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In this special archival episode, we revisit a largely forgotten but highly significant moment in modern UFO history.In November 2007, international military, aviation, scientific, and government officials gathered at the National Press Club in Washington DC to publicly discuss their UFO encounters and official investigations, a full decade before the subject re-entered the mainstream conversation in 2017.Participants included senior figures from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Iran, Peru, and Chile, many of whom described incidents involving radar tracking, military interception, physical effects, and objects exhibiting performance beyond known technology.This episode is compiled from the original 2007 event recordings and is published with the explicit permission of filmmaker James Fox. Advertising on this episode supports the continued production and archiving of historical UFO material.The release of this archival event comes ahead of the upcoming National Press Club UAP press conference taking place in Washington DC on January 20th, where new witnesses and experts are expected to address the issue. A link to that event is included in the show notes.This episode is presented for historical and educational purposes and provides essential context for understanding how today’s UFO discussion was shaped long before the current disclosure era.Check out the 20th January event here - https://www.youtube.com/@NationalPressClubLive/streams🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
In this episode, I’m joined once again by Avi Loeb, Harvard astrophysicist, head of the Galileo Project, and author of Extraterrestrial and Interstellar.We dive deep into 3I/ATLAS, the third known interstellar object ever detected, and why it has sparked intense scientific interest and public debate. Avi explains the unusual features of this object, including its anti-tail, orbital alignment, and chemical signatures, and why these anomalies deserve serious scrutiny.We also discuss the CIA’s “neither confirm nor deny” response to records about 3I/ATLAS, the idea of black swan events, criticism of narrow SETI searches, and why institutional risk-aversion may be holding science back.This conversation explores interstellar visitors, scientific curiosity, stigma, and what discovering extraterrestrial technology would mean for humanity’s future.Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8https://avi-loeb.medium.com/🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
At the start of 2026, the UFO disclosure conversation appears more fractured than ever. Andy is joined by journalist and Psicoactivo podcast host Pavel to break down David Grusch’s recent comments on The Age of Disclosure, his criticism of senior intelligence figures, and the growing divide within the disclosure movement itself. From insider testimony and documentary narratives to experiencers, biologics, and public readiness, this episode explores where disclosure stands and where it may be heading next.Check out Pavel's work - https://allmylinks.com/pavelanchePatreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
In Part 2, the conversation moves from history into consequences.Andy and Ryan examine how UFO skepticism evolved from scientific caution into something far more strategic. They explore radar interference theories, early claims of recovered craft, and whether figures like Donald Menzel knowingly participated in long-term counterintelligence efforts.The discussion expands into modern UFO debates, including skepticism versus debunking, the treatment of eyewitness testimony, belief systems, and why the burden of proof in UFO research remains uniquely high.This episode asks a difficult question: if skepticism was shaped by intelligence needs decades ago, are we still arguing inside rules that were set long before we knew they existed?Check out Ryan's work - https://unquestionably.substack.com/Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
In this breaking news update, Andy covers a series of major developments shaping the UFO and UAP conversation as 2026 begins.The episode opens with the surprise appearance of a new book listing from Luis Elizondo. Titled Reckoning: The Unspoken Truth about UFOs and the Urgency of Now, the book has quietly appeared on publisher and retail sites with an expected 2026 release. Andy reads and analyses the full publisher blurb, discusses timing, positioning, and why this release matters coming from a former Pentagon insider.Attention then turns to David Grusch and his recent high-profile interview on The Megyn Kelly Show. Andy breaks down Grusch’s comments on crash retrievals, legacy programs, misinformation campaigns, deep-state dynamics, and why Grusch appearing publicly now may be significant.The episode also covers:Congressional frustration over denied oversightClaims involving former intelligence leadershipOnline tensions within the disclosure communityThe CIA’s “neither confirm nor deny” response regarding the interstellar object ‘Oumuamua / AtlasReactions from Avi Loeb, ahead of Andy’s upcoming interview with himReflections on Chris Bledsoe’s appearance on American AlchemyUpdates on potential upcoming press events and documentariesA wide-ranging but grounded look at what’s happening, why it matters, and what may come next.Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
You can order my book here - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOsUFO skepticism didn’t begin with social media or YouTube debunkers.In Part 1 of this conversation, Andy is joined by researcher and writer Ryan Purkey to explore the early life and career of Donald H. Menzel, a Harvard astronomer, naval intelligence officer, and one of the most influential figures in shaping how UFOs would be publicly dismissed.This episode traces Menzel’s rise through academia, his World War II work in cryptography and radar, and how those skills placed him at the heart of Cold War intelligence at the exact moment UFOs entered the public consciousness.From early crash recovery timelines to the foundations of organised skepticism, Part 1 sets the historical groundwork for understanding why the UFO topic looks the way it does today.Check out Ryan's work - https://unquestionably.substack.com/Patreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
Order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOsIn this special Ask Me Anything episode, Andy kicks off 2026 by answering listener questions from across the UFO community and reflecting on where the phenomenon stands after a turbulent 2025.Topics include disclosure fatigue, whistleblowers, underwater UFOs, public readiness, media responsibility, AI, citizen disclosure, and whether governments still control the narrative. Andy also looks ahead to what could genuinely move the needle in 2026, including upcoming hearings, whistleblower claims, major documentaries, and shifting public attitudes.This episode explores belief, skepticism, frustration, curiosity, and the uncomfortable reality that disclosure may not look the way anyone expects.Stay tuned for bonus content if you're a paid memberPatreon offer - https://www.patreon.com/thatufopodcast?coupon=4B0B8🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast📲 Connect with the show:Twitter: @UFOUAPAMFacebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO PodcastYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastEmail: UFOUAPAM@gmail.comAll links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapamOfficial Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review, it really helps!Thanks for listening,Andy
Documentary filmmaker James Fox returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss new revelations surrounding Moment of Contact and the Varginha UFO case. From alleged crash retrievals and live beings to missing videos and military involvement, James explains why this case may be the most important of them all.
