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Welcome to the Mindful Marketing Podcast (formerly the Savvy Social Podcast) with your host, Andréa Jones.

Tune in every week as we redefine marketing playbooks to break free from what we should do so that we can scroll less, connect more, and grow together.
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It's the end of an era. In this episode, I share why the Mindful Marketing Lab is officially wrapping up and what's next.  This behind-the-scenes conversation dives into the lessons learned from six years of running a membership, the realities of change in marketing, and how I'm simplifying everything in my business moving forward.  From AI to evolving community spaces, this episode kicks off a four-part series on what the next phase of marketing looks like. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about: Why the Mindful Marketing Lab is closing The business and personal lessons learned How marketing has changed since 2020 Why simplicity beats complexity in 2026 What's next for this new chapter …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/383
You don't need a new tagline, you just need to know who you are.  In this powerful conversation with Dr. Rhonda Alexander, we talk about how to show up authentically in business when you've outgrown an old version of yourself. From letting go of performance and perfection to honoring your current season of life, this episode is about rebuilding your brand from a place of truth, confidence, and ease. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Why clarity starts with identity, not branding The difference between performing and being authentic How to navigate slow seasons and business doubt Listening to your body for aligned decisions Honoring your energy and current season of life …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: Dr. Rhonda Alexander is an award-winning author, strategist, speaker, and founder of SoulScribe Consulting & Publishing Co., where she helps high-achieving women transform their expertise into movements, books, and six-figure platforms rooted in their authenticity. With a doctorate in Strategic Leadership and a background in executive coaching, Dr. Rhonda is a trusted advisor to powerhouse women ready to pivot from success to legacy. Her work blends spiritual wisdom with business acumen, guiding women to build what's next without betraying who they are. Off stage, she's a devoted mama and chocolate lover, and her happiest place is anywhere near the ocean. Website: https://www.thedrrhonda.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedrrhonda Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drrhondaalexander  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedrrhonda    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/382
Consistency doesn't have to mean posting every single week.  In this episode, I sit down with Alesia Galati to talk about the seasonal approach to content and why batching your episodes or campaigns can actually give you more freedom. We dig into how to set guardrails for your capacity, what to do when burnout shows up, and why flexibility matters more than perfection in marketing.  This one's for you if you've been craving more space in your business. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: What a seasonal approach to content looks like How to batch without draining your creativity Guardrails that protect your time and energy Why flexibility matters more than rigid schedules How to repurpose content strategically across platforms …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: Alesia Galati is a podcast strategist and the founder of Galati Media, a full-service podcast management agency. Driven by her passion for audio storytelling, Alesia has helped numerous coaches, thought leaders, and businesses launch and grow their podcasts. She believes everyone has a story to tell and is dedicated to empowering others to share their voices with the world. Website: https://galatimedia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alesia-galati/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alesia.galati/   Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/381
Marketing doesn't have to be serious to work. In this episode, I chat with Jessica Santise (designer, event host, and creative behind Tales from the Back End Summit) about bringing fun, personality, and playfulness into your business.  We talk about turning small creative ideas (like GIFs and themed branding) into signature elements, why details make your brand memorable, and how to do marketing that feels 100% you. This one's for the creatives who want their business to feel like them. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: How Jessica built a business around creativity and fun Why branding the details matters more than perfection How to add playfulness without losing professionalism Bringing personal joy into your business brand Finding confidence to "do it your way" …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: I'm Jessica Santise, professional video editor and GIF creator with over 20+ years of experience and a background in digital marketing. I provide no-stress video editing for online business owners to help them create personality-packed videos their audience can't wait to devour. Website: https://jessicasantise.co/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicasantise/    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/380 
