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Today, advertising executive Rory Sutherland returns to the Having a GAS podcast!   Rory Sutherland is the Vice-Chairman of Ogilvy, author of Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense and the deliverer of TED Talks that have been viewed almost 7 million times. We are delighted to welcome Rory back onto the Having a GAS podcast.   Thank you to our sponsor: Eventide Audio | Studio Processors, Effects Pedals and Plug-ins GAS Music: Gas Music, production and sound design | Gas Music (gasismusic.co.uk)   Timestamps  (00:00:00) Pre-Intro (00:01:14) Introduction (00:02:06) Guessing Super Bowl Commercials (00:28:18) Comparing the Oppenheimer and Poor Things Soundtracks (00:33:24) James Bond Soundtracks (00:37:14) Rory Sutherland Interview  

Join Greg, Aaron, Nathan and Ruraidh for music related banter, quizzes and other items, preceding the main interview. Today, Andrew Scheps returns to the Having a GAS podcast and is IRL and 'unplugged' for the first time! We discuss his Grammy Nomination for mixing 'The Blue Hour', his mix bus processing, his collaboration with Waves on Scheps Omni Channel 2, distortion, reverb, parallel processing, his preferred headphones for mixing and why mix engineers choose to mix in the box, Red Hot Chili Peppers, fame, AI and much more!   Watch the interview: https://youtu.be/yY6-iSavai0?si=ifLvMcXbo-WZ2XKk Check out Low Roar: Low Roar official (lowroarmusic.com) Listen to 'The Blue Hour': https://bit.ly/4bk2rGo Thank you to our sponsor: Eventide Audio | Studio Processors, Effects Pedals and Plug-ins GAS Music: Gas Music, production and sound design | Gas Music (gasismusic.co.uk)   Timestamps (00:00:00) Intro (00:02:38) Begin Chat (00:03:07) Introducing the GAS Team (00:07:46) Academy Awards (00:12:10) Sponsor (00:12:33) Ruraidh's Story (00:16:30) The Rite of Spring (00:19:09) Music Quiz (00:23:02) RAK Studios (00:27:37) Interview with Andrew Scheps (02:09:38) Outro

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Duncan Ward, Chief Conductor of philharmonie zuidnederland (South Netherlands Philharmonic). In this episode, host Greg Owens speaks to Duncan about his musical homecoming, making his debut at The Barbican with the esteemed LSO. Duncan will take the baton at two concerts. The first, on November 16th, is a collaboration with cellist Abel Selaocoe at the EFG London Jazz Festival. The second, on November 23rd, features a programme combining Czech and French masterpieces. More about Duncan Ward here: https://www.duncan-ward.co.uk/about Tickets for Duncan's events at Barbican here: https://www.barbican.org.uk Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more... GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk​​​ © GAS™ Music 2023

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Jeff Ellis, a Grammy Award-winning recording engineer and multiple time Grammy-nominated mix engineer. We speak in-depth about Frank Ocean and Jeff's more recent work with artists like Doja Cat and d4vd. More on Jeff Ellis here: https://jeffellisworldwide.com “I got my start at the famed EastWest Studios in Hollywood California, (formerly United/Western Recorders) where artists such as Frank Sinatra and The Beach Boys once recorded. I worked with countless top artists during my tenure at EastWest and rose through the ranks to become one of their main engineers." In 2011, Jeff left EastWest Studios to engineer Frank Ocean's channel ORANGE. The Album was a critical success, earning him a 2012 Grammy for Best Urban Contemporary Album, as well as nominations for Album of the Year and Record of the Year. The album includes the Platinum selling single 'Thinkin' Bout You' which was his first platinum selling mix. Jeff would continue as Frank Oceans engineer during the recording of his follow up album Blonde. After the release of Blonde, Jeff transitioned to focusing on mixing and has since worked with many other notable artists such as Doja Cat, JOJI, The Neighborhood, Kali Uchis, Rico Nasty, Snow Aalegra, Omar Apollo, Vance Joy and many more. In 2021 Jeff returned home to EastWest studios as a permanent resident mixer in Studio 4. Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more... GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk​​​ © GAS™ Music 2023

