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Everything Recruiting, Recruitment Marketing, Technology, Talent Management, and Workforce Economics wrapped in brash opinions and loads of snark. Industry veterans Chad Sowash & Joel Cheesman share their experience and opinion on a wide variety of topics and current news stories. Hiring companies, employers, and vendors tune in for insights from practitioners, vendors, startups, and these two knuckleheads.

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In this snark-filled episode, Chad & Cheese take a deep dive into one of the most talked-about events of 2024: the merger between two job board giants, Monster and CareerBuilder. Once the dominant forces in the recruitment industry, these two "dinosaurs" are now struggling to survive as they attempt to snuggle up and weather the changing landscape. Chad & Cheese break down how these industry titans fell from grace, touching on Monster’s acquisition by Randstad and CareerBuilder’s dismemberment by Apollo. With their trademark wit, they explore what went wrong—spoiler: Super Bowl commercials and bad leadership played a part—and predict how the merger will likely end. As they navigate the impact of the merger, Chad & Cheese explain why the job board industry is evolving into something more focused on niche markets and innovative performance models, while the "Titans of Old" are left rearranging deck chairs on the sinking ship. Filled with sharp insights and unfiltered commentary, this episode offers listeners a front-row seat to the job board "meteor crash" and what it means for the future of recruiting.  Get ready for some brutal honesty about where the industry is headed and why the old giants may not survive unless they evolve—fast.
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Richard Collins, serial entrepreneur and founder of C Squared Technology, discusses the art of the startup pivot and mastering the challenges and opportunities in the recruitment advertising industry. He shares his experience with building a platform that connects job boards and employers, focusing on delivering qualified applicants. Richard emphasizes the need for a shift from quantity-based metrics like cost per click to quality-based metrics like cost per qualified applicant. He also highlights the importance of community-building and reinvention in the job board industry. Richard also discusses the funding and growth plans for C Squared Technology. Checkout his recent post on the move: https://www.cvwallet.com/post/our-journey-from-smart-cvs-for-jobseekers-to-solving-recruitment-advertising-for-the-ai-age Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 04:10 - From CV Wallet to C Squared Technology 08:59 - The Role of Blockchain in the Industry 10:36 - Pivoting and Adapting to the Changing Market 12:24 - Tips for Startups Facing a Pivot 13:39 - Shifting from CPC to Qualified and Interested Applicants 19:38 - The Disconnect Between Traffic and Quality 22:04 - The Role of C Squared Technology in the Job Board Ecosystem 26:36 - Building a Platform and the Future of C Squared Technology 33:00 - Reflections on the Changing Landscape of Tech Startups 36:40 - Funding and Growth Plans for C Squared Technology Keywords Richard Collins, Beverly Collins, C Squared Technology, ClickIQ, Indeed, IndeedIQ, recruitment advertising, job boards, qualified applicants, cost per click, cost per qualified applicant, platform, community-building, funding, growth plans, Appcast, CV Wallet
With Chad jet lagged from his trip back home from Portugal, Work It Daily's J.T. O'Donnell fills in. The main themes include the changing expectations of job seekers, the importance of authenticity and authentication in employer branding, the impact of AI and automation on job applications, the rise of video in recruitment, the role of social media in employee activism, and the right to disconnect from work. The conversation also touches on the cooling labor market and the challenges faced by job seekers in finding suitable employment. What's more? Joel and J.T. discuss various topics related to employment and the workforce. They touch on the impact of the economy on different age groups, the future of recruiting, the rise of remote work, and the challenges of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace. They also discuss the launch of LinkedIn's podcast aimed at Gen Z and the controversy surrounding an ageist report by Indeed. Takeaways Job seekers now expect the job to find them, thanks to the influence of platforms like TikTok. Authenticity is important, but job seekers also want authentication to ensure that employers are who they say they are. Video is becoming a crucial tool in recruitment, allowing job seekers to showcase their skills and employers to provide an authentic view of their company. Job seekers are using social media to document and validate their experiences, challenging traditional power dynamics in the workplace. The right to disconnect from work is becoming increasingly important, especially for younger generations who prioritize work-life balance. The economy has different impacts on different age groups, with younger individuals facing challenges in finding employment and older individuals experiencing age discrimination. The future of recruiting is uncertain, with the rise of AI and automation potentially reducing job opportunities in certain sectors. Remote work is becoming more prevalent and offers opportunities for individuals to have flexible and fractional careers. Diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts in companies are facing challenges and pushback, with some companies scaling back their initiatives. LinkedIn's launch of a podcast aimed at Gen Z reflects the growing importance of podcasts as a medium for professional content. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:34 - Introducing J.T. O'Donnell and her Background 02:21 - The Changing Expectations of Job Seekers 03:45 - The Importance of Authenticity and Authentication in Employer Branding 06:33 - The Rise of Video in Recruitment 07:59 - The Role of Social Media in Employee Activism 08:46 - The Right to Disconnect from Work 09:57 - The Cooling Labor Market and Challenges for Job Seekers 24:42 - The Impact of the Economy on Different Age Groups 27:24 - The Future of Recruiting and the Rise of AI 28:56 - The Opportunities and Challenges of Remote Work 37:46 - The Challenges of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion 48:17 - LinkedIn's Podcast Aimed at Gen Z Keywords job market, job seekers, authenticity, authentication, AI, automation, video, social media, employee activism, right to disconnect, labor market, employment, workforce, economy, ageism, recruiting, remote work, diversity, equity, inclusion, LinkedIn, podcast
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Yehuda Beller, co-founder and CRO at Worklik joins the Chad and Cheese podcast for a session of Firing Squad. WorkLik is a video-based job platform that aims to improve the candidate experience and connect job seekers with employers. They focus on hourly workers and Gen Z job seekers who are tired of the traditional hiring process. They've raised $2.5 million in seed funding and are planning to raise a Series A round soon. They offer a pay-per-match model, where employers only pay when they match with a qualified candidate. Sounds familiar, but do they have something unique enough to make it out alive? Gotta listen. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 05:05 - The Name and Funding 06:15 - The Relevance of Video Resumes 07:51 - Funding and Advisory Board 09:13 - Background and Expertise of the Leadership Team 12:00 - Creating Video Intros and Work History 13:30 - Target Audience and User Experience 14:16 - Video Resumes and Risk Assessment 17:04 - Matching Candidates with Job Requirements 18:46 - Focus on Hourly Work and Part-Time Jobs 21:41 - Improving the Candidate Experience 24:43 - Emphasizing the Human Connection 26:13 - Engaging Candidates Through Chat Messaging 29:46 - Expanding Reach Through Social Media 35:16 - Pay-Per-Match: A Cost-Effective Model
This week, the boys are doing their best Charles Dickens impressions, but instead of two cities, they're waxing poetic about the tale of two applicant tracking systems: SmartRecruiers and iCIMS. One is making all the right moves, while the other one, well, not-so-much. Then it's on to Amazon, whose new Amazon Q technology is taking the world by storm ... and possibly putting a lot of developers out of work. Yikes! Then it's time for a little Buy-or-Sell, featuring Pangeam, Micro1 and Workpay. More disagreement this time than usual, so hopefully you like fireworks. And if you don't like fireworks, hopefully you like chicken, becauase Chick-fil-A is back in the news. And speaking of chicken, don't even get Chad started on Chicken Cock Whiskey ... you just need to listen. Chapters 01:00 - Euro Chad goes deep 03:40 - Chicken Cock Whiskey 05:18 - Oasis, PeralJam and Xers 08:25 - Kelce's New Heights rein in $100m 12:00 - Fantasy Football 14:15 - CEO Divergence 20:01 - iCIMS: Potential Acquisition Strategy and Layoffs 21:01 - SmartRecruiters: Industry Knowledge and Global Expansion 21:14 - Impact of CEO Changes on Global Growth Strategies 21:30 - Comparing iCIMS and SmartRecruiters 27:36 - The Impact of Amazon Q 34:54 - Recent Funding: Pangem, Micro One, and Workpay 43:32 - Chick-fil-A's Misadventure in the Streaming Market Keywords SmartRecruiters, iCIMS, CEO changes, acquisitions, layoffs, global growth strategy, iCIMS, SmartRecruiters, HR tech, AI, software development, Amazon Q, Pangem, Micro One, Workpay, Chick-fil-A, streaming platform
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Matt Fischer, President and COO of Bullhorn, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss the evolution of Bullhorn and the future of the recruiting industry. Fischer shares his background and how he got into the staffing and tech industry. He also talks about the importance of AI in recruiting and how it can optimize the human element of the job. The conversation covers Bullhorn's recent acquisition of Textkernel and the benefits it brings to the company. Fischer also discusses Bullhorn's marketplace and venture investments, as well as the state of the staffing industry. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:58 - Bullhorn's Evolution and Acquisition of Textkernel 08:39 - The Importance of Bullhorn's Marketplace and Venture Investments 11:05 - The State of the Staffing Industry 16:08 - No Immediate Plans for an IPO: Focus on Private Equity Sponsors Keywords Matt Fischer, Bullhorn, recruiting industry, AI, Textkernel, marketplace, venture investments, staffing industry
Indeed Tomfuckery