You don't need to be loud to be effective. In this episode, I sit down with Noah Vertefeuille, founder of Timber Marketing, to talk about email as a quiet but powerful tool for building trust.  We dig into how to make email feel personal, what to send when you've gone silent for a while, and why segmentation doesn't have to be complicated. Noah also shares his approach to weaving in stories so your emails feel more like conversations, and less like sales pitches. This is your reminder: trust builds best when it feels human. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Why email marketing works best as a conversation How to re-engage your list after silence Where to start with segmentation (without overwhelm) Story-driven emails that feel more human Why email is the core of your marketing strategy …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: Noah Vertefeuille is the founder of Timberbrook Marketing, a boutique agency helping small businesses grow through strategic, no-fluff marketing. Based in rural North Carolina with his wife and growing family, Noah blends entrepreneurial grit with a heart for service. His work is rooted in faith, family, and a deep belief that marketing done right should feel honest, human, and helpful. When he's not working with clients, you'll find him on his homestead, raising animals, chasing kids, and building a life that matters. Website: https://timberbrookmarketing.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/timberbrook-marketing/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCre4ZTDOWQXw9zKNATdzRrA  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nvertefeuille/    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/379  
If Instagram feels like it changes every five minutes, you're not wrong. In this episode, I break down what's actually working on Instagram right now—from reels and stories to dark social metrics—and what business owners should focus on heading into 2026.  We'll talk about Instagram's latest algorithm updates, the rise of DMs and discoverability, and how to build a strategy that's sustainable and human. If you've felt like you're constantly catching up with Instagram's changes, this episode is your reset. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  What Instagram's AI-powered algorithm really looks for The two placements performing best right now How to use DMs and "dark social" to grow trust Why shareability and watch time matter more than likes How to adapt your strategy without burning out   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/378
What if YouTube could be your simplest, most effective marketing tool?  In this episode, I sit down with YouTube strategist Jamar Diggs to talk about low-lift marketing content strategies that can bring leads to you without constant posting. Jamar shares how he uses YouTube to attract clients, why live streams are underrated, and how to avoid the "human errors" that make your videos less effective.  This conversation is packed with practical ways to make YouTube (and your content) feel easier. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Why long-form YouTube videos convert better than endless shorts What "low-lift marketing" actually looks like The mistakes experts make when creating content How live streams keep you top of mind Why YouTube isn't slow if you set it up right …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: Jamar Diggs is a YouTube Marketing Strategist for businesses who want to leverage YouTube to create a low-lift marketing strategy so they can make marketing only 10% of their focus. He takes his corporate marketing experience from working in large marketing departments like Homes.com and Forrent.com to help his clients create a content strategy and marketing system that will generate results for years. Website: https://jamardiggs.com  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JamarDiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamardiggs/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jamardiggs   Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/377  
Burnout is not a badge of honor.  In this episode, I share why I'm pushing back on hustle culture, what we can actually learn from creators like Gary Vee and Alex Hormozi, and why doing less often leads to better marketing. Instead of chasing every trend or posting six TikToks a day, I'll walk you through the framework I use to conserve energy, stay consistent, and still grow my business without sacrificing my sanity. If you've been craving consistency without burnout, this framework is for you. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  The real cost of nonstop content creation Lessons from Gary Vee, Alex Hormozi, and creator culture Why rest cycles are key to creativity The three pillars of my mindful marketing playground How to use energy budgeting to prevent burnout ...and more!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/376
If you've hired social media help but still feel like you're micromanaging, this episode is for you.  I'm breaking down why most "content problems" are actually systems problems, and how to set up simple processes that help your team succeed without you constantly stepping in. From creating a digital brain to outlining clear content flows, you'll learn how to move from micromanaging to truly supported. This is your reminder: with the right systems, your team can make your social media shine. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  Why most social media struggles aren't about content The systems that make outsourcing actually work How to create a digital brain for your business What to include in a brand guide (voice + visuals) The habits that make support easier for everyone ...and more!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/375
If holiday marketing makes you want to crawl under a blanket until January, you're not alone.  In this episode, I'm sharing a calmer, more mindful way to plan your Q4 marketing so it actually works without draining you. I'll walk you through the exact framework I use, the holidays I prioritize, and how I structure my sales to keep things simple. Plus, you can grab the free 2025 Holiday Marketing Handbook to help you map it all out. If you've been dreading Q4, this episode gives you a kinder way to do it. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  Why mindful planning beats last-minute chaos The 3-part framework I use for holiday marketing How to choose which holidays to prioritize Why social media sparks curiosity but email closes sales My simple Black Friday sale strategy   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/374
