I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

I sat down live in Napa Valley with Shannon Rowbury and Jessica Dorrington, co-authors of the new book Strong as a Mother. We recorded this conversation at the Napa Valley Marathon expo, and it centers on what it looks like to return to running after pregnancy, rebuild after injury, and support athletes through every stage of motherhood and performance. Shannon is a three-time Olympian and Olympic bronze medalist in the 1500 meters. Her medal came years after the 2012 Olympic final, when multiple athletes ahead of her were later disqualified for doping. In this conversation, she reflects on that experience and the complicated reality of receiving an Olympic medal long after the race is over. Jessica Dorrington is a board-certified orthopedic clinical specialist and pelvic health physical therapist who works with many elite runners. She shares practical, grounded insight on postpartum recovery, pelvic health, and how athletes can safely return to running after pregnancy or injury. Together, Shannon and Jess talk about the inspiration behind Strong as a Mother, why better education around postpartum recovery is so needed in sport, and how runners can approach their comeback with patience, perspective, and the right support. We also talk about Shannon’s career, the emotional complexity of elite competition, and the importance of understanding the body through every phase of life. This episode is part of my weekend at the Napa Valley Marathon, where I had the chance to serve as race emcee and host conversations with athletes and leaders in the running community. Topics covered: Longevity in running and what helps you keep running for decades Why consistency matters more than any one perfect week of training Recovery as a key part of performance How training needs change as you age Strength training, calf strength, plyometrics, and core work for runners Injury setbacks and using them as opportunities to learn more about your body Shannon Rowbury’s femoral neck stress fracture in college and comeback to make her first Olympic team The role of biomechanics, leg length differences, orthotics, and maintenance work in staying healthy Postpartum return to running and why timelines are highly individual What happens to the abdominal wall and pelvic floor during pregnancy and postpartum Why more women are returning to elite running after having babies The lack of pregnancy and postpartum resources for athletes and why Strong as a Mother was written Pelvic floor health for runners and why it matters for both women and men Shannon Rowbury’s delayed Olympic bronze medal from the 2012 1500m Doping in sport and the emotional impact of delayed justice The importance of clean sport, reform, and fighting for integrity in athletics Mental preparation for racing, including visualization, positive cue words, breathing, and smiling Race-day strategies for handling hills, fueling, and staying mentally engaged late in the race Why menstruation is an important indicator of athlete health Low energy availability, RED-S, sleep, and early warning signs for high school and young female runners Sign up for the Marathon Project! The Marathon Project is a fast, flat race weekend in Chandler, Arizona designed to give amateur runners a pro-style marathon experience, with features like personal bottles, pace groups, indoor warmup space, and a highly supported race environment. Price increases on April 1st, so sign up now at themarathonproject.com and use the code “lindsey” (all lowercase!) for $25 off! Lagoon Sleep — If you’re ready to upgrade your sleep, Lagoon pillows are truly a game changer. Their customizable pillows are designed to help you fall asleep faster, stay cool, and wake up without neck or shoulder pain. You can adjust the fill to make it perfect for you. Save 15% by going to https://lagoonsleep.com/lindsey and using the code LINDSEY at checkout. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another.

Megan Sailor joins the show fresh off a huge breakthrough at CIM, where she placed third in the national championship marathon and ran 2:25:17 in her debut. Megan runs for the B.A.A. High Performance Team and she walks through what it looked like to finally step up to the marathon after spending years focused on the track and shorter road races. Megan shares how pro running was not always the plan, why she considers herself more of a realist than a dreamer, and how the marathon move came at the right time after a stretch where training fitness was not translating to race results. We talk about learning to stop racing workouts, what changed when she began moving up in distance, and how a strong half marathon helped confirm she was heading the right direction. We also get into life outside racing, including the unique dynamic of being a twin and having a built-in training partner, the fact that Megan and her husband live with her twin sister and her husband in Boston, and what they actually do to unwind when they are not training. Megan wraps with a message that sticks: you do not always get to choose the timing or even the event, but patience and trust can lead to the breakthrough you were hoping for. Enjoy this episode with Megan! Topics Discussed: Megan’s 2:25:17 marathon debut and 3rd at CIM (national championship) Joining and training with the B.A.A. High Performance Team Why the track was not clicking, and the shift away from racing workouts Building from half marathon success to marathon readiness Marathon training changes: mileage bump, longer workout volume, solo long runs CIM race strategy, pack decisions, and the late-race leg shutdown Fueling and bottle-grab chaos, plus her gel preferences Boston Marathon build: hills, strength on tired legs, and racing a stacked field Twin sister training dynamic, competitiveness, and support Boston winter stories and “space savers” street parking culture Life outside running: TV binges, baking, books, and future goals (dogs, international racing) Closing takeaway: patience, timing, and letting the right event find you Media Mentioned: Books Throne of Glass (series) Shield of Sparrows Harry Potter (series) Divergent (series) The Hunger Games (series) Twilight (series) ACOTAR TV shows Survivor Grey’s Anatomy Schitt’s Creek Love Is Blind Sponsors: Lagoon Sleep — If you’re ready to upgrade your sleep, Lagoon pillows are truly a game changer. Their customizable pillows are designed to help you fall asleep faster, stay cool, and wake up without neck or shoulder pain. You can adjust the fill to make it perfect for you. Save 15% by going to https://lagoonsleep.com/lindsey and using the code LINDSEY at checkout. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Geist Half Race Series Go to geisthalf.com and use the code “Another26” for $10 off any race distances.

