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Between The Sheets
Author: Kris Zellner & David Bixenspan
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Every Monday, Kris Zellner and David Bixenspan go over how a given week in professional wrestling history was covered by the wrestling media, primarily in the "dirt sheet" newsletters. The deepest dive into wrestling history that you can find.
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Center Stage Chronicles is back as Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles to discuss the month of November 1990 in the National Wrestling Alliance and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:How pending Turner Broadcasting cutbacks will affect the wrestling division.Graffiti Bridge being the true sequel to Purple RainRic Flair putting up his yacht and Rolls Royce against Doom's tag titles.The end of the NWA name being used on TV.Just who the hell is the real Magnum Force, anyway?Madonna releases Justify My Love and the controversy is about to get big.The series finales of Charles In Charge and Pee Wee's Playhouse.WCW and NJPW reach a deal to co-promote a Tokyo Dome show.A wacky as hell Clash of the Champions featuring some terrible matches and a Black Scorpion magic show.The birth of Michael Wallstreet and the York Foundation.Milli Vanilli gets exposed and they pay the price, losing their Grammy Award for Best New Artist.Ole Anderson gets fired as head booker and Dusty Rhodes rumors start to run rampant as a result..This show was a total blast, so we hope you will enjoy it!!!To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week that was November 19-25, 2004. Topics of discussion include:Two years into their ownership of TNA, Panda Energy is facing major losses and may have to sell the company.Jerry Jarrett reportedly winning a power battle over his son Jeff and replacing him as the head booker with Dusty Rhodes in a move that also means that Vince Russo's power diminishes in the promotion as well.Johnny B. Badd and Randy Savage both showing up on TNA Impact in a wild time in the promotion's history.Some wacky Vince Russo interviews as well which have to be heard to be believed.The end of the original incarnation of Zero-One, as Shinya Hashimoto closes the doors due to some major financial losses.Konnan making his return to AAA and how big of a deal that was..Big shows from IWA Puerto Rico featuring some big names.Sabu almost dying after a serious virus ravaged his body.CM Punk cutting a shoot promo on Rob Feinstein during an IWA Mid-South show while wearing a Perverted Justice shirt, which ended up driving a fresh wedge between Punk and Ian Rotten.The story of Jerry Lawler's house almost being robbed by a Memphis cop.The early teases of Batista/HHH breaking up on a Raw that also featured the wild Shelton Benjamin/Trish Stratus parody of the controversial Terrell Owens/Nicolette Sheridan skit that served as Monday Night Football’s cold open a week earlier.A Big Show Thanksgiving on Smackdown featuring a crazy promo by Luther Reigns and a food fight to boot.This was an extremely fun show, so check it out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 TNA1:44:39 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, Zero-One, Hustle, Apache Army, BJPW, Michinoku Pro, Osaka Pro, PWC, Pro Wrestling Nightmare, Winger Produce, NEO Ladies, & EPW2:22:19 Classic Commercial Break2:26:26 Halftime2:57:42 Other North America: IWS, AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, Luchamania, IWAPR, & WWC3:21:21 Other USA: Sabu, USA Pro, 3PW, Chikara, NWA WildsideTMW, IWAMS, Bart Sawyer, Jerry Lawler, WLW, & OVW4:00:50 WWETo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week-plus that was November 9-17, 1991. Topics of discussion include:WWF tests for steroids for the first time at a TV taping right before a big pieces about the steroid scandal were set to air on Entertainment Tonight and two Inside Edition.The end of Ric Flair using the “Big Gold Belt” on WWF TV.Hulk Hogan getting attacked by The Undertaker in the Funeral Parlor as the top feud is shifted from Hogan-Flair to Hogan-Undertaker.The stacked list of teams in AJPW’s Real World Tag League.Ultimo Dragon and American Love Machine make their CMLL debuts in the same weekend.National Geographic Explorer spotlights Lucha Libre on TBS, especially Fray Tormenta and Super Barrio.Jeff Jarrett teases a heel turn, The Grave Digger and Spirit of America debut, and lots more wackiness on USWA TV.The Saga of "The Boss" takes a sharp turn in the Global Wrestling Federation thanks to surprising real life pressures.How Magic Johnson’s announcement that he was HIV+ affected wrestling in the immediate aftermath.WCW's Bruise Cruise attracting lots of female fans.