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See You In Court is a podcast series that seeks to educate the public about the Georgia Civil Justice System and is a production of the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation.
The Georgia Civil Justice Foundation (GCJF) is a nonpartisan resource for anyone seeking to understand, preserve, or restore the basic functions of civil justice.
GCJF supports public education about the civil justice system and how to gain access to the civil justice system when it is needed. Our goal is to reach all Georgians with a message that presents civil justice as society’s means of assuring fair play for everyone.
The Georgia Civil Justice Foundation (GCJF) is a nonpartisan resource for anyone seeking to understand, preserve, or restore the basic functions of civil justice.
GCJF supports public education about the civil justice system and how to gain access to the civil justice system when it is needed. Our goal is to reach all Georgians with a message that presents civil justice as society’s means of assuring fair play for everyone.
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In this See You In Court short, David Windecher shares the vivid dreams he experienced while incarcerated. He saw himself in a courtroom wearing a suit and standing beside someone he was representing. These visions, paired with the pain he saw in his parents’ faces, pushed him to make the decision to walk out of jail and never return as a defendant.
Learn more about Rehabilitation Enables Dreams at https://www.stoprecidivism.org
Watch the full episode on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBsN_S9Dejw
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Hosted by Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate.
Presented by the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation.
David Windecher grew up on the streets of Miami-Dade County, arrested 13 times before the age of 19. His street name was “Red.”
In this powerful clip from See You In Court, David shares how he turned pain into purpose—rising from incarceration to the courtroom—and founded Rehabilitation Enables Dreams (RED) to help others do the same.
Watch the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBsN_S9Dejw
Learn more: https://www.stoprecidivism.org/
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David Lee Windecher is a trailblazing criminal defense attorney, author, and activist in the social justice movement to end mass incarceration, reduce recidivism and redress racial inequity in the criminal justice system.
In his autobiography The American Dream / HiSstory in the Making, David shares the harsh realities of growing up as an impoverished immigrant on the streets of Miami-Dade County. He was arrested 13 times and spent over 7 months incarcerated as a juvenile. He dropped out of high school and joined a gang for protection. His street name was Red. David endured the brutal climate of the lawlessness on the streets by both criminals and the police. All the while he dreamed of becoming a lawyer and fighting for those who don’t have the resources to pay for justice.
David began his path to self-rehabilitation when he earned his GED in March of 1998 and took his first academic steps toward his childhood dream of becoming a lawyer. He graduated Summa Cum Laude from American Intercontinental University in Fort Lauderdale, Florida in 2005 and earned his Juris Doctorate degree from John Marshall Law School in Atlanta, Georgia in 2012. David was admitted to the Georgia Bar in 2012 and the Florida Bar in 2014. David is a member of the Georgia and Florida Court of Appeals, the Georgia and Florida Supreme Court, the Northern District of Georgia United States District Court and the American Bar Association. David specializes in criminal defense, juvenile law, and expungement procedures. In 2022 the National Football League awarded him with the Inspire Change Changemaker Award.
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Rehabilitation Enables Dreams - https://www.stoprecidivism.org/
Lester Tate – http://www.akintate.com/
Robin Frazer Clark – https://www.gatriallawyers.net/
See You In Court – https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org
To learn more about the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation, visit https://fairplay.org
In this preview from tomorrow’s See You In Court episode, David Windecher recalls the moment he was sworn into the Bar in the same courthouse where he once faced 15 years in prison.
That experience became the turning point that inspired RED—Rehabilitation Enables Dreams, a nonprofit helping others rebuild their lives after incarceration.
🎧 Full interview premieres tomorrow.
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Would you hire a law firm that folds under pressure?
In this clip from See You In Court, Lester Tate and Lynne Borsuk discuss why true legal advocacy demands heart, strength, and courage—especially when representing unpopular clients. When large firms capitulate to outside pressure, it doesn’t just affect their reputation—it threatens the independence of the legal profession and chills advocacy across our system of justice.
Listen now and hear why Georgia lawyers are speaking out to protect the rule of law and the right to fair representation for all.
🎧 Full episode:
Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law with Seth Kirschenbaum and Lynne Borsuk
📺 Watch on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/nQlHvFy4O5k
Learn more: SeeYouInCourtPodcast.org
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“The rule of law is neither conservative nor liberal. It is entirely non-partisan — and it doesn't matter what your political beliefs are. We, as lawyers, are all committed to the rule of law.” – Lynne Borsuk
In this short clip from Episode 51 – Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law, Lynne Borsuk and Seth Kirschenbaum remind us that justice depends on our shared commitment to fairness and impartiality.
🎥 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/nQlHvFy4O5k
🌐 More episodes at https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/
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In this short clip, attorney Seth Kirschenbaum reminds us that speaking up for justice can come with risks—but silence carries far greater ones.
“There’s even potential danger for people that stick their heads above the parapet and say, ‘Wait a minute, what the administration is doing here is wrong and it violates due process or it’s an attack on the rule of law.’”