Olivia Markezich joins me on the podcast to talk steeplechase, the jump from college to pro running, and what it’s been like joining the On Athletics Club in Boulder. Olivia runs with OAC out in Boulder and is sponsored by On. Olivia is a steeplechaser, and if you watched the 2024 Olympic Trials, you know exactly why this conversation matters. She took a real shot, put herself into second, and then fell near the finish in one of the most gutting moments of the meet. She was right there, in it, fighting for that team spot, and she opens up about what happened, what it felt like, and how she’s carried that experience forward instead of letting it define her. Olivia’s story has been one surprise after another. She won the 2023 NCAA title in the steeplechase at Notre Dame, earned 10 All-American honors, and finished top three at seven NCAA championships. She also walked on to Notre Dame and eventually earned a full scholarship, which says a lot about how quickly her belief, consistency, and ceiling have grown. This one is honest, gritty, and really fun. Olivia is all-in on seeing how far she can take this sport, and it’s hard not to walk away from this conversation believing she’s got some big breakthroughs ahead. List of topics covered Training update and Achilles management after USA Cross Country Racing muddy cross country conditions and gutting out a tough day Choosing events outside the steeplechase, including a possible 1500 opener Non-championship year mindset and racing the Diamond League circuit 2024 season setbacks: mono, stress reaction, return to racing quickly 2024 Olympic Trials steeplechase fall: what happened and how she processed it Early pro experiences and learning to race on the world stage NIL with On, the pro recruiting process, and why OAC was the fit What she wanted in a pro group: altitude, team environment, structure Notre Dame walk-on story, scholarship, NCAA title, and changing expectations Family dynamic: twin sister rivalry and support, dad as a sounding board Finding steeplechase and winning her first pair of On shoes at Portland Track Festival OAC team culture: meeting six days a week, steeple work with Kelsey, training written by Dathan Building hobbies and community in Boulder: ceramics, cook club, reading, shows Balancing identity outside running and keeping it fun Media mentioned (books + shows) Books: Cutting for Stone (Abraham Verghese) The Covenant of Water (Abraham Verghese) The Housemaid series (Freida McFadden) The Kite Runner (Khaled Hosseini) Sarah J. Maas series mentioned: ACOTAR (A Court of Thorns and Roses) Throne of Glass Crescent City Fourth Wing TV shows: Ted Lasso The Pitt Support our Sponsors: Join me for the 500 Festival Mini Marathon Training! Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Noogs: Noogs Nutrition is my go-to for fun, flavorful fuel with carbs and electrolytes, with flavors like Lemon Zinger, Electric Watermelon, and Blue Raspberry, plus caffeinated options too. Use code “another15” for 15% off your first order.

Today’s episode is a special one. I got to sit down in person with Tristin Colley, formerly known as Tristin Van Ord, for a conversation that felt personal, honest, and really meaningful. Tristin is a professional marathoner, a two-time Olympic Trials Marathon qualifier, and currently pregnant with her first child, a baby girl due this April. She made her marathon debut in 2019 running 2:40 and has steadily worked her way down to a 2:25 personal best, a testament to her patience, belief, and long-term commitment to the sport. In this episode, Tristin and I talk about the many transitions she is navigating right now. From stepping away from the ZAP Endurance program following its recent closure, to moving with her husband Andrew to Raleigh, to entering motherhood while still holding big goals as a professional runner. She shares what this waiting season has looked like, emotionally and practically, as she explores sponsorship opportunities and imagines her return to racing post-baby. We also talk about the USATF Foundation Maternity Grant, which Tristin was awarded, and what it means to feel supported during pregnancy while continuing to identify as a professional athlete with unfinished business. One of the most fun parts of this episode is that Tristin received surprise messages of encouragement from Sara Vaughn, Kara Goucher, and Stephanie Bruce. These moments add so much heart to the conversation and reflect the deep support within the women’s running community. I’m cheering so hard for Tristin, and truly believe that any brand would be lucky to have her on their team. Topics We Cover Tristin’s progression from a 2:40 marathon debut to a 2:25 personal best Training adjustments and mindset shifts during pregnancy Navigating uncertainty after the closure of ZAP Endurance What it means to stay committed to elite running while becoming a parent The USATF Foundation Maternity Grant and why it matters Postpartum racing goals and long-term belief in development The emotional side of waiting seasons in professional sport Community support and encouragement from fellow elite runners Recording in person and how that changes the conversation Support our Sponsors: Geist Half Race Series Go to geisthalf.com and use the code “Another26” for $10 off any race distances. Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout!