…and much more. We’ve got a strong show this week, folks, and the halftime segment is one for the books, too, as we go over the 2025 Observer Hall of Fame inductees and lots more!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF2:19:47 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, SWS, FMW, Universal Lucha Libre, W*ING, Catch Fans Int’l, &CWA2:42:25 Classic Commercial Break2:47:53 Halftime: WON HOF Results & More Edition4:18:08 Latin America: EMLL, Monterrey, Arena Naucalpan, National Geographic Explorer, UWA, & WWC4:52:39 Other USA: IWCCW, UWF (Abrams), John Arezzi, WWA (NJ), TWA, VWA, SAPW, ICWA, USWA, GWF, Portland, & Torch Annual6:36:42 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was November 3-9, 1985. Topics of discussion include:The wacky Paul Jones/Superstar Billy Graham breakupThe official debut of Miss Atlanta Lively.Larry Zbyszko interviewing new AWA World Tag Team Champions Jimmy Garvin and Steve Regal on his In This Corner segment.The first ever Riki Choshu vs. Jumbo Tsuruta singles match takes place…but it’s technically on a Japan Pro show, not an AJPW show.Some great clips from very early in the Stampede Wrestling revival, featuring the original Dan Kroffat manipulating the heels and Bruce Hart being suspended pended by evil referee Ron HayterJust who is The Bullet?Bill Dundee forcibly cuts Jerry Jarrett's hair on Memphis TV.Ric Flair shows up in Mid-South and has a big confrontation with Butch Reed on TV.Percy Pringle joins Rick Rude in World Class and changes his character from his Florida days to avoid comparisons to Gary Hart.Early Shawn MIchaels in Texas All-Star Wrestling as one half of American Force with the very not American Paul Diamond.Don Owen fires a WWF spy that was in his locker room.Wrestlevision Presents: The Wrestling Classic, the first-ever WWF show to be specifically produced for pay-per-view and not closed-circuit television.Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage begin their feud on TV with an angle that features the definitive “heel Elizabeth” moment. Bruno Sammartino goes into Piper's Pit at the Boston GardenThe British Bulldogs hire a new manager. No, not Matilda. That’s later.This is just the tip of the iceberg on this great show, so you don't want to miss it!!Timestamps:0:00:00 JCP, PWUSA, & AWA1:18:52 Int’l: AJPW/Japan Pro, NJPW, All-Star (UK), Dale Martin, Stampede, All-Star (BC), EMLL, & UWA1:48:55 USA East: Ann Gunkel, Florida, Continental, & CWA/Memphis3:17:39 Classic Commercial Break3:23:34 Halftime4:17:08 USA West: Mid-South, Houston, WCCW, TASW, Central States, & Portland5:19:25 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back this week as we discuss the week that was October 28-November 3, 2002. Topics of discussion include:Hulk Hogan leaving WWE again due to "creative issues" with Vince McMahon over the plans for him to job to Brock Lesnar a second time.The aftermath of the Katie Vick angle and the total disaster of an opening segment on Raw the next week where HHH did terrible “comedy” with an alleged mannequin in a cheerleader uniform.Randy Orton debuts "RNN” on Raw.SmackDown has its famous Halloween party episode where John Cena basically has a career saving performance dressed as Vanilla Ice and Eric Bischoff kisses Stephanie McMahon.Keiji Muto shakes up the foreign crew in AJPW.NOAH holds their first annual Halloween show at Differ Ariake.Dustin "Screech" Diamond showing up at an ECWA show.IWA Mid-South holds the first "Ted Petty Invitational,” taking the place of the existing Sweet Science 16 tournament.The Ultimate Warrior goes off on Bill Goldberg in a wacky blog.Panda Energy officially taking over NWA-TNA, including what that means for Jerry Jarrett and Vince Russo as far as their futures in the company.Some wacky clips from the week’s TNA PPV, including Brian Lawler "assaulting a fan" and Don West losing his mind shilling the next show.Really fun show and we hope you enjoy!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWE1:50:06 Eastern Hemisphere: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, Zero-One, BJPW, DDT, Goto-Ippa, Osaka Pro, Toryumon, WEW, AJW, JWP, NEO Ladies, AustralianWF, All-Star, & RSW2:16:49 Classic Commercial Break2:21:02 Halftime3:06:06 Other North America: Stampede, AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, & IWAPR3:21:18 Other USA: Nicole Bass, SSCW, DDP, ECWA, PWF (PA), NWA Wildside, IPW (FL), IWAMS, Jimmy Hart, & Ultimate Warrior3:48:46 NWA-TNATo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles as we discuss the month that was October 1990 in the National Wrestling Alliance and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:The saga of the two Black Scorpions working house shows.Herb Abrams' UWF Fury