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Author: Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman

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Feeling stuck in a sales slump? Pipeline looking thinner than a supermodel on a juice cleanse? Want to grow your business faster than a startup funded by a lottery winner? Then buckle up, buttercup, because "The Selling Podcast" is your new obsession!


Join your seasoned (slightly graying but still very spry) sales pros, Mike and Scott, who collectively boast over 50 years of crushing quotas (and racking up enough airline and hotel points to live perpetually in a suite). They're not just here to drop wisdom; they're here to deliver a potent mix of "deep-ish thoughts and some truly mediocre advice" (their words, not ours... mostly) on everything from closing monster deals to navigating the wild ride of life.


Every week, prepare for unfiltered stories, battle-tested philosophies, hard-earned insights, and enough random tangents to keep you laughing – and learning! They even drag in some special guests (who usually offer the really deep insights, just between us) to elevate the conversation even further.


Whether you're a seasoned sales manager, a hungry rep grinding for commission, or just someone who wants to understand the human element of persuasion, Mike and Scott cut through the fluff with their signature blend of sharp sales strategies and hilarious banter.


Stop wishing for more sales, start getting them! Hit subscribe, join the conversation, and let Mike and Scott help you sell better, live better, and most of all... enjoy all of it!

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Send us a text Are you managing your business or truly leading it? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott welcome strategic expert Jim Hanlon to discuss a powerful, often overlooked truth: the best CEOs are often the best CE-'NO's. Jim breaks down the mindset required to run your business with laser-like focus. He explains that great leadership often requires the courage to say "no" to distractions and opportunities that, while tempting, don't align with your core mission. The cen...
Send us a text Think a deal is dead? Think again! This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott welcome legendary long-time selling champion Tim Germann to share his game-changing philosophy: no sale is ever too far gone. Tim reveals the counterintuitive phrase that has saved countless deals when a client says they’re moving in another direction: "And that is exactly why you should stay with us." He breaks down why this phrase instantly catches prospects off guard, buys you crucial ...
Send us a text Ever wondered what it really takes to turn a great idea into a profitable business—all while keeping your day job? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott are thrilled to host Justin Kress from Justinhomecare! Justin is here to share the blueprint for building a thriving business from absolutely nothing. Justin dives into his compelling personal story, detailing the journey from having a brilliant idea to successfully transforming his side hustle into a full-fledged,...
Send us a text We've all been there: staring at the phone, dreading the next cold email, and suddenly the urge to organize your sock drawer is overwhelming. This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott tackle the universal sales struggle: how to reach out when you really don't want to. They dive straight into the psychology of sales avoidance, breaking down the seven major traps to avoid. Stop waiting for motivation, quit apologizing, and delete that novel-length message! Mike and Scott...
Send us a text Are your conversations in networking events and client meetings leading straight to dead ends? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott tackle a critical skill that separates master networkers from awkward noodlers: the difference between "Nothing" and "Great" conversation starters. Mike and Scott break down the safe, lazy phrases that kill rapport (yes, we’re looking at you, "How's the weather?" and "Busy day?"). They reveal why these are just statements about facts ...
Send us a text It’s the conversation every sales professional avoids, but the one you desperately need to hear. This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott pull no punches on a critical question: when is it time to fire a client? They reveal that holding on to a bad customer can be more damaging than letting them go, costing you not just revenue, but your time, your team's morale, and your business's future. In this episode, we break down 12 unmistakable red flags that signal a toxic r...
Send us a text Ever feel like a sales call was a total waste of time? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott reveal the antidote: a powerful framework built on just four essential questions that turn every conversation into a strategic advantage. They introduce the "Strategic Flight Plan," a simple yet powerful methodology that ensures every sales call is intentional and directly tied to your quota. You'll learn to ask: "Why are we stopping here?" to avoid the easy but pointless m...
Send us a text Are your "just checking in" emails getting you ghosted? This week, Mike and Scott get straight to the point on one of the biggest deal-killing mistakes in sales. They reveal why this common phrase is a total waste of time and introduce the Golden Rule of Follow-Up—a framework that transforms your outreach from an annoyance into a valuable part of the sales process. In this episode, you’ll learn how to: Add Value, Not Just Nudges: Discover how to share industry insights, client ...
