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The Sourcegraph Podcast is a new show about developer tools and their creators. It can sometimes feel like a full-time job just staying on top of the latest libraries, frameworks, plugins, extensions, CLI tools, and developer apps. We want to help you do that, by giving you a window into the minds of some of the best and brightest people working at the forefront of developer productivity. You'll hear from dev tool company founders, open-source authors, and developer efficiency leaders inside some of the best engineering organizations. Our guests share war stories, origin stories, worldviews, histories, prognostications, and the tools and technologies they're most excited about today. If you're a programmer who is passionate about leveling up your own productivity or perhaps an aspiring dev tool creator yourself, this podcast is for you.
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Pydantic is a Python library for typed validation of external data that has experienced exponential growth since 2020. We’ll hear the story of what motivated Samuel to create Pydantic, the most common ways people use it, and the success and growth of FastAPI with Pydantic. Also, Pydantic V2 has not been released yet, but we’ll learn what motivated Samuel to rewrite it in Rust, besides being faster and some other things happening with it. And if you’re interested, Samuel is always lookin...
In this episode, we are honored to have Daniel Stenberg, the founder and lead developer of cURL, as our guest. cURL is a ubiquitous data transfer utility that grew into a robust library used in billions of applications worldwide. Daniel is a Swedish developer who has been involved in open source for decades. He is also the recipient of the Polhem Prize 2017 for his work on cURL. Join us as we talk to Daniel about his journey with cURL, his passion for open source, and everything in between.
Beyang sits down with John Kodumal, CTO and co-founder of LaunchDarkly. LaunchDarkly is a SaaS feature management platform for developers that allows them to iterate and get code into production quickly and safely by separating feature rollout and code deployment. John begins by talking about his first experiences with computers and programing in the 80s, including teaching himself to us a Dvorak keyboard in the first grade, experimenting with BBS in elementary school, and programming h...
Beyang talks with Ravi Parikh, founder and CEO of Airplane. Airplane is a developer tool for turning one-off scripts into internal mini-apps that can be used by technical and non-technical users across the company. Ravi shares his journey as a programmer, how he got into computers at a young age, took a brief detour to become a professional musician, and then started his first software company, Heap Analytics, with his friend Matin Movassate. Beyang and Ravi discuss what took Heap from idea t...
Beyang talks with Max Howell, creator of Homebrew, about his new package manager, Tea, which aims to solve the problem of open-source funding. Max shares his beginnings in programming and what led him to work on early music players in Linux, Last.fm, and eventually get into Mac development. Max discusses the frustrations he experienced in cross-platform development that were the impetus for the creation of Homebrew and explains how Homebrew became the de facto package manager for macOS. Max t...
Why can’t one CI scale alongside a company–from startup to enterprise? In this episode, Fedor Korotkov, founder and CTO of CirrusLabs, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to talk about how, as a student back in 2009, he developed a photo app that earned him almost $2,000 a month, share the time he applied to be an intern at Twitter but ended up with a full-time job, and explain how six months of “funemployment” led to the building and founding of Cirrus CI–the one CI to rule ...
Why is the software industry now willing and excited to buy developer tools instead of building them internally? In this episode, Kelly Norton, principal software engineer at Mailchimp and creator of open-source code search engine Hound, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to talk about his work on the controversial project that would become Google Web Toolkit, share his experience trying to build an ecosystem of tooling, which resulted in Google Dart, and explain how the com...
Why should programmers treat programming like a craft? In this episode, Max Brunsfeld, co-founder of Zed, a collaborative code editor written in Rust, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to share the apprenticeship-like pair-programming experience that taught him to appreciate programming, explain how he learned the fundamentals of parsing on the weekends and tell the story of presenting an application he couldn’t explain to Paul Graham at Y Combinator. Along the way, Max des...