We have a brand new show joining the Sandy Boy Productions podcast network, and I am so excited about it! It’s called Out and Back, hosted by professional runners Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson. They train in Flagstaff, they are chasing big goals on the roads, and they bring you straight into the behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. This show is training talk with a few detours, and it is exactly the kind of perspective I love adding to the network. What I love about Rory and Jacob is how curious they are. They are not here for surface level conversations. They want the real details. The stuff you actually want to know if you care about performance, training, racing, and the mental side of showing up when it matters. If you are someone chasing a BQ, an OTQ, or you just want to understand how the pros think about the marathon, you are going to love this podcast. In this intro episode, I sit down with Rory and Jacob to talk about why they started Out and Back, what they want the show to be, and why they think there has been a gap in marathon specific podcasting. We also get into what it looks like to promote yourself as a professional runner, how they balance training with content, and what success looks like for both of them as they head toward Boston. I cannot wait for you to hear more from these two, and I am really proud to welcome Out and Back to the Sandy Boy Productions family. Please take one minute right now, go hit subscribe wherever you listen, and then send this to a friend who loves marathon training talk.

Two time Olympian Elise Cranny returns to the podcast for one of the most natural, easy conversations I have had in a long time. Elise shares why she recently made a major training change, joining M11 Track Club and spending much of the year in South Africa and the UK. We talk about craving training partners again, getting back into a beginner mindset, and why she wants to pay closer attention to the 1500 this season while keeping the 5000 in the bigger picture. Elise reflects on the mental side of championship racing, developing an alter ego on the track, and what she learned during the 2024 Olympic cycle working one on one with coach Jarred Cornfield. We dig into overtraining, identity as an athlete, and how zooming out and setting process based goals helped her find a healthier balance. She also shares what cross training looks like now (swimming three days a week), why breaking two minutes in the 800 still matters to her, and how she thinks about “racing where you are” on the world stage. This is such a fun conversation, enjoy! Topics we cover Returning to the show as a two time Olympian Joining M11 and what pushed her to make a big change Training partners, discomfort, and renewed excitement Shifting focus toward the 1500 and what it can unlock for her racing The 2024 Trials double and why joy mattered in that build Overtraining, burnout, and stepping away from a group environment Confidence, an on track alter ego, and showing up locked in Cross training and swimming as part of her weekly routine Race strategy, mental skills, and setting A/B/C goals Big picture career thinking: no regrets, curiosity, and leaving no stone unturned Life outside sport: working on her MPH at George Washington University Books mentioned Anxious People by Fredrik Backman When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanithi Support Our Sponsors: Noogs: Noogs Nutrition is my go-to for fun, flavorful fuel with carbs and electrolytes, with flavors like Lemon Zinger, Electric Watermelon, and Blue Raspberry, plus caffeinated options too. Use code “another15” for 15% off your first order. Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout!

I’m excited to share this conversation with Drew Hunter. I’ve wanted to have Drew on the show for a long time, and this episode did not disappoint. Drew runs professionally for ASICS and lives in Boulder, Colorado, but his path in the sport has been anything but typical. He went pro straight out of high school, turning down a full scholarship to Oregon, and has now spent nearly a decade navigating the ups and downs of professional running before making a sponsor change to ASICS last year. In this conversation, we talk about what it was really like going pro so young, how different that decision might look today with NIL, and how his perspective has shifted ten years into his career. Drew opens up about setting goals based on what genuinely excites him, why road racing has become such a big focus, and how he’s thinking about longevity in the sport as both an athlete and a dad. We also talk about family life, faith, and the importance of community, especially as he and his wife prepare to welcome their third child. What I appreciated most about this episode is how grounded Drew is in who he is now. He reflects honestly on early loneliness, big expectations, and how his definition of success has changed over time. This conversation goes well beyond race results and gets into what it looks like to build a meaningful life alongside big athletic goals. I really enjoyed this one, and I hope you do too. If you enjoy the episode, please take a moment to leave a rating and review. It’s one of the best ways to help new listeners find the show. Topics Discussed: Drew’s indoor season plans, upcoming 3K, and building toward Millrose How he’s thinking about 2026 goals and the World Road Running Championships in Copenhagen What excites him when he sets goals and why he likes mixing in road racing Why road racing feels like the future of the sport and how it brings fans into it Becoming a dad young, building a family, and how that shifts his mindset around running Community, church, and why having people nearby matters for parenting and life Converting to Catholicism and how he explored faith through reading and learning How he met his wife and how COVID changed the timeline Choosing to go pro out of high school, how NIL changes that decision now, and the realities of pro life Loneliness early in his pro career, moving to Boulder, and building Tin Man Elite and his training setup with his parents Support our Sponsors: Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training. Noogs: Noogs Nutrition is my go-to for fun, flavorful fuel with carbs and electrolytes, with flavors like Lemon Zinger, Electric Watermelon, and Blue Raspberry, plus caffeinated options too. Use code “another15” for 15% off your first order. Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout!

