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Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots
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A podcast about the design, development, and business of great software. Each week thoughtbot is joined by the people who build and nurture the products we love.
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Sami talks with Lord Chris Holmes, Peer of the UK House of Lords, about the increasing need for AI legislation in the UK.
Lord Holmes discusses his efforts to pass his AI Regulation Bill, why it’s taking longer than expected, what we could expect to see happen if we continue to leave AI unchecked, and what differences we can expect to see in AI moving forward.
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If you live in the UK and would like to discuss the regulation of AI with Lord Holmes, you can connect with him via LinkedIn.
If you’d like to dive deeper into today’s episode why not read through Lord Holmes’ proposed plans for AI legislation - AI Regulation Bill - The need for AI Legislation - [AI Regulation Report](lordchrisholmes.com/ai-regulation-report/)
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Sami talks with Taylor Spencer, Investment Delivery Director, Change & Innovation for British Business Bank, about driving change within a business.
Taylor breaks down the best ways of handling change fatigue and resistance within a business, how and why it impacts his work with British Business Bank, the unique challenges of growth and development they face as a result and the solutions in place to overcome them.
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You can connect with Taylor on LinkedIn, or you can reach out through Better Business Bank’s website if you own a small business that could benefit from financial assistance.
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Sami makes his triumphant return to the Giant Robots Smashing into other Giant Robots Podcast as he and his fellow hosts discuss a brand new tool currently in pre-production at thoughtbot.
Chad lays out his idea for the tool, how he thinks it will differ from other similar products currently available, who it’s for and the considerations needed going in to make it as accessible as possible, and Sami plays devil’s advocate as he asks Chad the hard questions about his new project.
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Follow the development of thoughtbot’s latest product through Chad’s live streams, AI in Focus over on our YouTube channel.
And if you want to look as cool as our hosts do you can check out the thoughtbot merch store!
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will - Sami.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Chad talks with Jason Stadther, director of engineering at TrueCar, about striking the right balance with AI in programming and its overall impact on the industry now and in the future.
Together they discuss the impact AI is currently having on junior developers and the potential impact it’s having on their career prospects, what happens to AI when it doesn’t have a reference for newly developed tools, how the internet is likely to change over the next decade, and Jason covers some key differences between AI and machine learning.
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Your guest for this episode has been Jason Stadther, you can connect with him over on LinkedIn, or check out his blog for more insights on his work.
Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Chad and Will examine the ever expanding AI bubble and ponder on what we can expect it to see evolve in the coming years.
Our hosts discuss how they strike a balance with AI as they break down their current stacks and workflows, what will be left in the wake of the bubble’s collapse, and just where do Chad and Will draw the line with AI as they debate the ethics around it’s use.
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You can find Chad regularly problem solving with AI on thoughtbot’s weekly stream over on our YouTube channel.
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel. You can also connect with the duo via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Celebrate Giant Robots’ 600th episode in style as Sami pulls together thoughtbot staff old and new to celebrate this monumental milestone.
Sami shines a light on his colleagues at thoughtbot and the history of the show, reflecting on how far they’ve all come and what makes thoughtbot feel so special, before putting his guests in the hot seat with some hard hitting trivia that only another thoughtbotter could know.
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Your guests for the 600th episode of Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots have been:
Bethan Ashley - Svenja Schäfer - Ferdia Kenny - Moses Amama - Rémy Hannequin - Sarah Lima - Trésor Bireke - Dawn Delatte - Aji Slater - Neil Carvalho - Louis Antonopoulos
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will - Sami.
Got room for more? Dive into the archive of Giant Robots and check out some of the key episodes mentioned on today’s show.
Episode 1: Polymorphism vs. Conditionals
Episode 244: A Fork in the Road with Seth Godin
Episode 562: The Evolution of Design Sprints with Dawn Delatte and Elaina Natario
Episode 571: Space, Software and Surprises with Rémy Hannequin
If you would like to support the show over the next 100 episodes why not head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Chad and Will start the new year off right by discussing their aspirations for 2026.
Chad discusses this year’s theme for the company of being bold and how having a clear vision keeps thoughtbot on track, the pair discuss how they plan to rise up to the challenge of being bold in their work, and Will seeks some advice on a project he’s been looking to pursue.
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Once you’re done with this week’s episode why not check out Chad’s podcast recommendation of Cortex, a show that explores how creative people think about their work.
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel. You can also connect with the duo via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Sami talks with Sam Landsberg, head of sales at Light, about the wide world of fintech and how they’re working to simplify accounting software for businesses big and small.
Sam lays out his journey into the world of fintech and how he came to work with Light, the way they utilise AI with clients to condense the human element of accounting, and Sami challenges Sam’s knowledge of animals with a surprise pop quiz.
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You can connect with Sam on LinkedIn or contact his company Light if you’re looking to refresh your accountancy software.
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Chad talks with developer and guitarist Nick Merwin about the challenges of balancing his career in development with his life as a musician.
Nick tells of his time delivering code on the road as a guitarist with the band Capital Cities, the pros and cons of working as a solo programmer, what he’s learnt from saying yes for so many years, and Chad asks whether AI is diluting the art of coding.
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Nick can be heard playing with his band Capital Cities, alternatively you can follow him on X or connect with him on LinkedIn.
Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Sami revisits his time on a recent project for Sheer as he talks with it’s CTO and founder Mads Ulrik Svendsen about the ever evolving and creative world of influencers.