What do you do when trolls show up in your comments? After sharing a clip about inclusive marketing, I was hit with racist remarks and negativity.  Instead of letting it derail me, I'm breaking down how I handle comments like these, what boundaries I put in place, and why protecting your energy online matters more than ever. If you're creating content online and feeling the sting from a hateful comment or just need a reminder that you're not alone, this one's for you. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  Why negative comments sting (and why it's not personal) How to set boundaries and spot when they're crossed Practical steps I take when hate shows up Why your "energy budget" matters as much as your content calendar How to keep creating without letting trolls win   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/373
Sometimes growth looks like chasing a million-dollar year. Other times, it looks like letting go of old goals, finding joy in smaller seasons, and rewriting the rules to fit your life now.  In this episode, I'm reflecting on what changed after two babies, selling my agency, and shifting my business model, and why I'm more excited than ever about what's next. If you've ever felt like your business path had to look a certain way, this episode is your reminder that you can redefine success. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  What really shifted after baby #2 Why I sold my agency (and how I felt after) The realities of postpartum depression & business The business model that fits my current season What I'm focusing on next—and why it feels good   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/372
What if saying "for women" is actually turning away the very people you'd love to work with? In this episode, I'm diving into the nuances of gendered marketing and why I choose not to use gender-specific labels in my business. From real-life examples to practical shifts you can make, we'll unpack how inclusive marketing doesn't just feel better, it performs better too. Whether you're rethinking your own brand messaging or want to be more intentional with your language, this is a powerful starting point. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  How gendered marketing can quietly exclude your dream clients Why "marketing can't be neutral anymore" How inclusive brands like Dove and Fenty get it right The difference between being inclusive for women vs. only for women Practical ways to reflect your values in your marketing   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/371
More posts ≠ more progress. I'm sharing exactly what's working on social media right now—and what's not—so you can adapt your content to meet your audience where they are (without burning out in the process). We're covering real shifts in content behavior, algorithm changes, and how smart marketers are showing up differently in 2025. If you're frustrated with lower reach and engagement, this episode will help you understand why and what to do next. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  Why the attention economy has shifted (and what it means for your content) Why "educational" posts aren't hitting like they used to The difference between how-to content and how-I content The "middle tier content" that's fading fast What "high-concept, low-production" content actually looks like The real reason engagement has dropped (it's not you)   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/370
Ever opened Airtable or Asana and immediately closed it because your brain just said "nope"? Been there.  In this episode, I'm joined by systems expert Rachael Mueller for a real talk on how to make your tools work for you—not overwhelm you. We're diving into practical strategies that actually make your life easier (not more complicated). Whether you're drowning in post-its or juggling a million Google Docs, this convo is for you. If your to-do list lives in your head (and you've got 47 birthday party RSVPs to remember), this one's a must-listen. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: The one habit that will instantly make your brain feel lighter When to use automation—and when to skip it Why your system needs to match your personality What to do before you pick a new tool Why "comfort" systems might actually be slowing you down …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: Rachael Mueller is a Virtual COO + Systems Expert, helping service-forward business owners + founders optimize and grow their businesses through sustainable systems, and take back control of their time.  After transforming her first business in 2015 from a burnout black hole into a streamlined success, she never looked back! And has helped countless clients do the same behind the scenes.  When she's not helping visionary entrepreneurs banish overwhelm, you can find her in the kitchen whipping up a new recipe, or traveling the globe with her partner. She's also a firm believer that there is never "too much" guacamole, and that life is better after petting a furry friend. Website: https://heyrachael.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hey.rachael LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heyrachael   Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/369
A creepy collectible toy might not be your marketing inspo but hear me out. There's a reason Labubu is all over your feed. In this episode, I break down the wild obsession behind Labubu and what small business owners can learn from it. From building community to harnessing scarcity, this isn't just about trends… it's about staying memorable in a sea of sameness. If your marketing feels too safe or too forgettable, this is your nudge to do things differently. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  Why Labubu's weirdness works (and how to own yours) What makes something "obsession-worthy" in 2025 Storytelling and scarcity: the combo that sells Curated chaos vs. polished branding Why speaking to the heart still wins over logic   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/368
