com “Son’s Quest May Set His Mother Free 8 Years After Her Murder Conviction” by Pauline Arrillaga, Los Angeles Times “After 9 Years in Prison, Woman Is Acquitted in Husband's Death” by The Associated Press, The New York Times “Retrial Set for Woman Jailed in Mate’s Death” by Pauline Arrillaga, Los Angeles Times “After 9 years' in jail, woman cleared in death” Tampa Bay Times “Mowbray v. Cameron County Texas” findlaw.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
289: The My Lai Massacre

289: The My Lai Massacre

2024-03-1301:19:521

On March 16, 1968, members of the United States Army carried out a mass murder against unarmed Vietnamese civilians. They killed 504 people. Two hundred and ten of the murder victims were under the age of 13. Afterward, military leadership did their best to cover up the massacre. They didn’t anticipate that a few brave people would tell the truth. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “My Lai” episode of American Experience “My Lai Massacre” by Douglas O. Linder for famous trials.com “My Lai Massacre,” entry on Britannica.com “The truth behind My Lai,” by Christopher J. Levesque for The New York Times “The Ghosts of My Lai,” by Shaun Raviv for Smithsonian Magazine YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
Allen Roberts returned home, annoyed. A man named Sam Wagner had set up an appointment with him to talk about purchasing some land. Allen had gone out to meet Sam, but the man never showed. Now Allen found himself back home and, strangely, alone. His wife, Martha “Doe” Roberts was nowhere to be found. That was unlike her. She never left the house without at least writing a note.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Hold the Line” episode Hometown Homicide “A Tale of a Lethal Friendship and How It Led to A Cruel Murder” by The Mystique, Medium “Martha Doe Roberts” unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com “Husband vows to pay ransom for missing wife” Associate Press, The Tennessean “Neighborhood Watch: The Kidnapping of Doe Roberts” podcast episode, True Crime Campfire “State v. Lord” casetext.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
287: Food Fight!

287: Food Fight!

2024-02-2801:47:05

Well folks, there’s no easy way to say this, so we’ll get right to it. In this episode, we announce that the podcast is coming to an end. Thank you all for being part of this community. The past six years have been absolutely wild. We’ve laughed, we’ve cried, we’ve… talked about buttholes. (Too often, perhaps??) Many of you have been part of this community for years. We appreciate your warmth, your support, and your willingness to cackle along with two very goofy grown women.  We’re blown away by how big this little indie podcast has become. We started with one microphone on a TV tray, and we’re ending on March 29 & 30th with two sold out live shows. What a way to go. We couldn’t have done it without you. As you can probably imagine, this decision wasn’t an easy one. We talk about it quite a bit on this episode. Arriving at this decision has been tough, but we know that it will free us up to do what we’re meant to do. For Brandi, that’ll mean spending more time with her family, having *just one* full-time job, and getting out of content creation. For Kristin… well, first she has to get her butthole back from Brandi. After that? Who knows! Thank you all again for being part of this community. You’re the skeeziest scunches in all the land, the best listeners this side of the mighty Mississip’, and the meanest Bob Mosses this town has ever seen. We appreciate you. …. And now that you’re good and bummed, please hang in there for a truly disgusting story. This week, Kristin tells us about Dr. Harvey Wiley, whose relentless hard work led to the creation of America’s first consumer protection laws. We guarantee you’ll never look at milk the same way again. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The “Poison Squad” episode of American Experience The book “The Poison Squad: One Chemist's Single-Minded Crusade for Food Safety at the Turn of the Twentieth Century” by Deborah Blum YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 50+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!
Jason Young called his sister-in-law in a panic. He told her that he’d been looking on Ebay for a purse to buy for his wife Michelle. Like a dummy, he’d printed out a few of the purses he’d been eyeballing, and then he’d left the papers in the printer and gone out of town for a business trip. He worried that Michelle would spot the printouts and ruin the surprise. Jason’s sister-in-law, Meredith Fisher, agreed to help out. But when Meredith arrived at the home, she sensed that something was amiss. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Michelle Young” chillingcrimes.com “Silent Witness” episode Dateline “Michelle Young Murder: Husband Arrested Three Years After N.C. Mom's Death” ABC News “After Three Years Young Is Charged With Murder” by Lenora Carver, The Transylvania Times “Jason Young Gets Life in Prison for Wife's Murder” ABC News “Michelle Young murder case timeline of events” WRAL News “Jason Young's daughter spoke of him during 911 call” WRAL News “No third murder trial for Jason Young” by Travis Fain, WRAL News “State of North Carolina v. Jason Lynn Young” findlaw.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
285: Cyclists