Mads talks about the story of Sheer, how they’re helping influencers maximise their potential and creativity, where they expect to see change in the industry over the coming years, the desire for authenticity in a world of AI content, and Sami is determined to discover just what it would take to become an influencer in 2025.
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If you want to get in touch with Mads about anything you’ve heard on todays show you can connect with him through LinkedIn or directly via email - mads@sheer.dk
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Sami, Chad and Will share the projects they’ve been working on at thoughtbot recently and how they adapt to new systems they’re unfamiliar with.
Sami shares his recent horror at the animal kingdom and how he might be getting into crypto, Chad reveals how he invests his time into thoughtbot whilst also managing to stay on top trending tech, and the group discuss best practices for dealing with clients.
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Against Chad’s wishes you can watch Sami’s spider video here, but we don’t recommend it!
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will - Sami.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Sami assesses the long term viability of AI with Pablo Curell, software developer at Recovr, as they break down the hype and logistics that surround the popular tool.
The pair examine why it’s still important you learn to code, what AI’s best use cases are now and what they could be in the future, what a successful AI product actually looks like on the back end, as well as the ever growing and unsustainable economics behind AI tokens.
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Read the article mentioned in this week’s episode - The Case Against Generative AI
Check out Pablo’s podcast A Junior, A Senior and I for similar discussions and perspectives on the world of tech, or follow him on social media - LinkedIn - Mastodon - Website
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Chad and Sami share some learning moments with one another as they discuss the recent projects they’ve been working on at thoughtbot.
The pair question how much time and effort we should be investing into a problem with AI vs the outcome we receive, their work and experimentation with MCP servers, Sami shares his big bid on AI to save some time, while Chad tells the tragic tale of why he stopped playing Diablo IV.
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Don’t forget we have a YouTube channel where you can watch all the streams mentioned in this episode along with video versions of the show.
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the duo via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Sami.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Sami talks with Don Shin, CEO of CrossComm, about which direction humanity is heading as the landscape of AI technology continues to shift and evolve.
Together they assess the correlation between language and intelligence, the importance of human connection, as well as the growing responsibility we have in managing AI to prevent a potential dystopia.
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You can connect with Don on LinkedIn or stay up to date with the work his does with CrossComm over on his website.
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Will talks with Amani Bright, senior program manager at Springboard, and Julia Lasater, consulting senior at Accenture, about the state of women’s health and their efforts to increase visibility for all women who enter the health care system.
They cover their recent work on the state of women’s health report, shining a light on the neglected areas within women’s health, the barriers women face when seeking basic medical advice, and the gender bias that persists within medical studies and general healthcare.
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Your guests for this episode have been Amani Bright (amani.bright@springboardenterprises.org) and Julia Lasater (julia.lasater@accenture.com). Be sure to check out the other work they do for women across the nation through Springboard, or read some of the other reports they mentioned in this episode - Innovation in Women's Health - Women's Health Gap - WHAM Report
Your host for this episode has been Will Larry, you can find and connect with Will over on LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
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Chad talks with Louis Gutierrez, Director of AI at Constant Contact, about the various challenges of implementing AI into a product or business.
Louis discusses his strategy to improve AI integration upon joining Constant Contact, how they address the issue of ethics and AI, as well as providing a technical look at how they evaluate the quality of their products without violating user privacy.
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You can connect with Louis over on LinkedIn, or try out Constant Contact’s AI marketing tools for yourself to see how they could help you and your business.
Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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The Giant Robots trio are back as they sit down at their desks to discuss their home setups for thoughtbot.
Together they break down each core aspect of their office environment and why they chose the things they did, why future proofing and getting your setup just right is important, Sami learns all about teleprompters, while Chad spills the beans on a guilty secret he’s kept for far too long.
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You can see pictures of each host’s setup here - Chad - Chad’s Teleprompter - Sami - Will - and be sure to check out the YouTube version of this episode to get the full visual experience from today’s episode.
You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel and Sami through his website. You can also connect with the trio via their LinkedIn pages - Chad - Will - Sami.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Sami faces his fear of program designers by talking with Jeremy Blaze, Founder & Design Lead at Never Before Seen.
Together they ask the question of whether their roles as developer and designer are slowly become one, how to rediscover the challenge of working on code when AI can do so much heavy lifting, as well as grappling with the idea of a therapeutic AI.
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Connect with Jeremy over on LinkedIn or through his website to stay up to date with the projects he’s working on. If you’re interested in trying out his new app you can sign up to the early access program here.
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Sami looks to go viral as he discusses digital marketing with Michael Praetorius, Founder of Praetorius.
Together they examine the roots of marketing and how it’s focus and tactics have shifted over time, the secrets social media analytics hold and how the information is used, and Sami takes notes as Michael relives his personal experience of creating a viral video.
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Connect with Michael over on LinkedIn or through his website. You can also check out his YouTube channel for more insights into marketing and AI, as well as the viral ticket burning video mentioned in this episode.
Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website or via LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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Chad discusses the changing world of AgeTech with Leanne Clark-Shirley, President and CEO of the American Society on Aging, as they break down how age really has just become a number.
They discuss the growing irrelevancy of the “AgeTech” label and how it’s use case is shifting to benefit everyone, how generational boundaries mean less when it comes to tech knowledge, and the unrealised opportunities aging can offer to us all.
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You can connect with Leanne to stay up to date with her work or check out the various resources the ASA has to offer.
Your host for this episode has been Chad Pytel. You can find Chad all over social media as @cpytel, or over on LinkedIn.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@giantrobots.fm
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I love this so much! I've almost read the whole book.