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Every Monday, Kris Zellner and David Bixenspan go over how a given week in professional wrestling history was covered by the wrestling media, primarily in the "dirt sheet" newsletters. The deepest dive into wrestling history that you can find.

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Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was January 6-12, 2010. Topics of discussion include:The immediate aftermath of TNA going head-to-head with WWE on January 4th and the politics behind the scenes regarding pushing Spike TV to give TNA a live weekly Monday night time slot.Jeff Jarrett's role in TNA being up in the air again.TNA airing a replay of the January 4th show in it's normal slot, which featured a bunch of both expected and unexpected edits changing the presentation from the live broadcast.Brian Kendrick explaining why he was fired from WWE.Vince Russo being Vince Russo in an interview.Kenta Kobashi getting surgery as his days as an active wrestler are numbered.NOAH getting rid of some of their more tenured talent as the business is changing in Japan.News on the premiere of Wrestlicious and how this promotion came to be.Randy Orton "assaults" a fan at a restaurant…or does he?Ted “The Trailer” McNaylor gets his head shaved on Smackdown at the behest of CM Punk.Mike Tyson guest hosts Raw and actually technically is in the main event, teaming with Chris Jericho against DX, and you can guess what happened there.2010 being 16 years ago is damn crazy, and we had a lot of fun looking backm so we hope you have as much fun listening!Timestamps:0:00:00 TNA1:03:53 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, BJPW, DDT, Dragongate, JWP, Oz Academy, AAA, CMLL, IWRG, & IWAPR1:49:57 Classic Commercial Break1:53:39 Halftime2:29:58 Other USA: JAPW, ROH, ICP/JCW, Dragongate USA, & Wrestlelicious2:53:12 WWETo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Ep. #538: January 2-7, 1988

