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Vanessa Spina is a Sports Nutrition Specialist, Best Selling author, creator of the innovative TONE device, as well as a sought after international speaker. On the Optimal Protein podcast, Vanessa shares how to get effortlessly lean and improve metabolic health and fitness with an optimal protein intake!

Featuring interviews with world renowned and leading edge protein scientists & experts, authors, and people with inspiring transformational stories discussing the best tools for becoming optimizing your metabolic health with whole foods, nutrition, exercise and more!
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This episode featured Dr. Dom D'Agostino- the world's pre-eminent ketone scientist! We discuss the concept of a PSMKD (Protein Sparing Modified Ketogenic Diet) to Optimize Protein Intake for Fat Loss & Protecting Muscle While Gaining the Benefits of Ketosis, Measuring Breath Acetone & More! His thoughts on breath acetone to monitor fat loss, having a glucose to breath acetone index, why having high BHB may not be optimal for health under certain scenarios, and much more!! Dr. Dominic D’Agostino is a Professor in the Department of Molecular Pharmacology and Physiology at the University of South Florida and Research Scientist at the Institute for Human and Machine Cognition (IHMC).  His laboratory develops and tests metabolic-based strategies for neurological disorders, cancer, and for enhancing safety and resilience of military personnel in extreme environments.  His research is supported by the Office of Naval Research (ONR), Department of Defense (DoD), private organizations and foundations. For more from Dr. D'Agostino, visit https://ketonutrition.org/ Some of the studies mentioned in this episode:  Measuring breath acetone for monitoring fat loss Study with measuring Acetone & Latency to Seizure George Cahill fasting study & what initiates ketosis. Ketones as a super fuel  Virta study long term BHB levels FAQ on the Acetone, Ketones & The Tone  Introducing the brand new TONE Device! Struggling to lose weight or reach your fitness goals? The TONE is a new breath acetone meter which lets you know if your body is burning fat!  All TONE devices are NOW SHIPPING Worldwide!! Order the TONE here. Now shipping worldwide!!  Order the Black & Gold TONE HERE Order the Black & Rose Gold TONE HERE Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the facebook group for the podcast: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2017506024952802/ Follow Vanessa on instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl - Prior to beginning a ketogenic diet you should undergo a health screening with your physician to confirm that a ketogenic diet is suitable for you and to rule out any conditions and contraindications that may pose risks or are incompatible with a ketogenic diet, including by way of example: conditions affecting the kidneys, liver or pancreas; muscular dystrophy; pregnancy; breast-feeding; being underweight; eating disorders; any health condition that requires a special diet [other conditions or contraindications]; hypoglycemia; or type 1 diabetes. A ketogenic diet may or may not be appropriate if you have type 2 diabetes, so you must consult with your physician if you have this condition. Anyone under the age of 18 should consult with their physician and their parents or legal guardian before beginning such a diet. Use of Ketogenic Girl videos are subject to the Ketogenicgirl.com Terms of Use and Medical Disclaimer. All rights reserved. If you do not agree with these terms, do not listen to, or view any Ketogenic Girl podcasts or videos.
This episode is featuring Dr. Dom D'Agostino- the world's pre-eminent ketone scientist! We discuss using breath acetone to monitor fat loss, understanding how to measure various ketones, fasting and ketosis, acetone's powerful effects on latency to seizure, acetone to BHB ratios and what determines the ratio of BHB to acetoacetate, why having high BHB may not be optimal for health under certain scenarios, and much more!! Dr. Dominic D’Agostino is a Professor in the Department of Molecular Pharmacology and Physiology at the University of South Florida and Research Scientist at the Institute for Human and Machine Cognition (IHMC).  His laboratory develops and tests metabolic-based strategies for neurological disorders, cancer, and for enhancing safety and resilience of military personnel in extreme environments.  His research is supported by the Office of Naval Research (ONR), Department of Defense (DoD), private organizations and foundations. For more from Dr. D'Agostino, visit https://ketonutrition.org/ Some of the studies mentioned in this episode:  Measuring breath acetone for monitoring fat loss Study with measuring Acetone & Latency to Seizure George Cahill fasting study & what initiates ketosis. Ketones as a super fuel  Virta study long term BHB levels FAQ on the Acetone, Ketones & The Tone  Introducing the brand new TONE Device! Struggling to lose weight or reach your fitness goals? The TONE is a new breath acetone meter which lets you know if your body is burning fat!  All TONE devices are NOW SHIPPING Worldwide!! Order the TONE here. Now shipping worldwide!!  