Hour making it's TV debut.Beverly Hills 90210 debuts on Fox and television was never the same.Gordon Solie enters the Black Scorpion's lair.Two big angles shot in Chicago to promote Halloween Havoc air on TV.The Motor City Madman and The Big Cat are coming.NWA action figures headed to stores for Christmas.Is Bobby Heenan talking to Jim Herd?What the hell is going on with Barry Windham?Terrible attendances at house shows is becoming a regular thing.A full rundown of the very newsworthy Halloween Havoc PPV.Jim Cornette and Stan Lane quit the promotion just days later after a major blowup with Ole Anderson.This was a tremendous show, so we hope you enjoy!!!To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week-plus that was October 16-23, 1995. Topics of discussion include:Hulk Hogan losing his mind as Darkside Hogan on two Monday Nitros, including the infamous promo where he compared himself to O.J. Simpson just a few weeks after his acquittal in his murder trial.Ric Flair and Sting finally get on the same page as they get ready to battle Arn Anderson and Brian Pillman at Halloween Havoc.Akira Maeda issues a grandstand challenge to Keiji Muto.Televisa and AAA seemingly reaffirm Televisa’s ownership stake in the promotion and what that meant for CMLL on their network.The ECW TV debut of Buh Buh Ray Dudley as well as the very first "Pulp Fiction" segment.The Halloween Scream tour bombs hard for Smoky Mountain Wrestling.Gen. Jim Cornette hypes up about the soon to be debuting Sgt. Rock.Lance Russell has his first dealings with Bob Armstrong and the SMW crew since the start of the SMW vs. USWA feud, featuring Eddie Marlin making his return to TV to avenge Randy Hales.AAA runs a show in Chicago that features Paul Heyman running the locker room and crossing paths with Sabu for the first time in several months.J.R. Benson’s northern California version of Incredibly Strange Wrestling definitely lives up to it's name.In Your House 4 in Winnipeg, featuring Shawn Michaels giving up his Intercontinental Title to Dean Douglas…who then loses it to Razor Ramon.Diesel and Davey Boy Smith have a disappointing main event that motivates Vince McMahon to storm off when the PPV goes off the air.Al Snow debuts as Avatar on Raw, while Goldust makes his in-ring debut at the PPV.Exactly how badly and how egregiously the WWF handled the issue of if Michaels would wrestle on the PPV, including how much they deliberately false advertised him for the show.This was a strong show folks, so don't miss out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WCW1:35:34 Int’l: AJPW. NJPW, WAR, BJPW, Michinoku Pro, Wrestle Yume Factory, RINGS, CatchWA, Stu Hart, AAA, CMLL, & WWC2:15:51 Classic Commercial Break2:20:03 Halftime2:59:19 Other USA: ECW, Steel City, SMW, USWA, AAA, CWA (TX), & ISW (NorCal)4:13:44 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
It’s Observer Hall of Fame season, and you know what that means: With Kris having to take the week off, David figured this would be a good week of a HOF show, so he’s joined here by our dear friend John Pollock of POST Wrestling to go over the ballot! The focus is on new/returning candidates and our ballot shortlists for the most part to keep our sanity, but there’s a ton of ground covered, with topics including:David’s new research into the Von Erichs and how it affects their candidacy as a group.Decoding the criteria as it applies to teams vs. singles acts.The underrepresentation of historically marginalized groups in the HOF.Junkyard Dog getting unfairly made out to be a far inferior candidate than he actually is in a lot of HOF discussions.Sabu’s case coming into focus in the aftermath of his death.What’s the threshold for high level in-ring longevity candidates like the Briscoes, Masaaki Mochizuki, and Meiko Satomura?Between last year’s inductions of CIMA and Shingo Takagi and this year’s addition of Mochizuki to the ballot, is it time to put a lot more focus on Dragongate candidates, whether individually or as groups?Is Becky Lynch’s candidacy losing stream?Did CM Punk deliberately sabotage AEW, and if so, how does that reflect on his otherwise strong case for induction?The Randy Orton problem: Right now, it’s easy to make the case for why he’s a weak candidate. Will voters lost sight of that years down the line?Batista needing reconsideration under the current rule set when he’s a far superior candidate to almost everyone else on the modern U.S./Canada ballot.Did Cody Rhodes’ pec injury rob him of the credit he deserves for being the catalyst for the 2020s WWE boom period?Aew we overvaluing in-ring work when it comes to candidates like Tiger Jeet Singh?Trying to figure out the areas where the WON HOF should be more like the Rock ’n’ Roll HOF than sports