Ep. #538: January 2-7, 1988

2026-01-1203:37:02

Kris and David ARE BACK!!!!! after our battles with the epic Winter 2025-2026 Flu and discussing the (almost-)week that was January 2-7, 1988. Topics of discussion include:Andre the Giant attacking Hulk Hogan after his match with King Kong Bundy on an otherwise not very newsworthy episode of Saturday Night's Main Event to heat up their match in prime time on The Main Event a month later.King Kong Bundy and his job as the celebrity spokesman for Vendex Head Start Computers, which allowed him to more or less retire from wrestling Curt Hennig defending his AWA World Title in AJPW…in disappointing fashion, at least according to insiders.NJPW kicking off the first ever Top of the Super Juniors tournament with a LOADED lineup of talent.ICW trying to heat up an Iron Sheik vs. Georga Skaaland feud of all times.Renegade Tobacco getting heavily involved with Jarrett Promotions, complete with a press conference on TV.Shawn Michaels being completely hammered on live TV as he’s going off on Scott Hall and Ken Wayne.Jerry Lawler and Bill Dundee talk about their friendly rivalry and the importance of the Lord of the Ring…ring.World Class starting to heat up with Ken Mantell is back in power.JCP TV starting to get spiced up as Lex Luger is catching fire as a babyface and they experimented with taping the TBS show on the road.Ric Flair accosting photographer Linda Roufa for a TV promo, which was quite the 1988 moment.This was a damn fun show and it's great to get back in the saddle again!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF0:48:23 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, All-Star, Stampede, & WWC1:07:55 Classic Commercial Break1:13:58 Halftime1:41:06 Other USA: WOW, Continental, CWA/Memphis, WCCW, Wild West, AWA, Central States, & Portland 2:55:24 Jim Crockett PromotionsTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Later than we intended thanks to the flu, here’s what was supposed to be stopgap content over the holidays. Make sure to check out the latest Patreon shows, and be on the lookout for the return of the weekly show this Monday. Now, for the original show descriptions:—Part 1:It’s Thanksgiving, and you know what that means: A new Patreon deep dive, this time looking at the first ridiculous startup promotion of the post-WCW era, John Collins’ Main Event Championship Wrestling. And since he was right in the thick of things, we’re joined by our dear from Beau James (@kingofkingsport) throughout this first part (of two, with another episode coming in December). Topics include the initial buzz that Beau heard before the news of the startup broke publicly, Collins paying his guys to appear at shows promoted by Beau and others that he was making zero dollars from, various ridiculous interviews that Collins gave on radio shows, Bill Behrens, Mike Samples, and others publicly warning everyone about Collins’ sketchiness, the MECW “TV taping” at the ECW Arena being made a free show at the last minute, Collins doing a TV pilot taping there in the first place after already having shot a separate pilot, Terry Taylor publicly flirting with a job in MECW, all of the drama with Buff Bagwell refusing to do a job for then-NWA World Heavyweight Champion Steve Corino, and much more.Like we keep saying: John Collins is like putting Paul Heyman/ECW, Herb Abrams/the UWF, and Olu Olalyemi/Joe Pedicino/the GWF in a blender. You do NOT want to miss this show. Happy Thanksgiving!Part 2:It’s that time of the month, and you know what that means: The second anf final part of our deep dive into the utter disaster that was Main Event Championship Wrestling, John Collins' post-WCW/ECW startup. Topics include everything going to hell after the big "TV taping" at the former ECW Arena, flights to Evansville being cancelled and Collins blaming Paul Heyman when he just hadn't paid for them, an amazing (and lengthy!) lesson in promoting towns from Beau, Collins self-destructing on a conference call with Tod Gordon, Bob Ryder, and Dave Scherer, wrestlers showing up at Collins' home to demand their money, the simultaneous rise of fellow nebulous startups Super Fed and WrestleXpress, Collins harassing Crimson Mask from the Wrestling Classics Message Board on AOL Instant Messenger, Collins "having a heart attack" more than once, MECW's backer being under court order not to spend money since before MECW was even announced, Collins working as a heel manager on shows syndicated by Bill Behrens while Bill's own promotion has a heel doing a Collins parody gimmick, Terry Taylor's "Torch Talk" interview, Collins' SECOND promotion, the Torch's year-end quiz, Collins going to federal prison thanks to MECW, and MUCH more. This is an amazing show and we hope you enjoy it!Timestamps:0:00:00 Prologue & July 20011:55:15 Early