285: Cyclists

2024-02-1401:27:523

Moriah “Mo” Wilson was a rising star in the world of professional cycling. One journalist said, “She had the potential to be one of the best racers, definitely in the country, and probably in the world.” Tragically, Mo’s life was cut short in a senseless murder. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: 48 Hours episode, “Capturing Moriah Wilson’s Killer” “A murder roils the cycling world,” by Ian Parker for The New Yorker “Kaitlin Armstrong’s former boyfriend testifies about their ‘tumultuous relationship during murder trial,” by Meghan Mariani, Olivia Osteen and Meredith Deliso for ABC News “Kaitlin Armstrong found guilty in murder of professional cyclist Anna Moriah Wilson,” by Meghan Mariani, Olivia Osteen and Meredith Deliso for ABC News “A comprehensive recap of Kaitlin Armstrong’s trial,” by Jessica Taylor for CBS Austin YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 55+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
IT’S HAPPENING!!! *THE* Ellyn Marsh and *THE* Joey Taranto from the fantastic podcast, I Think Not! joined us for a very special episode! Like any good host, Brandi served up what she does best… a kidnapping… AUSTRALIAN STYLE! Well, she doesn’t *do* the kidnappings, she just tells about the kidnappings. And this one is a doozy. The kidnapping of Carolynne Watson and Julian Buchwald involves roadkill, a hate group, and a very creepy, very predatory boyfriend. We suggest you buckle up. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Case 07: Julian Buchwald & Carolynne Watson” podcast episode, Casefile “KIDNAPPING: Carolynne Watson” by Natasha Leigh, Medium “Order of Nine Angles” wikipedia.org “Twisted Romeos Darren Saltmarsh and Julian Buchwald turned the search for love to pure terror” by Paul Anderson and True Crime editor, The Herald Sun “Kidnapper Julian Matthias Buchwald uses fake passport photo to flee justice” by Norrie Ross, The Herald Sun “Kidnap case: guilty verdict” by ABC News, abc.net.au “Kidnapper fled to India to avoid jail, court told” by Adrian Lowe, The Sydney Morning Herald “Gippsland man appeals kidnap sentence” by Peta Carlyon, abc.net.au “Fake Indian kidnapper loses appeal” by Andrea Petrie, The Age “Nailed, bailed, jailed then derailed. The bush plot that cost a man his country” by John Silvester, The Age YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 50+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
Buckle up, people! Ellyn Marsh and Joey Taranto from the podcast I Think Not! invited us on their show and it was a hoot! Btw, we recommend you listen to this episode while eating a bowl of guacamole.  *** YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
HOLY CRAPOLA! Tickets to our March 29th show are already SOLD OUT, so we’ve added another live show for the following night! Come see us at 7 p.m., March 30, at the Madrid Theater in KANSAS CITY! The Patreon presale is live now, but the general public sale begins at noon CST today. Get your tickets here: https://bit.ly/4aUmGu8 In the meantime, please enjoy this Patreon bonus episode. If you want to hear more bonus episodes, or want early access to future live shows, please consider joining our Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/lgtcpodcast Btw, we miss you! See ya in February! 
In the dead of winter, 1979, a man called his local police station with concerns. He’d been staying at the Blue Mill Inn and had just been on the phone with the motel’s desk clerk when he’d heard something unusual. It sounded as if someone had gotten into the office. Perhaps the person had been intent on robbing the motel? The caller heard the desk clerk, Janet Chandler, say “don’t take it all, sir.” When police arrived at the motel, they discovered money missing from the register. Janet Chandler was nowhere to be found. A day later, a snowplow driver discovered Janet’s body by the side of the road. The murder of  22-year-old Janet Chandler shocked the small community of Holland, Michigan. Who had murdered Janet? And why? For decades, those questions went unanswered. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Gang rape, murder and justice in a small town,” by Shaun Assael for Glamour “Conspiracy of silence,” by Victoria Corderi for NBC News “Second man convicted in Janet Chandler murder case dies in prison,” by Peg McNichol for WHTC “Witness provides graphic details of final hours,” by John Tunison for Michigan Live “State court rejects appeals of Chandler killers,” by Megan Schmidt for the Holland Sentinel “Chandlers can’t forgive killers showing no remorse,” by Lee Lup for The Muskegon Chronicle “Witness: Guards plotted to ‘teach’ victim a lesson,” by John Tunison for Michigan Live “Swank: ‘No excuse’ for role in Chandler death,” by John Tunison for Michigan Live “Witness: I did not plan rival’s death,” the Press Enterprise “Where are Jim and Glenna Chandler now?” by Sounak Sengupta for The Cinemaholic YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 53+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
280: The Pandemic Defense