Calli Hauger-Thackery and Sara Hall join Lindsey together after going 1–2 at the Houston Marathon, where they trained side by side leading into race day. Calli ran 2:24:17 for the win, and Sara finished second in 2:26:26 after a build up that was not originally supposed to include the full marathon. They talk through the quick turnaround from their December marathons, what it takes to recover and race again, and how their shared approach to training has made the work more fun and more sustainable. The conversation also gets into the behind-the-scenes of being coached by their husbands, how they collaborate as a four-person team, and what it looks like to balance ambition with longevity, family life, and joy in the process. Sara shares more about her upcoming memoir, For the Love of the Grind, including why she wanted to write it and the lessons she hopes athletes take from it. Topics Discussed: Houston Marathon recap and going 1–2 together Back-to-back marathons and managing the recovery window Sara’s original plan to run the half, and why she finished the full marathon How Calli stayed composed when things got hard early in the race Training partnership: why they are better together and how they compromise Their husbands coaching them and how the dynamic works day to day Strengths they bring to the group: long run strength, speed work, and racing frequency “Loving the grind,” longevity, and Sara’s mindset shift over the years Sara’s book For the Love of the Grind and what readers can expect Flagstaff training life, and why they love it and hate it Support Our Sponsors: Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Previnex — I’ve been using their Muscle Health formula and I love that it combines creatine monohydrate with BCAAs and essential amino acids to support strength, recovery, and muscle maintenance. They just released a new citrus flavor that’s really refreshing, and it’s formulated to improve amino acid absorption and protein synthesis. I also take Previnex Gut & Greens every day and swear by it. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout!

I’m so excited to welcome Laura Thweatt back to the podcast today, and we’ve got a little bonus reunion because my friend Peter Bromka joined us as well. Peter is one of my co-hosts on Relay and Road to the Trials, and when he found out Laura was coming on he asked if he could join which honestly made this conversation even more fun. Laura is someone who has been such a huge part of the running community for years. She ran professionally for over a decade, placed fifth at the 2020 Olympic Trials Marathon, and most recently stepped into a new chapter as a coach with the On Athletics Club, working alongside Dathan Ritzenhein and Kelsey Quinn. In this conversation, Laura walks us through what that transition has really been like, from the excitement of a dream opportunity to the intimidation and learning curve of stepping into a high-performance coaching role. She shares a hilarious story from her very first day on the job that involves borrowed bikes, missed splits, and trying to figure things out on the fly, and we talk honestly about identity, grief, and growth when you close one chapter and open another. Laura also shares what she’s learned working closely with athletes like Joe Klecker, Ryan Ford, and Helen Obiri, including how much happens behind the scenes to support athletes on race day and how coaching has allowed her to experience the highs and lows of the sport in a completely new way. This was one of those conversations that felt like it went by way too fast, and I’m so grateful Laura and Peter joined me for it. Topics discussed: Laura’s transition from professional runner to coach with On Athletics Club How the coaching opportunity came together with Dathan Ritzenhein Feeling intimidated and learning to trust herself in a new role Laura’s chaotic and hilarious first day on the job Building trust and relationships with elite athletes Supporting athletes moving from track to roads and the marathon Managing expectations and pressure in a very public sport Grieving the end of a racing career while embracing a new chapter Experiencing race-day highs and lows as a coach instead of an athlete Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training. Noogs: If you love sour candy and want something that actually works for fueling, Noogs has quickly become one of my favorites. They’re sour energy chews that taste amazing without being overpowering, and they give you the electrolytes and energy you actually want before or during a run. I love popping a couple before a workout, and their caffeinated chews are especially impressive because they don’t have that bitter taste you sometimes get with caffeine. Use code “another15” for 15% off your first order. Rocket Money — If you’ve ever looked at your bank statement and thought, why am I still paying for this, Rocket Money makes it so much easier to clean that up. It helps you find and cancel unwanted subscriptions, keeps an eye on your spending across accounts, and can even help you lower bills so you can grow your savings. I signed up for the premium level recently and it pulled out things I genuinely did not realize I was still paying for. Save yourself the monthly leaks and check it out at rocketmoney.com/gorun.

Four-time Paralympian and seven-time medalist Amanda McGrory joins the podcast for a long-awaited conversation. Amanda competed at the 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2021 Paralympic Games, once held the world record in the 5,000 meters, has raced over 100 marathons, and has won major races including the New York City Marathon, London Marathon, and Grandma’s Marathon, with additional podium finishes in Boston. Now retired from elite competition, Amanda has built an impressive second career as an on-air analyst for major marathons and championships, including coverage of the 2024 Paris Olympic and Paralympic Games. Lindsey and Amanda talk through her journey into wheelchair racing, the Paralympic moments that meant the most to her, and what it’s been like stepping into the media side of the sport and covering races live on camera. Amanda also shares her role as Team USA Archivist and Collection Curator, offering insight into how she’s stayed deeply connected to the sport she helped shape. From early memories of discovering adaptive sports, to racing tactics and strategy, to reinvention after setbacks, this conversation highlights Amanda’s impact as both an athlete and a visible leader in Paralympic sport today. Topics Covered: Discovering wheelchair racing and adaptive sport at a young age Competing in four Paralympic Games (2008–2021) Holding the world record in the 5,000 meters Winning major marathons and racing over 100 total marathons Transitioning from elite athlete to broadcast analyst Covering major marathons, the Olympic Games, and Paralympic Games on live TV Becoming Team USA Archivist and Collection Curator Representation and visibility in Paralympic sport Wheelchair racing tactics, speed, and strategy Track racing vs marathon racing in a wheelchair The emotional highs and lows of Paralympic competition Reinventing training, mindset, and approach after setbacks Knowing when it was time to retire from elite competition Staying active after retirement without training like a professional Growth of Paralympic media coverage and fan engagement The role of technology and equipment in wheelchair racing Equity challenges in access to top-tier racing chairs Balancing social media, storytelling, and personal boundaries Saying yes to opportunities and trusting the process Media Recommendations: Books A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith Harry Potter series TV Shows Taskmaster Loot Severance Shrinking Ted Lasso Support Our Sponsors: Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Rocket Money — If you’ve ever looked at your bank statement and thought, why am I still paying for this, Rocket Money makes it so much easier to clean that up. It helps you find and cancel unwanted subscriptions, keeps an eye on your spending across accounts, and can even help you lower bills so you can grow your savings. I signed up for the premium level recently and it pulled out things I genuinely did not realize I was still paying for. Save yourself the monthly leaks and check it out at rocketmoney.com/gorun. Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off.