August 20013:14:08 Late August 2001 (and Beau's lesson in local promotion)5:11:35 September 20016:19:55 October 2001 and beyondTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles as we discuss the month of December 1990 in the world of the newly-renamed World Championship Wrestling and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:Ole Anderson's last TV as booker of the NWA/WCW scoring surprisingly very good Nielsen ratings.Ty Detmer winning the Heisman Trophy.The TV shows all dropping the NWA name and becoming WCW-branded shows.Konnan, The Minotaur, and Larry Cameron make their debuts working TV tapings.The power of The Simpsons as Christmas rolls around.Ric Flair being attacked by Teddy Long's hired goons when Long served as Flair’s “chauffeur for a day.”The best WCW Family Feud segment.An in-depth look at Starrcade ’90, featuring the Pat O'Connor Memorial Tag Team Tournament and Ric Flair being revealed as The Black Scorpion.Kindergarten Cop and how that changed the game for Arnold Schwarzenegger.Will Dusty Rhodes actually become WCW’s head booker?The WCW TV Title consuming the lives of Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, Terry Taylor, and Tom Zenk.Jim Cornette's legendary Christmas poem in the Observer.…and much more. This was a great show and a great close to a wild 1990!---To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week-plus that was December 17-24, 2000. Topics of discussion include:Raw and Smackdown featuring a TON of Vince McMahon soap opera with neither show having much wrestling of note, all while ratings are declining.The Rock and The Undertaker becoming WWF Tag Team hampions for a one day title change that nobody remembers.Road Dogg being extremely thin ice due to his personal issues.New Japan and all of their political issues with both Shinya Hashimoto and Motoko Baba.NOAH having its best match to date in the form of Jun Akiyama vs. Kenta Kobashi at Ariake Colosseum.Just how “Bangable” was Survival Tobita?The greatness of Toryumon.Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Ryan Gracie headlining a newsworthy PRIDE card.Akira Maeda attacking a female RINGS employee.The final ECW Arena show for ECW.Dave Meltzer talking about the future of “The Prototype” John Cena in UPW.A completely insane WCW section featuring the final Starrcade, DDP and Scott Steiner getting into a backstage fight, Kevin Nash being political as hell, and some wacky clips.This was a tremendous show, so we hope you enjoy it. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:02:44 Int’l: NJPW, NOAH, BattlARTS, Survival Tobita, Toryumon, PRIDE, Tokyo Sports Awards, AJW, Arsion, GAEA, NEO Ladies,CMLL, IWRG, Neza, Tijuana,& Puerto Rico2:15:57 Classic Commercial Break2:21:51 Halftime with Mark Wolf tribute3:00:28 Other USA: ECW, NWA Wildside, NWA Worldwide, Memphis Power Pro, UPW, & UrbanWA3:37:09 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are joined by Beau James (@KingofKingsport) and Robert O'Connor (@ghostofquinones) to discuss the week-plus that was December 10-17, 1993, our annual holiday spectacular dropping just in time for Chanukkah!!!! Topics of discussion include:Ted Turner giving a state of WCW speech to the company staff for the first time ever.WCW officially firing Sid Vicious and Davey Boy Smith and how that affected creative plans.Terry Funk and potential assistant Eddie Gilbert being rumored to be coming in to replace Dusty Rhodes as WCW’s head booker(s).Paul Roma turning heel on Erik Watts to join Paul Orndorff and The Assassin.Big year-end shows from NJPW and WAR.Akira Hokuto announcing her retirement.The tragic death of Larry Cameron after suffering a mid-match heart attack in Germany.Terry Funk introducing his “Few Good Men” in ECW.What exactly down at the infamous SMW show in Wise, Virginia via as the Torch’s very detailed, well-reported cover story.Eddie Gilbert returning to the USWA on a show where Jerry Lawler and Brian Christopher also introduce the fans to “Bertha,” a.k.a. Bert Prentice in Dolly Parton-themed drag to counteract Toni Adams at ringside.How new TV censorship guidelines could affect the WWF and pro wrestling in general.Vince McMahon sitting down with Owen Hart on TV to talk about his issues with his brother, Bret.Hulk Hogan is the Leader of the Gamg (He Is).This was a CLASSIC show, and we hope that everyone has a great holiday season!