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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back
A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back
Author: Charlie Swenson, MD
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This podcast series, “To Hell and Back,” is focused on the nature of hellish experiences in life, how people get into them, and to present and discuss tools for coping with hell and getting out. The various podcasts will move back and forth between different varieties of hell in life, and different tools for coping. The tools will be drawn from dialectical behavior therapy (DBT), from other treatments, and from other life experiences.
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After discussing the reasons for bad feelings during the holidays, and the nature of those feelings, Charlie talks with John Mader, DBT therapist from North Carolina, about ten antidotes to those feelings.
On this Thursday, March 11, at 6:00 pm, I will be joined on the podcast by three DBT therapists from Clearview Treatment Center Women’s Program: Nicole Riddle, Kate Roahrig, and Ruth Avalos. They all do individual DBT therapy and lots of skills training. They will bring practical examples of how you can apply DBT’s Model of Emotions to your life. You may benefit from listening to the last podcast, when I went over the ingredients of the model, but if you don’t, I think you can still benefit from this one.
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Even with all the techniques for regulating emotions, it’s really hard to deal with the intense, repetitive, stubborn ones. In this podcast I will go over ten reasons it’s so difficult. I do this for two reasons: first, maybe this will help someone who is listening to get a better understanding of what is making it so impossible to regulate certain emotions; second, this podcast will set the stage for a podcast next week on how to use DBT’s model of emotions to deal with stubborn negative emotions.
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We are all living through a socio-cultural-political environment that is multi-layered, complex, intense, and can be dysregulating. In this podcast I will focus on three sets of principles/strategies/skills that can help us to be regulated and effective: mindfulness, radical acceptance, and validation.
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An upside down world eventually casts new and different light on fundamental principles and values, including those that interweave with the deep roots of DBT. Who knows in what ways we will emerge from this era different than when we went in. On this Thursday, May 21, at 6:00 pm eastern time, Kathryn Patrick and I will have a conversation about the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on our own perspectives as we go through it. We invite you to listen in. Kathryn is a DBT therapist leading a DBT team in Denver, has worked for years with Kelly Koerner in developing the Practice Ground learning community, has trained and supervised others in DBT including at the intensive level, and will teach a ten day DBT intensive with me beginning in July.
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I will be joined by Maria Elena Ridolfi, a friend, colleague, DBT expert, and a leading public sector psychiatrist in Northern Italy. Maria and I will compare notes about personal and professional experiences and DBT perspectives on the crisis. Maria has lived and worked through some shockingly troubling times in Northern Italy in recent weeks, and has been helpful to me in understanding things that are “arriving” in the U.S. and other parts of Europe. I have no doubt that a dialogue about Italy, America, DBT, and the pandemic will be helpful to all of us. Maria and I will be joined by Laura Coverlizza, who lives with her husband and children near Milan, who is the interpreter for all of my DBT workshops in Italy, and who will provide consecutive interpretation into Italian throughout the Zoomcast/podcast so that it will also be accessible to the large Italian DBT and CBT community.
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I will be joined by Maria Elena Ridolfi, a friend, colleague, DBT expert, and a leading public sector psychiatrist in Northern Italy. Maria and I will compare notes about personal and professional experiences and DBT perspectives on the crisis. Maria has lived and worked through some shockingly troubling times in Northern Italy in recent weeks, and has been helpful to me in understanding things that are “arriving” in the U.S. and other parts of Europe. I have no doubt that a dialogue about Italy, America, DBT, and the pandemic will be helpful to all of us. Maria and I will be joined by Laura Coverlizza, who lives with her husband and children near Milan, who is the interpreter for all of my DBT workshops in Italy, and who will provide consecutive interpretation into Italian throughout the Zoomcast/podcast so that it will also be accessible to the large Italian DBT and CBT community.
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Donald Trump’s presidency has been challenging in so many ways for so many individuals and families. In the next 4 podcasts I will draw from DBT for perspective on the situation and to spell out strategies to cope with Trump-associated adversity.
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Donald Trump’s presidency has been challenging in so many ways for so many individuals and families. In the next two podcasts I will draw from DBT for perspective on the situation and to spell out strategies to cope with Trump-associated adversity.
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Donald Trump’s presidency has been challenging in so many ways for so many individuals and families. In the next two podcasts I will draw from DBT for perspective on the situation and to spell out strategies to cope with Trump-associated adversity.
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Seth Axelrod, PhD., is a Professor of Psychology at Yale University and Director of DBT services there. He is a trainer and consultant in DBT for Behavioral Tech. He was the recipient of the Cindy Sanderson Outstanding Educator Award in November, 2019, given by the International Society for the Improvement and Teaching of DBT (ISITDBT).
AND he has lived with and battled with a “bad” kind of Cancer for the past six years, continuing into the present. He will join me for the next three podcasts to talk with me (and all of us) about his experiences of Cancer and how he has used DBT, among other things, to cope.
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This week I talk about various approaches to pointlessness in DBT.
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The holiday season can be loaded with emotional stress. I am joined in this week’s podcast by John Mader of North Carolina, as I was last year during the holiday season. He has put together his top ten DBT skills-based antidotes for the holiday season. You can find them and download them from his team’s website, www.dbtfamilyskills.com. Check it out; there is other great stuff there.After sharing our own experiences and observations about stress during the holidays, we will share our own favorite antidotes.
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In the wake of the recent killing by federal agents of two adults in Minneapolis, this podcast represents an attempt to deepen my perspective on these events, on Donald Trump, and on the forces in our country that have supported him. I close with some thoughts about how to counter him in the coming days.
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DBT’s emphasis on behavioral specificity, validation, and dialectical thinking, while effective for therapy, must be sufficiently grounded in deep moral convictions and motivational forces if it is to be used to address a fascist takeover of our society.
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In this podcast Charlie reviews the six categories of people in the United States insofar as they are actors in the drama between democracy and authoritarianism, highlighting where it might be possible to change the momentum. He then discusses the role of “bystanders” and the psychology of bystanders, with a plea to convert bystanders to more active participants
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