280: The Pandemic Defense

2023-12-1301:30:19

Michelle Boat was livid. Her husband of more than 20 years, Nicholas Boat, wanted a divorce. Nicholas told Michelle that he’d found someone new – a woman named Tracy Mondabough. Michelle began stalking Tracy. She stalked Nicholas, too. She left Nicholas terrifying voicemails in which she threatened to kill Tracy. So, when Tracy was brutally murdered, investigators immediately had a top suspect. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Michelle Boat” episode Sleeping With A Killer “Tracy Mondabough” chillingcrimes.com “IA v. Boat (2021)” courttv.com “Trial to begin for murder of Ottumwa woman” by Kyle Ocker, Ottumwa Courier “Woman charged in Pella homicide the estranged wife of victim's boyfriend” by KCCI 8 News, kcci.com “Defense attorney says Boat guilty of manslaughter, not murder” by Kyle Ocker, The Oskaloosa Herald “Jury convicts Michelle Boat of first-degree murder after 45-minute deliberation” by Laura Terrell, KCCI 8 News YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 53+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
279: The Mini Madoff

279: The Mini Madoff

2023-12-0601:32:54

Darren Berg was a bit of a scammer. He scammed his fraternity brothers at the University of Oregon. He scammed a Portland bank. Following each scam, Darren received a slap on the wrist. So was it any surprise that Darren moved onto bigger scams? (No. The answer is no.) By the mid-2000s, Darren was running a $150 million dollar Ponzi scheme. He had two yachts, two private jets, and a sweet hot tub to show for it. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Seattle Roasted,” episode of American Greed “Financial empire, luxurious lifestyle were built on a a mirage,” by Rami Grunbaum for Seattle Times “Prison escape of Darren Berg, Washington’s ‘Mini Madoff,’ is like ‘Shawshank Redemption,’ official says,” by Mike Carter for the Seattle Times “Darren Berg on the Run: Inside the biggest ponzi scheme in Washington State history,” by Clara O’Rourke for Seattle Met “Escaped Ponzi scammer possibly went to Brazil,” by Michael Balsamo and Chad Day for the Associated Press YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 53+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
278: Insurance Fraud