Order the Black & Gold TONE HERE Order the Black & Rose Gold TONE HERE Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the facebook group for the podcast: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2017506024952802/ Follow Vanessa on instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl - Prior to beginning a ketogenic diet you should undergo a health screening with your physician to confirm that a ketogenic diet is suitable for you and to rule out any conditions and contraindications that may pose risks or are incompatible with a ketogenic diet, including by way of example: conditions affecting the kidneys, liver or pancreas; muscular dystrophy; pregnancy; breast-feeding; being underweight; eating disorders; any health condition that requires a special diet [other conditions or contraindications]; hypoglycemia; or type 1 diabetes. A ketogenic diet may or may not be appropriate if you have type 2 diabetes, so you must consult with your physician if you have this condition. Anyone under the age of 18 should consult with their physician and their parents or legal guardian before beginning such a diet. Use of Ketogenic Girl videos are subject to the Ketogenicgirl.com Terms of Use and Medical Disclaimer. All rights reserved. If you do not agree with these terms, do not listen to, or view any Ketogenic Girl podcasts or videos.
Beat BLOAT & unlock better protein absorption and digestion with MassZymes by BiOptimizers. NOW GET 15% off your order with the code VANESSA at bioptimizers.com/vanessa Today’s solocast is all about Protein-Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF) days — how I’ve been using them in my own fat loss journey, how my approach differs from the traditional PSMF, and what the latest research says about PSMF, refeeds, and protein intake for protecting lean mass. IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. I’ll be sharing: Exactly how I structure PSMF days for myself, including my research based updates on the method  How I base my approach on cutting-edge research, including the brand-new 2025 meta-analysis on protein intake and lean mass preservation during fat loss My personal results so far — how much weight I’ve lost since starting August 1, how it’s affecting my body composition, and what’s working best for me The latest studies on PSMF and refeed protocols: do refeeds really help with fat loss or just with muscle preservation and diet fatigue? Why pushing protein higher during a cut is “muscle insurance” and what the evidence says is the sweet spot for most women and men If your goal is fat loss without losing muscle, this episode is your blueprint. Get my NEW high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not nutritional or medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.
Content Note / Trigger Warning: The first two-thirds of this episode focus on Maria Emmerich’s expertise in helping thousands of people who are overweight, obese, or struggling with metabolic health to lose weight and dramatically improve their health and lives. In the last third of the interview, Maria shares her very recent personal experience with struggling with restrictive dieting, and her courageous journey of weight regain. Please listen with care if these topics around disordered eating may be sensitive or triggering for you. See *RESOURCE below if you or someone you care about needs support. Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ—clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. Today’s guest is Maria Emmerich, internationally renowned nutritionist, best-selling author, and an expert in her version of integrating 1-2 Protein Sparing Modified Fast Days (PSMF Days) in a week to create a weekly caloric deficit while protecting muscle and metabolism, including re-feed days to balance out the week. In this episode, we cover: What PSMF Days are and how they differ from the sugar diet or fasting How PSMF Days preserve lean muscle while accelerating fat loss The role of stall foods like nuts, dairy, and nut flours in holding back fat loss Client strategies for satiety, electrolytes, and exercise integration The science behind metabolic adaptation, and refeeds Why higher protein intake and supplements like creatine are key for recomposition Maria’s personal story of becoming too lean, regaining weight, and how it reshaped her coaching philosophy This episode is packed with practical strategies from Maria’s decades of experience helping people transform their health — and also offers a very candid look into her own personal journey. IQBAR is offering my podcast listeners 20% OFF all products, plus FREE shipping! IQBARs are packed with plant protein, fiber, and brain nutrients like Lion’s Mane and omega-3s, keto-friendly, low in sugar, gluten-free, dairy-free, and soy-free. To claim your discount, just text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. NEW! Support your strength and muscle goals with PUORI Creatine+ — a clean, effective creatine monohydrate supplement enhanced with magnesium and vitamin B12. Get 20% off at puori.com/VANESSA Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide  Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at https://ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen. *RESOURCE: If you are in the United States and you or someone you love is struggling with disordered eating, support is available. You can call the National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA) Helpline at 1-800-931-2237 or visit nationaleatingdisorders.org for resources.