halls of fame, including whether or not feuds should be considered as much of an “act” as tag teams are since it’s all a work.The problem with candidates like Zane Bresloff and Rossy Ogawa where we’re largely relying on a friend or two to make the case for them. The glut of candidates like Morris Sigel, Bobby Bruns, and Roy Welch that arguably shouldn’t be up to a vote in the first place.The rise of “non-standard” candidates like Jim Johnson and Reggie Parks.Mike Tenay arguably having much more actual stylistic influence on the style taken up by successor announcers than Jesse Ventura did.Dave Brown being unfairly punished for being the sidekick of the GOAT, Lance Russell despite being an HOF-level announcer himself and fans in the Memphis territory tending to put them over as a team.…and much more. Enjoy!To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
It’s Monday, and you know what that means: A new Between the Sheets with J.D. Oliva joining Kris and David to discuss 1989! Topics of discussion include:Saturday Night’s Main Event featuring the return of ZEUS.The WWF debuts in England with the famous London Arena show that aired live on Sky One as part of their latest European tour.Jim Troy getting fired after his fight with Koko Ware on the same tour.Steve Beverly giving his suggestions to remedy WCW’s early weak points, some of which sound oddly familiar in 2025.Bret Hart’s discussions with WCW that didn’t go anywhere.Antonio Inoki getting stabbed during a speech.A Florida independent promotion is trying to go public. Again. But this time it’s the PWF.The dying days of Continental TV.Memphis attendance bottoming out.Tim Brooks’ NAWA holds its first TV taping at the Longhorn Ballroom and soundly outdraws what the USWA had been doing at the Sportatorium.All that and much more this week, with J.D. doing a great job in the guest chair.Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:14:36 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, FMW, Stampede, EMLL, & UWF1:39:21 Classic Commercial Break1:44:26 Halftime2:13:55 Other USA: PWF, Continental, CWA/Memphis, USWA (TX), NAWA (TX), & Portland3:33:57 NWA/WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was October 1-7, 2007. Topics of discussion include:Nigel McGuinness winning the ROH Title from Takeshi Morishima and why it happened when it did.Larry Sweeney's role in ROH and how it could've been even better.A wacky Dixie Carter conference call to hype up the first ever two hour episode of TNA Impact, which was wall to wall, full-on insanity topped off by a great review from Bryan Alvarez in F4W.The saga of Leticia Cline and how she found her way back to TNA.The official end of Dream Stage Entertainment.The first ever Antonio Peña Memorial Show in AAA.El Hijo del Santo hooks up with the World Boxing Council in to promote shows in Mexico.The Dream Reunion convention, naturally, turning into a nightmare.John Cena tearing his right pectoral muscle and having to relinquish his WWE Championship, thus sending the following Sunday’s No Mercy PPV into a state of flux.Raw, ECW, Smackdown, and No Mercy all have a wild and wooly week in the realm of WWE TV.The story of CM Punk meeting Tony Atlas in OVW and what a story that was.This was quite the damn show, folks, so you better not miss this one!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 ROH0:34:27 TNA1:47:44 Japan: Dream Stage Entertainment, Tadao Yasuda, NOAH, BJPW, DDT, Dragongate, El Dorado, FUCK!, Ganko Pro, KAGEKI, Osaka Pro, Riki Office, UWAI Station, NEO Ladies, Sendai Girls, & Pro Wrestling Sun2:06:55 Classic Commercial Break2:10:25 Halftime2:37:33 Other North America: AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, Tijuana, Hijo del Santo/WBC, FTW (MA), NWA Anarchy, IWA East Coast, JuggaloCW, & Dream Reunion convention2:56:12 WWETo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
It's time for another episode of Center Stage Chronicles as Kris Zellner is back with Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles to discuss the month of September 1990 in the world of the National Wrestling Alliance and in pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:The weird saga of Barry Windham in late 1990.The debuts of the New York and Chicago-centric versions of NWA Pro Wrestling.The Black Scorpion's domination of all of the TV shows.RUNNING THE GAUNTLET beginning on the TBS shows.Clash of the Champions XII: Mountain Madness popping an amazing, record-breaking TV rating, plus a full rundown of the show.Rocky King becoming LITTLE RICHARD MARLEY.The Master Blasters and Maximum Overdrive both debuting on TV…and then POOF! A member of each team disappears.The beginning of the Doom’s feud with Arn Anderson & Ric Flair.The 1990 MTV Video