278: Insurance Fraud

2023-11-2201:58:352

Melvin Eugene Hanson was dead. The 46-year-old had apparently passed away in his doctor’s office after he’d called to complain about chest pain. Right away, investigators were suspicious. Why had Melvin’s doctor encouraged him to come into the office? Why not tell him to go to the emergency room? Dr. Richard Boggs was quick to provide an answer. He said that Melvin didn’t trust other doctors. But investigators couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Blood, Sweats, and Tears” episode The Real Murders of Los Angeles “Mistaken for Dead” episode Forensic Files “After Doctor Claims a Man Died in His Office, Cops Uncover a Murder and $1 Million Insurance Scam” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com “Murder-for-insurance scam nearly eluded authorities” by The Associated Press, Lancaster Eagle Gazette “Prosecutors Again Seek Death Sentence for Doctor” by James Quinn, The Los Angeles Times “Doctor gets life for murder scheme” by The Associated Press, North County Times “Killer in Fraud Case Draws Life Sentence : Courts: No chance of parole for businessman Melvin Hanson, who murdered bookkeeper in plan to fake his own death.” By Nancy Hill-Holtzman, The Los Angeles Times “Jurors Split Verdict in Insurance Murder Case” by Nicholas Riccardi and Ann W. O’Neill, The Los Angeles Times “Notorious Swindler Recounts Notorious ‘Just Sweats’ Case, Including His Mysterious Vanishing Act” by 10tv.com, WBNS 10 News “Neurosurgeon Turns Into a Killer to Finance His Life” by Sabana Grande, medium.com “Fraud, Murder, Bike Shorts: A Just Sweats Timeline” by Rebecca Reisner, forensicfilesnow.com “’Just Sweats' fraudster seeks second chance after 2 decades in prison” by Staff Writer, The Columbus Dispatch “People v. Hanson” casemine.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
277: Buried Treasure??

277: Buried Treasure??

2023-11-1502:11:183

Michael was terrified… and frankly, confused. Two masked men had just broken into his Newport Beach home. They’d beaten him mercilessly. They’d threatened him with a gun. They’d zip tied his wrists and ankles. And then, they demanded money. Michael offered them everything he had, but it wasn’t good enough. They wanted a million dollars, cash. Michael told them the truth – he didn’t have that kind of money. But they didn’t believe him. Soon, a third intruder joined in. The captors took Michael and his roommate, Mary Barnes, out to the Mojave Desert, where they demanded that he dig up the million dollars. But Michael couldn’t appease them.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “A Gruesome Mutilation. A Global Manhunt. Inside One of the Most Twisted Crimes Ever,” by Tim Dickinson for Rolling Stone “Catch me if you can?” episode of 20/20 “O.C. pot dealer guilty in kidnap, torture plot,” by Christopher Goffard for the LA Times YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
276: A Hunting Accident

