The OCD Whisperer Podcast with Kristina Orlova

Have you ever felt ashamed of a habit you couldn’t control?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Aneela Idnani, co-founder of HabitAware and mental health advocate. Aneela opens up about living with trichotillomania (hair pulling disorder), how shame kept her silent for decades, and how awareness and acceptance transformed her recovery journey.   Aneela shares: • Her early experiences with hair pulling and intrusive thoughts • The hidden shame and secrecy that fueled her struggle for 20+ years • How pregnancy and stress intensified her compulsions • The turning point—finally opening up to her husband and seeking help • How HabitAware’s Keen Smart Bracelet helps build awareness and break the cycle   This conversation also dives into: • Why awareness is the first step to any lasting change • The role of self-care, mindfulness, and acceptance in recovery • How shifting perspective can turn struggle into strength • The importance of removing shame and embracing your full self   Whether you’re navigating OCD, BFRBs (Body-Focused Repetitive Behaviors), or supporting someone who is, this episode offers hope, tools, and strategies for healing.   📲About Aneela Idnani (guest): Co-founder of HabitAware Long-time lived experience: pulled hair since adolescence; integrated intrusive thoughts and self-soothing behaviors into her journey HabitAware: habitaware.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aneelaidnani   ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:30] Aneela’s Untold Story [01:39] When Hair Pulling First Began—and Why No One Saw It [03:46] Living in Silence: The Hidden Shame No One Talks About [06:11] The Moment Everything Changed—Her Husband Finds Out [07:33] From Struggle to Solution: How HabitAware Was Born [11:01] The Game-Changer: Turning Awareness Into Freedom [14:18] ADHD, Intrusive Thoughts & The Spiral of Self-Criticism [15:55] Shutting Down the Inner Bully: Mindfulness That Works [20:47] From Self-Hate to Self-Grace: Reframing the Struggle [24:43] Losing It All, Finding Meaning: Processing Grief Differently [26:47] Want to Heal? Here’s How to Reach Aneela & HabitAware   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • trichotillomania recovery • hair pulling disorder help • body-focused repetitive behaviors (BFRBs) • OCD and shame • awareness in OCD recovery • HabitAware Keen Smart Bracelet • living with OCD and BFRBs   © OCD Whisperer

What is Response Prevention and why is it the most important part of ERP?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with therapist Natalia Aiza. Together, they explore Response Prevention (the RP in ERP therapy)—why it’s the most crucial step in breaking free from OCD cycles, and how to actually apply it in daily life.   Natalia opens up about: • Why exposures without response prevention don’t work • The difference between physical vs. mental compulsions • Tools for handling rumination, avoidance, and reassurance-seeking • How “good enough” ERP (not perfection) helps real people recover   This conversation also dives into: • How to identify sneaky mental rituals disguised as “thinking” • Why delaying compulsions builds brain flexibility • The power of uncertainty, creativity, and new discoveries in recovery   Whether you’re struggling with OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers insight, clarity, and hope to guide your recovery journey.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] – Welcome back + today’s focus on Response Prevention [01:07] – What is response prevention in ERP? [01:45] – Mental vs. physical compulsions [03:19] – Building a response prevention “ladder” [04:17] – Identifying mental rituals as compulsions [05:50] – Why belief in compulsions makes ERP harder [07:01] – Rumination-focused ERP & breaking mental loops [08:57] – Mental distortions + using CBT to challenge analysis [10:47] – Sitting with not knowing vs. “maybe, maybe not” [13:10] – Distress tolerance + uncertainty in recovery [15:52] – Opposite action vs. “good enough” ERP [17:37] – When OCD flares up again: going back to basics [19:21] – Why response prevention matters long-term [21:29] – Designing RP: adaptive vs. compulsive behaviors [22:29] – Reality anchoring: using trusted people as baselines [23:50] – Creative RP examples & individualizing ERP   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • response prevention OCD • ERP therapy explained • mental compulsions OCD • breaking OCD cycles • rumination and OCD • uncertainty in OCD recovery     © OCD Whisperer

What if the story that makes you feel most ashamed… is the exact story you need to face?   This episode includes some words that platform may flag as problematic. We have muted them to prevent issues with the platform. These edits are purely for compliance and do not change the meaning or therapeutic purpose of the script.   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova continues her conversation with clinical director Natalia Aiza in part three of the ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) series. Together, they explore live exposures — the practice of confronting OCD fears in real time instead of avoiding them.   Natalia shares her journey of: • Facing intrusive fears head-on with live ERP • Learning to trust herself again after doubting her safety around loved ones • Why “breaking OCD’s rules” is key to recovery • What it really feels like to sit in the discomfort and not perform compulsions   This episode also dives into: • Why ERP feels counterintuitive — but works • How OCD uses secrecy and avoidance to stay powerful • The role of courage and compassion in confronting fears • Why recovery means learning to live with uncertainty   Whether you’re struggling with OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers insight, clarity, and hope to guide your recovery journey.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] – Welcome & Introduction [01:30] – Why ERP gets “fun & creative” outside the therapy room [02:35] – Pe*ophilia OCD & Harm OCD: You’re NOT who OCD says you are [03:05] – Babysitting kids as exposure?! Saying yes instead of no [04:00] – Why “belief” matters before facing taboo fears [05:30] – Parents avoiding their own children: breaking the cycle fast [06:15] – Intentional vs. organic exposures: what’s the difference? [07:00] – Life throws exposures at you daily — here’s how to use them [07:30] – Breaking OCD rules & sitting in raw discomfort [08:30] – Her scariest thought: “What if I throw my kids out the window?” [09:30] – Why your body reacts & what habituation really means [10:45] – Urge surfing: riding the wave without compulsions [12:30] – Facing identity & sexual orientation OCD with exposures [14:20] – Justice-based ERP: tailoring therapy without harm [16:30] – Faith & ERP: therapy that respects your religion [19:00] – The #1 job of ERP: teach the brain what’s truly safe [19:50] – Where to find Natalia & episode wrap-up   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • OCD live exposures • ERP therapy for OCD • intrusive thoughts recovery • OCD treatment strategies • facing fears in OCD • Kristina Orlova OCD Whisperer     © OCD Whisperer