Beat BLOAT & unlock better protein absorption and digestion with MassZymes by BiOptimizers. NOW GET 15% off your order with the code VANESSA at bioptimizers.com/vanessa In this special solocast, Vanessa recaps the top highlights from two powerhouse researchers in protein metabolism: Dr. Carlene Starck and Dr. Arny Ferrando. If your goal is fat loss, muscle preservation, and body recomposition—especially in peri and post-menopause—this episode is packed with evidence-based strategies you can start applying today. IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. 🔬 From Dr. Carlene Starck: • Why current essential amino acid (EAA) requirements are likely underestimated. • The role of oxidation and gut turnover in daily amino acid losses. • Why the optimal EAA:non-EAA ratio is ~41–42%—and what that means for protein quality. • Plant vs. animal proteins for body composition and calorie efficiency. • Updated protein targets for women in perimenopause and menopause. • Creatine, collagen, and key micronutrients for women’s metabolic health. 💪 From Dr. Arny Ferrando: • Protein-Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF) vs. water fasting for fat loss and muscle preservation. • GLP-1 agonists: the hidden risks to muscle mass and how to protect yourself. • Collagen for surgery recovery, connective tissue health, and repair. • The two levers of anabolism: amino acid signal + blood flow delivery. • How EAAs timed with movement can overcome anabolic resistance. • Practical programming for peri/post-menopausal women: resistance training, vertical loading, and activity as medicine. • Red light therapy & blood flow restriction: when tools can help support blood flow. ✨ Key Takeaway: Protecting muscle and improving body composition comes down to two things: Quality protein and EAAs to maximize the anabolic signal. Movement and blood flow to deliver those amino acids to muscle. When you combine these, you unlock the blueprint to preserve lean mass, lose fat, and age strong. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook https://ketogenicgirl.com/pages/new-free-ebook Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.
Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ — clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. In this highly requested follow-up, Dr. Arny Ferrando returns to the Optimal Protein Podcast to go even deeper into the science of preserving muscle and optimizing body composition. Dr. Ferrando is one of the world’s leading researchers in muscle protein metabolism, with over 35 years of groundbreaking work on essential amino acids, anabolic resistance, and nutrition-exercise interactions. We kick things off with his perspective on Protein-Sparing Modified Fasts (PSMF) versus water fasting, and the implications each has for fat loss and lean mass preservation. Dr. Ferrando also shares his positive take on collagen supplementation, including how it can support connective tissue health, and weighs in on the potential risks of GLP-1 medications to muscle tissue during rapid weight loss. NEW! Support your strength and muscle goals with PUORI Creatine+ — a clean, effective creatine monohydrate supplement enhanced with magnesium and vitamin B12. Get 20% off at puori.com/VANESSA We kick things off with his perspective on Protein-Sparing Modified Fasts (PSMF) versus water fasting, and the implications each has for fat loss and lean mass preservation. Dr. Ferrando also shares his positive take on collagen supplementation, including how it can support connective tissue health, and weighs in on the potential risks of GLP-1 medications to muscle tissue during rapid weight loss. The heart of this episode dives into anabolic resistance during menopause. Dr. Ferrando explains why it may not just be about hormones, but also about impaired nutrient delivery to muscle. He describes amino acids as the “signal” and blood flow as the “delivery truck”—a powerful analogy that reveals why exercise is so critical to overcoming anabolic resistance. We explore practical strategies for women to preserve muscle and improve body composition during midlife and beyond, including: Why blood flow and nutrient delivery may matter as much as hormones. How red light therapy and blood flow restriction training (BFR) could enhance amino acid delivery and muscle responsiveness. His recommendations for EAA dosing, timing, and frequency in peri- and postmenopausal women. The role of microvascular health and endothelial function in muscle retention. Why free-form EAAs are more efficient than intact protein under calorie restriction. This conversation is packed with actionable science and myth-busting insights that will help you understand how to protect your muscle, burn fat, and stay strong at every stage of life. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide  Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at https://ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