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In this special end-of-year review, Andy is joined by Dan from What It Means to Be Human to look back at the biggest UFO and UAP stories of 2025 and ask what, if anything, actually moved the conversation forward.
They discuss Skywatcher and its unfulfilled promises, the year of the whistleblower with figures like Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, congressional hearings and why they may be losing impact, and the growing divide between entertainment and evidence in the UFO space.
The conversation also covers the scientific work on transient objects in historic astronomical data, the release of The Age of Disclosure documentary, Hollywood’s influence on the topic, and why many in the community feel stuck in a holding pattern.
Finally, Andy and Dan look ahead to 2026 with predictions on legislation, underwater UAPs, future hearings, and whether disclosure as people imagine it is ever really coming.
This is part one of the 2025 review, with listener questions and additional discussion coming in a follow-up episode.
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In this bonus review episode, Andy steps slightly outside the usual UFO comfort zone to review the documentary American Sasquatch: Man, Myth or Monster?, a film that explores the Bigfoot phenomenon through eyewitness testimony, physical evidence, DNA claims, and high strangeness theories.
Produced by Lab Nine Films and featuring familiar names from the wider UFO and paranormal world, the documentary raises questions that will sound very familiar to UAP researchers.
Is Sasquatch a flesh and blood creature?
A misidentified relic of human ancestry?
Or something far stranger, possibly connected to portals, consciousness, and UFO activity?
Andy breaks down the documentary’s structure, pacing, credibility, and claims, comparing its approach to how UFO evidence is often presented. Topics include:
The Patterson Gimlin footage and later visual evidence
Eyewitness encounters and recurring sensory details
Footprints, DNA analysis, and contamination debates
Portal and interdimensional theories
Skinwalker Ranch, NIDS, and paranormal overlap
Why Bigfoot and UFO sightings so often appear together
The episode also features extensive listener feedback, with thoughts ranging from firm belief to outright skepticism, and everything in between.
Is American Sasquatch convincing?
Does it go too far?
Or does it mirror the same unresolved questions we face in UFO research?
🎧 Available now as a bonus episode
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A UFO news update covering Spielberg’s Disclosure Day, Skywatcher, congressional comments, Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, and key developments shaping the conversation heading into 2026.
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Engineering technologists Chad Wanless and Dave Palachik join Andy to discuss UAP observables, warp-drive physics, experiencer perspectives, and why the evidence may have been hidden in plain sight.
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Science journalist Becky Ferreira joins Andy to discuss aliens, UAP, disclosure, and humanity’s obsession with life beyond Earth. From government secrecy to scientific skepticism, this episode explores what we really know — and what we don’t.
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The trailer for Steven Spielberg’s long-awaited UFO movie has finally dropped and it’s officially titled Disclosure Day.
In this breaking news episode, Andy walks through the teaser trailer shot by shot, looking at the symbolism, themes, and heavy UFO lore running throughout. Religious imagery, animal symbolism, global broadcasts, altered voices, and the idea of full worldwide disclosure all feature heavily.
The episode also covers new comments from members of Congress on UAPs following the latest Weaponized interview, including pushback from agencies, the need for subpoena power, and questions about whether disclosure can ever happen through official channels.
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Former US Air Force security officer and congressional UAP hearing witness Jeff Nuccetelli returns to That UFO Podcast for a wide-ranging and deeply candid conversation.
Jeff revisits the UFO incursions at Vandenberg Air Force Base, explains what it was like to testify before Congress, and details the intimidation and surveillance tactics faced by witnesses both before and after the hearings. He also discusses why whistleblower protections are still failing, how national security is used to shield secrecy, and what’s really happening behind closed doors as lawmakers attempt to navigate classified systems.
The conversation explores:
What the public didn’t see after the UAP hearings ended
Why reputation destruction is often used instead of outright silencing
The New Jersey drone/UAP flap and why many sightings remain unresolved
The growing cultural impact of The Age of Disclosure documentary
Steven Spielberg’s return to UFOs and why art may lead disclosure
Why reality itself may be far stranger than “ET vs human tech” debates
Jeff also offers three bold predictions for 2026, including future hearings, new witnesses coming forward, and major shake-ups within the UFO community.
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December is proving to be one of the busiest months of the year for UFO and UAP news.