My favorite way to get new clients? It's not social media or email. It's referrals from friends. And that kind of trust doesn't just show up. It's built. In this episode, I'm joined by Jessica Abel, an artist-turned-business coach, to talk about relationship-based marketing—what it looks like, how it works, and why so many creatives struggle to sell their work. We also dig into business models, service-based offers, and how to rethink "sustainable" growth in your business.  If you're tired of trying to scale like an influencer and ready for something that actually supports your life, you'll love this one. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Why referrals outperform most marketing channels How to build a business model that fits your life The real reason courses and products are hard to sell What to do if you're burned out on content How introverts can still thrive with relationship marketing …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: Jessica Abel is a graphic novelist, author, and the founder of Autonomous Creative, where she helps accomplished creative professionals build businesses as brilliant as they are. Drawing on 30 years as a cartoonist and author combined with 10 years as a business owner, Jessica knows how to take someone's creative brilliance and turn it into an unconventional and profitable business. In other words, she's helping creatives do more than pay the mortgage. They're enjoying freedom from financial anxiety, time for their personal priorities, and doing truly meaningful work. Website: https://jessicaabel.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/autonomouscreative/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jccabel/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AutonomousCreative    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/367
If you're over making Instagram Reels that barely reach your audience, this episode is your permission slip to shift gears. I'm joined by SEO strategist and YouTube queen Mariah Magazine for a candid convo on why long-form content is having a well-deserved comeback—and how it can actually work for your business. We dig into her YouTube growth strategy, monetization, and how long-form content plays a bigger role in building authority (especially with AI).  Whether you're feeling stuck in the social media churn or just tired of content that disappears in 24 hours, this episode will shift how you think about content entirely. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Why long-form content is the real trust builder How Mariah monetizes tutorials and still books consulting clients What "brand authority" means in the age of AI The role SEO plays in getting found across platforms How to simplify your content ecosystem without burning out …And More!   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    About the Guest: Mariah is an award-winning SEO Consultant & Educator, YouTube Content Creator & host of a top 10% podcast; Curiously Guided. She's a firm believer that showing up on Google and organically marketing your business doesn't have to be as difficult & overwhelming as everyone makes it (which is what ultimately inspired her to start her YouTube channel in the first place!) – Since 2015, she's guided hundreds of clients and students to achieve page-one search results through actionable and practical strategies, ultimately inspiring them to take SEO into their own hands. Website: https://www.mariahmagazine.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mariahmagazineco/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/MariahMagazine LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariahmagazine/   Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/366
If the summer heat is draining your energy, your content shouldn't be doing the same. In this episode, I'm breaking down the 3 habits that are quietly sabotaging your marketing—and what to do instead. Because you can stay visible without chasing trends, obsessing over metrics, or posting daily just to keep up. Whether you're in a summer slump or just tired of the pressure, this episode will help you slow down, recalibrate, and market with more intention. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  Why posting every day is outdated advice When trends are helpful—and when they're just a distraction How over-tracking your metrics can stall your momentum The mindset shift that helps you stay consistent without burnout   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/365
What kind of content actually works when you're slowing down for the summer? In this episode, I'm breaking down 3 types of posts you can share during your summer slowdown. These aren't trendy or complicated—they're rooted in strategy, build long-term trust, and help you stay visible without burning out. Whether you're off traveling, spending time with family, or just need space from the algorithm, this is your content shortcut. In this episode of the podcast, I talk about:  The teaching-style post that positions you as the expert What it really means to "show your work" How to create values-based content that connects Why these three post types are perfect for building trust (while you rest)   This Episode Was Made Possible By: Riverside All-in-One Podcast & Video Platform Visit Riverside and use the code DREA to get 15% off any Riverside individual plan. We use it to record all our podcast interviews: https://onlinedrea.com/riverside    Go to the show notes for all the resources mentioned in this episode: https://onlinedrea.com/364
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Rosanna Bueler Mihoub

love this podcast, it gives really good practical advice that is brought in a really natural fun and interesting way ☺️

Jun 2nd
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Kim Laurence

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