Why is using PlanetScale a mind-altering experience? In this episode, Sugu Sougoumarane, co-founder and CTO of PlanetScale, shares how one email got him a second job interview with Elon Musk, tells the story of how he became one of the elite engineers at Paypal by solving the company’s most painful process, and explains why database administrators are shifting from managing machines to managing fleets of machines. Along the way, Sougoumarane explains why so many developers have told him they’...
Why is a systems engineering mindset essential for a scaling startup? In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Nelson Elhage, creator of the open source code search engine Livegrep, co-creator of the Ruby type checker Sorbet, and Member of Technical Staff at Anthropic, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to discuss how Rust is changing the security landscape, explain why Patrick McKenzie, better known as patio11, called his live code search tool “miraculous,” and dive deep...
Why is building a technical community the most effective moat out there for startups? In this episode, swyx, who runs DevRel at Temporal and co-founded the Svelte Society, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to discuss the stress-induced heart palpitations that led him to transition from finance to tech, show how you can harness a willingness to look stupid to become a standout member of your community, and explain why every book should come with a Discord. Along the way, swy...
When, and how, will computer vision and machine learning revolutionize the world? In this episode of the Sourceraph Podcast, Joseph Nelson, CEO and co-founder of Roboflow, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to discuss how Joseph got started in programming (developing a joke generator for a graphing calculator), to share his experience working as a human Google alert for the United States Congress, and to explain why he finds building developer tools so empowering. Along the ...
How can you build a following, and a career, with memes? In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Cassidy Williams, Director of Developer Experience at Netlify, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to discuss why we should consider communication a core skill instead of a soft skill, why you should be a developer advocate or a software engineer but not both, and why, when learning React, you should start with the fundamentals. Along the way, Cassidy shares stories about the ...
How do Google developers create and popularize internal tools? In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Han-Wen Nienhuys, creator of the open-source code search engine Zoekt, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph, to discuss the agonizing experience with Perforce that drove Han-Wen to build his first dev tool, explain the value of coding on trains and planes, and share the story of how building code search nearly inspired a street named after him in Sweden. Along the way, Han...
How do you improve on C? In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Andrew Kelley, creator of the Zig programming language and the founder and president of the Zig Software Foundation, joins Beyang Liu, co-founder and CTO of Sourcegraph and special guest Stephen Gutekanst, software engineer at Sourcegraph, to talk about what it takes to create a new programming language. Along the way, Andrew shares how programmers can get funding for their side projects and hobbies, why conditional compilat...
How do you make security, a topic that often requires a PhD to understand, accessible to your average developer? In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Sam Scott, co-founder and CTO of Oso, a batteries-included library for building authorization into your application, comes on the podcast to explain to Beyang Liu, CTO at Sourcegraph, his vision for the future of security development. Along the way, Sam also shares how he got started in cryptography, explains why they pivoted Oso from inf...
What’s the future of feature flags? On this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Brothers Ivar Østhus and Egil Østhus, co-founders of Unleash, join Sourcegraph co-founder and CTO Beyang Liu to discuss their open source project and open core company. In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Ivar and Egil talk about their histories in programming and open source, share the inspiration for turning a side project into a full-time job, and dissect the current state, as well as the future of, the...
How do you design software docs and websites that both intrigue and educate? As a contributor to popular projects like React Native, Jest, Prettier, and TypeScript, Orta Therox has prioritized design for visual engagement, accessibility, and learning. In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Orta talks about the importance of engaging docs, how experimentation fuels learning and engineering in TypeScript, and how developers can write better code examples with Shiki Twoslash, a project he d...
On the eve of the pandemic, Christopher Chedeau was procrastinating performance reviews at Facebook and decided to hack together a simple drawing app. That weekend project became Excalidraw, an open-source virtual whiteboard so popular that its users have basically demanded a startup form around it so that they can bring it to work. In this episode of the Sourcegraph Podcast, Christopher tells the backstory of Excalidraw's meteoric rise, as well as his story of joining Facebook and coming to ...
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