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WCW1:17:52 Int’l: NJPW, WAR, Michinoku Pro, SPWF, FULL, UWFi, Akira Hokuto, AJW, India, WWS, Larry Cameron, CWA, CMLL, & UWA2:16:04 Classic Commercial Break2:20:25 Halftime2:55:07 Other USA: IWC (Skoler), ECW, PWF (Stallion/South), SMW, USWA, Big D, & GWF5:45:51 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the (almost-)week that was December 4-8, 1998. Topics of discussion include:The WWF running their second UK-only PPV. Capital Carnage, featuring crazy promos from the McMahons, special ringside enforcer Vinnie Jones being A Hard Man, and evem some nudity.Jim Ross finding out about his mother’s death while in England, stressing him to such a degree that he suffered his second attack of Bell's Palsy during the PPV.Steve Austin getting "crucified" (symbolified?) by The Undertaker on a wild episode of Raw.AJPW and NJPW finishing off their annual tag league tours.The WCW vs. WWF promotional war ventures down to Mexico as WCW talent begin working at Arena Mexico just as WWF Super Astros launches on Univision in the U.S.Another WCW talent raid of ECW.Roller Jam taping their first shows, which feature quite a bit of pro wrestling influence.Nitro does major business at the Astrodome in Houston…and puts on one of the worst episodes of the show in its history.Terrible skits and short matches featuring horrendous booking abound on that Nitro, so yes, this is a definite MUST-LISTEN WCW section.This was a thoroughly entertaining show, so please take a listen!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:56:55 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, BJPW, FMW, IWA Kokusai, Michinoku Pro, MUGA, SPWF, Wrestle Yume Factory, Arsion, & CWA2:24:49 Classic Commercial Break2:29:31 Halftime3:05:44 Mexico: AAA & CMLL3:23:55 Other USA: USA Pro, IWF (NJ), ECW, MarylandCW, MEWF, NWA Mid-Atlantic, OMEGA, Don Fargo, OVW, Music City, Power Pro, Wrestling Superstars 2000, & Roller Jam4:04:21 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back as we discuss the partial week that was November 27-December 1, 1986 which means THANKSGIVING WEEK!! Topics of discussion include:Starrcade ’86 with a full rundown of everything that went down in both Atlanta and Greensboro, featuring Ric Flair vs. Nikita Koloff, the Midnight Express vs. Road Warriors scaffold match, Dusty Rhodes vs. Tully Blanchard in a first blood match, Paul Jones becoming a BALD-HEADED GEEK, and so much more.“Bullet” Bob Armstrong making his return to WTBS after 2 years away to help his son Brad against Bill Dundee and Jimmy Garvin.Bruiser Brody issuing a grandstand challenge to Antonio Inoki.Bob Roop getting fired as the booker in Florida.The Fabulous Ones returning to Memphis, which pisses off the Rock ’n’ Roll RPM's.Jonathan Boyd showing tbe world his New Zealand Death Box on TV, much to Lance Russell’s consternation.Fritz Von Erich battling Abdullah the Butcher at Reunion Arena and why Bruiser Brody was there even though he wasn't booked.Saturday Night's Main Event headlined by Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts. Andre the Giant giving us an update from London after he gets reinstated.All of the big Thanksgiving shows from around the country.This show was pretty damn awesome in our opinion, and we hope that you agree!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 Jim Crockett Promotions1:27:30 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, Stampede, EMLL, UWA, & WWC1:43:54 Classic Commercial Break1:47:46 Halftime2:44:08 Other USA: NWF, Deep South, CWF, Continental, CWA/Memphis, UWF, WCCW, AWA, & Portland4:07:57 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Center Stage Chronicles is back as Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles to discuss the month of November 1990 in the National Wrestling Alliance and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:How pending Turner Broadcasting cutbacks will affect the wrestling division.Graffiti Bridge being the true sequel to Purple RainRic Flair putting up his yacht and Rolls Royce against Doom's tag titles.The end of the NWA name being used on TV.Just who the hell is the real Magnum Force, anyway?Madonna releases Justify My Love and the controversy is about to get big.The series finales of Charles In Charge and Pee Wee's Playhouse.WCW and NJPW reach a deal to co-promote a Tokyo Dome show.A wacky as hell Clash of the Champions featuring some terrible matches and a Black Scorpion magic show.The birth of Michael Wallstreet and the York Foundation.Milli Vanilli gets exposed and they pay the price, losing their Grammy Award for Best New Artist.Ole Anderson gets fired as head booker and Dusty Rhodes rumors start to run rampant as a result..This show was a total blast, so we hope you will enjoy it!!!To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week that was November 19-25, 2004. Topics of discussion include:Two years into their ownership of TNA, Panda Energy is facing major losses and may have to sell the company.Jerry Jarrett reportedly winning a power battle over his son Jeff and replacing him as the head booker with Dusty Rhodes in a move that also means that Vince Russo's power diminishes in the promotion as well.Johnny B. Badd and Randy