The Overthinkers

Why do so many people choose to be religious? What draws people to embrace belief? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with filmmaker Rian Johnson, his new film "Wake Up Dead Man" and the themes of faith his movie brings up. References and resources Global religious population: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/06/09/how-the-global-religious-landscape-changed-from-2010-to-2020/ American religious population: https://religionunplugged.com/news/2025/12/8/us-religious-decline-stalls-as-new-pew-data-shows-stabilization-even-among-young-adults Jon Stewart on faith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSmrEVjQdG8 Arthur Brooks on faith: https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/public-leadership-management/happiness-may-be-decline-we-can-all Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmestudios.com Rian Johnson: https://x.com/rianjohnson

The Bible--and the wider culture--agree: "It's better to give than to receive". But is that what the data says? And why would that be? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with insights from Dallas Jenkins, who discusses the DVD release of his film "The Best Christmas Pagaent Ever".  References and resources: What happens to your brain when you give vs receive: https://www.apa.org/topics/mental-health/brain-gift-giving Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Dallas Jenkins: https://www.instagram.com/dallas.jenkins/?hl=en

Everyone talks about getting in the Christmas spirit. But what is the Christmas spirit? And how do you have it? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss. References and resources Christmas spirit definition: https://www.facebook.com/fb.oed/posts/oed-wordoftheday-christmas-spirit-na-mood-or-attitude-appropriate-to-the-christm/1136215868511469/, https://www.oed.com/dictionary/christmas-spirit_n?linkId=300000019641113&fbclid=IwY2xjawN314hleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFUSnNKSDY4UGRoSDI4WWFwc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHvA0QL5PLZnJNTCoP7-DaWOfA5jOZJH18DOtdASApamvn0lrpaHtACOMgfw0_aem_Ah8kEn_mj7ADGUERhyJgwA Measuring the Christmas spirit: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/stretching-theory/202212/now-you-can-measure-christmas-spirit? A Christmas Carol Influence: https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/anthropology-in-practice/what-is-christmas-spirit/ Religious meaning of the Christmas spirit: https://ca.thegospelcoalition.org/columns/straight-paths/the-christmas-spirit/ Christmas Stress: https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2023/11/holiday-season-stress Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com

What was the world like that CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien wrote their stories in? And how did their work change things? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with author and historian Dr. Joseph Loconte. References and resources:   Tolkien and Lewis fantasy influence: https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-companion-to-fantasy-literature/tolkien-lewis-and-the-explosion-of-genre-fantasy/47A1D63A6D2D6F2553664D98F0F2EC1D Lewis and Tolkien’s influence through their fantasy writing and school curriculum: https://aeon.co/essays/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-oxford-school-of-fantasy-literature?utm_source=chatgpt.com   Lewis and Tolkien influence on Christian thought leaders: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2000/04/books-of-century/   Lewis books sold: https://www.cslewis.com/us/about-cs-lewis/   Tolkien books sold: https://200.hc.com/stories/j-r-r-tolkien-and-the-trilogy/ Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: linktr.ee/JosephHolmes Joseph Loconte: https://sagamoreinstitute.org/joseph-loconte/

We hear a lot about the importance of pursuing your dreams. But which dreams? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss. References and resources: Pew research: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/09/14/what-makes-for-a-fulfilling-life/#:~:text=When%20asked%20what%20it%20takes,Gender   Marriage matters more for happiness than career: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/17/opinion/marriage-happiness-career.html   Fantasizing about dreams kills goals, fantasizing about process helps achieve them: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/manifestation-positive-thinking-happiness/679695/   Most people do not achieve their goals: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2980864/ Nearly half of Americans very satisfied with their lives: https://news.gallup.com/poll/610133/less-half-americans-satisfied-own-lives.aspx   The changing definitions of “calling”: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/how-do-we-know-our-calling-with-dr-william-klein/id1510271421?i=1000684667698 Websites: The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.com Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Link to watch Joseph Holmes' debut feature film, "Jim vs the Future": https://linktr.ee/JosephHolmes

Should we try to convert others to our beliefs? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson welcome American film director Justin Lin (director of multiple Fast and Furious movies) to discuss his new film "Last Days" about the 26-year-old Christian missionary John Chau, who died trying to convert the North Sentinel Island people. References and resources: Conversion definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conversion https://www.oed.com/dictionary/conversion_n#8281191 Benefits of missionaries: https://www.christianitytoday.com/about/stories/the-unexpected-good-news-about-missionaries/ Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: linktr.ee/JosephHolmes Justin Lin: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0510912/ Last Days film: https://www.lastdays-movie.com/

