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The thoughts and chat of John Cassidy and Steven Watt (and a range of guests) as they give their take on the world of running, marathoning and ultra marathoning.
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We've reached the halfway point of Season 14, and this week, we're joined by ultra-runner Dave Moulding! Dave's running journey proves you don't need to be fit—just well-costumed. Dave takes us from his "unhealthiest, least fit period" , which involved running a 10K dressed as The Stig (complete with a paper mâché helmet) , and then wearing it for 8 hours in the pub afterwards.This paved the way for taking on the brutal, 215-mile Race Across Scotland. Dave also spills the beans on his terrifyingly-efficient support crew, with none other than our own Yorkshire Correspondent, Mel Sykes. Find out how Mel & Jo enforced a strict 90-minute sleep rule , why Dave felt like a child begging for "five more minutes on my phone" , and the crew's no-nonsense mantra for foot care: "Socks off, let's get stuck in!".Plus, Dave shares his strategy for telling the unkind voice in his head "Not today, thank you" , and the shockingly painful moment an electric fence touched his ring.Our chat includes• From being "spectacularly average" at all sports to going "all in" on Ironman training.• Why running a 10K in a paper mâché helmet was the perfect "get out" for not being fit —and the 8 hours he spent wearing it in the pub.• Why ultra-runners are just like toddlers asking for five more minutes on their phones.• The crew mantra for blister management: "Socks off, let's get stuck in!".• Dave's biggest strength is his head. How to tell the unkind voice in your brain, "Not today, thank you".• The electrifying moment a charged fence and a wedding ring got a little too close.
Welcome back for the episode you've all been waiting for! This week, the hosts dive into a tale of extreme physical endurance, mental warfare, and sacrificed beards. John gives us the full, chaotic debrief from his 100-mile attempt on the Mark Cockbain 400 metre track event, while Steven wonders if shaving your face is a viable streamlining tactic for ultraunning.We dive head-first to "The Chilli Trail" for an update on the 100% sold-out UK premier 10K trail event. Steven gives a spicy route report, confirming the ground is soft and predicting a glorious, spectacular mud-fest. This also leads to a discussion on the immediate need for Hoka wellies and you find out how to get your hands on a limited-edition sticker and a spot in the 2026 event.Then, the main topic: John’s Track 100 Debrief. John recounts his experience from The Track, he explains the crucial lessons learned from last year: how running in the outside lane added miles to his watch—and why sticking to the white line is essential for any aspiring 403-lap lunatic. John reveals his last-minute race mantra ("slow and smooth" ), his absolute lowest point of the run, which he combated by playing games with other runners and also receiving an surprise 15-second video message from the legendary Jasmin Paris.It’s a tale of physical endurance, mental warfare, and not wanting to disappoint your coach (shout out to the phenomenal Fiona Watt!)
In this milestone episode, John Robb returns for his third appearance on the show to share how he conquered Scotland’s legendary Triple Crown—three ultra races in one year: the Highland Fling, the West Highland Way Race, and Devil o’ the Highlands.From frog-dodging night runs to training peaks pranks, John’s story is packed with grit, laughs, and heart. Your hosts dive into his transformation from first-time runner in 2017 to Triple Crown finisher in 2025, with coaching, community, and sheer determination leading the way.Highlights include:- Training tales from Auchterarder to Cloan Glen - Coaching breakthroughs and April Fool’s curveballs- Fav and least favourite sections on the WHW- Race-day drama, PBs, and magic finish line moments.A celebration of running, resilience, and the magic of doing something phenomenal that makes everyone proud as punch.