Send us a text Is cold calling dead? It's the most controversial question in sales, and this week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott tackle the debate head-on. In a classic showdown of old-school grit versus new-school tech, they lay out the powerful case for and against the cold call. On one side, they argue that cold calling is far from dead, serving as a direct, fast path to decision-makers and a powerful way to build genuine human connection in a digital world. They even explain why...
Send us a text Is the elusive "work/life balance" a myth? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and I get real about a topic that plagues every ambitious professional. We argue that true balance is impossible and that the real key to success lies in a radical reframe: work/life is a trade-off, not a balance. Mike lays out a powerful truth: work is an obligation, but family is a non-negotiable responsibility. With this perspective, we explore the concept of work/life integration, a more rea...
Send us a text Ever wonder what separates the good sales reps from the truly great ones—the ones who consistently meet and exceed their quota, quarter after quarter? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott pull back the curtain on the top three things elite sales professionals do to achieve consistent success. No guests, no fluff, just actionable wisdom you can implement immediately. We dive deep into three core principles: They Own Their Pipeline Like a CEO: Elite reps don't sit b...
Send us a text On "The Selling Podcast" we're celebrating our 5-year anniversary! To mark the occasion, Mike and Scott take an unforgettable look back at half a decade of hard-won sales wisdom, funny banter, and unforgettable guests. But this isn't your typical retrospective. In a first for the show, Mike and Scott get a little help from the future, using AI personalities generated by NotebookLM to help them revisit and distill the most impactful moments from past episodes. It was a blast to ...
Send us a text How many times has a deal gone sour because of a simple miscommunication about expectations? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott welcome Pete Howland to break down the critical skill of setting and managing client expectations. This isn't just about good manners; it's about building trust, avoiding disappointment, and ensuring a fantastic customer experience. Pete reveals a simple yet powerful tactic: instead of giving a vague timeframe like "it'll be ready in a ...
Send us a text Ever feel like you're pitching to a brick wall? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott sit down with Ryan Blair, a dynamic change consultant, to tackle one of the toughest challenges in sales: getting people to embrace change. We all know change is hard—for us, and for our prospects—and Ryan provides the blueprint for making it happen. In this insightful episode, Ryan reveals his battle-tested tips and tricks for guiding people through the change process. He shares ...
Send us a text It's the call every sales professional dreads: losing a top account. This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott get raw and real about a painful truth in the sales world. They reveal that no matter how experienced you are, the sting of losing a major client never truly goes away. The same cycle of emotions—shock, anger, and self-doubt—happens every single time. In this episode, we tackle this emotional rollercoaster head-on, providing a crucial framework for not just su...
Send us a text Ever find yourself dreaming big about your sales goals, but those dreams feel more like a fantasy than a plan? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott tackle a crucial distinction that separates successful sales pros from those perpetually chasing rainbows: the difference between a pipeline and a pipedream. We dive into what makes a pipedream – those exciting, often unrealistic aspirations that live only in your head. While creativity and big thinking are great, a pi...
Send us a text Ever feel like there aren't enough hours in the day to truly build the business of your dreams? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott are joined by an incredible trio: Aaron Skinner, Alex Skinner, and PJ Howland, the brilliant minds behind UnsexyBusinessmen.com! This episode is a goldmine for aspiring and current entrepreneurs who are tired of the hustle culture narrative and want practical strategies to regain control of their time. The UnsexyBusinessmen founder...
Send us a text Ready to ditch the dream and actually start that business you've been thinking about? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott are joined by the incredibly generous Aaron Skinner, the mastermind behind unsexybusinessmen.com! If you've ever felt overwhelmed by the first steps of entrepreneurship, this episode is your personal blueprint. Aaron doesn't just talk about starting a business; he gives away the essential information for free! He pulls back the curtain on how ...
Send us a text Ever dreamt of starting your own business, but feel overwhelmed by where to begin? Or maybe you're already in the trenches, navigating the inevitable growing pains? This week on "The Selling Podcast," Mike and Scott cut through the noise and get real with Aaron Skinner, the mastermind behind unsexybusinessmen.com! Aaron isn't just talking theory; he's lived it. He shares the raw, unfiltered journey of how he built a seemingly "unsexy" janitorial business from the ground up, dri...
Send us a text In this essential episode of "The Selling Podcast," your hosts Mike and Scott tackle a critical yet often mishandled aspect of sales: the framework of effective follow-up. We've all been there – a great initial conversation, but then the follow-up falls flat, or worse, pushes the prospect away. This week, we break down how to master your follow-up strategy to keep deals alive and ultimately, close more sales. We dive into three common pitfalls and how to avoid them, ensuring yo...
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