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Chris Gehringer, mastering engineer known for having mastered recordings by artists including; Gwen Stefani, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Drake and plenty more! We speak in-depth about Chris's mastering process, where mastering is in 2023 and why separation from the mix engineer is key, we also discuss the journey he took to reach the top of his profession... More on Chris Gehringer here: https://sterling-sound.com/engineer/c... According to Wikipedia... Chris Gehringer was born in Teaneck, New Jersey and raised in Bergen County. After graduating from Pascack Hills High School in Montvale, New Jersey, he attended the Institute of Audio Research. His first job in the industry was at Greene Street Recording and from there, he went on to work as a cutting assistant at Trutone Records. In 1985, Gehringer joined Tom Coyne and Herbie Powers at Frankford-Wayne Mastering and mastered primarily dance and R&B records throughout the 1980s. In 1988, he moved to the Hit Factory and in his 12 years there, mastered many landmark releases in Rap and Hip-Hop, including records by Naughty By Nature, Mobb Deep, Wu Tang Clan and PM Dawn. In 2000, he joined Sterling Sound as a senior mastering engineer and in 2016, Gehringer became a partner at Sterling Sound. Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more... GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Brandon Campbell, composer of music for film, TV and video games. After interning for Hans Zimmer at Remote Control Productions and assisting Ramin Jawadi, Brandon offers us a unique insight into the day to day experience of a composer working across the mediums of film, tv and video games in 2023... More on Brandon Campbell here: http://www.brandon-campbell.com According to Wikipedia... Brandon Campbell is an American music composer for film, TV and video games and is best known for his music contributions to TV series' like Game of Thrones and Person of Interest and movies such as The Thinning and The Great Wall. After graduating from the University of Rochester he interned at Hans Zimmer's studio, Remote Control Productions and later served as an assistant to Ramin Djawadi. Campbell ventured off on his own in with the film Where Love Found Me, and later that year wrote the music for the thriller The Thinning. As an additional composer Campbell has written music for TV shows, films and video games like Breakout Kings (2011–2012), Medal of Honor: Warfighter (2012), The House of Magic (2013), Person of Interest (2011–2016), The Strain (2014–2017), Dracula Untold (2014), Warcraft (2016), Gears of War 4 (2016), Prison Break (2005–2017), A Wrinkle in Time (2018), The Ravine (2021) and Eternals (2021). In 2018, Campbell composed the score for the drama-comedy Funny Story. He co-composed the score for the film Slender Man with Ramin Djawadi, created additional music for Gears 5 and co-composed the second episode of Apple TV+'s series Amazing Stories with Djawadi. Campbell is also composing music for Netflix's The Letter for the King. He also scored music for Pacific Rim: The Black, the anime series based on Pacific Rim and Pacific Rim: Uprising. Campbell co-composed music for the Amazon Games video game New World and the Square Enix video game The Diofield Chronicle with Djawadi. Campbell received an Daytime Emmy Award in 2021 for Music Direction and Composition for a Drama Series for NETFLIX’s The Letter for the King. Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more... GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk​​​ © GAS™ Music 2023

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Rob Henderson, talking all things Tony Soprano. The Sopranos is one of the most influential and impactful TV series of recent years. Rob Henderson recently earned his PhD at Cambridge University specialising in human behaviour. If you're interested to hear more from Rob, follow him at https://substack.com/@robkhenderson Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more... GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Tony Hoffer, renowned producer and mix engineer! Tony Hoffer has created some of the most impactful songs of the last 20 years from indie anthems like The Kooks 'Naive', to ethereal landscapes like M83's 'Midnight City'. He tells us what investment it takes to break an artist in 2023, using artists like The 1975 as an example. More on Tony Hoffer: http://tonyhoffer.com According to Wikipedia... Tony Hoffer is an American record producer, songwriter, and music mixer. Tony Hoffer is credited for his work on multiple platinum-selling albums including The Kooks, The Thrills, Beck, Supergrass, Turin Brakes and Air. His records have been nominated for 7 Grammys and British Mercury Prize Awards for his work with Beck, M83, Chromeo, Silversun Pickups, Depeche Mode and The Thrills. Tony Hoffer is most noted for his production and mixing of albums by Beck, The Fratellis (debuted at #2 in UK charts on 11 Sep 06), The Kooks (one of the top-selling UK albums in 2006), M83, Belle & Sebastian, Fitz and the Tantrums and Air. Tony Hoffer has also worked with Fischerspooner, Grandaddy, the French group Phoenix, Suede, Sondre Lerche, Turin Brakes and Canadian-Irish band Romes. Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more... GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk​​​ © GAS™ Music 2023 #TonyHoffer #TheKooks #1975