Unlock better protein absorption and digestion with MassZymes by BiOptimizers. NOW GET 15% off your order with the code VANESSA at bioptimizers.com/vanessa The Bloating Episode! If you’ve ever struggled with bloating after eating, digestive discomfort, or wondered if your body is really absorbing all the protein and nutrients you consume, this episode is for you. I’m joined by Wade Lightheart, co-founder and president of BiOptimizers, to dive into the science of digestive enzymes and how they can transform digestion, nutrient absorption, and protein utilization. A former natural bodybuilding champion, Wade developed MassZymes after struggling with his own digestion on a high-protein diet. We cover: What EXACTLY causes bloating and poor protein digestion Why low stomach acid and declining enzyme levels with age can cause bloating and poor nutrient absorption. Clinical research on protease blends and a 2024 protein study showing improved amino acid absorption with enzyme support. A university laboratory test on MassZymes suggesting over 1,200% more amino acids released compared to digestion alone. How lipase enzymes can reduce bloating and fullness after high-fat meals. Why older adults and high-protein eaters may especially benefit from enzyme supplementation for muscle and metabolic health. If bloating, slow digestion, or protein absorption has ever held you back from feeling your best, this conversation will help you fix your bloat and unlock the full benefits of your nutrition. 👉 Get 15% off MassZymes by BiOptimizers with the code VANESSA at bioptimizers.com/vanessa. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook https://ketogenicgirl.com/pages/new-free-ebook Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.
Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ — clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. Today’s episode features Dr. Carlene Starck, a nutrition scientist whose groundbreaking research is changing the way we think about protein and amino acid requirements. Her work suggests that current recommendations for essential amino acids may be far too low, with major implications for fat loss, muscle preservation, and how we define protein quality. NEW! I love Puori for their pure, science-backed supplements. Creatine+ is one of my top recommendations for women, as it’s a foundational supplement that supports fat loss, body recomposition, lean muscle, and even cognition. Get 20% off at puori.com/VANESSA We discuss her research on: Why true protein and amino acid needs are higher than guidelines suggest How this widens the gap between animal and plant-based proteins The impact of gut and oxidative amino acid losses on protein requirements Novel strategies to improve protein digestion, from kiwifruit enzymes to keratin hydrolysates Dairy vs. plant alternatives, and what her latest A2 milk study revealed about mood and cognition Affordable ways to close key nutrient gaps for better body composition and health Dr. Starck also shares a preview of her upcoming work on protein requirements and what it means for the future of nutrition science. This is a must-listen episode if you want to understand why protein is so central to fat loss, metabolic health, and long-term body recomposition. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide  Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at https://ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this solo recap episode, Vanessa breaks down her in-depth interview with Dr. Andy Galpin, one of the world’s leading muscle scientists and performance physiologists. This 60-minute masterclass distills the most important takeaways from their conversation into clear, actionable steps for fat loss, body recomposition, and metabolic health. 👉 Unlock better protein absorption and digestion with MassZymes by BiOptimizers. Get 10% off your order with the code VANESSA at bioptimizers.com/vanessa What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The real science of fat loss — why stored fat leaves your body as exhaled carbon, not sweat. Carbon in vs. carbon out — how to think about energy balance more clearly. Why nutrition drives fat loss — the 90/10 rule of diet vs. exercise. The two macros most women misjudge — why we consistently overestimate protein and underestimate fat. What to do if you’re stuck at 1,200 calories — Andy’s three-step framework: reevaluate, build muscle, or take a structured diet break. Protein timing truths — total daily protein matters more than timing, plus the role of pre-sleep protein. Metabolic flexibility demystified — why it’s about switching fuels efficiently, not always “burning fat.” The sleep–fat loss connection — how poor sleep alters hormones, cravings, and body composition. Anabolic resistance and menopause — why blood flow and activity may matter more than hormones alone. A one-week action blueprint — practical steps you can apply right away for better results. This episode is packed with clarity and practical insights to help you optimize protein, training, and recovery so you can burn fat, preserve lean mass, and unlock your healthiest, strongest self. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook https://ketogenicgirl.com/pages/new-free-ebook Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.
Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ — clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. In this episode of the Optimal Protein Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Andy Galpin — world-renowned muscle physiologist, strength coach, and leading expert in human performance optimization. We dive deep into the cutting-edge science of muscle, metabolism, fat loss, and how to train smarter at every stage of life. NEW! Support your strength and muscle goals with PUORI Creatine+ — a clean, effective creatine monohydrate supplement enhanced with magnesium and vitamin B12. Get 20% off at puori.com/VANESSA This conversation covers the latest research on muscle fiber types, how to maintain fast-twitch muscle into your 40s and beyond, and why many women are far more predisposed to strength and power than we’ve been led to believe. Dr. Galpin also shares actionable strategies to break out of fat loss plateaus, reverse chronic dieting, improve metabolic flexibility, and strategically use tools like intermittent fasting, pre-sleep protein, and creatine to maximize fat loss and muscle retention. You’ll learn: What actually happens to fat when you lose it (hint: it leaves your body when you exhale!) Why most people are eating way less protein than they think — and how that sabotages recomposition The truth about sarcoplasmic vs. myofibrillar hypertrophy How to train if you’re stuck at 1200 calories and not seeing progress The surprising impact of sleep on fat metabolism and why pre-sleep protein may boost your overnight fat burning How to use your circadian rhythm to schedule workouts for maximum performance What Dr. Galpin recommends if your peak energy window is in the late afternoon — including ideal wake-up and bedtimes Whether Pilates, intermittent fasting, or creatine actually work for fat loss and muscle building And how women can use strength training to build muscle, reverse aging, and become “metabolically bulletproof” If you’re looking to overcome metabolic resistance, finally see results from your fat loss efforts, and train in a way that respects your biology — this episode is a masterclass in practical, science-backed strategies from one of the top experts in the world. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide  Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at https://ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this Friday episode, I’m diving into my fascinating conversation with Will Nitze, the founder and CEO of IQBAR—a bar formulated to fuel both the brain and the body. This solocast-style recap explores the unique backstory of how Will built IQBAR from the ground up and how the brand became a leader in the functional protein space. We break down: How Will developed the idea and scaled IQBAR from concept to nationwide success The exact macronutrient profile behind IQBAR and why it’s ideal for fat loss The powerful synergy between high protein and high fiber for satiety, stable blood sugar, and body recomposition Why ingredients like MCT oil, lion’s mane, magnesium, and omega-3s were included for cognitive support How smart snacking can support fat loss goals—especially when macros are optimized If you’re someone who struggles with hitting protein targets on the go, curbing cravings, or simply wants a science-backed, low-carb snack that supports your fat loss journey—this is the episode for you. Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté  and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.  
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In today’s episode, Vanessa sits down with Dr. Samuel Dicken, Research Fellow at University College London’s Centre for Obesity Research and lead author of the UPDATE Trial — the longest and most rigorous clinical study to date comparing ultra-processed (UPF) vs. minimally processed (MPF) diets. This landmark trial revealed a game-changing finding: 👉 Even when calories, protein, and nutrients were matched to healthy eating guidelines, participants eating minimally processed foods lost twice as much weight, significantly more body fat, and experienced fewer cravings than those on ultra-processed foods. We dive deep into: Why food processing level impacts fat loss and body recomposition beyond calories How minimally processed diets preserve muscle while reducing fat mass The role of appetite hormones (ghrelin, GLP-1, PYY) and the thermic effect of food in regulating intake Dr. Dicken’s Lancet cohort study linking ultra-processed foods to a 17% higher risk of diabetes per 10% increase in diet share Practical food swaps to maximize satiety per calorie and overcome cravings Where “better” processed foods (like whole-grain breads and fermented dairy) fit into the picture How minimally processed diets compare with — and complement — GLP-1 weight-loss medications If you’ve ever felt like you eat “healthy” but still struggle with fat loss, this episode uncovers why the quality and processing level of your food may matter as much as the nutrients themselves. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide  Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at https://ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2017506024952802/ The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