What if the scariest story your mind tells… could actually set you free?   *This episode includes a live imaginal script. Some words that algorithm may flag as problematic have been muted to prevent issues with the platform. These edits are purely for compliance and do not change the meaning or therapeutic purpose of the script.*   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova sits down with Natalia for part two of a four-part series on ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention). Together, they dive into the misunderstood practice of imaginal exposures — a therapeutic tool that helps people face OCD’s darkest fears on paper, reclaim power from intrusive thoughts, and build true resilience.   Natalia opens up about: • Writing an imaginal script around her most feared intrusive thoughts • How OCD convinced her she could be a danger to her own children • Why telling the “fear story” in detail reduced its power • What it feels like to desensitize through repetition   This conversation also dives into: • Why OCD thrives on avoidance and secrecy • How imaginal exposures flip the power dynamic over intrusive thoughts • The role of compassion and creativity in ERP therapy   Whether you are navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone, this episode offers clarity, tools, and hope to help you understand ERP and take the first step toward recovery.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founbder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:30] – Introduction to ERP Series & Guest Natalia [01:05] – What is ERP? Understanding the basics [02:35] – Why would anyone face their fears? [05:40] – Misconceptions: Is ERP “torture”? [07:57] – How ERP is structured step by step [09:23] – Willingness vs distress levels: where to begin [11:30] – Helping clients move past fear and resistance [14:08] – Different approaches & therapist styles in ERP [17:08] – Starting with the least threatening exposures [18:21] – Distress tolerance vs compulsions: key nuance [20:09] – Examples of distress tolerance exercises [21:32] – Flexibility in ERP: adapting to clients’ needs [23:45] – Getting into the right mindset for ERP [25:04] – How long does ERP take to start showing relief? [28:20] – Closing reflections & key ERP takeaways   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords OCD imaginal exposures ERP therapy for OCD intrusive thoughts recovery OCD treatment strategies facing taboo fears in OCD Kristina Orlova OCD Whisperer     © OCD Whisperer    

Can ERP really help you face your biggest fears? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Natalia, a therapist specializing in OCD treatment. Together, they explore the foundations of Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) therapy and why it is considered first line treatment for OCD.   Natalia opens up about: The basics of ERP and how it actually works in practice Why people fear ERP and worry it will feel “torturous” How therapists can guide clients step by step without overwhelming them Strategies for building confidence and willingness in the recovery journey   This conversation also dives into: Common misconceptions about ERP and OCD treatment The importance of flexibility, creativity, and pacing in therapy How ERP is not about “beating you down” but about empowering lasting change Whether you are navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone, this episode offers clarity, tools, and hope to help you understand ERP and take the first step toward recovery.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founbder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:30] – Introduction to ERP Series & Guest Natalia [01:05] – What is ERP? Understanding the basics [02:35] – Why would anyone face their fears? [05:40] – Misconceptions: Is ERP “torture”? [07:57] – How ERP is structured step by step [09:23] – Willingness vs distress levels: where to begin [11:30] – Helping clients move past fear and resistance [14:08] – Different approaches & therapist styles in ERP [17:08] – Starting with the least threatening exposures [18:21] – Distress tolerance vs compulsions: key nuance [20:09] – Examples of distress tolerance exercises [21:32] – Flexibility in ERP: adapting to clients’ needs [23:45] – Getting into the right mindset for ERP [25:04] – How long does ERP take to start showing relief? [28:20] – Closing reflections & key ERP takeaways   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! My channel covers OCD recovery, intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT, anxiety management, and mindfulness tools. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords ERP therapy for OCD OCD recovery tools OCD treatment explained exposure and response prevention managing intrusive thoughts facing OCD fears OCD therapist tips     © OCD Whisperer    

What does it mean to succeed while living with OCD? In this episode, Kristina Orlova sits down with Scott Stirret, founder and CEO of Venture for Canada and author of The Uncertainty Advantage, to explore how OCD and uncertainty intersect with ambition, business, and personal growth. Scott opens up about his diagnosis during the pandemic, how OCD shaped his thoughts and rituals long before he had a name for it, and why getting evidence-based treatment through ERP was life-changing. He also shares candidly about setbacks, recovery, and what it means to manage OCD as a lifelong condition. Together, Kristina and Scott unpack the sneaky ways OCD shows up, the power of mindfulness and self-compassion, and how embracing uncertainty can actually become a strength rather than a fear. Whether you’re navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers hope, practical strategies, and a powerful reminder that success and OCD are not mutually exclusive.   The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: Why healing from OCD is a gradual process and not about “making thoughts go away.” How mindfulness and self-compassion can help untangle mental compulsions. Practical tools Scott uses like exercise, rest, and relationships—to manage OCD while leading a successful career.   In This Episode [00:01] Kristina’s welcome and introduction [00:36] Meet today’s guest, Scott [01:32] Scott’s OCD diagnosis and journey [04:08] Learning that OCD management is long-term [06:39] Writing The Uncertainty Advantage and the fear of uncertainty [08:26] Navigating OCD while building a business [09:58] How OCD manifests for Scott [11:21] Untangling mental rituals and compulsive thinking [13:22] Labeling compulsions with gentleness [14:20] Daily practices for ongoing management [16:01] Finding meaning in OCD and writing the book [18:47] Sitting with difficult feelings instead of running from them [20:44] Developing empathy through lived experience [21:13] Where to find Scott and his new book Our Guest Scott Stirret is the founder and CEO of Venture for Canada, a national charity that helps young people build entrepreneurial skills and careers. Over the past decade, the organization has raised over $80M and supported more than 10,000 youth across Canada. Scott is also the author of The Uncertainty Advantage, a book that guides early career professionals to build resilience by embracing uncertainty. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website   Scott Stirrett LinkedIn The Uncertainty Advantage on Amazon Substack Personal Website – with his Uncertainty Quiz   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Pregnancy and postpartum bring a unique set of challenges, especially for those struggling with OCD. How can you navigate the overwhelming changes while managing intrusive thoughts? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova, LMFT, is joined by Gina Abbondante, MSW, LCSW, C-NDAAP, a therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the perinatal and postpartum periods. Gina shares her expertise on how OCD manifests during pregnancy and the postpartum period, and how neurodivergent individuals can be supported through a neurodiversity-affirming approach. Together, Kristina and Gina dive into how therapies like Inference-Based CBT (ICBT) can be tailored to address the unique challenges faced by expectant and new mothers, and why holistic strategies, such as managing sleep and embracing self-compassion, are essential for long-term healing. If you’re a new or expecting parent struggling with OCD, this episode provides invaluable insights, practical tools, and an empathetic approach to managing your mental health through this transformative life stage.   The 3 things you’ll learn in today’s episode: How OCD manifests uniquely during pregnancy and postpartum. Why sleep management is crucial for those managing OCD during the perinatal period. Practical ways to blend evidence-based therapies with neurodiversity-affirming practices for more holistic support.   In This Episode [02:00] Gina’s background and approach to OCD treatment [04:50] OCD during pregnancy and postpartum: unique challenges [07:30] The impact of neurodivergence on OCD in new parents [10:15] How Inference-Based CBT can be used in pregnancy and postpartum [13:00] Gina’s personal experience with neurodivergence and OCD [16:00] The role of sleep and managing stress in OCD recovery [20:00] Practical tools for new parents managing OCD [24:30] Closing and final thoughts   Our Guest Gina Abbondante, MSW, LCSW, C-NDAAP is the Founder and Clinical Director of Change of Mind Counseling, specializing in the treatment of OCD and anxiety disorders, particularly during pregnancy and postpartum. Gina is trained in various therapeutic modalities, including Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) and Inference-Based CBT (ICBT), and is a passionate advocate for neurodivergent individuals, offering neurodiversity-affirming assessments for ADHD and autism. As a parent and partner to neurodivergent family members, Gina brings both personal and professional experience to her work, helping others navigate the challenges of mental health during life’s most transitional moments.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website   Gina Abbondante, MSW, LCSW, C-NDAAP Website Instagram   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