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Nils Leonard, CCO & founder of Uncommon, a creative studio building brands. More on Uncommon here: https://www.uncommon.london Nils Leonard has spent over 18 years in the advertising and design industry working across a spread of the most recognised and influential agencies in London. In his most recent post as Chief Creative Officer of Grey LDN, Nils oversaw the most profitable and awarded years in the agency’s 52 years history and became one of the youngest agency chairmen in the world leading its brands globally and locally. In 2015 Grey LDN became the only agency in the world to win two Grand Prix at Cannes Lions and under his creative guidance the Grey was named most awarded agency of the year twice in just three years at D&AD. Nils was voted into the Ad Age creativity 50 and named the most creative person in advertising globally by Business insider. An unconventional background in design, his most recent work on the Tate Britain won the Grand Prix at the Design Week awards and picked up 15 lions at the Cannes festival of creativity. A creative champion, agitating for change and diversity in the industry, Nils is a regular speaker and judge at industry events, is on the board of trustees of D&AD and is listed as the Sunday Times 500 most influential people in the UK. Over the last year Nils has led the inception and launch of the ethical capsule coffee brand Halo to global acclaim. A true challenger brand Halo was reviewed by GQ Magazine as ‘The coffee keeping Nespresso ambassador George Clooney awake at night.’ More recently Nils has founded the Uncommon Creative Studio alongside Lucy Jameson and Natalie Graeme. Uncommon is a creative studio building brands the world is happy exists. Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more... GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk​​​   © GAS™ Music 2023

Rocker-turned-engineer, Jason LaRocca, is formerly known as the singer/guitarist of acclaimed punk band, The Briggs. By the age of eighteen, the Los Angeles native had also become a full-fledged producer and recording engineer. Jason has recorded and mixed for such top recording artists as Jay-Z, CeeLo Green, Fiona Apple, Schoolboy Q and Serj Tankian of System of a Down. In addition, Jason mixes tracks for film, TV and games, including 'Morbius', 'Fortnite' and 'The Rings of Power'. Join Jason and host Greg Owens for an enlightening conversation.

Based in Brisbane, Aiden Kenway is a professional music producer and successful YouTuber, with over 250k subscribers at time of recording. Aiden describes his channel as "the ultimate hub for mastering music production and discovering creative inspiration!" Aiden's most popular videos are full recreations of popular hip-hop tracks, including 'Industry Baby' (Lil Nas X), 'Sicko Mode' (Travis Scott) and 'The Hills' (The Weeknd). His viewers value Aiden's content for his commitment to accuracy whilst maintaining a personable and accessible style. In this episode, Aiden discusses the inception of his YouTube channel, how he intends to evolve it and how his recreations have expanded his own production tool-set.  

Crispin Hands is a Canadian composer and sound designer. He is an award winning audio creator who has been involved with video games for over 17 years. He started working on games in May 1995 at Electronic Arts. In April 2000, he left and started work for Relic Entertainment as an audio director. He stayed there for 6 years and then moved on to Pandemic Studios in March 2007. At the beginning of 2009, he worked for Electronic Arts again at their Black Box division. He left there before the end of the year and then worked for Rare, working on their Axis & Allies title. In March 2010, he worked for BigPark, also working on their Axis and Allies video games. Today, Crispin runs Lionhead Studios where he composes music and sound for all sorts of media including video games. He is currently composing the music for Minecraft Legends.

Dr Tim Summers researches and teaches music in Western popular culture at Royal Holloway University of London, with a particular focus on music for film, television and video games. His books include Understanding Video Game Music, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time – A Game Score Companion and The Cambridge Companion to Video Game Music. He edits the Journal of Sound and Music in Games for University of California Press. The main recurring theme of his research is an attempt to understand the musical experiences and educations that mass media provide for the huge audiences they address.