Discover how Protein-Sparing Modified Fasting PSMF) Days can unlock rapid fat loss without sacrificing muscle. Vanessa shares her own recent results alongside the latest studies on intermittent high-protein fasting in women. Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté  and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Have you ever wondered if you could accelerate fat loss with just a few high-protein, very low-calorie days each week? In this episode, Vanessa dives deep into the modern science of Protein-Sparing Modified Fasts (PSMF) and how intermittent high-protein fasting can help women lose fat, preserve lean muscle, and improve metabolic health. Vanessa reviews the latest studies on: 1–3 PSMF days per week compared to daily dieting Alternate-day and 5:2 style intermittent fasting approaches with high protein How PSMF days stack up against water fasting and generic low-calorie diets Fat loss, lean mass retention, and insulin sensitivity outcomes in women She also shares her personal PSMF experiment — one month of cycling three PSMF days per week — and reveals her results: fat loss, waist measurement changes, muscle preservation, and how it felt in real life. If you’ve been curious about modern approaches to PSMF, how to implement them safely, and whether they truly outperform traditional dieting, this episode brings you the evidence and the personal perspective. IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.  
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. This episode of the Optimal Protein Podcast takes a deep dive into the Protein-Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF) — a scientifically designed approach for rapid fat loss that prioritizes lean muscle preservation. Listeners will learn: What defines a PSMF and how it works in practice The latest research on fat loss outcomes and muscle retention How PSMF compares with ketogenic diets, VLCDs, and intermittent fasting Differences in results between men and women Short-term benefits and potential challenges with long-term use How to implement cycling strategies, refeed phases, and sustainable maintenance plans Evidence-based guidelines for safe and effective use Packed with research findings and practical insights, this episode provides a clear, evidence-based look at how PSMF can be used as a tool for body recomposition, fat loss, and long-term health. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at Ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Today’s episode is a deep-dive recap of my mind-blowing conversation with Dr. Paul Laursen — one of the world’s top experts in exercise physiology, high-intensity interval training (HIIT), and fat-adapted performance. If you’ve ever wondered: Why you feel better fat-fueled than carb-loaded How diet actually drives fat loss more than training Why ketones might be more than a fuel — and actually a proxy for VO₂ max How to optimize your metabolic flexibility using HIIT and protein-forward nutrition …this episode will change how you see your body composition journey — especially if you’ve been trying to out-exercise a poor diet. 🔗 Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and decollete  and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA  We break down: Why diet beats exercise for fat loss — results from Dr. Laursen’s VLCHF vs. HIIT study Fat-adaptation as a proxy for VO₂ max and why that matters for metabolic fitness & longevity How metabolic flexibility fuels both performance and brain health Why animal protein quality is a game-changer for recovery, energy, and lean mass The neuroprotective power of ketones for focus, resilience, and endurance How to train the brain first, body second for performance Why your body rebuilds itself every 6 months — and how to upgrade the raw materials 💡 Dr. Laursen’s 6 Step Body Recomposition Blueprint: Start with a high-protein, low-carb diet built on quality animal protein Use HIIT strategically — not excessively Track your own responses with CGMs and breath ketones Get fat-adapted for longevity, mental clarity, and metabolic resilience Support your brain — the true driver of performance Whether you’re an athlete or simply chasing better metabolic health, this episode delivers the science and strategy to help you get leaner, stronger, and more metabolically fit. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Today’s guest is Dr. Paul Laursen — exercise physiologist, endurance coach, co-author of HIIT Science: The Science and Application of High-Intensity Interval Training, and co-founder of Athletica.ai. Dr. Laursen has coached athletes to 17 world championships, and his research on HIIT, metabolic flexibility, and low-carb nutrition has shaped how athletes and everyday people train for health and performance. In this episode, we cover: Why diet—not exercise—is the key driver of fat loss (and the clinical study that proved it) How being fat-fueled is actually a proxy for VO₂ max, a key marker of cardiovascular fitness and longevity The difference between burning carbs vs. burning fat during exercise — and why metabolic flexibility matters for performance and health How to use HIIT protocols strategically for fat loss, insulin sensitivity, and body recomposition without overtraining Why low-carb and very low-carb high-fat diets can supercharge fat oxidation, recovery, and cognitive clarity The role of ketones in appetite control, recovery, and brain performance Dr. Laursen’s top recommendations for training, nutrition, and recovery to optimize body composition and metabolic health Whether you’re an athlete, a weekend warrior, or someone looking to improve body composition and metabolic resilience, this conversation is packed with actionable strategies to help you get leaner, stronger, and more metabolically fit. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at Ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this Part 2 solo recap episode, Vanessa Spina continues breaking down her powerful conversation with protein pioneer Dr. Donald Layman—covering the second half of their in-depth interview on metabolism, insulin resistance, muscle maintenance during menopause, and the launch of a groundbreaking new Protein Quality Hub. If you’ve ever wondered how to structure your meals to maximize fat loss, support lean mass, and protect your metabolic health as you age—this is the episode you’ve been waiting for. 🔬 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • Why fasted workouts and AMPK activation can block muscle growth • How protein distribution and meal spacing impact fat loss • The link between muscle capacity and blood sugar regulation • Why most women need at least 100g of protein per day • How to pair carbs and protein in a 1:1 ratio to support metabolism • Stretch-based movement vs. heavy lifting for menopause muscle maintenance • What drives insulin resistance (hint: it’s not just carbs) • Why public health guidelines focus on survival—not optimization • The launch of Dr. Layman’s new Protein Quality Hub and how it can help you choose better protein sources Whether you’re in a fat loss phase, navigating perimenopause, or simply want to support long-term metabolic health, Dr. Layman’s research offers clarity and actionable steps you can start applying today. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook  👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl  •🔗 Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and decollete  and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA  • Tone Collagen  Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast.  Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen. 📲 Stay Connected with Vanessa: Instagram: @ketogenicgirl ⭐️ If You Loved This Episode… Please consider leaving a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps more women discover the truth about protein, strength, and sustainable fat loss!
Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ—clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. In Part 2 of this powerful interview, legendary protein researcher Dr. Donald Layman returns to the Optimal Protein Podcast to unpack some of the most misunderstood concepts in nutrition today—and to reveal potential groundbreaking changes to the U.S. dietary guidelines around protein, red meat, saturated fat, and carbohydrates. Dr. Layman breaks down what the science actually says about protein dosing, timing, oxidation, and muscle uptake—and who truly needs to worry about protein distribution. Vanessa and Dr. Layman also discuss: 🔬 Why protein timing matters more after age 30 🍽️ Why your first meal of the day may be the most critical for muscle preservation 🧠 Protein synthesis as a major driver of metabolism—and how it’s as energy-demanding as an hour of cardio 🔥 How high-protein diets increase fat loss by up to 300 calories per day via thermogenesis 🧬 AMPK, insulin, and muscle protein synthesis: what happens during fasted workouts and calorie restriction 💪 Why “lifting heavy” isn’t required—yoga, stretching, and muscle tension can preserve muscle as we age 🥩 The truth about red meat, saturated fat, and decades of flawed epidemiology 🧮 Dr. Layman’s 100g protein minimum for women, and why 1.2–1.6 g/kg is the sweet spot for recomposition 🌾 Why current global nutrition guidelines are built around survival—not optimal health—and how that’s changing 🌍 His new open-access protein quality hub to empower consumers and scientists alike This conversation is essential listening for anyone serious about optimizing their fat loss, preserving muscle, and finally understanding how protein quality and quantity affect long-term metabolic health. 🔗 Mentioned in the Episode: Dr. Layman’s new protein quality database  Muscle Full Effect & importance of protein distribution in aging Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at Ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Jump to start of the episode: 13:30 In this Friday solo episode, Vanessa Spina breaks down the first half of her latest interview with Dr. Donald Layman — legendary protein researcher and one of the most featured guests in the history of the Optimal Protein Podcast. They cover game-changing updates to U.S. dietary guidelines, red meat’s misunderstood role in metabolic health, and the science of protein timing for fat loss and body recomposition. Whether you’re over 30, in a fat loss phase, or simply looking to optimize your protein intake, this episode is packed with insight. 