As part of the Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law, Kirschenbaum and more than 400 Georgia attorneys are standing together to protect judicial independence and uphold the rule of law across the state.
Listen to the full conversation featuring Seth Kirschenbaum and Lynne Borsuk, hosted by Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate:
🎧 Full Episode on Podbean
📺 Watch on YouTube
Learn more at https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org
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At the end of every See You In Court episode, we ask the same question: How do you define justice?
In this closing moment, attorney Lynne Borsuk shares clear definitions centered on fairness, equal treatment, and due process for everyone, regardless of wealth or background.
Watch the full conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/nQlHvFy4O5k
Listen to more episodes and resources: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/
Learn about Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law: https://georgialawyersfortheruleoflaw.org/
Guests
• Seth Kirschenbaum
• Lynne Borsuk
Hosts
• Robin Frazer Clark
• Lester Tate
About See You In Court
See You In Court is Georgia’s leading civil justice podcast from the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation. We share practical insights that help Georgians understand their rights and how to bring grievances before an independent court.
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The information in this episode is for educational purposes only. For legal advice, contact a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.
One of the warning signs of authoritarianism is fear—fear of criticizing the government, fear of speaking up. In this clip from See You In Court Episode 51, Seth Kirschenbaum shares why this fear is growing in our nation’s institutions, from law firms to universities, and why defending the rule of law depends on courage and accountability.
🎧 Listen to the full episode: Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law with Seth Kirschenbaum and Lynne Borsuk
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In this powerful moment from See You In Court, attorney Lynne Borsuk shares her deep disappointment with law firms that capitulated under political pressure, failing to uphold their professional duty to represent all clients — even the unpopular ones.
“In their fear, they’ve created a dynamic that is deeply unhealthy for our democracy. I disapprove of their capitulation. Time will show it was unwise to capitulate.”
This clip is a call to courage — a reminder that the rule of law depends on lawyers who stand firm, not those who bow to intimidation.
🎧 Watch the full episode on YouTube:
👉 https://youtu.be/nQlHvFy4O5k
🎙️ Listen on Podbean:
👉 https://seeyouincourt.podbean.com/e/georgia-lawyers-for-the-rule-of-law-with-seth-kirschenbaum-and-lynne-borsuk/
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Fear can silence even the strongest voices.
In this clip from See You In Court, attorney Seth Kirschenbaum shares how public pressure led one leader to reverse course—and why that moment reflects a growing climate of fear in America.
Co-host Lester Tate reminds us that while speaking up can feel risky, staying silent can be far more dangerous for the rule of law.
🎙️ Listen to the full episode:
👉 Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law with Seth Kirschenbaum and Lynne Borsuk
https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org
#SeeYouInCourt #RuleOfLaw #LegalCourage #CivilJustice #GeorgiaLawyers #SpeakingUp
Every court ruling has a winner and a loser — but our system has endured because people respected the rule of law. Today, that respect is under attack as judges face threats and intimidation.
In this clip from See You In Court, Lester Tate and Seth Kirschenbaum explain why judicial independence is at risk, and why Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law are stepping up to defend it.
🎥 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/nQlHvFy4O5k
🌐 Learn more at: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/
What happens when law firms give in to political pressure? In this clip from See You In Court, our guests explain why capitulating to the administration undermines the independence of the legal profession — and how clients are noticing.
Some firms have lost clients who asked, “If you won’t stand up for yourself, how can I expect you to fight for me?” Others have gained respect and trust by standing firm.
This conversation is part of our full episode:
🎧 Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law with Seth Kirschenbaum & Lynne Borsuk
👉 Watch here: https://youtu.be/nQlHvFy4O5k
👉 Listen here: https://seeyouincourt.podbean.com/e/georgia-lawyers-for-the-rule-of-law-with-seth-kirschenbaum-and-lynne-borsuk/
🔗 Learn more:
Georgia Lawyers For The Rule Of Law – https://georgialawyersfortheruleoflaw.org/
See You In Court Podcast – https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org
#RuleOfLaw #CivilJustice #LegalCourage #SeeYouInCourt
What makes America the “shining city on a hill”? According to our guests, it’s the simple but powerful fact that we are a nation of laws — not of men.
In this episode of See You In Court, hosts Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate sit down with Seth Kirschenbaum and Lynne Borsuk, founders of Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law. Together, they explore why the rule of law is the foundation of justice, why people around the world look to America for inspiration, and what’s at stake if we fail to protect our legal system.
This conversation goes beyond legal theory — it’s about safeguarding fairness, protecting judges and lawyers from unfair attacks, and ensuring that the Constitution continues to guide us toward a just society.
🎧 Listen now to be inspired — and reminded why the rule of law matters to all of us.
Watch & Listen:
▶️ YouTube Episode: https://youtu.be/nQlHvFy4O5k
🎙 Podbean: https://georgialawyersfortheruleoflaw.org/
See You In Court Podcast: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org
Georgia Civil Justice Foundation: https://fairplay.org
Follow Robin Frazer Clark: https://www.gatriallawyers.net/
Follow Lester Tate: http://www.akintate.com/
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When the rule of law comes under attack, who speaks up? In Georgia, more than 400 lawyers have come together to form Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law — the only statewide group dedicated to defending judges, lawyers, and the integrity of our justice system.