What does it feel like when your mind gets stuck on a loop, telling you again and again that you’re a bad person? That’s the reality of Pure OCD. In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova sits down with Sah D’Simone, spiritual teacher, humanitarian, and creator of the Somatic Activated Healing method, for an open and heartfelt conversation.   Sah shares his journey with intrusive thoughts that made him question his worth, how growing up in a Buddhist culture shaped his experience, and how the loss of his mother made everything even more intense. Instead of letting OCD take over, he’s leaned into Buddhist wisdom, somatic healing, and service to others as powerful ways to heal.   Together, Kristina and Sah unpack how OCD fuels cycles of self-obsession and why real healing often begins with learning to slow down, relax, and be present. They talk about the role of evidence-based treatments like ERP and ACT, while also highlighting holistic practices that calm the nervous system and nurture recovery.   If you’ve ever felt trapped by your own thoughts, this conversation offers hope, practical tools, and a fresh perspective on what healing can truly look like.   The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: Why relaxation and not constant productivity is crucial for calming an OCD brain. How Pure OCD manifests and why labels can be both freeing and limiting. Practical ways to balance evidence-based OCD treatments with Buddhist-inspired mindfulness and self-compassion. In This Episode [00:01] Introduction and guest welcome [58] Sah’s background and work [03:09] OCD and self-obsession [04:03] Sah’s personal OCD story [04:54] Pure OCD and identity [07:16] Cultural and religious influences [09:04] OCD manifestations and coping [09:53] Kristina’s OCD experience [10:45] The internal experience of OCD [12:51] Relaxation and cultural challenges [15:21] The importance of true relaxation [16:18] Blending Buddhist wisdom with evidence-based OCD therapies [17:57] Mind wandering and savoring the moment [18:57] Closing and farewell Our Guest Sah D’Simone is a spiritual teacher, grief educator, humanitarian, and creator of the Somatic Activated Healing Method, which blends Buddhist teachings, dance, and social justice. With a mission to bring love where love is not, Sah has dedicated his life to both personal transformation and global humanitarian service, supporting communities from Los Angeles to Nepal and India. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website   Sah D’Simone Website Instagram    Somatic Activated Healing Online Membership, which comes with a 7-day free trial Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Is Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) the only way to treat OCD? What if there’s another evidence-based approach that works differently and might even feel more intuitive to some?   In this episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova brings together a panel of seasoned OCD clinicians: Mike Heady, Christina Ennabe, Mike Parker, Carl Robbins, and Bronwyn Shroyer. Together, they unpack the essentials of Inference-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (ICBT) and how it compares to ERP.   They bust common myths like whether ICBT is just arguing with your thoughts and explain how it helps people move out of imagined fears and back into reality. They also dive into when ERP might still be helpful, how ICBT handles doubt differently, and what the research says about its effectiveness.   Whether you're new to ICBT or trying to figure out which approach fits you best, this conversation brings depth, clarity, and a refreshing perspective on OCD treatment.   The 4 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: Why mixing ICBT and ERP can be confusing if you don’t fully understand both How ICBT focuses on obsessional doubt rather than just intrusive thoughts What “reality sensing” really means and why it’s not the same as doing exposures What the research says about ICBT’s effectiveness and how it compares to ERP   In This Episode [00:31] Meet the panelists [03:56] Can CBT and IBT/ICT be used together? [07:29] Is CBT arguing with OCD? [11:09] Doubt vs. intrusion in OCD [17:49] Reality sensing vs. exposure [20:40] Normal vs. obsessional doubt [24:30] Reassurance in therapy [26:22] Research and evidence for IBT/ICT [36:07] Core fears and feared possible self [37:34] Closing remarks and resources Guests Featured Mike Heady, Co-owner and co-director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Institute (ASDI), co- chair for ICBT SIG at IOCDF Carl Robbins, Director of Training at ASDI and veteran OCD clinician Christina Ennabe, Licensed therapist specializing in OCD and trauma, Board Member OCD New Hampshire Mike Parker, Private practice owner focused on OCD using ICBT, ERP, and ACT. Host of the YouTube channel, OCD Space Bronwyn Shroyer, LCSW, ICBT trainer, and co-founder of OCD Training School, co- chair for ICBT SIG at IOCDF   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram  YouTube  OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner  Website Christina Ennabe Website LinkedIn https://www.christinaennabe.com/icbt-course-ocd-escaping-rabbit-hole  Mike Heady Anxiety and Stress Disorders Institute LinkedIn Mike Parker Website LinkedIn https://www.icbttrainingonline.com  Carl Robbins Website LinkedIn Bronwyn Shroyer Website LinkedIn OCD Training School   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