Today’s episode is a special one as we officially welcome The Mother Runners to the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network. Whitney Heins, host of the show and founder of themotherrunners.com, joins Lindsey for a relaxed, back-and-forth conversation about running, motherhood, identity, injury, coaching, and building a platform that lifts up moms who run. Whitney shares how motherhood changed her relationship with running, the experience of feeling isolated as a new mom, and how that led her to create an online resource and community specifically for mother runners. She opens up about navigating a long injury cycle and the process of returning to the marathon to run a 2:54 in her 40s. Whitney also talks about what it’s like stepping into her own podcast after co-hosting Miles With Moms, and why storytelling matters so much in this space. This episode is airing on both I’ll Have Another and The Mother Runners, making it the perfect way to kick off this new chapter. About The Mother Runners Podcast: There is truly no shortage of incredible and inspiring mother runners in the world. Every mom has such a good story—no matter how much they run, how fast, how far, or for how long—embedded in all of our journeys are chapters of strength, hope and overcoming that we all need to hear. Because when we hear each other’s stories, not only are we lifting each other up, but we are learning and growing, being inspired, and motivated. That’s why this podcasts features in-depth and fun interviews with fellow moms who run to share their stories—some names you may recognize, and some you will get to know. But all will inspire and entertain you. Thanks for being here! Where to Find Whitney Instagram: @themotherrunnersWebsite: themotherrunners.comPodcast: The Mother Runners (Apple, Spotify, all major platforms) Support Our Sponsors: Foot Levelers — Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Lindsey Hein Coaching & Training Plans I’ve been coaching runners since 2013 and currently have space for a few one-on-one athletes. If you’re training for your first half or marathon, chasing a PR, or aiming to qualify for Boston, I take a holistic, week-by-week approach to coaching. I also offer half marathon and marathon training plans for beginner through advanced runners, designed with conservative mileage progression and simple strength and mobility work. Visit https://lindseyhein.com and use the code DECEMBER2025 to get $10 off training plans through the end of the year. If you’re interested in one-on-one coaching, email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com.

Today on the show, Sinclaire Johnson is back, and she just had herself a day at the Merrie Mile in Honolulu. She won the race, ran a 4:21 road mile, and set a new American record. This is not new territory for her either. She has set American records before, made the World Champs team this past year, and after a few tough years battling major bone injuries, she’s finally feeling strong, healthy, and ready to keep building. We talk about racing a road mile without clocks or splits, being coached by her fiance Craig, what she learned from finishing fourth at the Olympic Trials in 3:56, how cross training has helped keep her healthy, and what she is targeting in 2026 with a full indoor season and an outdoor year that looks a little different. What we talked about: Sinclaire’s Merrie Mile win in Honolulu and the 4:21 American record Racing with no clocks, no splits, and a pacer plan that changed in real time Why this fall felt different and why she feels stronger than ever right now Being coached by her fiance Craig and what changed in her training and communication The mental side of returning from repeated bone injuries and reframing fear Feeling unheard in past training groups and why athlete coach communication matters Advice for young pros choosing a coach, team, and a life outside running Olympic Trials 2024, running 3:56 for fourth, and what she learned from it World Champs season takeaways and learning to adjust without blame Cross training as a core strategy and how she structures volume off her legs Indoor season plans and what she is excited to chase next How world rankings work and what the new “Ultimate Championships” format looks like Favorite event order: track 1500, road mile, track mile Life outside running: bread baking, what she is reading, and what she is watching Last message: being your biggest advocate and trusting your intuition Media mentioned Book: The Remarkable Life of Irawati Karve Show: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Music artist group: RÜFÜS DU SOL Support our Sponsors: CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Lagoon Sleep — If you’re ready to upgrade your sleep, Lagoon pillows are truly a game changer. Their customizable pillows are designed to help you fall asleep faster, stay cool, and wake up without neck or shoulder pain. You can adjust the fill to make it perfect for you. Save 15% by going to https://lagoonsleep.com/lindsey and using the code LINDSEY at checkout. Rocket Money — If you’ve ever looked at your bank statement and thought, why am I still paying for this, Rocket Money makes it so much easier to clean that up. It helps you find and cancel unwanted subscriptions, keeps an eye on your spending across accounts, and can even help you lower bills so you can grow your savings. I signed up for the premium level recently and it pulled out things I genuinely did not realize I was still paying for. Save yourself the monthly leaks and check it out at rocketmoney.com/gorun.