What are the Medieval virtues? How are they related to the seven deadly sins? And how can they help us today? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson are joined by scholar and author Dr. Grace Hamman to answer these very questions. References and resources: https://www.britannica.com/event/Middle-Ages   Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Dr. Grace Hamman: https://gracehamman.com/

What are real-life exorcisms like? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson interview real-life exorcist Reverend Dan Todd on our latest episode.  References and resources   https://www.history.com/articles/exorcisms-christianity-gospels-movie   https://bigthink.com/thinking/history-of-exorcism/ Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Rev. Dan Todd: https://www.ourladyofdivinemercyac.net/about-us

Vampires have been a part of our mythology and pop culture for centuries. But why do they remain so popular? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss. References and resources: History of Vampires https://www.history.com/articles/vampire-history Blesses Twilight (Movie) Let the Right One In (Movie) Dracula Has Risen from the Grave (Movie) Curses Vampire Diaries (TV Show) Bram Stoker's Dracula (Movie) Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournanl.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com

Do monsters, cryptids, and urban legends like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster exist? If so, how would we know for certain? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with hosts of the Campfire Files podcast: Colin Blackburn and Kara Russo.   References and resources History of Bigfoot: https://www.history.com/articles/bigfoot-legend-newspaper Belief in Bigfoot, aliens, and loch ness monster on rise: https://civicscience.com/u-s-belief-in-sasquatch-has-risen-since-2020/ Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkers.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Campfire Files: https://campfirefiles.podbean.com/

Everyone's talking about AI nowadays. Should we be scared of it? If so, what exactly should we be scared of? We bring on culture and social critic Boze Herrington to discuss.  References and resources   Plato’s Argument against writing: https://fs.blog/an-old-argument-against-writing/ Definition of AI: https://www.nasa.gov/what-is-artificial-intelligence/ AI is making us dumber   https://www.forbes.com/sites/dimitarmixmihov/2025/02/11/ai-is-making-you-dumber-microsoft-researchers-say/ https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/ Blesses The Lord of the Rings (book) WALL-E (film) Meagan (film) Children of Men (film) Curses Companion (Movie) The Creator (Movie) Five Nights at Freddy's (Movie) Addictive Children's Video Games/Roblox (games)   Websites Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Boze Herrington: @SketchesbyBoze (Twitter/X)  

It seems like today we're more afraid than ever. So how do we handle these fears? And how do we help our children handle fears? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with legendary singer and filmmaker Steven Taylor--who's new scary family film "Sketch" has brought such questions into the spotlight. References and resources Why fear is so powerful: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-happy-life/202008/why-it-feels-the-end-the-world-even-when-its-not   How to overcome fear: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unpacking-anxiety/202312/facing-your-fears   Why anxiety is rising: https://www.afterbabel.com/p/mental-health-liberal-girls   “Sketch” controversy: https://religionunplugged.com/news/2025/8/28/on-religion-angel-studios-sparks-debate-with-scary-faith-film Joseph Holmes’ review of “The Anxious Generation https://lawliberty.org/book-review/what-the-smartphone-hath-wrought/ Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com

Most people feel like there's something wrong with our modern world. But what exactly is it? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with writer and thinker Paul Kingsnorth, unpacking his new book "Against the Machine". References and resources: How cell phones made life worse: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/ Dropping confidence in US instititons:  https://news.gallup.com/poll/647303/confidence-institutions-mostly-flat-police.aspx Blesses Time Out of Joint (Book) You are a Tree (Book) Weapons (Movie) The Master and his Emissary (Book) Wounded By Love (Book)   Curses Idiocracy (Movie) Eddington (Movie) AI (Technology)  Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Paul Kingsnorth: paulkingsnorth.net

What does it mean to be disenchanted? And why are so many people talking about the need to re-enchant the world? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss with special returning guest, author, editor, and culture writer Dr. Joy Clarkson. References and resources: Definition of disenchantment: https://www.britannica.com/topic/disenchantment-sociology Against Re-Enchantment, By Joy Clarkson: https://www.plough.com/en/topics/faith/supernatural/against-reenchantment Blesses The Truman Show (Movie) Hallowe'en Party (Book) That Hideous Strength (Book) Piranesi (Book) Curses The Fourth Kind (Movie) Death of a Unicorn (Movie) The Sandman (TV Show) La La Land (Movie)   Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com