Music Awards....nuff said...Jake “Body By Jake” Steinfeld becoming a big deal in pop culture.The debut of Fox Kids’ Saturday morning lineup.Vanilla Ice hitting the pop music scene.Fresh Prince of Bel Air and Law & Order both debut on NBC in the same week.COP ROCK debuting on ABC and thus birthing a legend.Plus more movies, TV shows, albums, and of course wrestling discussion in quite the damn episode of CSC.To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was September 22-28, 1996. Topics of discussion include:WWF In Your House: Mind Games goes down in Philadelphia, headlined by the legendary Shawn Michaels title defense vs. Mankind, plus the first ECW "invasion" of the WWF with Paul Heyman, Tommy Dreamer, AND The Sandman causing some trouble during the PPV opener.Monday Night Raw the next night in Hershey featuring Jim Ross's infamous "shoot promo” where "Razor Ramon returned" and Taz making his first appearance in the WWF as part of the "invasion."We also talk about the genesis of the WWF/ECW angle, why it was happening, and how it affected Dennis Coralluzzo’s NWA New Jersey promotion.AJPW’s foreign talent morale not in a good place as the Can-Am Express are getting ready to to go to the WWF.NJPW and WCW hold a tournament om Ja[am featuring some interesting matches and a serious injury to Ric Flair.Terry Funk creates the Funk Masters of Wrestling stable in FMW.Problems mounting in AAA between Konnan and Antonio Peña over the direction of the company.Randy Hales quitting his job as the booker and general manager of the USWA.Scott Bowden shooting a big angle with a local Memphis sports radio host.The Road Warriors showing up in Paul Alperstein's AWF.The nWo take over Monday Nitro as Kevin Nash roasts Jim Powers in amazing fashion,, The Giant becomes the World's Tallest Ring Announcer, Hulk Hogan cons the Nasty Boys, and we get get the WCW debut of Mike Jones as Vincent.What a crazy show this was.....a total must listen show!!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:39:22 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, WAR, BJPW, FMW, IWA Japan, Michinoku Pro, SPWF, Tokyo Pro, Wrestle Yume Factory, RINGS, AJW, ICW (BC), AAA, CMLL, & IWRG2:27:36 Classic Commercial Break2:30:53 Halftime3:11;34 Other USA: EWA (NY), NWA NJ, ECW, Steel City, USWA, & AWF (Alperstein)4:17:14 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the week that was September 14-20, 1988. Topics of discussion include:A very thorough look at the day-to-day dealings between Jim Crockett Promotions and Turner Broadcasting regarding the sale of JCP and the possible acquisition of World Class as well.An episode of World Championship Wrestling that never aired in real time because of the Atlanta Braves, but finally surfaced years later on WWE Network.The aftermath of Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard's departures from JCP to the WWF.Tommy Rich's heel turn in Jerry Blackwell's Southern Championship Wrestling gives the promotion a boost in ticket sales.The AWA tapes a few months’ worth of TV in Nashville, Louisville, and Memphis featuring some interesting happenings as the AWA, CWA, and WCCW build to Superclash III.Eddie Gilbert working a Bob Geigel Central States show booked by his father Tommy while "injured,” which spells the beginning of the end for him in Continental.Top Gun getting a shot at Ric Flair's NWA World Heavyweight Title in Portland in a rare non-JCP defense for this eras.The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers' big surprise for the WWF.’80's shows are always fun, and this is no different, so you better not miss it!Timestamps:0:00:00 Jim Crockett Promotions1:31:05 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW Animal Hamaguchi, Dale Martin, Ontario indies, Stampede, EMLL, & UWA1:42:41 Classic Commercial Break1:45:02 Halftime2:01:06 Other USA:SCW (GA), FCW, Global (FL), Continental, CWA/Memphis, AWA, WCCW, Central States, & Portland3:26:28 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back this week as we discuss the week that was September 11-17, 2000. Topics of discussion include: “Stone Cold” Steve Austin and Debra Marshall get married in Las Vegas.Eddie Guerrero invades the Playboy Mansion.Stephanie McMahon bumping like crazy on Raw.Tazz "quits" the WWF in a weird angle.AJPW and NJPW kicking their interpromotional feud up another level as Toshiaki Kawada shows up at a NJPW show.Nicole Bass getting arrested for biting a cop.ECW canceling some house shows.A gigantic and totally ridiculous WCW section featuring David Flair and Stacy Keibler's "wedding" on Nitro, Vince Russo's concussions, Paul Orndorff suffering a serious neck injury at Fall Brawl Mike Awesome’s alliance with Gary Coleman, and so much damn more.The WCW section is an all-timer, so you can't miss this show!!Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:27:58 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, BattlARTS, BJPW, DDT, FMW, IWA Kokusai, Osaka Pro, SPWF, Wrestle Dream Factory, AJW, Arsion, GAEA, JWP, CMLL, GWAS, IWRG, Monterrey, & IWAPR2:08:24 Other USA: Nicole Bass, ECW, NWA Wildside, IWAMS, MAW, NWA Worldwide, Memphis, Rev Pro (CA), UPW, & UrbanWF2:25:47 Classic Commercial Break2:29:52 Halftime3:17:08 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back as we discuss the week that was August 31-September 6, 1993. Topics of discussion include:The 1993 NWA Convention, featuring Dennis Coraluzzo wanting dates on the champion, Tod Gordon/ECW and Jim Cornette/SMW applying for membership, and forcing WCW's hand to remove the NWA name from the titles on their television shows.Sid Vicious walks out on WCW over steroid testing…and then comes right back without having to take a test.The newsletter panic over Dustin Rhodes possibly becoming not just WCW World Heavyweight Champion, but Unified WCW World Heavyweight Champion.Shane Douglas becoming a part-time wrestler and full-time teacher.Ted DiBiase becoming a world tag team champion in his first match back in AJPW.New Japan going to battle with Leon White over the Big Van Vader name."Mr. Danger" Mitsuhiro Matsunaga making his FMW debut.The Torch running a special feature that goes in-depth on Tod Gordon and ECW.“WWA President” Dennis Coralluzzo showing up on SMW TV.McMemphis running wild in the USWA.The aftermath of SummerSlam, including how WWF framed Lex Luger as the true winner.This was a blast of a show folks, so check it out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 NWA & WCW0:51:11 Eurasia: AJPW, NJPW, WAR, FMW, NOW, UWFi, AJW, Fuji TV, & CWA1:14:58 Classic Commercial Break1:18:08 Halftime1:52:22 Mexico: AAA, CMLL, & UWA2:01:29 Other USA: John Arezzi, ECW, SMW, USWA, & GWF3:31:47 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are joined by Scott Passner as we discuss the week that was August 23-29, 1992, a week that Scott requested with a $50 pledge on our Patreon page so he could join us for the WWF section. Topics of discussion include:SummerSlam ’92 and the build to the Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior match, which was pretty nonsensical until Pat Patterson returned, seemingly salvaging it in the process.WBF BodyStars getting cancelled, signaling the end of the WBF.The last show that Dave Meltzer attended on his 2+ week Japan tour.All sorts of lucha goodness.USWA and the WWF cement their working agreement with Jimmy Hart’s return to Memphis TV.Lots of wackiness as usual in the GWF.Erik Watts making his WCW debut.Paul E. Dangerously getting featured in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's gossip section.Cactus Jack interviewing Jake “The Snake” Roberts in a great segment on WCW Saturday Night that seemingly attempts to retcon a year-old storyline.…and a LOT more, as this ended up being a stacked show.Timestamps:0:00:00 WWF1:59:29 Int’l: AJPW, FMW, Oriental Pro, W*ING, UWFi, AJW, LLPW, AAA, CMLL, Blue Demon, Monterrey, UWA, & WWC2:39:15 Classic Commercial Break2:41:29 Halftime3:52:24 Other USA: IWF (MA), John Arezzi’s Weekend of Champions, WWA (NJ), ICWA, SMW, USWA, GWF, Big D, Angel of Death Produce, WCCW, WWA (CA), & Portland/CWUSA5:24:44 WCWTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Center Stage Chronicle is back as Kris Zellner is joined by Rob Naylor and Our Good Buddy Charles to discuss the month of August 1990 in the National Wrestling Alliance and pop culture in general. Topics of discussion include:The status of guaranteed contracts possibly coming to an end in the NWA.THE PEARL, The New Fantastics, Hector Guerrero, Ivan Koloff, Terry Taylor, and many others make debuts/returns as this month has all kinds of names making appearances.Sting having two different convention appearances end in some form of controversy.Jim Herd and Ole Anderson beefing over the usage of older talent.“Mean” Mark Callous, Paul Orndorff, and more leave the NWA.Speculation about The Black Scorpion starts kicking up.“Young Guns II,” “Air America,” “My Blue Heaven,” and more hit the theatres.Extreme's “Pornograffiti,” Prince's “Graffiti Bridge,” Alice In Chains' “Facelift,” and more ht the stores.The TV series adaptation of “Ferris Bueller” debuts on NBC.Iraq invades Kuwait and the Desert Storm Conflict has begun.All of this and TONS more on another strong episode of CSC.