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Author: Kirk Dewindt & Brakken Kraker

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Two endurance athletes and coaches sit down to talk all things running! We bring you high level running knowledge and present it at a practical level.
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Today is a good ole fashioned training chat! We cover what we’re doing in our own training, some trends with the athletes we work with, some race updates, and plenty of miscellaneous rabbit holes.
Episode 596: Aaron Telitz

Episode 596: Aaron Telitz

2026-03-0701:13:18

A professional driver for Lexus, Aaron joins us to talk fitness, training, mental toughness, and doing whatever it takes to pursue your goal.
Zach recently won the Phoenix Hyrox Open division, running an impressive 56:39. And he did it weighing in at 110 lbs. In a sport where frame, mass, and long levers truly matter, how has he been able to achieve this level of success?
Take2Trail is built by and for runners who believe gear should keep moving long after we’re done with it. They give your like-new and gently used trail running gear a chance to see another mile. No flaky buyers. No sketchy meetups. Just a smarter, smoother way to keep quality gear in circulation — and out of the landfill. Used doesn't mean useless.
We are joined by Sam Konowitch, a software engineer contracting for Space Force, to learn every single detail we could ever need to know about fully utilizing the capabilities of our GPS watches. From extending battery life to maximizing route accuracy in every location imaginable, this is the episode to nerd out on all things run tracking!
We fully intended to just rapid fire the remaining questions and then hit our real topic. An hour later we were still deep diving into the Q&A topics!
We pick up with your remaining questions from last week! Highlights include Heat Training, Hamstring Strengthening, Super Shoes for “Slow” Runners, and Compromised Running.
Episode 590: Cody Taylor

Episode 590: Cody Taylor

2026-02-1401:14:55

When COVID effectively ended his music career, Cody reinvented himself as a an endurance athlete. From running across the Atacama Desert to setting an FKT on the Bruce Trail in the wilderness of Canada, he’s been searching for his limit and hasn’t found it yet.
Training Tuesday: Q&A!

Training Tuesday: Q&A!

2026-02-1201:02:49

You’ve sent some great questions this month! Highlights include: What’s holding you back, efficiency or engine?  What supplements should you be trying? Uphill efficiency vs flat speed efficiency. What should you do if your HR is too high even when jogging slow?
Jared Francisca PT, DPT, joins us to talk specific processes for rehabbing common running related soft tissue injuries (tendinitis, tendinopathy, strains, tears). 
Kirk takes one side and Brakken takes the other while they debate the overall importance of Strength Training for a distance runner.
With both boys scheduled to toe the same start line in May, this marks their first time racing each other since 2021! Today they break down their lifetime head to head match ups and predict how this one will go.
Kirk takes one side and Brakken takes the other while they debate the overall importance of Long Runs in a training plan.
Exactly one hundred episodes ago, we spoke with Betsy about her plan to ran across the US despite living with MS. Here we are, one year later, to discuss her experience!
Both Brakken and Kirk entered the lottery and this week they both found out they got in! With sixteen weeks until race day, what is their plan for being ready to attack 31 miles of technical, hilly terrain??
Episode 582: Q&A!

Episode 582: Q&A!

2026-01-1601:10:38

Our take on orthotics. One shoe to “do it all”. Should we worry about kids’ running form? If we had to add in one extra hour of non-aerobic training per day, what would it be? How long to adjust to carbon plated shoes. How cold is too cold to run? And more!
Training for the Olympic Marathon Trials on top of full time med school means that Felicia has to be hyper efficient with her training and her daily schedule. We discuss her daily practices, tips, and recommendations for living a more efficient life.
Episode 580: Ryan Kules

Episode 580: Ryan Kules

2026-01-1201:16:35

Last month, double amputee Ryan Kules set three Guinness World Records for adaptive rowing: fastest marathon, fastest ultramarathon, and longest distance in one hour. 
With both of us having an “Ultra Focus” this off season, but starting with totally different fitness levels, this is what it will look like from a training perspective.
We close out our podcast year the best way we know how: Q&A sesh!
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Comments (7)

Matt Beckham

hands down my favorite podcast. education and entertainment galore

Dec 20th
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Nathan Phua

This is the best running podcast for OCR. Kirk and Brakken give you all the fundamentals and advanced concepts to understand, construct, and refine your own training.

Sep 14th
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Dean Constable

I listened to my first ever full podcast when my team mate Chris Shipley was interviewed by Kirk & Bracken earlier this year, I have listened to every one since & caught up on some of the earlier episodes, I am an OCR racer so maybe a little bias but these guys know there stuff & have got so many tips in this time. Keep up the good work lads 👌🏻

Mar 1st
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Alfred Yung

Fantastic podcast! Found this a little later but made to sure to catch up on all the previous episodes. Great insights from two elite obstacle course racers and stellar runners! Have applied many of the principles into my own training already!

Jun 3rd
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Joseph Gaetz

another great episode! thanks for all the help tips!

May 27th
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Dave Kennedy

The best podcast for running out there. They do focus on OCR, but I pull a ton of useful info on regular running from Kirk and Brakken. Plus, you get 2 episodes a week and their interview episodes are awesome. These guys know the questions to ask.

May 22nd
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Joseph Gaetz

Great episode!!! fantastic information that I'm going to use Immediately! love listening guys!

May 17th
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