We’re closing out our 10-part Wellness Series with a conversation that couldn’t feel more fitting. Today’s guest is my friend Brad Stulberg, who returns to the podcast to talk about his new book, The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness and Deep Satisfaction in a Chaotic World. I read this book over the past couple of months and finished it on the plane heading to a busy week of interviews at the running event, and I genuinely felt more grounded and prepared because of it. Brad has been on the show many times, and I always leave our conversations with tangible takeaways for how to live and lead better. He’s the author of The Practice of Groundedness, Master of Change, Peak Performance, and The Passion Paradox, and he brings such a thoughtful, practical lens to ambition, growth, and fulfillment. In this episode, we talk about caring deeply, the inevitability of failure, and why caring, even when it opens us up to heartbreak, is still worth it. We also touch on goal setting as we head into a new year and how to think about excellence in a way that’s sustainable and meaningful. I hope you love this conversation as much as I did and that it leaves you feeling encouraged as we wrap up this series. Check out Brad’s work and pre order his newest book at BradStulberg.com What we talked about: December as a natural season for reflection, and the tension of “ramping down” while launching something big The Way of Excellence and how excellence can be a mindset you practice, not just an outcome you achieve “Brave New World” as a fear-to-curiosity reframe for big moments (races, interviews, parenting, hard lifts) Curiosity vs fear, and why curiosity helps you perform better (and feel better) under pressure Caring deeply as the cost of stepping into the arena, and why “too cool to care” is actually insecurity Excellence as heartfelt (not robotic) and a critique of “pseudo excellence” culture and optimization obsession Cold plunges and “hacks”: what’s legit, what’s hype, and when hard things are useful vs unnecessary Identity and the “house with rooms” metaphor (runner, parent, creative, partner) so one setback doesn’t collapse your whole sense of self Reading vs short-form video for attention, cognition, and emotional health, plus habits that support focus New Year goals: why resolutions fail, and how values-based goal setting helps you climb the right mountain Sponsors: Eternal This entire Wellness Series has been made possible by Eternal, a science-backed preventative health company for people who take their health and training seriously. Eternal offers comprehensive, integrated primary care, advanced testing, and personalized health planning. They go beyond biomarkers to provide real answers, proactive care, and support for athletes and active humans alike. Learn more and become a member at https://eternal.co. Lagoon Sleep If you’re ready to upgrade your sleep, Lagoon pillows are truly a game changer. Their customizable pillows are designed to help you fall asleep faster, stay cool, and wake up without neck or shoulder pain. You can adjust the fill to make it perfect for you. Save 15% by going to https://lagoonsleep.com/lindsey and using the code LINDSEY at checkout. Lindsey Hein Coaching & Training Plans I’ve been coaching runners since 2013 and currently have space for a few one-on-one athletes. If you’re training for your first half or marathon, chasing a PR, or aiming to qualify for Boston, I take a holistic, week-by-week approach to coaching. I also offer half marathon and marathon training plans for beginner through advanced runners, designed with conservative mileage progression and simple strength and mobility work. Visit https://lindseyhein.com and use the code DECEMBER2025 to get $10 off training plans through the end of the year. If you’re interested in one-on-one coaching, email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com. Brad’s new book, The Way of Excellence, is linked here. Thanks so much for being here and for supporting the Wellness Series.

I cannot tell you how special this episode feels to me. Laura Galeazzo — who longtime listeners will remember as the very first guest I ever interviewed back in 2016 — is back on the show, and catching up with her brought everything full circle. When I launched this podcast, I was a young mom with two little kids, newly pregnant with my third, dreaming about building something of my own. Laura said yes to being my very first interview when all I had was a microphone, a simple idea, and a whole lot of belief. Since then, she’s lived so much life: she’s had two babies, become a real estate agent, coached athletes, and continued to chase big goals with the same quiet determination that made her story so compelling in the first place. She’s now a 2:49 marathoner and recently ran a huge half marathon PR, breaking through years of self-doubt to rediscover her confidence. I’ve watched her navigate seasons of grit, seasons without PRs, and seasons where she just kept showing up for herself — and seeing her run her strongest races yet is incredibly inspiring. It feels so right to have her back on the show all these years later, still getting after it and still reminding us what’s possible when you keep going. Support our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and enjoy their Black Friday sale (early access now!) to enjoy: $25 off every pillow, $60 off two pillows, $160 off four pillows (so $40 off each), 50% off pillowcases with the purchase of a pillow

For this episode in our wellness series, I’m joined by sports dietitian and marathoner Meghann Featherstun of Featherstone Nutrition. I had just gotten home from a whirlwind week at The Running Event and CIM, where I hosted conversations with Gabby Thomas (sponsored by Amazfit) and a Road to the Trials panel, and I was excited to sit down for a fresh, in-depth chat with Meghann. We debrief her time at TRE, where there were over 50 nutrition brands on display, and dig into what’s actually new and useful in sports fueling right now. We talk about higher-carb products, evolving electrolyte and caffeine trends, and how to think about choosing between all the options on the market. From there, we dive into some big wellness topics like nicotine pouches, GLP-1 medications, midlife weight changes, and the pressure runners feel around body image. Meghann shares both her clinical and personal perspective on when these tools can be life-changing for health and when they become a vanity shortcut. We also cover how to talk about food and bodies with our kids, and then wrap up with practical advice for recovering from a fall marathon, including fueling in the days after your race, adjusting nutrition when mileage drops, and what to make of “fiber maxing.” Enjoy my conversation with Meghann! Support Our Sponsors: Eternal: Go to eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Noogs: Use code “another15” for 15% off your first order. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com.