In this powerful episode of See You In Court, hosts Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate welcome Seth Kirschenbaum and Lynne Borsuk to share:
Why they launched this nonpartisan effort
How threats against judges and law firms erode confidence in justice
What ordinary citizens and lawyers alike can do to protect due process
Their message is clear: justice is not partisan — it’s the foundation of our democracy.
👉 Listen to more episodes here on Podbean and via our website at SeeYouInCourtPodcast.org
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Seth Kirschenbaum is a criminal defense attorney here in Atlanta with 50 years experience. He is an owner of his own firm Lotito & Kirschenbaum. He is extremely well known in the Atlanta Bar being a Past President of the Atlanta Bar Association and serving on the State Bar Board of Governors since 2004. He is a former Federal Prosecutor. He is the recipient of the 2008 Charles E Watkins Jr. Award for Distinguished & Sustained Service by Atlanta Bar Association and of the 2011 Randolph Thrower Lifetime Achievement Award. He has an award named after him, the Multi-Bar Leadership Council’s “Seth D. Kirschenbaum Diversity Award.” He received his B.A. from State University of New York at Binghamton, Binghamton, New York and received his J.D. from Emory University School of Law.
Lynne Borsuk is also a criminal defense attorney here in Atlanta. She is the owner of her own law firm, the LYNNE Y. BORSUK CRIMINAL DEFENSE AND WHITE-COLLAR CRIME law firm. Lynne is an experienced trial lawyer with 38 years of experience as an attorney in the courtrooms of Georgia. She focuses on criminal defense and white-collar matters with a strong emphasis on the trial phase of legal advocacy. Lynne was selected by her peers as a top trial lawyer and named a Fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers and as a fellow of the American Board of Criminal Lawyers.
Lynne has served as the President of the Georgia Association for Criminal Defense Lawyers. Lynne is the recipient of numerous awards, including the Indigent Defense Award from Georgia Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Women of Achievement Award, Jewish Federation of Atlanta for work with ADL and the Leadership Award .The Atlanta Bar Association. She received her B.A., Political Science, 1983 from Emory University and her J.D. 1986 from the University of Florida College of Law.
Links:
Protect the integrity of our legal system - Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law
Lester Tate - http://www.akintate.com/
Robin Frazer Clark - https://www.gatriallawyers.net/
See You In Court - seeyouincourtpodcast.org
To learn more about the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation, visit fairplay.org
What do Canadians find most surprising about the U.S. legal system?
In this clip, we discuss some of the biggest differences between the two countries’ approaches to justice. From the Second Amendment to the election of judges, hear why certain aspects of American law simply don’t “compute” for Canadian lawyers.
📺 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BXCnSHSSd6A
🎧 Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/
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In this short clip, Dean Ian Holloway recalls his sabbatical at Samford University in Birmingham—Judge Dillard’s alma mater—and reflects on the cultural ties between Canadians and the American South.
“Canadians aren’t more polite than Southerners… Southerners are traditionally thought of as being just as gracious.”
👉 Check out the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BXCnSHSSd6A
🎧 Listen on Podbean: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-ian-holloway-kc-the-undeniable-relationship-between-canada-and-the-united-states/
Did you know a Ford car can cross the U.S.-Canada border up to 10 times before it’s finished?
In this clip, Professor Ian Holloway underscores the deep integration between our economies and why cooperation is critical for both nations. He also raises concerns about a troubling perception shift—Canada as a greater threat than China or Russia.
🎙️ Listen to the full conversation here:
https://seeyouincourt.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-ian-holloway-kc-the-undeniable-relationship-between-canada-and-the-united-states/
As climate change reshapes the Arctic, the Northwest Passage has become a flashpoint. Russia and China are pressing for freedom of navigation, raising urgent questions about sovereignty, security, and defense spending.
Professor Ian Holloway, veteran and former Dean of Law at the University of Calgary, shares why Canada must step up alongside the U.S. to safeguard shared maritime resources.
🎧 Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourt.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-ian-holloway-kc-the-undeniable-relationship-between-canada-and-the-united-states/
Explore more episodes at: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/
During the New York Bar Exam, a test-taker suffered a massive heart attack. EMTs performed CPR and used a defibrillator—while proctors refused to stop the test. Students who tried to help were told they would not receive extra time.
Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate call this incident “disturbing” and question whether the bar exam has gone too far, prioritizing rigid rules over human compassion.
This clip comes from our full interview with Professor Ian Holloway, where we examine law, justice, and the values that must guide our profession.
🎥 Watch the full conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BXCnSHSSd6A
🎧 Listen to the full episode on Podbean: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gs5qjdd93du7snf2/See_You_In_Court-_Ian_Hollowayauydt.mp3
🔗 Visit us online: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/
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