Savage both showing up on TNA Impact in a wild time in the promotion's history.Some wacky Vince Russo interviews as well which have to be heard to be believed.The end of the original incarnation of Zero-One, as Shinya Hashimoto closes the doors due to some major financial losses.Konnan making his return to AAA and how big of a deal that was..Big shows from IWA Puerto Rico featuring some big names.Sabu almost dying after a serious virus ravaged his body.CM Punk cutting a shoot promo on Rob Feinstein during an IWA Mid-South show while wearing a Perverted Justice shirt, which ended up driving a fresh wedge between Punk and Ian Rotten.The story of Jerry Lawler's house almost being robbed by a Memphis cop.The early teases of Batista/HHH breaking up on a Raw that also featured the wild Shelton Benjamin/Trish Stratus parody of the controversial Terrell Owens/Nicolette Sheridan skit that served as Monday Night Football’s cold open a week earlier.A Big Show Thanksgiving on Smackdown featuring a crazy promo by Luther Reigns and a food fight to boot.This was an extremely fun show, so check it out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 TNA1:44:39 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, Zero-One, Hustle, Apache Army, BJPW, Michinoku Pro, Osaka Pro, PWC, Pro Wrestling Nightmare, Winger Produce, NEO Ladies, & EPW2:22:19 Classic Commercial Break2:26:26 Halftime2:57:42 Other North America: IWS, AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, Luchamania, IWAPR, & WWC3:21:21 Other USA: Sabu, USA Pro, 3PW, Chikara, NWA WildsideTMW, IWAMS, Bart Sawyer, Jerry Lawler, WLW, & OVW4:00:50 WWETo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week-plus that was November 9-17, 1991. Topics of discussion include:WWF tests for steroids for the first time at a TV taping right before a big pieces about the steroid scandal were set to air on Entertainment Tonight and two Inside Edition.The end of Ric Flair using the “Big Gold Belt” on WWF TV.Hulk Hogan getting attacked by The Undertaker in the Funeral Parlor as the top feud is shifted from Hogan-Flair to Hogan-Undertaker.The stacked list of teams in AJPW’s Real World Tag League.Ultimo Dragon and American Love Machine make their CMLL debuts in the same weekend.National Geographic Explorer spotlights Lucha Libre on TBS, especially Fray Tormenta and Super Barrio.Jeff Jarrett teases a heel turn, The Grave Digger and Spirit of America debut, and lots more wackiness on USWA TV.The Saga of "The Boss" takes a sharp turn in the Global Wrestling Federation thanks to surprising real life pressures.How Magic Johnson’s announcement that he was HIV+ affected wrestling in the immediate aftermath.WCW's Bruise Cruise attracting lots of female fans.…and much more. We’ve got a strong show this week, folks, and the halftime segment is one for the books, too, as we go over the 2025 Observer Hall of Fame inductees and lots more!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF2:19:47 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, SWS, FMW, Universal Lucha Libre, W*ING, Catch Fans Int’l, &CWA2:42:25 Classic Commercial Break2:47:53 Halftime: WON HOF Results & More Edition4:18:08 Latin America: EMLL, Monterrey, Arena Naucalpan, National Geographic Explorer, UWA, & WWC4:52:39 Other USA: IWCCW, UWF (Abrams), John Arezzi, WWA (NJ), TWA, VWA, SAPW, ICWA, USWA, GWF, Portland, & Torch Annual6:36:42 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was November 3-9, 1985. Topics of discussion include:The wacky Paul Jones/Superstar Billy Graham breakupThe official debut of Miss Atlanta Lively.Larry Zbyszko interviewing new AWA World Tag Team Champions Jimmy Garvin and Steve Regal on his In This Corner segment.The first ever Riki Choshu vs. Jumbo Tsuruta singles match takes place…but it’s technically on a Japan Pro show, not an AJPW show.Some great clips from very early in the Stampede Wrestling revival, featuring the original Dan Kroffat manipulating the heels and Bruce Hart being suspended pended by evil referee Ron HayterJust who is The Bullet?Bill Dundee forcibly cuts Jerry Jarrett's hair on Memphis TV.Ric Flair shows up in Mid-South and has a big confrontation with Butch Reed on TV.Percy Pringle joins Rick Rude in World Class and changes his character from his Florida days to avoid comparisons to Gary Hart.Early Shawn MIchaels in Texas All-Star Wrestling as one half of American Force with the very not American Paul Diamond.Don Owen fires a WWF spy that was in his locker room.Wrestlevision Presents: The Wrestling Classic, the first-ever WWF show to be specifically produced for pay-per-view and not closed-circuit television.Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage begin their feud on TV with an angle that features the definitive “heel Elizabeth” moment. Bruno Sammartino goes into Piper's Pit at the Boston GardenThe British Bulldogs hire a new manager. No, not Matilda. That’s later.This is just the tip of the iceberg on this great show, so you don't want to miss it!!Timestamps:0:00:00 JCP, PWUSA, & AWA1:18:52 Int’l: AJPW/Japan Pro, NJPW, All-Star (UK), Dale Martin, Stampede, All-Star (BC), EMLL, & UWA1:48:55 USA East: Ann Gunkel, Florida, Continental, & CWA/Memphis3:17:39 Classic Commercial Break3:23:34 Halftime4:17:08 USA West: Mid-South, Houston, WCCW, TASW, Central States, & Portland5:19:25 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back this week as we discuss the week that was October 28-November 3, 2002. Topics of discussion include:Hulk Hogan leaving WWE again due to "creative issues" with Vince McMahon over the plans for him to job to Brock Lesnar a second time.The aftermath of the Katie Vick angle and the total disaster of an opening segment on Raw the next week where HHH did terrible “comedy” with an alleged mannequin in a cheerleader uniform.Randy Orton debuts "RNN” on Raw.SmackDown has its famous Halloween party episode where John Cena basically has a career saving performance dressed as Vanilla Ice and Eric Bischoff kisses Stephanie McMahon.Keiji Muto shakes up the foreign crew in AJPW.NOAH holds their first annual Halloween show at Differ Ariake.Dustin "Screech" Diamond showing up at an ECWA show.IWA Mid-South holds the first "Ted Petty Invitational,” taking the place of the existing Sweet Science 16 tournament.The Ultimate Warrior goes off on Bill Goldberg in a wacky blog.Panda Energy officially taking over NWA-TNA, including what that means for Jerry Jarrett and Vince Russo as far as their futures in the company.Some wacky clips from the week’s TNA PPV, including Brian Lawler "assaulting a fan" and Don West losing his mind shilling the next show.Really fun show and we hope you enjoy!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWE1:50:06 Eastern Hemisphere: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, Zero-One, BJPW, DDT, Goto-Ippa, Osaka Pro, Toryumon, WEW, AJW, JWP, NEO Ladies, AustralianWF, All-Star, & RSW2:16:49 Classic Commercial Break2:21:02 Halftime3:06:06 Other North America: Stampede, AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, & IWAPR3:21:18 Other USA: Nicole Bass, SSCW, DDP, ECWA, PWF (PA), NWA Wildside, IPW (FL), IWAMS, Jimmy Hart, & Ultimate Warrior3:48:46 NWA-TNATo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles as we discuss the month that was October 1990 in the National Wrestling Alliance and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:The saga of the two Black Scorpions working house shows.Herb Abrams' UWF Fury Hour making it's TV debut.Beverly Hills 90210 debuts on Fox and television was never the same.Gordon Solie enters the Black Scorpion's lair.Two big angles shot in Chicago to promote Halloween Havoc air on TV.The Motor City Madman and The Big Cat are coming.NWA action figures headed to stores for Christmas.Is Bobby Heenan talking to Jim Herd?What the hell is going on with Barry Windham?Terrible attendances at house shows is becoming a regular thing.A full rundown of the very newsworthy Halloween Havoc PPV.Jim Cornette and Stan Lane quit the promotion just days later after a major blowup with Ole Anderson.This was a tremendous show, so we hope you enjoy!!!To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week-plus that was October 16-23, 1995. Topics of discussion include:Hulk Hogan losing his mind as Darkside Hogan on two Monday Nitros, including the infamous promo where he compared himself to O.J. Simpson just a few weeks after his acquittal in his murder trial.Ric Flair and Sting finally get on the same page as they get ready to battle Arn Anderson and Brian Pillman at Halloween Havoc.Akira Maeda issues a grandstand challenge to Keiji Muto.Televisa and AAA seemingly reaffirm Televisa’s ownership stake in the promotion and what that meant for CMLL on their network.The ECW TV debut of Buh Buh Ray Dudley as well as the very first "Pulp Fiction" segment.The Halloween Scream tour bombs hard for Smoky Mountain Wrestling.Gen. Jim Cornette hypes up about the soon to be debuting Sgt. Rock.Lance Russell has his first dealings with Bob Armstrong and the SMW crew since the start of the SMW vs. USWA feud, featuring Eddie Marlin making his return to TV to avenge Randy Hales.AAA runs a show in Chicago that features Paul Heyman running the locker room and crossing paths with Sabu for the first time in several months.J.R. Benson’s northern California version of Incredibly Strange Wrestling definitely lives up to it's name.In Your House 4 in Winnipeg, featuring Shawn Michaels giving up his Intercontinental Title to Dean Douglas…who then loses it to Razor Ramon.Diesel and Davey Boy Smith have a disappointing main event that motivates Vince McMahon to storm off when the PPV goes off the air.Al Snow debuts as Avatar on Raw, while Goldust makes his in-ring debut at the PPV.Exactly how badly and how egregiously the WWF handled the issue of if Michaels would wrestle on the PPV, including how much they deliberately false advertised him for the show.This was a strong show folks, so don't miss out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WCW1:35:34 Int’l: AJPW. NJPW, WAR, BJPW, Michinoku Pro, Wrestle Yume Factory, RINGS, CatchWA, Stu Hart, AAA, CMLL, & WWC2:15:51 Classic Commercial Break2:20:03 Halftime2:59:19 Other USA: ECW, Steel City, SMW, USWA, AAA, CWA (TX), & ISW (NorCal)4:13:44 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