Indeed Tomfuckery

2024-08-2348:18

This week, Chad and Cheese discuss various topics including the DNC, immersive technology, Chick-fil-A's elevated drive-through, Shawn Fain's speech on American workers, Alex Cooper's $100 million podcast deal, and upcoming events like RecFest and fantasy football. They also touch on Chris Bakke leaving X Hiring after one year, as well as the decline of Indeed and its questionable strategies, as well as the launch of ZipRecruiter's new podcast. The conversation then shifts to the role of AI in coding and the potential impact on developers. Finally, they touch on the controversial law in Indiana that requires age verification for viewing pornography online. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:41 - Real People and Relatable Moments at the DNC 06:28 - Immersive Technology 10:46 - Shawn Fain Fighs for American Workers 13:06 - Alex Cooper's $100 Million Podcast Deal 18:22 - Chris Bakke Leaves X Hiring 24:28 - Indeed's Tomfuckery 30:05 - ZipRecruiter's Launch a Podcast? 35:47 - AWS AI in Coding 44:18 - Indiana Hates Freedom Keywords Democratic National Convention, immersive technology, Chick-fil-A, elevated drive-through, Sean Fain, American workers, Alex Cooper, podcast deal, RecFest, fantasy football, Chris Bocchi, X, recruiting industry, Chris Russell, X hiring, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, AI, coding, pornography, age verification
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
In this snark-filled episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, Joel, Chad, and Lieven serve up their usual blend of sharp wit and sharp analysis, dissecting everything from Ukraine's military maneuvers to the UK’s job market makeover. No European stereotype is safe, and no topic is too serious (or ridiculous) for the boys to tackle. Ukrainian Military Offensive UK's Move Towards Degree-less Hiring StepStone's New Ad Campaign: Buy or Sell with: Impact Pool, AlgoJob, and ViaCurrent. The "Lazy" Belgian Lie This snark-filled synopsis captures the irreverent tone of the podcast while summarizing the key points with a healthy dose of sarcasm. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:30 - The Conflict in Ukraine and the Offensive Against Russia 11:35 - The Changing Job Market in the UK: Rise of Degree-Less Jobs 12:22 -The Importance of Certifications in the Tech Industry 15:23 - The Impact of Brexit on Immigration and Hiring 20:05 -Skills-Based Hiring and the Shift in Recruitment 23:50 -The Value of Blue-Collar Jobs and Skilled Workers 25:17 -Buy or Sell: Impact Pool 26:45 -Investing in Niche Businesses 33:39 -AlgoJob: AI-Driven Interview Tool 38:24 -Viacurrent: Early Wage Access App 47:11 -Working Hours in Europe Keywords Ukraine, job market, degree-less jobs, certifications, Brexit, immigration, skills-based hiring, inclusivity, diversity, HR, recruiting, buy or sell, companies, working hours, Europeans, jokes
Jim McCoy, CEO of Atlas, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss the rise of Employee of Record (EOR) platforms and the future of remote work. McCoy explains that EOR platforms help companies employ people in countries where they don't have a legal entity, supporting global mobility and recruitment. He also discusses the convergence of EOR and staffing, the challenges of safeguarding intellectual property in the gig economy, and the normalization of salaries based on cost of living. McCoy believes that the success of companies like Deel in the EOR space is beneficial for the entire industry, and he envisions an ecosystem that supports recruiters and helps them find the best candidates. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background of Jim McCoy 08:50 - Convergence of EOR and Staffing 11:45 - Supporting Recruitment and Hiring Across Borders 14:00 - Safeguarding Intellectual Property in the Gig Economy 19:54 - Normalization of Salaries Based on Cost of Living 25:22 - The Success of Companies like Deal in the EOR Space 29:48 - Building an Ecosystem to Support Recruiters Keywords Jim McCoy, CEO, Atlas, Employee of Record, EOR, remote work, staffing, intellectual property, gig economy, salaries, normalization, global mobility, recruitment, ecosystem
Upwork Over Indeed