276: A Hunting Accident

2023-11-0801:35:504

When Leonila Stickney died from a gunshot wound, her fiance Russell Bertram was quick to provide an explanation. The former police chief told investigators that she’d died in a hunting accident. He explained that she’d been in the passenger’s seat of his truck when he climbed into the driver’s seat. As he climbed in, he’d pointed the gun in her direction. He claimed she’d grabbed the barrel of the gun, keeping it pointed at herself, and leaned in for a kiss. Then the gun went off. He was totally innocent! Nothing to see here! Infuriatingly, investigators bought his story. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Hunter and the Hunted” episode Accident, Suicide or Murder “Jealousy, greed marked 2016 murder trial of former South Dakota police chief Russell Bertram” by Erik Kaufman, Mitchell Republic “Former South Dakota Police Chief Murdered Pregnant Fiancée And Blamed It On An Accident” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com “Leonila Stickney” podcast episode, Forensic Tales “Ex-Police Chief Convicted of Murdering Pregnant Fiancée Years After Claiming Her 2009 Death Was an Accident” by KC Baker, people.com “Why would a former police chief kill his young fiancee? Jealousy and greed, prosecutors allege.” By Sarah Larimer, The Washington Post “State v. Bertram” findlaw.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
Well hello, everyone! We recorded this episode a few days after we returned from Obsessed Fest ‘23. … Though it’s probably more accurate to say that we recorded this episode a few days after we *fled* Obsessed Fest ‘23. Eh, tomayto, tomahto.  We talk about Obsessed Fest quite a bit in this episode, but if you’d like more information about what happened, we have two recommendations:  First, we recommend listening to the latest episode of the podcast One Dry Kiss. Their episode, “Obsessed Mess, Mischief MisManagement and Amazing People and Podcasters,” is a firsthand account of what the weekend was like for attendees.  Second, we recommend listening to the latest episode of Rabia and Ellyn Solve the Case, titled, “About Damn Crime: Obsessed Fest.” In that episode, Ellyn Marsh, Rabia Chaudry, Joey Taranto, Maggie Freleng, Daisy Eagan, Amber Hunt, Harris Lane and Ashleigh Gibson share their experiences from the weekend. If you like receipts, this is the podcast for you. By the way, if you listen closely to this episode, you might hear Kristin cover a timber swindler. It’s a troubling story about a man named Ralph Raines, who was exploited by a “psychic” named Rachel Lee. Over the course of ten years, Rachel took nearly everything Ralph had. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Psychic Fiend’s Network” episode of American Greed “Sweetheart Swindle” episode of 20/20 “How a psychic stole millions of dollars from an Oregon timber heir,” by ABC News “Phony wife in sweetheart swindle, who bilked millions from Gaston tree farm heir, gets prison,” by Bryan Denson for The Oregonian “Daughter of Oregon psychic pleads guilty to helping bilk millions from Gaston tree farm heir,” by Everton Bailey Jr. for The Oregonian “‘The Sweetheart Swindle’: Rich older bachelor targeted by family,” True Crime Daily  YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 53+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
274: A Big Bad Wolf

274: A Big Bad Wolf

2023-10-2501:54:52

It was Halloween night. Doreen Erbert and her four-year-old daughter were cuddled up on the couch, watching a movie, when they heard a knock at the door. The knock sounded aggressive, but Doreen got up to answer it. She figured that she was about to encounter an eager trick-or-treater. Instead, she encountered a man in a wolf costume. Just before he attacked her, Doreen yelled to her daughter to hide.  And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “William Dennis” episode Snapped “JUSTICE STORY: Halloween horror as a masked man murders woman and baby” by Mara Bovsun, New York Daily News “Man In Wolf Mask Hacks Pregnant Ex-Wife To Death With Machete On Halloween Night” by Benjamin H. Smith, oxygen.com “Girl recounts grisly Halloween murders” by Michael Molinski, UPI “Halloween killer found guilty in slaying of wife, unborn child” UPI “Man guilty in murder of ex-wife, unborn child” by Tracie Thompson, The Peninsula Times Tribune “Condemned inmates, victims’ families speak out” by Bay Area News Group and Jessica Calefati, Lake County Record-Bee “People v. Dennis” findlaw.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
273: A Foreclosure