In this mid-December news update, Andy breaks down a revealing interview with Luis Elizondo, including details of a memo sent to President Trump warning that the United States is falling behind on emerging all-domain technologies from advanced drones to genuinely anomalous UAP. The proposal of a potential “UAP Czar”, government transparency failures, and growing national security concerns are all on the table.
The episode also covers:
Escalating drone incursions across the US and Europe, including sensitive military and nuclear sites
Why UAP and drones are now being discussed under the same umbrella
The cultural and political risks surrounding disclosure
New advisory appointments at the UAP Disclosure Foundation
Steven Spielberg’s return to UFOs with a mysterious new 2026 film
Updates on upcoming documentaries, interviews, and global disclosure events
Plus, Andy shares personal updates, upcoming interviews with key whistleblowers, and details on an end-of-year Ask Me Anything.
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The Tedesco brothers return with their most revealing Nightcrawler data yet. From advanced drone-like objects appearing across the East Coast to large luminous orbs shifting between visible, infrared and ultraviolet spectra, John and Gerald break down what their multi-sensor systems actually captured and why some of it defies prosaic explanation.
They discuss why their research focus is shifting from UAPs to USOs, the recurring water connection, and several cases where objects appeared to respond to being observed. The brothers also detail a black triangle emerging from a cloud system, complete with radar tracks, RF disturbances and electromagnetic anomalies.
With newly secured multi-year funding, Nightcrawler is expanding into deep-water surveys, hyperspectral detection and a full Phase 3 investigative programme. Plus, updates on their upcoming documentaries and what they expect to uncover next.
A rare, data-driven look at phenomena unfolding both above and now beneath the surface.
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In this bonus episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy shares an exclusive preview from his new book, Atlas of Unidentified Flying Objects.
This instalment focuses on one of the most astonishing alleged crash retrieval events in UFO history the 1996 Varginha, Brazil incident, often called Brazil’s Roswell.
Andy reads a section from the Crash Retrievals chapter, offering background on the sighting, the witnesses, the entity encounter, and the mysterious death of a police officer. You’ll also hear a special archived interview clip with filmmaker James Fox, director of the acclaimed documentary Moment of Contact, discussing his investigative journey into the case.
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Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, Steven Bassett, returns to break down the rapidly shifting disclosure landscape. We cover the Age of Disclosure documentary, Hollywood’s newfound engagement with the topic, and why Bassett believes the political resistance to disclosure is collapsing.
Steven dives into drone flaps, orb sightings, the 1952 Washington flyover, nuclear shutdown events, and the increasing pressure on the White House as figures like Dan Farah, Joe Rogan, Christopher Mellon, and Marco Rubio elevate the conversation. We also explore why Bassett thinks a single head of state could trigger capital-D Disclosure at any moment — and why the Air Force may have the most to answer for.
Fast-paced, fiery, and packed with insight, this episode looks at whether 2025 is the year the truth embargo finally falls, and what a post-disclosure world might actually look like.
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With the Age of Disclosure hitting the mainstream & highlighting the UFO topic to a new audience, I thought this would be a great opportunity to re-introduce some of the whistleblowers i've spoken to over the last 15 months. They talk through the incredible video's they've seen, the disagreements they have about what they are looking at & Jason Sands goes into his own incredible experience face to face, with a Non-Human entity.
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In which the host will say "folks" every single minute.
I live in the back arse of Ireland and what I've experienced ain't no US tech. Ross is a funnel for BS like most "jurnos" 😔
Thanks Andy for all the great work, always delighted to see a new episode.
BS
So glad to hear Dan again! you guys are the best.
love the podcast but I find the sound of it very low - even with the volume full, every other one I listen to is fine.
enjoy the podcast but the volume is so low if you're out and about you can just about hear it even at full volume.
is there a youtube version of this podcast?
I'm sorry I think this guy's story is fiction. Toby with bloodshot eyes? Typical stereotype.
Best podcast on the topic. honest, objective and thoughtful.
this is your worst guest so far
This guy lost all credibility the moment he mentioned that X15 pilots were to briefed to look for UFOs......those guys were piloting a hypersonic rocket sled and had their attention pretty much focused on keping that amazing machine under control and thus staying alive. Their missions were minutes long.....not hours.
Interesting guest and episode. I completely agree with the host about the Daily Record- I dislike them too, for similar reasons. Watp.
Wow Andy, that was one hell of a cliff hanger question lol. Can't wait for the second part! Absolutely fascinating and superb interview 👏 #UAP #UFO #AlienAbduction
#Mahsa_Amini #Nika_Shakarami #Sarina_Smailzade #Dictator_Governance #Protest #Iran #مهسا_امینی #نیکا_شاکرمی #سارینا_اسماعیل_زاده ✌️✌️✌️
What is that cool song?
is the past really fixed. look up the experiments on retro causality
John Goat Greenewald Jr is the greatest of all time. Hence his middle name
I felt tainted after listening to this guest - he struck me as a sniper. I kept getting images of Frank Burns from MASH in my head and I dont know why..... Please change my mind?
Fantastic interview, a very respectable guest 👏