What if the most powerful way to help your anxious child isn’t to fix them—but to change you? In this episode of the OCD Whisperer podcast, host Kristina Orlova welcomes licensed therapist and anxiety expert Robyn Isman to discuss the SPACE protocol (Supportive Parenting for Anxious Childhood Emotions). Robyn, certified in SPACE, explains how this evidence-based approach helps reduce childhood anxiety by focusing solely on parents' behaviors rather than direct child intervention. She breaks down the SPACE framework, emphasizing how parental accommodations—such as avoiding triggers or providing excessive reassurance—unintentionally reinforce anxiety cycles.   Robyn highlights key steps in SPACE, including educating parents about anxiety as an interpersonal dynamic, identifying accommodations, and creating targeted plans to reduce them. She stresses the importance of "supportive language," which validates a child's fears while expressing confidence in their ability to cope. The conversation also tackles common challenges, such as managing meltdowns during the process and reframing accommodation reduction as an act of love. Robyn shares inspiring success stories and teases her upcoming membership program for parents seeking guidance.   Listeners will gain practical insights into fostering resilience in anxious children by stepping back—with compassion—to let them grow..   The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: Why reducing accommodations—not increasing them—is key to helping your anxious child. How to shift from "fixing your kid" to examining your own role in the anxiety cycle. Actionable tools from the SPACE method: mapping accommodations, supportive language, stress testing, and more.   In This Episode [00:00] Introduction and free OCD resources [00:45] Meet Robyn Iseman, SPACE-certified therapist [01:10] What is the SPACE method and how does it work? [02:20] Understanding anxiety as interpersonal [04:30] Parental accommodations: what they are and why they matter [07:50] Mapping accommodations and setting target behaviors [10:20] How to handle meltdowns and anger using SPACE [14:00] Emotional regulation—for parents [17:50] How to respond when your child gets upset [20:30] Supportive language and delayed response techniques [23:30] Creating distance from anxiety through externalization [25:50] Addressing safety, stress-testing, and tapping out as parents [28:45] The power of the “announcement” and doing this with love [33:00] Real-life results: How SPACE transforms family dynamics [35:11] Robyn’s upcoming membership and where to find her Our Guest Robyn Isman is a licensed therapist and anxiety expert certified in the SPACE method, with over a decade of experience working with children, teens, and families. Through her private practice and upcoming membership platform, Robyn equips parents with tools to confidently support their anxious children—without reinforcing the anxiety itself. She offers education, strategy, and compassion in equal measure.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram  YouTube  OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner  Website   Robyn Isman  Website LinkedIn Instagram Facebook Parenting The Anxious Child Membership Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever caught yourself picking at your skin, biting your nails, or pulling out a hair—then wondered why you can’t seem to stop? You’re not alone.   In this eye-opening episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova sits down with Juliet Gustafson , a Michigan-based OCD therapist and professor, to explore the often-misunderstood world of Body-Focused Repetitive Behaviors (BFRBs)—like hair pulling (trichotillomania), skin picking, and nail biting. Far from mere "bad habits," these behaviors are complex disorders tied to emotions, sensory triggers, and even biology. Juliette breaks down the five key drivers behind BFRBs: sensory satisfaction, cognitive patterns, emotional states, motor habits, and environmental cues.   You'll learn how to distinguish between occasional grooming and compulsive behaviors, discover practical strategies for intervention (like replacement movements and awareness tools), and explore compassionate approaches to self-management. The episode also highlights vital resources, including the TLC Foundation, HabitAware’s smart bracelets, and supportive communities like BFRB Changemakers.   Whether you’re struggling with BFRBs or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers hope, clarity, and actionable steps to reclaim control—plus a reminder: healing is possible.   The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: Why BFRBs are more than habits—they’re coping mechanisms. How to identify your personal triggers and replace harmful behaviors. Where to find support, tools, and expert-backed solutions. In This Episode [00:00] Introduction  [00:45] Juliette’s academic and professional background [01:12] Defining body-focused repetitive behaviors (BFRBs) [02:22] Recognizing BFRBs and their impact [03:28] Identifying and understanding BFRBs in yourself [04:19] Managing and exploring BFRBs [05:29] Functions and triggers of BFRBs [09:04] Replacing and modifying BFRB habits [10:58] Awareness and control in BFRBs [12:54] Intervening and self-compassion [13:44] Tools and resources for BFRBs [15:20] Additional BFRB resources and communities [17:27] Encouragement and self-kindness [18:28] The Fidget Podcast and more resources [18:28] OCD representation in media [19:23] Closing and podcast outro Our Guest Juliet Gustafson  is a licensed OCD therapist based in Michigan, a part-time professor at Wayne State University’s School of Social Work, and co-host of the Intrusive Plots podcast, which explores OCD representation in film and TV. With a deep passion for helping people better understand and manage OCD and related conditions, Juliette brings both clinical expertise and lived experience into her work. Through therapy, advocacy, and education, she’s helping break the stigma around misunderstood struggles like BFRBs. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram  YouTube  OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner  Website   Juliet Gustafson  Website LinkedIn Instagram Patreon Community Podcast   Mentioned Cognitive Therapy for OCD Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh  ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe TLC Foundation for BFRBs Picking Me Foundation BFRB Changemakers HabitAware & Keen Bracelet The Fidget Podcast with Jason Yu Film (Exposure, Director: Peter Cannon)