In this episode, I sat down with Olympic gold medalist Gabby Thomas while I was in San Antonio for The Running Event, and it was such a fun, inspiring conversation. Gabby had an incredible 2024 season where she won gold in the 200 meters in Paris and was part of the gold medal 4×100 and 4×400 teams. She runs for New Balance, studied neurobiology at Harvard, and went on to earn her master’s in public health, so we talk about how her academic background shapes the way she thinks about performance, health, and life beyond the track. We get into what it actually felt like to win that individual gold, how she handled the pressure of the Olympic Games, what she’s learning in this phase of her career, and what she’s dreaming about as she looks toward LA 2028. We also chat about her partnership with Amazfit, how she uses their watch in training and racing, and why this season has been so meaningful to her both on and off the track. Support Our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com.

Today I am talking with two-time Olympian and Saucony athlete Molly Huddle, who just ran the Every Woman’s Marathon six months postpartum with her second baby. Molly used the race as a long training run and shares what it felt like to approach the marathon in a more relaxed, flexible way than she has in the past while still respecting how hard 26.2 miles feels at any pace. We get into how life looks right now with two young daughters, how she and her husband are tag-teaming work and parenting, and what it has been like to train and race while breastfeeding. Molly explains why she chose this marathon as a fundraising opportunity for For All Mothers+, how she approached the effort on the day, and what she learned about her current fitness and recovery. Molly also talks about where she is with professional running at age 41, her hope to qualify for another Olympic Marathon Trials, and what it means to her to compete in a “part-time” or “semi-retired” way while she leans into coaching, writing, and parenting. We talk about identity shifts in motherhood, the invisible work that goes into raising kids, and how to stay engaged with the sport even when the goals and timelines look different than they did in your twenties. Finally, Molly shares more about the new pregnancy and postpartum running book she is co-writing, the research she is excited about, and her thoughts on aging, body image, and what it really means to let running “light you up,” whatever season of life you are in. Topics Discussed: Molly’s decision to run the Every Woman’s Marathon six months postpartum Using a marathon as a long training run instead of an all-out effort Balancing breastfeeding, travel, and race-day logistics with a baby and a toddler Fundraising and partnering with For All Mothers+ at the race How the Every Woman’s Marathon creates an unintimidating, women-centered race experience Postpartum training, injury history, and choosing a more cautious path back Shifting identity from full-time pro runner to part-time competitor, coach, and writer Motherhood, invisible labor, and how priorities around work and running change Body image, aging, and pressure around appearance and performance The new pregnancy and postpartum running book and current women’s health research Support Our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Tailwind Nutrition — Complete energy, electrolytes, hydration; light taste, easy on the gut. Their recovery mix has 20g protein and the single-serve sticks make refueling simple. Code: another20 at tailwindnutrition.com for 20% off. Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off.

Today’s episode comes to you from my time at the Allianz Richmond Marathon weekend. This was my third year serving as race emcee in Richmond, and once again I left feeling deeply moved by the stories, resilience, and joy I witnessed at the finish line. I watched first-time marathoners cross with disbelief in their eyes, couples holding hands as they finished together, runners pushing through pain, and others celebrating huge personal victories. There is a kind of gratitude at the end of a marathon that you just cannot replicate anywhere else, and Richmond always reminds me why I love this experience so much. Today’s conversation is a special live recording from that weekend, where I sat down with Sophie King and Trevor Spencer. Trevor is one of the co-hosts of the Marathon Training Academy podcast, and Sophie King is a professional runner based in Richmond with an incredibly compelling story. Sophie made her marathon debut right here in Richmond in 2021 and later ran a 2:34 at CIM in 2023. She was on track for big things before suffering a torn plantar fascia that ultimately kept her from competing at the Olympic Trials, but what struck me most about this conversation is her perspective, her honesty, and her belief that her best years are still ahead of her. Sophie comes from a swimming background and only transitioned fully to running in recent years, which makes her rise in the sport even more impressive. She speaks openly about setbacks, rebuilding confidence after injury, learning to trust her body again, and continuing to chase big goals despite the detours. There is a calm strength to the way she talks about her journey, and I loved hearing her articulate not only her ambitions but her deep gratitude for the process as well. This was one of those conversations that felt too meaningful not to share publicly. Her story, her mindset, and her vulnerability deserve to be heard, and I’m so excited for you to listen. Support our Sponsors: Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and enjoy their Black Friday sale (early access now!) to enjoy: $25 off every pillow, $60 off two pillows, $160 off four pillows (so $40 off each), 50% off pillowcases with the purchase of a pillow Aletheia Run lets you see what your body is actually doing with every step by using a lightweight sensor that creates a unique force portrait of your movement. It gives personalized feedback, targeted drills, and science-backed insights to improve performance and help prevent injuries, bringing the running lab right to your everyday training. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another.