It’s Observer Hall of Fame season, and you know what that means: With Kris having to take the week off, David figured this would be a good week of a HOF show, so he’s joined here by our dear friend John Pollock of POST Wrestling to go over the ballot! The focus is on new/returning candidates and our ballot shortlists for the most part to keep our sanity, but there’s a ton of ground covered, with topics including:David’s new research into the Von Erichs and how it affects their candidacy as a group.Decoding the criteria as it applies to teams vs. singles acts.The underrepresentation of historically marginalized groups in the HOF.Junkyard Dog getting unfairly made out to be a far inferior candidate than he actually is in a lot of HOF discussions.Sabu’s case coming into focus in the aftermath of his death.What’s the threshold for high level in-ring longevity candidates like the Briscoes, Masaaki Mochizuki, and Meiko Satomura?Between last year’s inductions of CIMA and Shingo Takagi and this year’s addition of Mochizuki to the ballot, is it time to put a lot more focus on Dragongate candidates, whether individually or as groups?Is Becky Lynch’s candidacy losing stream?Did CM Punk deliberately sabotage AEW, and if so, how does that reflect on his otherwise strong case for induction?The Randy Orton problem: Right now, it’s easy to make the case for why he’s a weak candidate. Will voters lost sight of that years down the line?Batista needing reconsideration under the current rule set when he’s a far superior candidate to almost everyone else on the modern U.S./Canada ballot.Did Cody Rhodes’ pec injury rob him of the credit he deserves for being the catalyst for the 2020s WWE boom period?Aew we overvaluing in-ring work when it comes to candidates like Tiger Jeet Singh?Trying to figure out the areas where the WON HOF should be more like the Rock ’n’ Roll HOF than sports halls of fame, including whether or not feuds should be considered as much of an “act” as tag teams are since it’s all a work.The problem with candidates like Zane Bresloff and Rossy Ogawa where we’re largely relying on a friend or two to make the case for them. The glut of candidates like Morris Sigel, Bobby Bruns, and Roy Welch that arguably shouldn’t be up to a vote in the first place.The rise of “non-standard” candidates like Jim Johnson and Reggie Parks.Mike Tenay arguably having much more actual stylistic influence on the style taken up by successor announcers than Jesse Ventura did.Dave Brown being unfairly punished for being the sidekick of the GOAT, Lance Russell despite being an HOF-level announcer himself and fans in the Memphis territory tending to put them over as a team.…and much more. Enjoy!To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
It’s Monday, and you know what that means: A new Between the Sheets with J.D. Oliva joining Kris and David to discuss 1989! Topics of discussion include:Saturday Night’s Main Event featuring the return of ZEUS.The WWF debuts in England with the famous London Arena show that aired live on Sky One as part of their latest European tour.Jim Troy getting fired after his fight with Koko Ware on the same tour.Steve Beverly giving his suggestions to remedy WCW’s early weak points, some of which sound oddly familiar in 2025.Bret Hart’s discussions with WCW that didn’t go anywhere.Antonio Inoki getting stabbed during a speech.A Florida independent promotion is trying to go public. Again. But this time it’s the PWF.The dying days of Continental TV.Memphis attendance bottoming out.Tim Brooks’ NAWA holds its first TV taping at the Longhorn Ballroom and soundly outdraws what the USWA had been doing at the Sportatorium.All that and much more this week, with J.D. doing a great job in the guest chair.Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:14:36 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, FMW, Stampede, EMLL, & UWF1:39:21 Classic Commercial Break1:44:26 Halftime2:13:55 Other USA: PWF, Continental, CWA/Memphis, USWA (TX), NAWA (TX), & Portland3:33:57 NWA/WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Ep. #527: October 1-7, 2007