273: A Foreclosure

2023-10-1802:07:002

Nicholas Firkus couldn’t believe what he was hearing. It sounded like someone was downstairs, trying to break into his home. So he woke his wife, Heidi, asked her to call 911, and grabbed his shotgun. The couple moved quickly, hoping to get downstairs and out the back door before the person broke in. But they didn’t make it. To hear Nick tell it, the intruder broke in and wrestled him for control of the gun. The gun went off twice — hitting Nick and Heidi in the process. Heidi didn’t survive the shooting, so that left Nick to tell police what happened that morning. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Kristin read a bunch of articles, then spat them back out in her very limited vocabulary. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “A Stranger in the house” episode of 20/20 “Second wife’s suspicions confirmed with ex-husband’s arrest for murder,” by Blue Browning, Brooke Strangeland, Meghan Mariani, Lexi Leib, Greta Morris, Ivan Pereira for ABC News “Nicholas Firkus gets life sentence for wife Heidi’s murder he blamed on intruder,” by Mara H. Gottfried for the Pioneer Press “Husband locked up for life after blowing away first wife with shotgun, blaming murder on nonexistent Black man, remarrying,” by Matt Naham for Law and Crime “State of Minnesota vs. Nicholas James Firkus” court document “Husband sentenced to life in prison in wife’s 13-year cold case murder,” by Brooke Strangeland for ABC7NY “How was the Heidi Firkus case closed after so long? Meet the trio who did it.” by Mara H. Gottfried for the Pioneer Press “Nicholas Firkus found guilty of murdering wife Heidi Firkus,” by Nick Ferraro for the Pioneer Press YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 52+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
Imette St. Guillen wanted to have a good time. Her birthday was just a few days away, so she and a friend went out to celebrate. But when the bar closed and her friend wanted to go home, Imette insisted on staying out. The hard-working graduate student went to the next bar alone. She had no idea she was being watched by a predator. And now for a note about our process. For this episode, Brandi copy and pasted from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Downtown Disappearance” episode New York Homicide “Imette St. Guillen” chillingcrimes.com “‘The Body Was Ice Cold’: NYC Bar Bouncer Raped, Strangled Grad Student” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com “Imette St. Guillen” podcast episode, Women & Crime “The gruesome murder of Imette St. Guillen” by Clint Van Zandt, NBC News “In Bouncer’s Murder Trial, Victim’s Friend Recalls Their Last Night” by Kareem Fahim, The New York Times “People v. Darryl Littlejohn” casetext.com “Murder of Imette St. Guillen” wikipedia.org YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 51+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!  
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Comments (91)

truth seeker

hasn't Brandy already done this case?

Jan 17th
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Shauna Blackwood

my father's name on his birth certificate is Tommy.

Dec 26th
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Aakash Amanat

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Oct 25th
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Haley B

I don't understand the car situation in this case. The van was found 7 blocks away, but Bill says he jumped into his van before getting into the family's Volkswagen. Did he run 7 blocks and then run back or was the van at the Fager home? Just confused and looking for clarity.

Aug 17th
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Haley B

That sucks.

Jul 12th
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Chris W

Congratulations on your upgrade 👏

Jul 5th
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Chris W

This is beyond horrible 💔 A 10 year old could see the man is innocent! Gee, how nice they took him off of death row 😒

May 10th
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Courtney Bryans

I feel so bad for the child who was murdered and I have no doubt that he did it but American decided to have a juvenile court and an adult court and they have done nothing but abuse that since they put it in place. Why even have a juvenile court if you are just going to try children as adults? The entire point is that children are not mentally as developed as adults. Our justice system is so screwed up.

Mar 23rd
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Chris W

It is called "Getaway". I went last year and I am going this year.

Mar 2nd
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Shauna Blackwood

jungle law is in st. Louis too.

Feb 10th
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Rebecca Ann Zimmerman

OMG! Love Match Game, too!

Nov 20th
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Chris W

LOL right off the bat....I too have boob hairs.

Nov 19th
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Ellie May

❤️❤️

Nov 9th
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Kristin R

This has become my favorite podcast this year. I will admit I wasn't sure if I would enjoy it one episode in but I kept going and now I can't stop laughing along. You rock ladies!

Oct 29th
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truth seeker

Brandy I believe he's already told this story. and the first 5 minutes I was like this sounds exactly like the one with the guy who pretends to send himself messages

Aug 17th
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Brandy E

13:00 minutes if you want to skip the majority of the butthole conversations.

Aug 1st
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truth seeker

this girl does not pull off this hairstyle, she looks like she may be mentally challenged and living in the wilderness

Jul 15th
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truth seeker

another kristin Case skipped

Jul 8th
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truth seeker

another skipped kristen episode, get off the gas with the racist stuff. we want to hear about actual court cases that nobody knows about too

Jun 21st
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Brandy E

Good stories but the minutes of obnoxious laughing gets old. When going off on a tangent I forward to the next part of the story.

Jun 6th
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