---To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are joined by Phil Schneider (@philaschneider) to discuss the week that was August 20-26, 1984. Topics of discussion include:The evolving nature of Jim Crockett Promotions with Dusty Rhodes fully installed as the new booker.Ole Anderson's Championship Wrestling from Georgia trying to find its footing as it starts taping TV at Techwood.Dory Funk Jr. switching places with Dusty, taking over the book in Florida at the peak of Kevin Sullivan's schtick, including Blackjack Mulligan trying to save The Lock.Eddie Gilbert and Tommy Rich feuding in Memphis on the heels of the WFIA Tag Team of the Year angle.The aftermath of the Junkyard Dog leaving Mid-South.Gary Hart returning to World Class as a babyface, feuding with Skandor Akbar.Southwest running "stripper matches" with actual legit wrestlers Susan Greene and Evelyn Stevens.The Road Warriors winning the AWA World Tag Team Titles.Dave Meltzer's love of Portland Wrestling and hatred of the WWF, especially after Vince bought Stampede.Mitsuharu Misawa making his debut in the Tiger Mask II gimmick…but is he being joined by another Tiger Mask to form the Tiger Mask Brothers?Bob Backlund showing up in NJPW after leaving the WWF, right after NJPW signs a big contract with the WWF to pay Vince a hefty booking fee.Brutus Beefcake making his TV debut while Dave Meltzer has no idea who he is and has some…interesting speculation about how he got his job.Hulk Hogan transforming “Mean” Gene Okerlund into a wrestler and showing off his protein drinks on TNT.This show was a BLAST!!!! to record and we hope you enjoy it as well.Timstamps:0:00:00 USA East: JCP, CWG, CWF, Southeastern, & Memphis1:18:46 USA West: Mid-South, WCCW, Southwest, St. Louis, Central States, AWA, & Portland2:37:27 Classic Commercial Break2:41:41 Halftime3:28:15 Int’l: AJPW, NJPW, AJW, Dale Martin, Maritimes (Dupree & Zinck), Montreal, Stampede, EMLL, & UWA4:16:24 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Kris and David are back to discuss the (almost-)week that was August 14-19, 1997. Topics of discussion include:Hardcore Heaven '97, ECW's 2nd ever PPV.....and boy, what a disaster this show was in so many ways. We go over all the details on and off camera including all of the "big surprises" on the show.WCW's volatile title situation as they are changing left and right.Sting making J.J. Dillon look like a fool yet again on Nitro.CMLL Japan not having a strong start.The tragic death of Plum Mariko and how it should've been prevented.Promo Azteca and CMLL talent jumping around.WWC Anniversario shows featuring the end of the Carlos Colon vs. Abdullah the Butcher feud.An update on Steve Austin's neck injury.Rick Rude links up with Shawn Michaels and Hunter Hearst Helmsley on Raw in the unofficial birth of D-Generation X.Rocky Maivia explains why he joined the National of Domination in his first ever heel promo on national television.All of this and so much more on a slam packed episode of BTS!Timestamps:0:00:00 ECW1:38:25 WCW2:01:08 Eurasia: AJPW, CMLL Japan, Takashi Ishikawa, Michinoku Pro, Wrestle Dream Factory, Pride FC, Plum Mariko, AJW, GAEA, LLPW, & CWA2:32:52 Classic Commercial Break2:37:39 Halftime3:37:18 Other North America: IWA (Condello), AAA, CMLL, IWRG, Promo Azteca, & WWC4:13:50 Other USA: IWA (NC), USWA, MAW (NorCal), APW, & Jeep Swenson4:38:06 WWFTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
We took a week off from the main show, and you know what that means: We’re keeping you busy with some older Between the Sheets Patreon content that we’ve now made available for free. This time, we decided to assemble the entire “FUCK SABU!” trilogy (originally Patreon episodes #43-#45), covering Sabu’s wild 1995, into one file for everyone to check out as a taste of what our Patreon-only deep dives are like. This is a great example, too, as we notice some very interesting things that the newsletters didn’t pick up on at the time, like Chris Benoit’s surprisingly obvious involvement in orchestrating the whole scenario.Want more content like this? Then sign up for the $5.00/month ($50.40/year if paid annually upfront) tier on our Patreon page and check out the back catalog that spans almost 9 years. This month, for August, the deep dive that we’ve started on is more 1995 content, covering Bill Watts’ brief stint booking the WWF. Also, don’t forget: From this point forward, regardless of if we’re doing a month-long deep-dive or a smattering of smaller topics, we now release weekly Patreon content, with the segments of the month-long deep dives getting dropped each week as we record them.Anyway, we hope you enjoy these shows, and now, here are the original show descriptions:Part 1:Since April is the 25th anniversary of Sabu being fired from ECW, we decided it was the perfect opportunity to take a deep dive looking at everything that happened surrounding that very memorable event. So that brings us to this month's special, part one of what should be at