Hey friends, welcome to I’ll Have Another with Lindsey Hein. If you ran the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon, Half Marathon, or 5K this past weekend, congratulations. It was incredible to see so many familiar faces out there, and it was an honor to be the race emcee again this year. Between the energy at the start and the emotion at the finish line, this race really showed up — including a huge three-minute drop in the men’s marathon course record and a long list of Olympic Trials qualifiers. I wanted to break it all down with two people who experienced the weekend right alongside me. My friend Ally Brettnacher is here — she’s the host of Finish Lines & Milestones, part of the Sandyboy Productions network, and she always brings such a fun perspective from the everyday runner community. Emily Infeld also joins us. She was the guest of honor at Monumental this year — she helped start the race, she handed out medals at the finish line, she sat down for an interview at the expo, and she joined me for our live podcast at the post-race celebration. Emily barely needs an introduction, but here’s a quick one: she’s an Olympian, a US national champion, a five-time track world finalist, and she won the 10,000m national title this summer after ten years filled with surgeries, setbacks, comebacks, and breakthroughs. She’s sponsored by Brooks Running. Brooks partnered with us through Athletic Annex for the weekend, which was really special since Emily is a Brooks athlete. My relationship with Athletic Annex goes back more than a decade — I helped them with social media and events long before I started hosting live podcasts, and they’ve supported every single event I’ve brought to Indianapolis since. Every time I’m back home for a shakeout run, a live show, or anything related to the Monumental, they’re right there with me. This year we hosted our biggest post-race party yet, and I’ll be honest — I was nervous nobody would buy tickets. I wanted it to be an elevated event, with great food, drinks, a killer goodie bag, and a chance for everyone to actually celebrate their race. We ended up selling out and even added extra tickets at the door. One of the biggest hits was the Indy poster Ally designed — inspired by iconic race posters at major marathons — where everyone could stencil in their finishing time. It was so fun watching people make their own little Monumental keepsake. Our vision is to make this weekend feel a little more like the big-city marathon experience: a Friday shakeout run, community events, and a post-race celebration every year moving forward. One thing I’m especially proud of is that we were able to donate $500 from the event back to the Monumental Kids Movement — a school-based running and wellness program. Beyond Monumental does such meaningful work with kids year after year, and I’m glad we could give back to that mission. Huge thanks to everyone who came to the race, the expo, the live show, and the party — it meant so much. If you enjoyed this episode or were part of the weekend, a quick rating and review goes a long way. And if you’re already planning on Monumental 2026 — and I know some of you type-A runners are — make sure you’re in town for the Friday shakeout and the post-race party. We’re already excited for next year. Sponsors of the live show: Athletic AnnexBrooks RunningFoot LevelersPrevinexBottleworks HotelRachel Michelle RunningStretchLabTwentySixDiamond NoogsAthlete Bouquets (owned by Ally Brettnacher)

Today I’m joined by Annie Frisbie, who just finished fifth at the 2025 New York City Marathon in 2:24:12 — the second-fastest American performance ever on that course. Annie has quickly become one of the most consistent and exciting marathoners in the U.S., and what I love most about her story is how steady, grounded, and quietly fierce she is. She debuted in New York back in 2021 running 2:26:18 — the fourth-fastest debut by an American woman on that course — and since then she’s continued to chip away, stacking strong, confident races while training with Minnesota Distance Elite. Annie grew up in Wisconsin, ran at Iowa State where she was an All-American in cross country, and now runs professionally for Puma. In this conversation, we break down her NYC race from the inside, including the moments she almost lost confidence, how she’s learning to trust positive self-talk, and what she’s excited about for 2026 and beyond. Annie is thoughtful, humble, and incredibly fun to root for — you’re going to feel so inspired hearing about her process, her mindset, and the way she’s growing into this event. I loved catching up with her so much. Topics we cover NYC race plan, surges, and key course sections Passing Sifan Hassan late and protecting position Solo miles, crowd energy, and managing pain honestly Fueling: UCAN gels (alternating caffeine) and electrolytes Training consistency, hamstring care, and support team Mindset: visualization, mantras, and choosing helpful thoughts Tactical Majors vs time trial courses Post-race recovery, winter training, and 2026 goals Media and links mentioned Book: Let Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor Music: Hans Zimmer; Ramin Djawadi soundtracks; Florence and the Machine (new album) Podcasts: Amy Poehler’s show; The Telepathy Tapes Team/Sponsor: Minnesota Distance Elite; Puma Support Our Sponsors: Amazfit Smartwatches – A wellness and recovery brand offering targeted supplements designed to support runners with energy, strength, and sleep. Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout! Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and gummies for a relaxed unwind without alcohol. Flavors like Blueberry Breeze, Raspberry Limeade, Salted Watermelon, and Peach Iced Tea. cornbreadhemp.com/another and use code: ANOTHER for 30% off. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and enjoy their Black Friday sale (early access now!) to enjoy: $25 off every pillow, $60 off two pillows, $160 off four pillows (so $40 off each), 50% off pillowcases with the purchase of a pillow