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In The Bin: The Rhetoric, Argumentation, and Debate Podcast

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The Number One or Two podcast worldwide on the art of debate, argumentation, and rhetoric. Lively, ridiculous, and intelligent conversation on matters of oratory, debate, argumentation, and rhetoric.

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Welcome Summer! Alan and Steve talk about the Presidential debates - are they valuable? Steve talks about student evidence use - how can we teach this better? Give us feedback here or email us at inthebinpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode, Steve and mischa discuss a variety of debate formats including NDT, CEDA, NFA LD, IPDA, and WUDC. What are debate formats meant to be? Are they meant to teach? What are some alternative formats that might be better?
On this In the Bin: Why do organizations create such bad debate models? Are the Presidential Debates going to happen in 2024? How do we define debate? And much more! The Bin Panel for this round is: Mischa! Dr. Joe Packer Director of Debate at Central Michigan University Alan Smith from alanwsmith.com Bentley Davis from bentleydavis.com Timothy High, co-founder of Canonical Debate Lab Dewey, "Rhetoric's Everyman"
Join Steve, Tim and Bentley from Canonical Debate Labs in a discussion about debate that involves: 1. Why does the National Communication Association hate debate? 2. Why is r/debate on Reddit so terrible? 3. What is the cool new project Bentley is working on to help us understand public controversies? As always your comments are welcome!
In this episode, Steve talks to Dr. Louden, Professor Emeritus of Communication at Wake Forest University about the past, present, and future of NDT and CEDA debate. Dr. Louden was Director of Debate at Wake Forest for 30 years and offers some incredible insights on debate history as well as contemporary trends in debating in the United States.
ITB is back, and in this episode, we discuss IPDA, high school parli, NPDA, and some of the educational slack and lack in intercollegiate and high school tournament debate. Why does intercollegiate or tournament debate always wind up at the same place?
A conversation with Matt Stannard, founder of the Wyoming Debate Cooperative and legendary coach of CEDA/NDT, NPDA, and NTPE champs. We cover everything from building a collective to Bertolt Brecht in this fantastic conversation. Do online debates have a future? What's the biggest issue when founding a collective? What's the biggest change debate's seen in the past 10 years? Listen and find out!
The Double Steve Experience is back! Dr. Steve Llano (Associate Professor of Rhetoric, St. John's University) and Steve Johnson (Director of Debate, University of Alaska) discuss experiences in adapting debate for the sudden shutdown of spring activities in 2020. They discuss assessment and designing debate for the future, predicting what debate events will look like in the fall of 2020.
Dr. Steve Llano (Associate Professor of Rhetoric, St. John's University) and Steve Johnson (Director of Debate, University of Alaska) discuss the revalations about debate and debate's future that the quarantine has revealed.
The Bin Is Back

The Bin Is Back

2020-04-2501:06

Trailer for the New and Not Improved In the Bin Podcast. For more information: sophist.nyc/inthebin
In the rhetoric, debate, and argumentation community, we are very happy to have the ALTA conference back.But where does it go from here? Let's look at the central issues and importance of ALTA in this episode.
In this episode we will take a look at the NSDA national tournament through the CBS Morning Show story about it and the tragic and traumatic incident that happened during the national final round. Both are deeply rhetorical; both are part of the larger force operating speech & debate which is, of course, discourse itself. Comments welcome!
In this week's episode we look at the Alta Argumentation conference schedule, the recent Argumentation Network of the America's call for papers on debate, and a recent publication about a CEDA final round from 2016.All three are fascinating but are made more so by thinking about them through the terms of the four discourses, a theory of human meaning making offered by Jacques Lacan.
What makes a good debate motion? Why are motions so weird these days? In this episode I argue that the motions aren't the issue, it's our view of debate, and perhaps a writer from 1947 can help explain why.Comments Welcome!
WUDC Has Failed Us All

WUDC Has Failed Us All

2025-06-0401:00:05

The British Parliamentary format (BP/WUDC) was brilliant for focusing on what matters most in practicing debate - a focus on the audience.In this episode I focus on what happens to debate formats, why they are all destined to fail, and what BP format abandoned. Also in this episode:SJU Debate Reunion in Boston?Kenneth Burke shouts out In the Bin?Steve attempts to offer his total definition of rhetoricAND MOREHave a listen!Comments Welcome!
I compare the College Debates and Discourse Alliance with the recent Qatar Debate and Dialogue Conference to show that attempts to improve argumentation and debate by removing human traits from the model is only going to fail debate and harm democracy.
Instead of saying debate and argument are failures of human communication, how about just trying to teach people how to debate well?In this episode I take on the traitorous email I got from C-SPAN and critique the mission and perspective of Braver Angels. These are two examples of the trend of excommunicating debate from human communication instead of addressing the need for better and increased debate education.
Reflecting on my trip last weekend to Rochester NY to honor a friend and mentor in life and debate, I thought about the role of the debate coach. I've disliked the term - here's an argument why we should move away from it toward the model of the educator.
Debate Format: What is it? What could it be?We think we are learning debate; we are learning a format. The implications are disastrous. Comments welcome!
This is really a collection of ideas at the end of the term, but listen to see why the loss of ERIC is a loss to debate, what we can do about whack judge policies, how NCA plans to support communication graduate students on an F-1 visa, and more as we wind down the spring semester!
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