Today I'm Having a GAS™ with Rob Henderson, talking all things Don Draper, Mad Men and specifically what his character teaches us about masculinity throughout the twentieth century right up to 2023! Rob Henderson recently earned his PhD at Cambridge University specialising in human behaviour. If you're interested to hear more from Rob, follow him at https://robkhenderson.substack.com/ Having a GAS™ is the podcast that talks to the great and the good of the creative industries, and in particular finds out what makes great music for film, for TV, for advertising; for dancing to, for cooking to, f*cking to, and more...   GAS™ Music is a music production agency in Manchester, UK. We compose and produce original music, create awe inspiring sound design and have a fully integrated audio post-production studio. We also have a great record collection, and welcome any additions, recommendations or criticisms. http://www.gasismusic.co.uk​​​   According to Wikipedia...   Donald Francis Draper, born Richard “Dick” Whitman, is a fictional character and the protagonist of the AMC television series Mad Men (2007–2015), portrayed by Jon Hamm. Up to the Season 3 finale, Draper was creative director of fictional Manhattan advertising firm Sterling Cooper. He then became a founding partner at a new firm, Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce, after he and his superiors left their previous agency in advance of an unwanted acquisition. The agency later merged with a rival firm, Cutler Gleason & Chaough, to become Sterling Cooper & Partners while pursuing a contract from Chevrolet. The character of Don Draper is partially inspired by Draper Daniels, a creative director at Leo Burnett advertising agency in Chicago in the 1950s, who worked on the Marlboro Man campaign; and by Bill Backer, an advertising executive at McCann Erickson who created the "I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke" ad in 1971. Mad Men is an American period drama television series created by Matthew Weiner and produced by Lionsgate Television. It ran on the cable network AMC from July 19, 2007, to May 17, 2015, lasting for seven seasons and 92 episodes. Its fictional time frame runs from March 1960 to November 1970. Mad Men begins at the fictional Sterling Cooper advertising agency on Madison Avenue in Manhattan, New York City, and continues at the new firm of Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce (later named Sterling Cooper & Partners) near the Time-Life Building at 1271 Sixth Avenue. According to the pilot episode, the phrase "Mad men" was a slang term coined in the 1950s by advertisers working on Madison Avenue to refer to themselves, "Mad" being short for "Madison" (in reality, the only documented use of the phrase from that time may have been in the late-1950s writings of James Kelly, an advertising executive and writer). The series's main character is the charismatic advertising executive Don Draper (played by Jon Hamm), who is initially the talented creative director at Sterling Cooper. He is erratic and mysterious but is widely regarded throughout the advertising world as a genius; some of the most famous advertisement campaigns in history are shown to be his creations. Later, Don becomes a founding partner at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce but begins a struggle as his highly calculated identity falls into a period of decline. The plot of the show tracks the people in his personal and professional lives. As the series progresses, it depicts the changing moods and social mores of the United States throughout the 1960s and early 1970s. Mad Men received widespread critical acclaim for its writing, acting, directing, visual style and historical authenticity; it won many awards, including 16 Emmys and five Golden Globes. The show was also the first basic cable series to receive the Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series, winning the award each year of its first four seasons (2008–2011). It is widely regarded as one of the greatest television series of all time and as part of the early 21st century Golden Age of Television   © GAS™ Music 2022

A veritable powerhouse of the Croatian techno scene Insolate has been establishing a global presence as a DJ and producer for over 20 years delivering as both a label boss at Out Of Place and the creative force behind their electrifying TRAUM events. Hailing from Osijek, Croatia, on the wide Croatian East – a town that at first glance a heavy industrial atmosphere overshadows, she is making her first steps as a DJ back in 1997 before taking over European and worldwide clubs. Her list of clubs and partys she played is impressive and includes Berghain, Rex, Tresor, Under Club, Club d’Anvers, Unter, Exit Festival, Tomorrowland, ADE and Dimensions Festival. Amongst many European clubs she played numerous tours in Colombia and recently added USA, China and Argentina to the list. As a producer, she's had a string of releases on highly respected labels including DJ Deep's Deeply Rooted, Marcelus’s Singular and Developer’s Modularz - supported and played by some of techno's finest including Laurent Garnier, DVS1, Dax J and Ilario Alicante. Also she released the stellar Obscure Object Of Desire EP on JoeFarr's new User Experience imprint, EP for a Suara and beautiful EP for Proletarijat, label run by Sev Dah. She also contributed to Ben Sim’s compilation Tribology among giants as Planetary Assault Systems, Oscar Mulero, Steffi etc. and also made super interesting collaboration with french producer Arnaud le Texier and released EP with him for Prodigal Son. In 2019. she announced her debut album. The album Order is Chaos was released as a double vinyl and contains 10 tracks with extremely interesting collaborations with MATRIXXMAN and singer SARA RENAR. DJ Mag (UK) described album as “exciting journey thru trans-dimensional vocals, acid drenched sequences and floor obligated bangers.” Insolate is also a major contributor to the Croatian techno scene, so much so that she was in Ibiza to receive the award for "Dance Nation of the Year" at the DJ Awards on behalf of her nation. Her and long-time partner in crime Volster also run the event series TRAUM in her native Osijek. TRAUM events have cemented their place in the clubbing calendar with quality artists like Paula Temple, Antigone, Cassegrain, Janice, Etapp Kyle and Milton Bradley, just to name a few. The success of the TRAUM nights caught the attention of Red Bull Music Academy and Dimensions – both of which they have hosted official events for. Insolate being an international messenger of techno was recognised by Ambassador award that gave her a title "Croatia’s ambassador overseas" for 2017. The final part of putting Osijek on the techno map was taken in 2015 with the launch of the label Out Of Place which Insolate runs with Volster. The label was named in honour of the beautiful struggle of carving your own way into the scene from a place that's well off the grid from the traditional capitals of techno. Now five releases strong, the label has already had contributions from heavyweights like Milton Bradley, Developer, JoeFarr, Francois X, Janice and many more. As a DJ, Insolate is well known for her no-compromise, pure-bred techno sets. It's clear to anyone who's seen her perform that she's an artist with a lot of experience but also plenty of inspiration and ambition, and a deep knowledge of techno. She is simply a natural presence in a DJ booth. If you've seen her play, you will know exactly what this means.