Ep. #527: October 1-7, 2007

2025-10-0605:14:46

Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was October 1-7, 2007. Topics of discussion include:Nigel McGuinness winning the ROH Title from Takeshi Morishima and why it happened when it did.Larry Sweeney's role in ROH and how it could've been even better.A wacky Dixie Carter conference call to hype up the first ever two hour episode of TNA Impact, which was wall to wall, full-on insanity topped off by a great review from Bryan Alvarez in F4W.The saga of Leticia Cline and how she found her way back to TNA.The official end of Dream Stage Entertainment.The first ever Antonio Peña Memorial Show in AAA.El Hijo del Santo hooks up with the World Boxing Council in to promote shows in Mexico.The Dream Reunion convention, naturally, turning into a nightmare.John Cena tearing his right pectoral muscle and having to relinquish his WWE Championship, thus sending the following Sunday’s No Mercy PPV into a state of flux.Raw, ECW, Smackdown, and No Mercy all have a wild and wooly week in the realm of WWE TV.The story of CM Punk meeting Tony Atlas in OVW and what a story that was.This was quite the damn show, folks, so you better not miss this one!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 ROH0:34:27 TNA1:47:44 Japan: Dream Stage Entertainment, Tadao Yasuda, NOAH, BJPW, DDT, Dragongate, El Dorado, FUCK!, Ganko Pro, KAGEKI, Osaka Pro, Riki Office, UWAI Station, NEO Ladies, Sendai Girls, & Pro Wrestling Sun2:06:55 Classic Commercial Break2:10:25 Halftime2:37:33 Other North America: AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, Tijuana, Hijo del Santo/WBC, FTW (MA), NWA Anarchy, IWA East Coast, JuggaloCW, & Dream Reunion convention2:56:12 WWETo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
It's time for another episode of Center Stage Chronicles as Kris Zellner is back with Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles to discuss the month of September 1990 in the world of the National Wrestling Alliance and in pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:The weird saga of Barry Windham in late 1990.The debuts of the New York and Chicago-centric versions of NWA Pro Wrestling.The Black Scorpion's domination of all of the TV shows.RUNNING THE GAUNTLET beginning on the TBS shows.Clash of the Champions XII: Mountain Madness popping an amazing, record-breaking TV rating, plus a full rundown of the show.Rocky King becoming LITTLE RICHARD MARLEY.The Master Blasters and Maximum Overdrive both debuting on TV…and then POOF! A member of each team disappears.The beginning of the Doom’s feud with Arn Anderson & Ric Flair.The 1990 MTV Video Music Awards....nuff said...Jake “Body By Jake” Steinfeld becoming a big deal in pop culture.The debut of Fox Kids’ Saturday morning lineup.Vanilla Ice hitting the pop music scene.Fresh Prince of Bel Air and Law & Order both debut on NBC in the same week.COP ROCK debuting on ABC and thus birthing a legend.Plus more movies, TV shows, albums, and of course wrestling discussion in quite the damn episode of CSC.To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was September 22-28, 1996. Topics of discussion include:WWF In Your House: Mind Games goes down in Philadelphia, headlined by the legendary Shawn Michaels title defense vs. Mankind, plus the first ECW "invasion" of the WWF with Paul Heyman, Tommy Dreamer, AND The Sandman causing some trouble during the PPV opener.Monday Night Raw the next night in Hershey featuring Jim Ross's infamous "shoot promo” where "Razor Ramon returned" and Taz making his first appearance in the WWF as part of the "invasion."We also talk about the genesis of the WWF/ECW angle, why it was happening, and how it affected Dennis Coralluzzo’s NWA New Jersey promotion.AJPW’s foreign talent morale not in a good place as the Can-Am Express are getting ready to to go to the WWF.NJPW and WCW hold a tournament om Ja[am featuring some interesting matches and a serious injury to Ric Flair.Terry Funk creates the Funk Masters of Wrestling stable in FMW.Problems mounting in AAA between Konnan and Antonio Peña over the direction of the company.Randy Hales quitting his job as the booker and general manager of the USWA.Scott Bowden shooting a big angle with a local Memphis sports radio host.The Road Warriors showing up in Paul Alperstein's AWF.The nWo take over Monday Nitro as Kevin Nash roasts Jim Powers in amazing fashion,, The Giant becomes the World's Tallest Ring Announcer, Hulk Hogan cons the Nasty Boys, and we get get the WCW debut of Mike Jones as Vincent.What a crazy show this was.....a total must listen show!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:39:22 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, WAR, BJPW, FMW, IWA Japan, Michinoku Pro, SPWF, Tokyo Pro, Wrestle Yume Factory, RINGS, AJW, ICW (BC), AAA, CMLL, & IWRG2:27:36 Classic Commercial Break2:30:53 Halftime3:11;34 Other USA: EWA (NY), NWA NJ, ECW, Steel City, USWA, & AWF (Alperstein)4:17:14 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Tony Botts

Bixenban

Jan 16th
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Tony Botts

great episode

Jan 15th
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Tony Botts

Next week

Jan 2nd
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Tony Botts

At least it prior to 1996, anything after that I don't care for. I prefer 1978~1990

Sep 25th
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Tony Botts

ass

Sep 18th
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Tony Botts

you can almost bet that if Beau James is a guest it's a hood year and a good episode.....

Aug 21st
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Tony Botts

good episode, check it out old school wrestling fans

Jul 11th
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Tony Botts

Big Bill Kasmire hits the ring

May 12th
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Tony Botts

you magnificent bastard

May 9th
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Tony Botts

Beau James always makes for a good episode

Apr 7th
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Tony Botts

Beau James THE KING OF KINGSPORT

Apr 4th
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Tony Botts

your my boy Blue

Mar 9th
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Tony Botts

Buzz Sawyer was a wildman

Feb 21st
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Tony Botts

good stuff

Jan 31st
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Tony Botts

Mike Miller is drunk....

Jan 2nd
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Tony Botts

Kip Frey

Dec 27th
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Tony Botts

Back Jones

Dec 19th
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Tony Botts

November 21-28, my first Thanksgiving as an adult.....

Dec 12th
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Tony Botts

Bix is the man

Nov 21st
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Tony Botts

John McAdams from Stick To Wrestling is the guest this week.

Oct 14th
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