"Each day, regardless of what happened, each day was a new day and it was just reset and start again." Gilly Marshall - October 2025Have you ever faced a challenge so tough it left you wondering if you had what it takes? Do you walk away, or do you go back for more?In this incredibly inspiring episode, we sit down with the phenomenal Gilly Marshall, a cornerstone of the Scottish ultra-running community. Gilly shares her amazing journey from a self-professed non-runner, using the "run a lamppost, walk a lamppost" method, to taking on one of the world's toughest mountain races, the Dragon's Back.This isn't just a race report; it's a powerful story about resilience, community, and the mental fortitude required to face down your dragons. Gilly talks candidly about her first attempt at the Dragon's Back in 2023, which ended in disappointment amid a brutal heatwave , and her courageous return this year to face the beast again in wildly different conditions.If you need a dose of inspiration and a reminder that your mindset is your greatest asset, this is the episode for you.Dragons Back Race
Join us as we dive into the wild world of ultra running with Jack Chamberlain—Austrian Alps trailblazer, former live music bar owner and Mozart 100 champion.From his first epic run with “Crazy Dave” (we all know a Crazy Dave, right?) to racing the legendary UTMB, Jack shares raw stories of triumph, setbacks, and survival in the mountains.Discover the secrets behind his training and nutrition, and find out about his 'friend of the show ' coach. Listen in to hear about the friendships, mishaps, and music that fuel his journey.It's a classic YHRF episode with Jack freely giving us insight into life at the front of the pack. An episode packed with hunners of inspiration, a dousing of honesty, and, of course, a few laughs you won’t want to miss!
Four Scots. Seven days. One unforgettable adventure.Join Bobby, James, Allan, and Scott as they take on the Pyrenees Stage Run — 220km of mountains, mishaps, and memories.This episode dives into the heart of camaraderie: from missed registrations and travel chaos to bunk bed banter, altitude struggles, and the power of a good laugh.Hear how teamwork, inside jokes, and unwavering support carried them through epic climbs, wild descents, and every challenge the Pyrenees could throw at them.If you love stories of friendship, resilience, and the magic that happens when you stick together, this is the episode for you.Bonus material, find out who really won by 11 seconds!!Link to Pyrenees Stage Run Website - www.psr.run
In this episode, we chat with Scottish ultra-running legend Izzy Cairns (née Knox). After a two-year wait, Izzy finally joins the podcast to share her incredible journey. She talks about her childhood love for running, from being timed by her auntie to joining her first club in Peebles. Izzy opens up about a life-altering accident at 21 that doctors said would end her competitive career, and her powerful determination to run again. We discuss Izzy's progression from 10Ks to marathons and the Dean Karnazes book that sparked her passion for ultra-marathons. Izzy shares memorable stories from her five Berlin 100-milers, the pride of becoming a Scottish 100K champion, and her plans for a road marathon in Malaga and another 100-miler in Chester.As mentioned in the episode Izzys Jedburgh Ultra race report
Join Steven, John, and guest Kyle Wilson for an inspiring episode of the Young Hearts Run Free podcast!Kyle shares his journey from football and boxing to becoming a top Scottish ultrarunner, revealing how he tackled his first marathon with just three weeks’ notice, learned the ropes of ultra-distance racing, and battled through setbacks to podium at the West Highland Way Race.Expect stories of wild sprint finishes, training tips, fuelling mishaps, and the camaraderie of the Greenock Glenpark Harriers.Plus, hear about Kyle’s future ambitions, race-day rituals, and the power of a good support crew. This episode is packed with motivation, practical advice, and plenty of laughs for runners of all levels.
Lace up for a wild ride as John and Steven welcome ultra-runner Iain Bethune, who went from chasing his runaway dog to conquering 200-mile races and setting Scottish backyard ultra records.Iain shares how he balances family life with four kids, a full-time job, and a running obsession that’s taken him from lunchtime jogs to winning the 2025 edition of the renowned Race Across Scotland.Expect hilarious tales of sleep deprivation, competitive couple dynamics, and fueling up on Kendall Mint Cake and crunchy peanut butter. Plus, find out why “auto-magical” is now in the dialect dictionary and why Chesney Hawkes is the ultimate running anthem. This episode is packed with laughs, inspiration, and enough trail wisdom to get you razzing around the block—or maybe signing up for your own ultra!
Welcome to the opening episode of Season 14, a.k.a. "The Hunner"—where everything’s coming up 100s!John and Stevie Boy kick things off with Marc Laithwaite, the mastermind behind the Lakeland 50 & 100, for another plunge into the world of our fav ultra-running festival, event origins, and the legendary tales (and themes) that make the Lakeland races so iconic.Ahead of the 2026 ballot entries opening expect stories about million-pound charity milestones, Uncle Terry’s unexpected celebrity status, and why Marc will never, ever run his own race (unless someone invents a Wi-Fi-enabled running vest).Whether you’re a seasoned Lakelander or just here for the banter, this launch episode sets the pace for a season packed with all things “hunner”—from finish lines to fundraising, and everything in between. Lace up, tune in, and remember... you’re the real theme this season!