least two episodes looking at Sabu's 1995, from his signing with NJPW to his indie schedule to his troubles with ECW, climaxing with Sabu double booking himself the night of ECW's big Three-Way Dance card. How did Sabu end up booked in NJPW the same night as the ECW show on late notice, why didn't he just cancel one of the bookings, and how did the situation devolve from there?We look at all of this in-depth, as it was covered in the newsletters, where both Sabu and Paul Heyman were commenting in detail on the record. All that and much more, including Chris Benoit's apparent major role in the Sabu/ECW schism, the greatness of Murder Inc./Wolf Army in 1995 NJPW, Sabu getting maced while doing a run-in for Circle City Wrestling, Chris Zavisa as Sabu's house organ, the proliferation of "Best of Sabu" videotapes, the reemergence of Dennis Coralluzzo in Sabu's career, and much more.This is a GREAT show, with a *lot* of fascinating stuff that's never talked about. Here's looking forward to part two!Part 2:We're back to pick up where we left off in our journey through Sabu's 1995, starting a few weeks after his firing from ECW over the "FUCK SABU!" no-show, as he starts talking to WCW and wins the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship from Koji Kanemoto at the Fukuoka Dome. Things quickly take a turn, though, as Sabu *throws down the title while cutting a promo about how he's a heavyweight*, NJPW tries to pretend it never happened, Sabu drops the belt at the next major show, Sabu becomes one of the anchors of Kevin Sullivan's plan to build "two WCWs" for the Monday Nitro launch, and much more happens as we close out the show just before Nitro launches. But the real meat of this show is in the forgotten Observer report, in black and white and plain English, that Sabu and Paul Heyman came to a secret agreement on an ECW return months before the actual return happened, and how Taz must have been privy to it given his career prospects at the time.All that and much more on another fascinating chapter in the "FUCK SABU!" saga!Part 3:We're back to pick up where we left off in our journey through Sabu's 1995, finishing up the series as we cover the launch of WCW Monday Nitro through the release of the 1995 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards in January 1996. Topics include how quickly Sabu’s WCW run fell apart, the strange six month gap where Sabu stops teaming with the rest of Masahiro Chono’s Okami Gundan/Murder Inc. stable in NJPW, Sabu scrambling for ideas to make him a pushed heavyweight in WCW like bringing in The Sheik’s old United States Championship belt, The Sheik becoming Sabu’s agent, Sabu returning to Dennis Coralluzzo’s NWA New Jersey, Sabu becoming a transitional UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Champion, Konnan trying to court Sabu for AAA, Sabu returning to ECW the same day he worked for Dennis, a labyrinthian web of conflicting stories from Sabu and Heyman about how they worked out the return, Sabu “officially” being fired from WCW on their hotline, the WWF’s efforts to get Sabu for the 1996 Royal Rumble, and MUCH more. This is a fantastic end to the series and we hope you enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed recording it.Timestamps:0:09:00 December 1994-January 19950:40:11 February-March 19951:09:52 Week of April 3 & Week of April 10, 19952:04:29 Week of April 17, 19952:27:03 April-May 19953:14:04 June 19953:33:51 July 19954:02:51 August 19954:36:30 September 19955:19:37 October 19955:55:23 November 19956:43:38 December 1995 and beyondTo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you’re looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you’ve been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you’ll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you’re looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.You can also use code BTSPOD to save 25% on your first payment — whether paying month to month or annually — when you subscribe to Ultimate Classic Wrestling Network at ClassicWrestling.net!To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands






Bixenban
great episode
Next week
At least it prior to 1996, anything after that I don't care for. I prefer 1978~1990
ass
you can almost bet that if Beau James is a guest it's a hood year and a good episode.....
good episode, check it out old school wrestling fans
Big Bill Kasmire hits the ring
you magnificent bastard
Beau James always makes for a good episode
Beau James THE KING OF KINGSPORT
your my boy Blue
Buzz Sawyer was a wildman
good stuff
Mike Miller is drunk....
Kip Frey
Back Jones
November 21-28, my first Thanksgiving as an adult.....
Bix is the man
John McAdams from Stick To Wrestling is the guest this week.