Upwork Over Indeed

2024-08-1647:01

This week, the boys discuss the Olympics, layoffs at Paramount and Cisco. Plus, they analyze the financial performance and strategies of companies like Indeed, Upwork, ZipRecruiter, and Seek. They also touch on the challenges faced by job boards and the impact of AI on the industry. Additionally, they discuss the potential breakup of Alphabet (Google) due to antitrust concerns and the use of OnlyFans by Olympic athletes to fund their dreams. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Olympics Recap 08:21 - Leadership Decisions at Paramount and Cisco 16:15 - Starbucks Goes Off the Deep End 18:09 - Earnings Reports: ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, and Seek 19:16 - Concerns about Layoffs and Adaptation 23:12 - The Impact of AI on Jobs 24:09 - Challenges Faced by Job Boards 27:45 - Sprockets: A Poor Man's Paradox 29:11 - The State of the Recruitment Industry 37:15 - Google's Potential Breakup and Remote Work 43:00 - Olympic Athletes on OnlyFans Keywords Chad and Cheese, podcast, Olympics, layoffs, Paramount, Cisco, earnings reports, ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, Seek, recruitment industry, financial performance, strategies, job boards, AI, Indeed, Upwork, ZipRecruiter, Seek, Alphabet, Google, antitrust, OnlyFans, Olympic athletes
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast Does Europe, Joel and Lieven discuss the Olympics, anti-tourism protests in Europe, and play the ultimate game of Buy or Sell with several European startups. They review and give their opinions on the startups Earlybird, doinstruct, WorkerHero, Moniti and Passionfruit. They also explore the reasons why Europeans have a dislike for tourists. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:35 - Discussion on the Olympics 06:15 - Conversation on European Sports 08:45 - Review of Earlybird Startup 13:15 - Review of doinstruct Startup 15:46 - Review of WorkerHero Startup 20:19 - Review of Passionfruit Startup 27:09 - Discussion on Anti-Tourism Protests in Europe 30:18 - Reasons for Europeans' Dislike of Tourists 31:57 - Conclusion and Farewell Keywords Chad and Cheese Podcast, Europe, Olympics, anti-tourism protests, startups, Earlybird AI, doinstruct, Work Hero, PassionFruit, Moniti, Gojira, Yusuf Dikec,
Hilla Hascalovici, the founder of Period Ally, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss how her company helps companies support their menstruating employees. Period Ally offers high-quality products, pain management, menstrual leave and rest policies, training, events, and more. Julie Sowash takes over for Chad, as it's smarter to have smarts over snark on this episode. Hascalovici plans to raise money in the future and expand globally. The podcast hosts commend her for addressing an important issue and see potential for success in the market. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 03:03 -Pitching Periodally 12:03 -Bathroom Products and Preferences 15:10 - Cutting Through the Clutter 21:37 - Product Fit in a Remote Work Environment 28:03 - Pricing and Margins 32:02 - Women's Success in the Workplace 35:31 - Future Growth and Conclusion Keywords Hila Hascalovici, Periodally, period ally, menstruating employees, high-quality products, pain management, menstrual leave, rest policies, training, events, productivity, raising money, global expansion
In this episode, the boys deliver snarky takes on current events in tech and recruitment. They discuss the appeal of a down-to-earth political figure, shout out Snoop Dogg for boosting Olympic viewership, and promote their presence at Recfest in Nashville. Theget ready for a critique of Intel's leadership amid layoffs, Tinder's failed live streaming, and question the hype around AI investments, particularly startups like Tezi and Ema. They also highlight ZipRecruiter's acquisition of Breakroom as a smart move, while expressing doubts about Skillfully's future in AI-powered hiring. It's time for sharp industry insights with a punch humor and punch.  Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Reflections on the US Presidential Election 03:09 - The Olympics: Sportsmanship and Inspiration 06:00 -Layoffs at Major Companies: Leadership and Accountability 09:18 - Shout-outs: Snoop Dogg, Dolce & Gabbana, and Keeyora 10:56 -Upcoming Events: Recfest and Fantasy Football 21:14 -Layoffs, Funding, and Acquisitions in the HR and Recruiting Industry 28:41 -The Importance of Differentiation in the HR and Recruiting Industry 35:02 - Buy or Sell: Reviewing Recent Funding Rounds 45:54 - The Challenges Faced by the Restaurant Industry Keywords US presidential election, Olympics, layoffs, Snoop Dogg, Dolce & Gabbana, Kiora, politics, sports, fashion, technology, HR, recruiting, layoffs, funding, AI, HR tech, acquisitions, restaurant industry
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Recorded live from RecFest, this special episode of Chad and Cheese features Lord Wei, a member of the Science and Tech Committee in the House of Lords. It's not every day you hear from a political figure on the show! They dive into topics like AI regulation, workforce automation, and tech's role in recruitment. Don't miss it—follow Chad and Cheese for more unique insights. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 0:55 Transition from Tech into Recruitment 2:30 Lord Wei’s Short Bio 3:23 Predicting the Era of AI 5:14 AI is a Superhuman in Recruitment 6:29 AI is about Skills 7:52 AI Discovers Talent  9:51 Flexibility is Key 13:45 Taking Advantage over Government 15:23 Redeploying People into New Jobs 18:33 AI Makes Hiring Fair 19:59 Talent Is What Counts 23:06 Gen Z                         24:38 Bringing Migrants into the Workforce 26:05 Integration into Hybrid Future
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Mia Michael

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Mel W

Surprised to hear her say 4yo ago she didn't think IG would be a place to find candidates. Candidates are people. Go where the people are. 🤷🏽‍♀️

May 17th
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Doug Applegate

good insights... as video interviewing has emerged and grown in usage, the questions around discrimination and biases have been swirling from many an HR/Recruiting pro.

Jun 12th
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Chad Sowash

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Jul 5th
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