In this gripping season finale, Steven and John welcome Scott Brown—ultra runner, coach, and all-round endurance powerhouse.Scott dives deep into his recent record-setting West Highland Way double: a 192-mile out-and-back run in searing heat, completed in just over 44 hours without a single minute of sleep.Hear how Scott battled sickness, hallucinations, and relentless terrain, all while supported by a dedicated crew and inspired by the memory of John Kynaston. From nutrition strategies and mental tactics to emotional family moments at the finish, this episode is a raw, inspiring look at what it takes to push human limits on Scotland’s most iconic trail.Project Back to Back Video
This week Steven and John welcome David Scott back to the podcast. David opens by sharing his ongoing work with the Fit Like Joggers Couch to 5K program, reflecting on the hundreds of runners he’s helped start their journey. The conversation quickly turns to the main topic, David’s recent adventure of running the Everest Marathon.David explains his lifelong fascination with Nepal and the Himalayas, describing how the Everest Marathon became the perfect way to mark his milestone birthday. He details the journey: flying into Kathmandu, then to the precarious Lukla airport, followed by an 11-day trek through tea houses to acclimatize for the high-altitude challenge. He highlights the beauty of the trail—no vehicles, just yaks, horses, and footpaths—and the importance of gradual acclimatization, sharing stories of fellow trekkers who battled altitude sickness but persevered.Arriving at Everest Base Camp, David describes the emotional impact of seeing Everest up close and the privilege of staying at the camp among mountaineers returning from the summit. On marathon day, he joins 200 runners at the start line, facing a course that, despite its net downhill, features over 1,200 meters of climbing, rocky steps, suspension bridges, and dramatic scenery. David recounts the physical challenge of running at altitude, the camaraderie among participants, and the unique experience of running in a kilt. He finds motivation in running alongside a new friend, Adela, and together they cross the finish line in Namche Bazaar.The episode closes with David reflecting on the sense of achievement and the supportive atmosphere at the finish, where all 200 starters completed the race. He celebrates participants determination in finishing despite struggles and encourages listeners to pursue their own “Everest,” whatever that may be. He shares the Nepalese word “pastari” (slowly, slowly) as a reminder to be patient and present, before choosing a belter of a song choice for the current playlist.
Join your fav hosts, John and Stevie Boy, on this special episode of Young Hearts Run Free as they welcome the phenomenal Caroline Turner, the triumphant 2025 winner of the Lakeland 50 ultra-marathon! From a 9th-place finish in 2019 to a dominant first-place victory, Caroline’s story is one of determination, hard work, and a love for the trails.In her very first podcast experience, this self-confessed late bloomer and busy mum opens up about her entire running journey. She shares the secrets behind her winning strategy for the Lakeland 50, the training regime that got her there, and the coaching inspiration that fueled her success. Plus, she gives invaluable tips for runners of all levels, and dishes on her go-to kit recommendations.Tune in to hear about her incredible running career, from representing England and Team GB to conquering the trails, and find out what's next for this true running powerhouse!
