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Author: Gina Rubel

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Our multi-award-winning podcast dives deep into the strategies and insights that matter most to law firm leaders tasked with driving growth, innovation, and success. Our weekly episodes are created for decision-makers at law firms. Whether you are a managing partner, chief, executive committee member, or practice or industry group chair, our show is your resource for navigating complex challenges, fostering strategic growth, and staying ahead in an evolving legal landscape. We welcome topic ideas at podcast@onrecordpr.com.
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As firms enter 2026, many of last year's pressures haven't disappeared—they've intensified. In this episode of On Record PR, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr examine what law firm leaders are already grappling with: flexibility that must translate into action, talent shifts reshaping culture, and AI's growing impact on pricing, leadership, and client trust. This is a conversation about priorities, not predictions—and the cost of standing still.
Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr break down PR Daily's top five trends for 2026 and translate them into practical implications for the legal industry. They explore how narrative intelligence, GEO, AI monitoring, video, and data governance intersect with crisis preparedness, business development, talent recruitment, and long-term reputation management.
In this episode of On Record PR, Gina Rubel goes on record with Maria Feeley, the Chief Legal Officer of Washington and Lee University, to discuss the important role of the general counsel in times of crisis and GC's expectations of outside counsel.
Director of Media Relations Becky Bergman joins Jennifer Simpson Carr to discuss how PR and media strategy are evolving in the era of AI. From newsroom changes to AI-driven research, they explore what law firms must do to strengthen visibility, credibility, and discoverability. Becky shares actionable steps firms can take this week to future-proof their media strategy.
To mark episode 200, host Jennifer Simpson Carr is joined by teammates Kim Miller, Mahalet Ropar, and Kyla Thompson to discuss top takeaways from LMA's 2025 TWxSW Conference. They explore GEO and gated content, breaking down silos, responsible AI adoption, evolving pricing models, and a powerful fireside chat on the rule of law.
From the C.O.P.E.S. method to "rules and tools," Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr unpack what really moves the needle: speaking invites, media citations, backlinks, and peer referrals. Plus, a 5-step framework to activate authentic advocates without adding to the billable hour burden.
From the reality that 95% of decisions are driven by emotion to the rise of nano-influencers and ethical AI, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr give law firm leaders practical steps to build credibility, manage risk, and convert digital trust into business outcomes.
Fresh off the Women, Influence & Power in Law Conference, hosts Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr discuss a core theme reshaping the profession: in an AI-accelerated world, relationships are the differentiator. From client trust and judgment to reverse mentorship and "clear is kind" communication, they share a practical framework and rituals leaders can use to retain clients and talent.
Deb Ruffins, a member of Furia Rubel's International Faculty, returns to On Record PR to continue the conversation on why law firms must evolve beyond the billable hour. In this episode, she and Jennifer Simpson Carr explore how leaders can break down silos, incentivize collaboration, and implement accountability systems that drive sustainable growth and stronger client relationships.
Former Big Law CMO and International Faculty member Deb Ruffins joins Jennifer Simpson Carr to examine the future of the billable hour. They explore why clients are pushing for new models, the risks firms face if they remain locked into traditional metrics, and how attorneys can shift from service providers to trusted business partners.
Leslie Richards returns to demystify Google's knowledge panels —what they are, why they matter, and how they intersect with GEO (generative engine optimization). They unpack how panels signal authority to both humans and AI, the realistic limits of "optimization," and the practical steps attorneys can take now to build credibility before anyone clicks.
Leslie Richards joins Jennifer Simpson Carr to demystify GEO—generative engine optimization—and its impact on law firm marketing. From zero-click results to authority signals across the digital ecosystem, they unpack how AI summaries cite sources and what that means for traffic, reputation, and referrals.  
From AVEs to attribution dashboards, law firms often struggle to prove the ROI of public and media relations. Jennifer Simpson Carr and Sarah Larson discuss why the most meaningful outcomes—trust, reputation, and credibility—can't always be measured in clicks. They share strategies for reframing PR success, identifying alternative metrics, and helping law firm leaders recognize the long-term business value of communications.
From Am Law 50 in-office mandates to firms doubling down on virtual models, RTO is reshaping culture, collaboration, mentorship, and talent retention across the legal industry. In this episode, Gina and Jennifer share strategies for transparent communication, defining benefits clearly, and building internal champions to drive buy-in during this pivotal shift.
In this follow-up to last week's On Record PR episode on partner leadership, host Jennifer Simpson Carr sits down again with Mark Beese, leadership consultant and member of Furia Rubel's International Faculty, to focus on the next generation of law firm leaders, including senior associates, junior partners, and rising stars preparing to take on leadership roles.
International Faculty member Mark Beese discusses the need for partner-level leadership development in today's volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous (VUCA) environment. Mark shares his perspective on the lack of formal leadership training in law firms, the real costs of that gap for engagement and retention, and practical ways firms can build leadership capacity to meet the challenges of today.
Katayun Jaffari, Chancellor of the Philadelphia Bar Association, discusses Meeting the Moment, a movement mobilizing lawyers to defend democracy, safeguard judicial independence, and expand access to justice amid escalating political polarization and legal uncertainty.
Leslie Richards and Isabelle Horan break down AI agents—what they are, how they differ from other popular AI tools, and why they're set to transform workflows across industries, including law. They also share practical ways professionals can prepare now to remain relevant and valuable in a rapidly changing landscape.
Building on last week's DigiMarCon 2025 recap, Leslie Richards and Isabelle Horan unpack the evolution from traditional Search Engine Optimization (SEO) to Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) and what that means for law firms today.
Leslie Richards and Isabelle Horan share key takeaways from the 2025 DigiMarCon Conference, including how law firms can move beyond basic content generation and instead use generative AI tools for advanced strategic applications.
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