Did you know OCD is like an overprotective friend—one that targets what you love most? It sounds strange, doesn’t it?   In this episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova is joined by Dr. Thomas Ballas, a clinical psychologist specializing in OCD, anxiety, perfectionism, and trauma. Dr. Ballas provides therapy via telehealth across 42 states and brings a practical, evidence-based perspective to the discussion.   Together, they explore the concept of theme shifting in OCD—how intrusive thoughts often jump from one obsession to another—and why ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) remains effective even as themes evolve. The conversation also covers Relationship OCD, highlighting ways to differentiate between genuine relationship concerns and OCD-driven doubt.   The episode concludes with a discussion on rebuilding self-trust and confidence after years of navigating OCD.   If you've ever found yourself second-guessing your thoughts, your feelings, or even your relationships, this conversation offers clarity, practical tools, and a fresh way to understand what’s really going on. Let’s jump into it! The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: Why OCD themes change and how to apply ERP no matter what your brain latches onto What differentiates real relationship concerns from Relationship OCD and how to tell the difference How to build mood-independent confidence and make values-based decisions despite doubt In This Episode [00:32] Introduction to Dr Thomas Ballas [01:23] What OCD theme shifting is and why it happens [02:01] Why OCD attacks what we value most [03:29] The internal false alarm system and shifting fear [05:07] How to apply ERP even when themes change [06:11] Noticing the same patterns behind different thoughts [07:05] Navigating taboo and emotionally charged OCD themes [08:19] “But this time it feels different” – how to manage doubts that seem real [09:23] Diving into Relationship OCD and distinguishing it from real concerns [11:14] Real dysfunction vs. OCD-fueled rumination [13:07] Self-doubt, shame, and the role of mood-independent choices [14:25] Confidence, compassion, and choosing values-based actions [15:28] Where to find Dr. Thomas Ballas online Our Guest Dr. Thomas Ballas is a clinical psychologist based in New York and New Jersey, specializing in OCD, anxiety, perfectionism, and trauma. Through telehealth, he serves clients in over 42 states. His approach emphasizes evidence-based techniques like ERP and values-driven recovery. Dr. Ballas is passionate about helping people regain self-trust and build resilience on their journey with OCD. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram  YouTube  OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner  Website   Dr. Thomas Ballas Website Instagram LinkedIn   Mentioned Cognitive Therapy for OCD Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh  ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!  

In this powerful and candid episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova sits down with Hussain, the founder of The Struggling Warrior, a platform dedicated to raising awareness and educating people about OCD. With over a decade of personal experience, Hussain shares his journey from the onset of his OCD at a young age to his eventual path to therapy and recovery.   Hussain opens up about the challenges of dealing with intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and the isolation that came with his OCD. He discusses his struggles through college, how his OCD affected his academic life, and the turning point when he finally reached out for help. In this conversation, Kristina and Hussain explore how therapy, ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention), and medication ultimately helped him regain control of his life.   Additionally, Hussain shares his passion for supporting others living with OCD and his mission behind creating his platform and writing his book, Listen Up: OCD is Talking. He discusses his book's unique approach, personalizing OCD, and offering readers insights into how OCD functions, its tricks, and ways to challenge it.   Whether you're on your own OCD journey or seeking inspiration and guidance, this episode offers hope, vulnerability, and practical advice. The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: How OCD can evolve and worsen over time, and the importance of seeking help before hitting rock bottom Why finding the right therapist is crucial for recovery and the impact of a supportive, understanding relationship Hussain’s innovative approach to understanding OCD through his book Listen Up: OCD is Talking and his Unbound OCD Toolkit In This Episode [00:03] Introduction and guest introduction [01:08] Hussain’s early experiences with OCD and intrusive thoughts [03:42] The development of compulsive behaviors and the impact on his school life [06:07] Hitting rock bottom during college and the decision to reach out for help [08:21] The turning point: reaching out to his family and seeking therapy [09:24] The struggles with stigma and the mental health system [12:05] Medication changes and how his OCD evolved [14:52] Finding the right therapist and the introduction of ERP [16:22] How Hussain’s book and resources aim to help others living with OCD [20:47] Conclusion and how to reach out to Hussain and access his resources Our Guest   Hussain is the founder of The Struggling Warrior, a platform aimed at educating and raising awareness about OCD. With over a decade of personal experience, he is dedicated to breaking the stigma surrounding mental health and offering practical tools for managing OCD. Hussain is also the author of Listen Up: OCD is Talking and the creator of the Unbound OCD Toolkit. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram  YouTube  OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner  Website   Hussain Al Abdullah Website Listen Up: OCD is Talking  Unbound OCD Toolkit Instagram LinkedIn Mentioned Cognitive Therapy for OCD Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh  ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In this deeply personal and enlightening episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova sits down with  Crystal  Propes—a wife, mother of three, and passionate mental health advocate.  Crystal  shares her lifelong experience with emetophobia (fear of vomiting), OCD, ADHD, and PTSD, offering a raw and honest look at what it’s like to live with intersecting conditions—and how healing is possible.   Crystal  opens up about the early onset of emetophobia and how it later intertwined with health and contamination OCD, particularly as a mother. She walks us through the long road to diagnosis, the gap between recognizing OCD and finally seeking help, and the breakthrough she experienced using Inference-Based CBT (I-CBT).   You’ll hear about how CBT modules, especially those on reality sensing and alternative narratives, helped her stop ruminating and reconnect with the present. Kristina and  Crystal  also dive into the nuanced differences between OCD and ADHD, offering clarity and validation for listeners who might be navigating both.   Whether you’re exploring treatment options, parenting with OCD, or trying to make peace with uncertainty, this episode is filled with hope, humor, and empowering insights. The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: How emetophobia and OCD often intertwine—and why it can escalate during parenthood Why ERP isn’t one-size-fits-all, and how CBT reality-sensing exercises helped  Crystal  stop compulsive rumination The surprising differences between OCD-driven behaviors and ADHD tendencies—and how understanding both leads to self-compassion In This Episode [00:03] Introduction and guest introduction [01:08]  Crystal ’s early experiences with OCD and phobia [02:04] Teenage years and OCD development [03:38] Realization and diagnosis of OCD [04:17] College years and OCD struggles [06:16] Seeking treatment and therapy journey [08:46] CBT modules and life-changing insights [12:05] Managing doubt and realistic fears [14:44] Acceptance and setting boundaries [16:28] OCD and ADHD intersection [18:32] ADHD symptoms and coping strategies [20:28] Conclusion and contact information   Our Guest Crystal  Props is a wife, mom of three, and passionate advocate living with OCD, emetophobia, ADHD, and PTSD. Through her candid storytelling and social media presence, she helps others feel seen in their mental health journeys, breaking stigma and offering relatable, real-life tools for navigating anxiety, neurodivergence, and parenting.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram  YouTube  OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner  Website   Crystal Propes Instagram   Mentioned Cognitive Therapy for OCD I-CBT Training Online Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh  ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Living with OCD isn’t just about managing anxiety—it’s about reclaiming your life through your values. In this powerful episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova welcomes OCD therapist Lennon Jones, founder of Golden Hour OCD and Anxiety, to explore how personal values bring clarity, purpose, and resilience to Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) therapy.   ERP, first line treatment for OCD treatment, can often feel grueling, especially when it’s reduced to simply "sitting with anxiety." Lennon shares why this approach can feel torturous without an internal compass—and how integrating Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) shifts the focus from fear to meaning. Together, Kristina and Lennon unpack how clarifying your values (like connection, creativity, or service) can turn exposures from hollow tasks into empowering acts of self-trust.   They dive into psychological flexibility, the antidote to OCD’s rigid thinking, and offer real-life examples of how values-based actions—even small ones—can help you live with purpose, despite intrusive thoughts. Whether you're just starting treatment or navigating setbacks, this episode offers hope, compassion, and actionable guidance for building a life driven by what matters most.   Tune in to learn how to stop living for certainty—and start living for your values. The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: What makes OCD treatment feel torturous—and how a simple mindset shift can change everything The surprising mistake many people make with exposure therapy (and what to do instead). Why saying “maybe I am a terrible person” might actually be the path to healing. In This Episode   [00:00:01] Introduction and guest welcome   [00:01:10] The importance of values in ERP   [00:03:57] Meaning behind exposures   [00:05:48] Blending ERP and ACT: Facing daunting thoughts   [00:09:25] Building a solid values base   [00:10:13] Evolution of ERP and incorporating values   [00:11:45] Values in relationship OCD   [00:12:33] Values are not perfection   [00:14:19] Introducing psychological flexibility   [00:15:13] CBT, ERP, and psychological flexibility   [00:18:33] Recognizing rigidity and all-or-nothing thinking   [00:20:17] Practical values-based tool   [00:24:05] Exposure to your true self   [00:25:41] Autonomy and making choices   [00:26:44] Trusting yourself and closing thoughts   [00:27:03] How to find Lennon    Notable Quotes   [02:15] "Exposure therapy should not be torture. And if it doesn't have those values, beliefs, that trust in yourself behind it, a lot of times it can be torturous for people." —Lennon   [23:59] "Sometimes the exposure we’re trying to do is exposing yourself to who you really are.." — Lennon   [11:48] "If I'm having a relationship-based OCD and not sure about my partner, but I know connection is a value for me, then yeah, maybe I’m going to go and spend time with my partner even though I'm feeling anxious and uncomfortable."— Kristina   [12:47] "A value per se is not measurable. Like you can't reach a certain level of perfection in the value." — Lennon   [13:59] "Psychological flexibility... is the goal of exposure therapy. We want to be more flexible in these situations. We want to just enjoy our lives." — Lennon   [21:58] "I’m open about my OCD. There’s still a certain way I thought, and next thing you know, you’re right back in this anxious state that just feels horrendous.'." — Kristina   [23:12] "Even in an area where your senses can't detect anything, the reasonable, rational way to live is to do that functional certainty thing and just to assume you're okay." — Mike Parker Our Guest   Lennon Jones is a licensed OCD and anxiety therapist based in Southern Utah and the founder of Golden Hour OCD and Anxiety, a digital platform offering support and education for those navigating OCD recovery. She specializes in Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), helping clients move from fear-driven behavior to values-based living. Lennon is also involved in global mental health efforts, providing free therapy to Ukrainian refugees. Her approach is grounded in compassion, psychological flexibility, and helping clients reconnect with who they are beyond OCD. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram  YouTube  OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner  Website   Lennon Jones Website  Facebook Instagram YouTube   Mentioned Cognitive Therapy for OCD I-CBT Training Online Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh  ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

