Claim OwnershipThe Woodard Report Podcast: Featuring Heather Satterley and Joe Woodard
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On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with David Leary about the biggest shifts shaping the accounting profession such as the rollback of the 150-hour CPA requirement and how alternative pathways are already boosting the pipeline of new accounting graduates. They also dig into what AI is actually good for (and where it still fails without strong firm processes and human oversight), plus why private equity in accounting can create serious conflicts of interest, particularly for assurance-related work. About David Leary David Leary is the Co-Founder and COO of Earmark. He is an innovative and influential force in the small business accounting world with over 22 years of QuickBooks experience. Learn more about Earmark Connect with David on LinkedIn Thank you to our show sponsor, Zoho! Zoho is a unique and powerful software suite to transform the way you work, designed for businesses of all sizes, built by a company that values your privacy. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Tanya Hilts about how bookkeepers can move from compliance work into true advisory by leading with better questions, leaning into collaboration, and building confidence through real-time financial conversations. Tanya shares how AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity can help generate smarter client questions and speed up analysis, while emphasizing that the real "threat" isn't AI itself, but professionals who learn to use it well. About Tanya Hilts Tanya Hilts, CPB, FCPB is an award-winning accounting pro helping firms adopt practical AI, tighten processes, and grow profit-focused advisory. Connect with Tanya on YouTube and learn more about her "AI in Action" series Thank you to our show sponsor, Woodard! The Woodard membership program will help you build your ideal practice with our coaching, education, community and resources. We'll get you there with strategic direction from experienced pros, access to skill building and resources and a community to continually inspire your practice's transformation. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather speak about major January updates in the accounting space, including the IRS's Free File program and why Joe prefers a subsidized third-party prep model over direct IRS filing. They also dig into how large firms like RSM are rolling out tightly governed generative AI tools (like "Ask Luca"), and what that teaches smaller firms about AI quality being driven by both model capability and data control. Current events — IRS got rid of Direct File and is promoting Free File RSM lauched its own Generative AI Tool caled AskLuca TV/Movie quote of the week — Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery Your Honor Excellent things we learned — In the Room Where It Happens: Generative AI Policy Creation in Higher Education The JOLT Effect: How High Performers Overcome Customer Indecision Member spotlight — Jennifer Scott of HireEffect The Woodard Report article of the week — The Competitive Advantage of AI Training for Accounting Professionals Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy! Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather speak about early-2026 accounting and tech happenings, including new CPE training for Intuit Enterprise Suite, and why leaning into AI skills can create outsized professional value. Current events — Introduction to Intuit Enterprise Suite Training Rapid AI adoption with growing AI skills requirements TV/Movie quote of the week — Victoria House of David Excellent things we learned — Mind Magic: The Neuroscience of Manifestation and How It Changes Everything The ONE Thing: The Surprisingly Simple Truth About Extraordinary Results Member spotlight — Jodi Plett of Flexkeeper The Woodard Report article of the week — The Competitive Advantage of AI Training for Accounting Professionals Thank you to our show sponsor, CorpNet! CorpNet is the trusted leader in business formation and compliance services, offering one of the best tools for accountants, CPAs and tax professionals nationwide. The CorpNet Partner Program can 10X your firms revenue by helping clients form a business, register for payroll taxes, maintain compliance and more. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Nancy McClelland, CPA about her journey as the "Dancing Accountant" and how embracing authenticity, community connection, and people skills has shaped her firm and career. They explore the importance of trust, niching, and collaboration between bookkeepers and tax professionals. About Nancy McClelland, CPANancy The Dancing Accountant is a CPA on a lifelong mission to educate the professionals who support small businesses and their communities. She runs 'Ask a CPA', a Q&A membership for bookkeepers who want to learn to prepare "tax-ready" books; co-hosts "She Counts" (the real-talk podcast for women in accounting); was named Top CAS ProAdvisor; Top 50 Women in Accounting; Bridging the Gap Mentor of the Year; ToPS Speaker of the Year; and AICPA Global Women to Watch – you can check out her award-winning MSN column at thedancingaccountant.com. Thank you to our show sponsor, Woodard!The Woodard membership program will help you build your ideal practice with our coaching, education, community and resources. We'll get you there with strategic direction from experienced pros, access to skill building and resources and a community to continually inspire your practice's transformation. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Megan Tarnow about her journey as an "accidental accountant" who built a successful niche practice serving nonprofits and the unique challenges that come with pricing, staffing, and mission-driven work. Megan shares practical insights on why clean data, strong advisory relationships, and a controller-level mindset matter more than ever, especially as AI begins to reshape bookkeeping and analysis. About Megan Tarnow Megan Genest Tarnow is a long-time QuickBooks ProAdvisor with over 25 years working at the intersection of QuickBooks and nonprofits. Connect with Megan on LinkedIn Learn more about DaisyBee Consulting Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy! Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather speak about major shifts in the accounting profession, including new partnership and franchise models that are democratizing technology and intellectual property for firms of all sizes. They explore how innovation, hospitality-driven client experiences, and intentional generosity can help advisors stand out while navigating talent shortages and industry change. Current events — The 2025 top 100 most influential people in accounting Pilot anounced the launch of a partnership program with local, independent, bookkeeping practices TV/Movie quote of the week — The Diplomat Red Dragon Excellent things we learned — Flux: 8 Superpowers for Thriving in Constant Change Unreasonable Hospitality: The Remarkable Power of Giving People More Than They Expect Member spotlight — Ospino Consulting The Woodard Report article of the week — Holiday Generosity Without Turning Your Firm Into a Charity Thank you to our show sponsor, CorpNet! CorpNet is the trusted leader in business formation and compliance services, offering one of the best tools for accountants, CPAs and tax professionals nationwide. The CorpNet Partner Program can 10X your firms revenue by helping clients form a business, register for payroll taxes, maintain compliance and more. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Blake Oliver about his new book, Building a Sustainable Accounting Firm, and the shift from transactional, hourly-based accounting to outcome-driven, productized services. Blake explains how firms can escape the "transactional treadmill" by redesigning pricing, redistributing workload to reduce seasonality, and adopting recurring, standardized service packages that elevate client experience. About Blake Oliver Among many other things, Blake founded Earmark so listeners can earn continuing professional education credits for listening to his shows and many more accounting and tax podcasts. The goal of the Earmark app is to make it easy and fun for fellow CPAs to learn and earn CPE every week. Because if you learn every week, it's easy to get the hours you need without stress. And we could all use a little less stress in our lives. Connect with Blake on LinkedIn Learn more about the Earmark app Learn more about Blake's new book Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy! Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Dr. Rico D. Short about his remarkable rise from a single-parent household to becoming a world-class endodontist, author, and speaker, and how faith, mentorship, and identity shaped every step of his journey. They explore how finding your true identity and purpose, rather than comparing yourself to others, can unlock your greatest potential, and how perseverance through personal and professional adversity can transform both your life and leadership. About Dr. Rico D. Short Dr. Short is a board-certified endodontist, author, professor, and international speaker. He just published his 3rd inspirational book, Purpose Full, which can be found on Amazon at this link. His company is Apex Endodontics and he can also be found on LinkedIn. Dr. Short's YouTube channel is at this link Thank you to our show sponsor, Bill, your financial operations platform! Bill is the intelligent way to create and pay bills, send invoices, manage expenses, control budgets and access the credit your business needs to grow all in one platform. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather talk about major updates from Intuit, including its expansion of TurboTax service locations and the introduction of the new Intuit Account Suite. They also explore deeper themes, from how past experiences shape us, to generational perspectives on AI, to how firms can adapt strategically to a changing profession. Current events — Intuit Accounting Suite launch Intuit opening a total of 600 on premises locations throughout the U.S. TV/Movie quote of the week — How to Train Your Dragon IT chapter 2 Excellent things we learned — These 14 colleges offer bachelor's degrees in AI—including one Ivy League school Notion Member spotlight — Auburndale Bookkeeping The Woodard Report article of the week — Setting Up a Business for Spouses: Steps to Take Thank you to our show sponsor, Brex! Brex accounting partners close clients books faster, earn rewards for referrals and attract new customers all on Brex. Brex's integrated platform provides numerous accounting automation benefits, which enable your accountants to focus on premium advisory services, help clients close the books faster and elevate the overall client experience. To become a Brex accounting firm, visit brex.com/partners/accounting to apply. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Keila Hill-Trawick about how boutique accounting firms can thrive by prioritizing deep relationships, proactive communication, and intentional growth. Keila shares how Little Fish Accounting creates a high-touch client experience through streamlined processes, boundaries that protect team capacity, and a focus on year-round partnership rather than transactions. She and Joe also discuss why saying "no" to misaligned clients is essential to delivering consistently excellent service. About Keila Hill-TrawickKeila leads the strategy and vision at Little Fish Accounting, ensuring every client experience is personal, strategic, and rooted in real-world expertise. As a seasoned entrepreneur herself, she understands the unique challenges that come with building and scaling a business with a small, intentional team. Learn more about Keila at BuildToEnough.com Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy! Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Shirley Koss about the importance of human connection and vulnerability in the accounting profession. Shirley shares insights from her travels to industry events, where she's noticed how many professionals feel isolated in remote work environments. Together, she and Heather discuss ways to combat loneliness—through authentic communication, intentional outreach, and community engagement—reminding listeners that showing vulnerability and reaching out can strengthen both personal well-being and professional relationships. About Shirley Koss At Woodard, we believe that strong communities drive professional growth. Whether you're a CPA, tax preparer, bookkeeper or another accounting professional, the power of peer connection, continuous education and a strong support network can transform your practice. Shirley's mission is to help you maximize these opportunities, and she's eager to connect with all of you—both current and future members—to share ideas and grow the community. Shirley brings years of experience in building successful communities and ensuring member engagement, and her dedication to the success of professionals is clear. She understands the unique challenges accounting professionals face and is ready to help you navigate those challenges while taking your practice to the next level. Connect with Shirley Koss on LinkedIn Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy! Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe and Heather talk about the evolving accounting landscape including Anderson Group's bold IPO and Carbon's acquisition of AIDER AI. What do these moves signal about automation, workflow convergence, and private equity's growing influence? Current events — Tax firm Andersen to file publicly for IPO as soon as this week Karbon acquires Aider to deliver the future of AI-powered accounting and bookkeeping TV/Movie quote of the week — Heather mentioned the movie "The Greatest Showman" Joe mentioned both "Dune Prophecy" and "Lost in Space" Excellent things we learned — Magical AI: the text expander Member spotlight — Beth Whitworth presented by Kim Petro, Practice Advancement Coach at Woodard The Woodard Report article of the week — Confronting Self-Doubt: Accountants' Edge in an AI World Thank you to our show sponsor, Zoho! Zoho is a unique and powerful software suite to transform the way you work, designed for businesses of all sizes, built by a company that values your privacy. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Gail Crosley about how accounting firms can achieve sustainable, profitable growth through strategy rather than chance. Gail breaks down the difference between opportunistic and strategic growth, using her "fishing" analogy to show how narrowing focus, identifying ideal client profiles, and evaluating market conditions lead to lasting success. She also explains how firms can adapt when industries shift and reveals her three key elements of growth. Service, channel, and target can help firms thrive organically rather than through mergers. About Gale Crosley Gale Crosley, CPA, CGMA, is a well-known strategic revenue growth consultant, who has helped almost 500 CPA firms over the past 20+ years. She has worked with their managing partners and other leaders to transform their firms to high growth environments, achieving exceptional organic growth. Nine of the top 20 fastest organically growing firms in the past year are, or have been, her clients. For 18 consecutive years she's been recognized as one of the Top 100 Most Influential People in Accounting by Accounting Today, and for 16 years selected one of the Top 10 Most Recommended Consultants in Inside Public Accounting's Best of the Best. Connect with Gale Crosley on LinkedIn Thank you to our show sponsor, Woodard!!! The Woodard membership program will help you build your ideal practice with our coaching, education, community and resources. We'll get you there with strategic direction from experienced pros, access to skill building and resources and a community to continually inspire your practice's transformation. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Kristen Keats about how to bring joy back into accounting. Kristen is a CPA and industry leader, with over twenty years experience serving small businesses and self-employed clients. With Heather, she shares her mission to create more meaningful, balanced, and fulfilling work for accountants by focusing on client relationships, fair pricing, and team connection. Together, they discuss shifting from burnout and billable hours toward a mindset of empowerment, communication, and purpose where both clients and accountants thrive. About Kristen KeatsKristen launched her career at a national accounting firm and owned her own practice for more than eight years. Before founding Breakaway, Kristen served as a partner at a local Portland firm and a senior tax manager at a large regional firm. Kristen is an avid and early adopter of new accounting technologies and an expert on cloud accounting. She is passionate about listening to her clients and gaining a well-rounded understanding of their needs and long-term goals, always striving to make their lives easier. Kristen received her degree from the renowned W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University. When Kristen is not advising her clients and leading her team, she enjoys reading, camping, and, most of all, spending time with her two lively teenagers. Connect with Kristen Keats on LinkedIn Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy!Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Joe speaks with Jeff about the future of AI in accounting and how predictive models can transform bookkeeping accuracy. Jeff shares how his company, Digits, leverages AI not to replace accountants but to streamline workflows, reduce errors, and give professionals more time for higher-value work. They also explore the difference between generative and predictive AI, the role of accountants in reviewing outputs, and why firms must adapt quickly or risk being outpaced by competitors. About Jeff Seibert Jeff Seibert is the co-founder and CEO of Digits, where he's building the world's first AI-powered accounting platform for startups and small businesses. Jeff is also a frequent presenter on both entrepreneurial and technical topics and has lectured at Stanford, Harvard, MIT, and Tufts, as well as keynoted Scaling New Heights, Twitter Flight, AppsWorld, AnDevCon, EclipseCon, and others. Learn more about Jeff at: JeffSeibert.com Twitter LinkedIn Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy! Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Madeline Reeves about the evolution of advisory services in accounting and how firms can confidently transition from transactional work to advisory relationships. Madeline shares insights from her Advisory Amplified Roadshow, a national event series designed to give accounting professionals practical tools for productizing advisory services, building stronger client connections, and leveraging AI to unlock efficiency. About Madeline Reeves Madeline Reeves' career has centered around working with accounting firms to help elevate understanding by providing education & coaching around cloud based technology. Learn more about Madeline Reeves and Advisory Amplified at this link. Thank you to our show sponsor, CorpNet! CorpNet is the trusted leader in business formation and compliance services, offering one of the best tools for accountants, CPAs and tax professionals nationwide. The CorpNet Partner Program, 10X her firms revenue by helping clients form a business, register for payroll taxes, maintain compliance and more. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather and Joe speak about upcoming regulatory changes that could ease the burden on government contractors and the potential disruption of the proposed HIRE Act, which would heavily tax outsourced accounting labor. They also dive into how the profession must adapt to staffing shortages, the evolving role of CPAs and noncredentialed accountants, and the transformative impact of AI on jobs. Current events — White House proposes to get rid of 60 accounting requirements for contractors Will the HIRE Act hurt outsourcing? TV/Movie quote of the week — Heather mentioned the movie "Her" Joe mentioned the miniseries "aka Charlie Sheen" Excellent things we learned — Fourlane CX: Cloud Interface For QuickBooks Desktop A World Without Work: Technology, Automation, and How We Should Respond Member spotlight — Brittany Byrd presented by Lamont Nesbitt, Practice Advancement Coach at Woodard The Woodard Report article of the week — Next-Level Bookkeeping in QuickBooks Online: Going Beyond the Basics Thank you to our show sponsor, CorpNet! CorpNet is the trusted leader in business formation and compliance services, offering one of the best tools for accountants, CPAs and tax professionals nationwide. The CorpNet Partner Program can 10X your firms revenue by helping clients form a business, register for payroll taxes, maintain compliance and more. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather and Joe speak about the Supreme Court's pending decision on tariffs, how it could trigger massive refunds for businesses, and why accountants need to prepare now. They also discuss Ernst & Young's $1 billion investment in AI, exploring how automation might relieve staffing shortages while reshaping the profession. Current events — Refunds on Tariffs if Supreme Court rules them Unconstitutional Ernst & Young (EY) pledged $1 billion to advanced AI and workforce development TV/Movie quote of the week — RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Joe mentioned Game of Thrones Excellent things we learned — The Case for Using Small Language Models The JOLT Effect: How High Performers Overcome Customer Indecision Member spotlight — Jane Watkins The Woodard Report article of the week — Better Questions. Better Hires. Stronger Firms. Thank you to our show sponsor, Zoho! Zoho is a unique and powerful software suite to transform the way you work, designed for businesses of all sizes, built by a company that values your privacy. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
On this episode of the Woodard Report podcast, Heather speaks with Byron Patrick about how AI is reshaping accounting education, professional development, and even everyday problem-solving. Byron shares insights from co-founding TB Academy, which offers hands-on courses in AI foundations and case studies for accountants, and highlights favorite AI tools like Gamma.app and Google's Notebook LM. About Byron PatrickByron K. Patrick, CPA, is an innovator who thrives at the intersection of accounting and technology. Rejecting traditional accounting roles early on, Byron founded Simplified Innovations, an IT firm built specifically for CPAs. He expanded his impact at Botkeeper, leading the charge in adopting AI to revolutionize bookkeeping. And moved on to transform how accounting firms handle quality assurance through automated technology as CEO of VERIFYiQ. For decades, Byron has been a respected national speaker and writer, translating complex accounting technology topics into practical guidance. As co-founder of TB Academy, Byron equips accountants with generative AI skills, empowering them to become tech-enabled industry leaders. He frequently shares his insights nationwide, making advanced technology approachable and practical for finance professionals. Outside the accounting-tech scene, Byron lives on a horse farm, balancing family, dogs, horses, and a passion for helping accountants redefine their profession. Learn more about Byron at: TB Academy LinkedIn X (formerly Twitter) Instagram Thank you to our show sponsor, Canopy! Unclunk your firm with Canopy, the fully integrated practice management that helps accountants build the firm they always wanted. The suite includes client and document management, workflow, time and billing, engagements and proposals, and more. Check out getcanopy.com. Learn more about the show and our sponsors at Woodard.com/podcast
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