How can we know anything for certain? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson welcome back author and academic Dr. Zak Schmoll to discuss the ever-pesky problem of epistemology.  References and resources: https://www.britannica.com/topic/epistemology Blesses Foe (Book) Biblical Knowing (Book) Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Movie) Interstellar (Movie) The Murder of Roger Ackroyd (Book) Curses Foe (Movie) Zodiac (Curse) Life of Pi (Curse) The Multiverse (Trope) Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Zak Schmoll: https://www.zacharydschmoll.com/

Is social media making us dumber? Is it making us worse? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes give social media a grade and give advice on how to be smarter about your use of your online socials. References and resources: Social media is making us dumber:   https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/   https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/opinion/social-media-dumber-steven-pinker.html   https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2025/01/nicholas-carr-is-the-internet-making-us-stupid/681517/   Social media is (probably) not making us dumber:   https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody-else/201904/social-media-probably-isn-t-making-you-stupid Blesses New York Times Games (App) Chess (App) The Social Network (Movie) Catfish (Documentary) The Anxious Generation (Book) Curses The Circle (Movie) The Social Dilemma (Documentary) Social Media Bots Social Media Friends Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com

Homelessness is something everyone agrees is a problem. Yet, no one seems to know how to solve it. Scholar, speaker, community activist and author of From Dropout to Doctorate Dr. Terrence Lester joins Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes to share his life story and data-driven solutions on how to make a difference in the lives of those experiencing this devastating life situation. References and resources Homelessness definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homeless Homelessness stats: https://www.britannica.com/topic/homelessness   Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Terrence Lester: https://terencelester.com/

Is the church not supportive enough of the arts? What would such support look like? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes talk to Brian Brown of the Anselm Society and Imagination Redeemed Podcast on this latest episode. References and resources   Art definition: https://www.britannica.com/art/visual-arts   Banning theatrical portrayals of religion: https://lithub.com/why-was-shakespeare-wary-of-writing-about-religion/   Why the church should support the arts: https://thecollision.org/its-time-for-the-church-to-unleash-its-artists%EF%BF%BC/   Why the church should be balanced on the support of the arts: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevin-deyoung/the-church-and-the-arts-some-common-ground-and-some-common-sense/   Blesses   Sistine Chapel (Art) The Anselm Society (Organization) The Hephzibah House (Organization) Greenhouse (Organization) Hollywood Prayer Network (Organization) The Agony and the Ecstasy (Movie) Handel’s Messiah (Music) People Creating New Art in Dialogue with the Old Stuff (Artists at Spotify Playlist: anselmsociety.org/theoverthinkers)   Curses The Hayes Code (Hollywood Code) Babylon (Movie) CCM Industrial Complex (Music Industry)   Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephhomlmesstudios.com Brian Brown: anselmsociety.org/overthinkers

As more and more people are questioning the usefulness of higher education, it's worthwhile to ask: what is the purpose of education in the first place? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with educator and cultural apologist Annie Crawford. References and resources: What students want from college: https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/higher-ed-gamma/true-purpose-college-education Why young people are abandoning college: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/why-more-americans-are-skipping-college Historical development of modern education: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-understanding-the-historical-purposes-of-modern-schooling-matters-today/ CS Lewis on education: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/52604-education-without-values-as-useful-as-it-is-seems-rather Martin Luther King Jr. on education: https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/purpose-education Blesses Educating the Wholehearted Child (Book) Community (TV Show) Rope (Movie) Beauty for Truth's Sake (Book) Beauty in the Word (Book) Curses Dead Poets Society (Movie) Mona Lisa Smile (Movie) AI/Chat GPT (Technology) Websites: Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com Annie Crawford: anniecrawford.net

Our culture, and our entire political system, is based on the idea that discussion and debate can change hearts and minds. But is that a lie? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss. References and resources   Exposure to alternative viewpoints causes us to dig in our heels: https://www.weforum.org/stories/2018/04/actually-social-media-isn-t-an-echo-chamber/   Cognitive bias: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-baby-scientist/202406/changing-hearts-and-minds   Our mental map: https://www.turing.ac.uk/blog/facts-dont-change-minds-and-theres-data-prove-it   Persuade people through relationships: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/18/change-mind-evidence-arguing-social-relationships Persuade people through better forms of debate: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evidence-based-living/201811/proven-ways-change-someone-s-mind   https://ed.ted.com/lessons/how-can-you-change-someone-s-mind-spoiler-facts-don-t-work-so-well-hugo-mercier Websites The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com