🧠 Episode Summary: Struggling with feeling ugly, ashamed, or alone? In this episode, Dr. Sony Khemlani-Patel shares insights from 25+ years of treating OCD and Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD). Discover how BDD affects self-worth, why it’s often misunderstood, and what real recovery looks like.     🔍 What You’ll Learn: • How Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) differs from body image issues and eating disorders • Why people with BDD often suffer in silence—and what keeps them from speaking up • The impact of social media, AI, and perfection culture on self-perception • Real-life insights from clinical practice, including powerful patient stories • How shame, trauma, and brain biology intertwine in BDD • What therapy approaches work best—and how to break the comparison cycle • How to recognize the signs of BDD and take the first step toward healing   ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:00:23] Introduction to the episode [00:01:48] BDD vs Body Image vs Eating Disorder: Understanding the Differences [00:03:36] Eating Disorders and BDD: How They Overlap and What Makes Them Different [00:05:10] BDD and Distorted Perception: Seeing Flaws That Aren’t Really There [00:05:51] Is BDD in the Brain? The Biological Side of the Disorder [00:06:53] Best Real-Life Example of BDD in Everyday Life [00:07:26] Hyperfocusing: When the Brain Locks Onto Details and You Zoom Out [00:07:53] The Patient Who Was a Photographer: A Unique BDD Story [00:08:25] What to Say When Someone’s “Flaw” Isn’t Just in Their Head [00:09:46] Is BDD Caused by Trauma or Is it Something Else? [00:10:52] Understanding the Gap Between Appearance and Body Image [00:12:07] Looking in the Mirror: Carrying the Weight of Childhood and Environment [00:12:53] Spotting BDD in Yourself: Key Warning Signs and Actions [00:15:36] What Percentage of People with BDD Experience Suicidal Thoughts? [00:16:08] Why People Hide Their BDD from Doctors and Loved Ones [00:17:13] The Comparison Trap: AI, Social Media, and Unrealistic Perfection [00:19:04] How to Stop Comparing Yourself and Find Peace [00:19:59] What Therapy Works Best for BDD? Expert Recommendations [00:21:44] Managing Heavy Emotions and Shame in BDD Treatment [00:23:13] Closing Reflections and Final Thoughts   🛠️ Resources & Links Mentioned: 🎁 Free Download: https://shorturl.at/KcTxM 📓 OCD Journal: https://shorturl.at/7pUxB   ✅Bio Behavioral Institute: 👉Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bio.behavioral/ 👉Website - www.biobehavioralinstitute.com   👤 About the Host: The OCD Whisperer Podcast is hosted by Kristina Orlova, LMFT, a licensed therapist who has helped hundreds of clients with OCD and anxiety using ERP, ACT, and ICBT.   🌐 Learn more: www.korresults.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer 📧 Subscribe to the newsletter: https://shorturl.at/KcTxM   🎧 Subscribe & Follow: Never miss an episode! 🟢 Spotify → https://shorturl.at/k5kEq 🍎 Apple Podcasts → https://shorturl.at/C30wn 📻 All platforms → https://ocdwhisperer.podbean.com/ 🔔 Youtube → https://www.youtube.com/@OCDWhisperer   ⚠️Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   © OCD Whisperer