Anna Lapwood is an organist, conductor and television and radio presenter, currently Director of Music at, and Fellow of, Pembroke College, Cambridge. On appointment she was the youngest person to hold the position of Director of Music at an Oxbridge college, taking up the position at the age of 21. As a broadcaster, Lapwood hosted a weekly classical music show on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire from 2018 to 2020,[4] and is a contributor to BBC Radio 3, having appeared on Record Review with Andrew McGregor. Because of her popularity on social media, she has occasionally been referred to as the "TikTok Organist" and uses the hashtag #playlikeagirl.

Troy Farnworth is an Executive Creative Director at Leith with over 10 years of experience.  Phil Evans is also an Executive Creative Director at Leith. A copywriter and former agency owner, Phil has been recognised at countless award ceremonies. On the back of successive record-breaking years, Leith is opening its second home on Richmond Street in Manchester, their first office outside of Scotland that will focus on offering end-to-end production facilities through their recent venture Leith Studios.

Alex Grieve is the Global and London CCO of BBH. Helen Rhodes is Executive Creative Director. They both join host Greg to discuss all things creative. After 12 years Alex returned to his alma mater as Global & London Chief Creative Officer of BBH. Prior to that Alex was Chief Creative Officer at AMV BBDO where for the last three years he's been ranked the No.1 CCO in the UK by WARC & The Drum. He's also been ranked the No.1 Creative Director in the world at the Cannes Lions. In 2021 AMV BBDO achieved an industry first by winning 'The Treble': Global Agency of the Year at Cannes, D&AD and The One Show. Under his leadership, AMV has won over 30 Agency of the Year awards at regional and international shows. And won 10 Cannes Grand Prixs including Titanium & Glass Grand Prix. 3 D&AD Black Pencils in consecutive years. 2 'Commercial of the Year' at British Arrows and multiple Grand Prixs at One Show (6 in 2021 alone), Clios, Andys to name but a few. After a couple of years at the BBC’s in-house creative agency, Helen Rhodes is returning to advertising to take up the role of executive creative director at Bartle Bogle Hegarty. At the BBC, as well as creating big campaigns like “Bringing Us Closer” during the pandemic, she worked on less traditional projects like an immersive online exhibition for “I May Destroy You,” a Dracula special build that got creepier as darkness fell, setting posters on fire for David Attenborough’s “Perfect Planet,” and an educational film series around Steve McQeen’s “Small Axe” series. Rhodes was previously at Wieden+Kennedy Portland, TBWA, Rainey Kelly Campbell Roalfe/Y&R and DLKW/Lowe

Danny Manu is a British-Ghanaian engineer and tech entrepreneur who built the world's first auto-translator earbuds. Danny studied at Oxford Brookes University and describes his mission in life as striving to improve lives. He was recently recognised by Google for his contributions to science, arts and culture. Danny describes himself as "a very ambitious, hard-working engineer who strives to develop life-changing solutions to improve people’s life". He had previously worked at Quanta Networks Inc. and MEDYBIRD before establishing MyManu in 2014. He has a background in music and art.

Sophie Lewis is the Chief Strategy Officer at M&C Saatchi London, having recently joined from DentsuMB.  Lewis' previous work includes planning on Mother’s original “Here come the girls” work for Boots in 2007 and on Abbott Mead Vickers BBDO's “Live well for less” positioning for Sainsbury’s in the early 2010s. She was also CSO at VMLY&R and is a member of the APG committee.