🔬 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • Why the 10% saturated fat cap may be removed from dietary guidelines • How red meat got falsely blamed for chronic disease • Why plant-based proteins are not nutritionally equivalent to animal proteins • The leucine threshold and how it changes with age • Why breakfast should be your most anabolic meal • How high-protein meals increase energy expenditure • Stretch-based resistance (like yoga and Pilates) vs. heavy weights for muscle preservation • The truth about meal distribution and muscle protein synthesis (MPS) • Real-world protein targets and strategies for fat loss This is Part 1 of a two-part solo recap. Tune in next Friday for Part 2 where Vanessa explores Dr. Layman’s take on the new Protein Hub, essential amino acid requirements, the role of insulin and AMPK in fat loss, and optimal carb intake by training status and age. Links mentioned: ➡️ Ketone IQ – 30% off subscription + free gift with second shipment: https://ketone.com/VANESSA ➡️ TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer – 20% off with code VANESSA ➡️ Tone Luxe Red Light Therapy Collection – 20% off with code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook  👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl  • Tone Collagen - Save 15% with a Subscription Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast:  Link to join the facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen. 📲 Stay Connected with Vanessa: Instagram: @ketogenicgirl ⭐️ If You Loved This Episode… Please consider leaving a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps more women discover the truth about protein, strength, and sustainable fat loss!
Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ—clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. This week on the Optimal Protein Podcast, I’m thrilled to be joined once again by Dr. Don Layman, one of the world’s foremost experts in protein metabolism and amino acid science. In this first part of our two-part conversation, we take a deep dive into the true definition of protein quality, the flaws of current scoring systems, and the metabolic significance of leucine as a primary trigger for muscle protein synthesis. Dr. Layman also introduces the EAA-9 protein quality model, a new way of evaluating protein sources that takes into account the body’s exact essential amino acid requirements—moving beyond methods like PDCAAS. Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask Ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA We also discuss: Why protein quality should be defined by amino acid content, not nitrogen How leucine “shows up in nature” in exact ratios that muscle recognizes The four key signals muscle responds to: energy, leucine, insulin, and IGF-1 What activates and suppresses mTOR, and why AMPK shuts down MPS in low energy states How protein turnover drives up to 20% of your resting metabolic rate The concept of metabolic prioritization and what happens when your diet lacks adequate EAAs Why the term “protein requirement” is misleading—and why we actually have amino acid requirements Dr. Layman’s response to the 100 g of protein study on protein distribution  A preview of what’s really happening during fat loss, and how muscle preservation strategies can make or break long-term success This episode is a masterclass in muscle metabolism, protein science, and the tools you need to optimize your nutrition—especially for fat loss and body recomposition. 🎧 Stay tuned for Part 2 next week, where we explore updated USDA guidance, insulin’s role in MPS, essential amino acid supplementation, and Dr. Layman’s go-to blueprint for maintaining muscle in a calorie deficit. 🔗 Mentioned in the Episode: Dr. Layman’s new protein quality database  Muscle Full Effect & importance of protein distribution in aging Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide  Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.
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Sheila Bowen

Thoroughly enjoyed the episode on Protein Leverage. Found it very interesting and helpful!

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Sheila Bowen

#281 will not download to listen to and I'm so disappointed!

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Melissa Meyer Roberts

great podcast! so much knowledge packed into the hour plus.

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Marie Gonzales

Thank you so much for your knowledge and willingness to share it!

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Julie Garten-Stevenson

Loved this episode. Dr. Berry is my fave!

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Emilie Kyle

Sound quality for commercials is better than the sound quality during the show.

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Marie Gonzales

Thank you!

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Whitney Lee

loved this one! x

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