🧠 Episode Summary: What if your own mind was the biggest mystery you ever had to solve? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova sits down with writer and director Dillon Tucker, creator of the narrative feature film PURE O. Diagnosed with OCD himself, Dillon shares how the chaos, fear, and obsessive spirals of his own mind became the raw material for a deeply personal and groundbreaking movie. Together, they explore the power of storytelling to humanize OCD, break stigma, and reach those silently suffering. This isn’t just a film—it’s a lifeline for people who feel misunderstood, unseen, and trapped in their own thoughts. Because sometimes the most healing thing we can do… is turn pain into art.   🔍 What You’ll Learn: • How turning OCD pain into art can be healing for you and others • Why films like PURE O matter in breaking OCD stigma • What makes OCD storytelling different from typical mental health narratives • How OCD can be reframed as a superpower through creativity and advocacy   ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:00:01] Introduction to the episode   [00:01:35] Did Dillon Expect the Film to Be Therapeutic for Others?   [00:03:00] What Viewers Said After Watching Film   [00:04:05] Dilan’s Emotional Response to Seeing the Finished Film   [00:04:15] The Purpose Behind Making This Movie   [00:05:30] Where the Film Stands Now & What’s Coming   [00:06:30] Why Everyone Should Watch This Movie — Not Only People with OCD   [00:07:20] We Need More Stories, Films, and Resources on OCD   [00:08:05] What to Know Before Making Something Similar / Manage Emotional Weight   [00:10:00] OCD as a Superpower: Boosting Your Potential   [00:11:25] First Time Screening the Film in a Movie Theater   [00:13:00] How Family Reacted to the Film’s Premiere   [00:13:30] Dilon's OCD Advocacy and Impact Today   [00:14:28] The Community Built Through OCD Advocacy   [00:14:47] OCD Is Gaining Awareness and Acceptance   [00:15:46] Why Mainstream Media Representation of OCD Matters   [00:17:36] Movie Characters Development Explained   [00:18:28] OCD and the Pain of Social Isolation / Educating Loved Ones About OCD   [00:20:04] Other Popular Films and Series Featuring Disorders   [00:21:27] Where Can You Watch the Film? / Where Can You Reach Out to Them?   [00:22:20] Closing Reflections and Final Thoughts     🛠️ Resources & Links Mentioned: 🎁 Free Download: https://shorturl.at/KcTxM 📓 OCD Journal: https://shorturl.at/7pUxB   ✅Dillon Tucker: 👉Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dillontucker/   ✅Pure O Movie: 👉Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pure_o_movie/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw%3D%3D 👉Buy/rent a movie - https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0CVR6M2NJ/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r 👉Watch on Tubi -https://shorturl.at/C5PGX   👤 About the Host: The OCD Whisperer Podcast is hosted by Kristina Orlova, LMFT, a licensed therapist who has helped hundreds of clients with OCD and anxiety using ERP, ACT, and ICBT.   🌐 Learn more: www.korresults.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer 📧 Subscribe to the newsletter: https://shorturl.at/KcTxM   🎧 Subscribe & Follow: Never miss an episode! 🟢 Spotify → https://shorturl.at/k5kEq 🍎 Apple Podcasts → https://shorturl.at/C30wn 📻 All platforms → https://ocdwhisperer.podbean.com/ 🔔 Youtube → https://www.youtube.com/@OCDWhisperer   ⚠️Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   © OCD Whisperer

Episode Summary: Do you feel trapped in endless loops of “what if”? Like your brain is constantly playing out worst-case scenarios, you can’t prove, but can’t ignore either? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Frederick Aardema, clinical psychologist, OCD researcher, and co-creator of Inference-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (ICBT). Together, we unpack how faulty reasoning and imagination, not just intrusive thoughts, drive OCD. Dr. Aardema shares how ICBT offers a powerful path back to reality, trust, and your authentic self—without relying on fear-based exposures.   🔍 What You’ll Learn: Why OCD is more about reasoning than anxiety How imagination overrides perception in OCD The concept of “functional certainty” and how it heals obsessional doubt How ICBT differs from ERP and when to use which Why your OCD may be rooted in a “false self” and how to reconnect with who you really are 🛠️ Resources & Links Mentioned: OCD Journal → https://shorturl.at/7pUxB Guest: Dr. Frederick Aardema’s Books → Resolving OCD Vol. 1 & Resolving OCD Vol. 2 ICBT Online Resource Center → https://icbt.online ICBT Masterclass → https://www.korresults.com/icbtmasterclass Sneaky Rituals Masterclass → https://www.korresults.com/sneakyrituals 📩 Take Action: 👉 Subscribe to the newsletter → https://shorturl.at/KcTxM   👤 About the Host: The OCD Whisperer Podcast is hosted by Kristina Orlova, LMFT, a licensed therapist who helps people with OCD and anxiety using ERP, ACT, and ICBT. 🌐 Learn more: www.korresults.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer 📧 Subscribe to the newsletter: https://shorturl.at/KcTxM 🎧 Subscribe & Follow: 🟢 Spotify → https://shorturl.at/k5kEq 🍎 Apple Podcasts → https://shorturl.at/C30wn 📻 All platforms → https://ocdwhisperer.podbean.com/ 🔔 Youtube → https://www.youtube.com/@OCDWhisperer   Disclaimer Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

🧠 Episode Summary: In this podcast episode, two close friends delve into a journey of battling OCD, confronting alcohol dependency, and the transformative power of support. They discuss the daily challenges of living with obsessive-compulsive disorder, the spiral into substance use, and how a steadfast friendship became the cornerstone of recovery.   🔍 What You’ll Learn: The difference between mental compulsions and real problem-solving Response prevention and OCD limits Strategies that helped manage OCD How to respond when intrusive thoughts hit   [00:00:01] Introduction to the episode [00:01:45] Childhood with OCD: daily struggles [00:02:20] The descent into alcohol use and memory loss [00:04:15] Developing a new obsession [00:05:41] Opening up to a trusted friend [00:06:30] Realizing it’s OCD & taking the first step [00:07:34] Obsessing over OCD and facing new problems [00:08:54] Turning point towards healing [00:09:20] Friendship that changed everything [00:10:05] What helped the most in recovery [00:12:50] Strategies that helped manage OCD [00:14:50] The power of not answering OCD [00:17:23] How a friend found a way to help [00:19:13] Lessons learned and moving forward [00:21:27] OCD has no limits: response prevention [00:22:20] Encouragement for those struggling [00:23:20] Closing reflections and final thoughts   👤 About the Host: The OCD Whisperer Podcast is hosted by Kristina Orlova, LMFT, a licensed therapist who has helped hundreds of clients with OCD and anxiety using ERP, ACT, and ICBT. 🌐 Learn more: www.korresults.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer 📧 Subscribe to the newsletter: https://shorturl.at/KcTxM   🎧 Subscribe & Follow: Never miss an episode! 🟢 Spotify → https://shorturl.at/k5kEq 🍎 Apple Podcasts → https://shorturl.at/C30wn 📻 All platforms → https://ocdwhisperer.podbean.com/ 🔔 Youtube → https://www.youtube.com/@OCDWhisperer   🛠️ Resources & Links Mentioned: 📓 OCD Journal → [Insert link] https://shorturl.at/7pUxB   🧠 Guests: Liam & Kirby 📸 Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/sharedmindspodcast/ 🔔 Youtube → https://www.youtube.com/@SharedMindsPodcast 🟢 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/1fIUNuUyovjDJM3bIaqCKu     Disclaimer Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

You wash your hands… but did you really get them clean? You wiped down the package… but what if something invisible is still there? You tell yourself it’s fine, yet your brain won’t let it go. If that sounds familiar, you’re not alone. In this episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova welcomes back Mike Parker, licensed clinical social worker and creator of the OCD Space YouTube channel, to explore the obsessive doubt that drives contamination fears—and the path out of its grip. Together, they dive into the complexities of inference-based cognitive behavioral therapy (ICBT) and how it helps those with OCD step out of fear-driven reasoning and back into reality. But how do you convince your mind to trust your senses when OCD keeps whispering “what if”? Whether it’s worries about unseen germs on a park bench, contamination from a package, or the lingering fear of harming others through inaction, this conversation lays it bare. Mike and Kristina break down the difference between healthy caution and compulsive checking, and why the way we reason matters just as much as the content of our fears. They explore how OCD hijacks imagination and certainty, and why choosing functional certainty—the decision to act as if you’re okay unless proven otherwise—can be a powerful turning point. Can you learn to trust your senses again? Or will your imagination keep calling the shots? Tune in and find out—this might just change how you see everything… especially what you can’t see. Let's dive in!   In This Episode [00:00:03]  Introduction to the episode [00:00:53]  Understanding ICBT [00:01:08]  Discussion on contamination fears [00:02:13]  Addressing invisible threats [00:03:04]  Grounding in reality [00:06:37]  Healthy reasoning vs. OCD reasoning [00:10:21]  Living with possibility [00:12:06]  Inferential confusion in OCD [00:13:33]  Constantly thinking about the unseen [00:14:24]  Helping clients recognize reality [00:15:29]  The challenge of OCD as a competitor [00:16:50]  Understanding reality and OCD [00:18:48]  Trust and perception [00:19:30]  Reality sensing in CBT [00:20:43]  Behavioral change and CBT [00:21:58]  Individualized treatment approaches [00:23:01]  Possibility vs. sensory information [00:24:02]  Relying on senses [00:24:25] Closing remarks and resources Notable Quotes [03:04] "It's true our senses can't detect certain things, but we have ways of dealing with that. They're already established, you know, as far as hand washing routines or, you know, if it's a religious situation, how much you should pray, what rituals you should do." — Mike Parker [06:06] "Healthy reasoning is like, okay, I know the limitations of my senses. I know what information I have available, and then ultimately I'm gonna make that decision based on that." — Mike Parker [07:07] "If you really want to sit on park benches and stop doing that. Let's realize you don't have to actually concern yourself with what you can't." — Mike Parker [15:59] "So, right, what you're telling me basically, is you're walking down the street and you have no visible poop on you, and you don't smell poop on you, and you're thinking about poop. We gotta figure out what's going on there, because you don't do that anywhere else in life." — Mike Parker [21:58] "I’m open about my OCD. There’s still a certain way I thought, and next thing you know, you’re right back in this anxious state that just feels horrendous.'." — Kristina [23:12] "Even in an area where your senses can't detect anything, the reasonable, rational way to live is to do that functional certainty thing and just to assume you're okay." — Mike Parker Our Guest Mike Parker, LCSW, is a licensed clinical social worker and private practice therapist based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He specializes in treating obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) using cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) and inference-based cognitive therapy (I-CBT). As the host of the OCD Space YouTube channel, Mike is dedicated to educating individuals and mental health professionals on effective OCD treatment approaches. He is passionate about helping clients understand and overcome obsessional doubt while also training fellow therapists in evidence-based interventions. With a focus on empowering individuals to trust themselves and break free from the cycle of compulsions, Mike continues to be a leading voice in the OCD treatment community. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website Mike Parker Website  LinkedIn  YouTube Mentioned Cognitive Therapy for OCD I-CBT Training Online Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh (https://www.korresults.com/sneakyrituals) ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe (https://www.korresults.com/icbtmasterclass) Disclaimer Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!