From running round football pitches to running round a whole island, how does that happen? Join us as we talk to the incredible Viki Smith, who recently achieved "legend status" by running the entire circumference of Menorca! Viki shares her inspiring journey tackling the gruelling 185km (115-mile) Trail Menorca Camí de Cavalls race in May 2025. From a casual holiday run to a full-blown ultra-marathon challenge, hear about the highs, the lows, and the sheer determination it took to complete this epic feat in just 34 hours and 51 minutes, finishing first in her V50 category.We chat about:How a holiday run sparked the idea to take on Menorca's ancient horse path, the Camí de Cavalls.Viki talks about about the difficulty of a 185km ultra-marathon and the 100 days she had to prepare.The brutal beauty of the Camí de Cavalls, including its varied terrain (rocky, sandy, woodland), elevation changes (around 3500m D+), and facing over 10 hours of darkness.The moments of doubt and physical struggle, including wishing for running poles, and how Viki found the mental fortitude to keep going.The importance of her 'support team' Andy and Dale, in planning and executing this foreign racing adventure. The overwhelming emotion of completing the full circuit of Menorca and earning "legend status." What's next for Viki after conquering such a monumental challenge.Viki's advice for anyone considering taking on an ultra-marathon or a similar long-distance trail.Trail Menorca Camí de CavallsGreenock Glenpark Harriers
What does it take to run the length of an entire archipelago, facing down the wild Atlantic winds with every step? Wildheart and endurance athlete Muriel Dempsie joins us to recount her monumental run along the Hebridean Way in June 2025.While many choose to cycle this iconic route, Muriel took onthe ultimate challenge: traversing all 185 miles (297 km) across 10 islands on foot. This is a story of pure grit, meticulous planning, and the kind of profound connection to the landscape that only comes from experiencing it at arunner's pace.In this gripping episode, listen as Muriel shares: The Motivation: What drove her to attempt such a physically and mentally demanding feat.The Grind: The realities of a multi-day ultramarathon—managing nutrition, navigating challenging terrain, and finding the mental fortitude to push through the toughest miles.The Magic: Unforgettable moments of raw beauty, from running alongside deserted white-sand beaches at dawn to the unparalleled warmth and kindness of the Hebridean communities.Lessons from the Edge: Her key takeaways on gear, resilience, and what she learned about herself out on the wild edge of Scotland.This is a must-listen for any runner, adventurer, or anyonewho has ever felt the call of Scotland's wild isles. Muriel's incredible story will inspire you to find your own limits and push right past them.Breast Foot Forward Fundraiser
What does a Sunday morning long run have in common with a church service? Where would you hear Jasmin Paris and the Barkley marathons mentioned in an inspirational sermon?In this unique and inspiring episode, we sit down with The Right Reverend Dr Helen-Ann Hartley, the Bishop of Newcastle, to explore the profound and often surprising links between the physical discipline of running and the spiritual practice of faith.Bishop Helen-Ann shares how lacing up her trainers is not just for physical fitness, but for her mental and spiritual well-being as she leads the diocese. We discuss how the grit and endurance required for a marathon mirrors the perseverance needed in a life of faith and how the simple act of moving through the stunning landscapes of the North East can be a powerful encounter with the divine.Whether you're a person of faith, a dedicated runner, or simply curious about how our physical and spiritual lives intersect, this conversation offers a refreshing and deeply human perspective on finding meaning in motion.The Right Reverend Dr Helen-Ann Hartley is a passionate runner, frequently participating in events like the Great North Run and using her running as a time for reflection and prayer.We talk about a love for running, football, the outdoors and life in general. Be prepared to be moved in many ways, and you may find yourself lacing up your running shoes and getting out for a run with the Bishop of Newcastle in your ears, and that’s a very good thing. Enjoy.Diocese of Newcastle: https://www.newcastle.anglican.org/The Great North Run: https://www.greatrun.org/events/great-north-run/Follow Bishop Helen-Ann on:Instagram: @bishopofnewcastle X (formerly Twitter): @BishopNewcastle
In this episode we welcome back Debbie Martin Consani, a living legend of ultra-running and multi-time GB/Scotland international.Debbie’s impressive career, includes wins at races like the Montane Winter Spine Race, Lakeland 100, and Thames Path 100.Debbie’s most recent race finish was at at the 2025 Western States 100 – a legendary 100-mile endurance run, finishing in 27:16:48, 155th overall and 27th female, and 2nd in her age category. We speak about Debbie’s motivation for Western States and how her training differed to other ultras. We hear about specific training for heat acclimation and quad-bashing descents, balancing training with her full-time job and coaching and about the key workouts or long runs that gave her confidence. Did Debbie go in with a specific time goal or a more process-oriented approach? What were her plans for pacing, nutrition, and hydration? How did those plans work out…or not?How did she prepare for the inevitable highs and lows of a 100-mile race, particularly one as demanding as Western States? How did she cope with the extreme temperatures? We discuss the challenging sections like the canyons and some of the biggest difficulties to overcome. How important were the aid stations to her race? What did Debbie focus on consuming?The Final Miles: We hear all about what was going through Debbie’s mind as she approached Auburn and the track.Crossing that Finish Line…Debbie describes the feeling of earning that buckle, and what was the immediate aftermath like?Who inspires Debbie Martin Consani…listen in to find out!
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Iain Dick, whorecently completed the formidable 2025 Cape Wrath Ultra! Iain will take us on an incredible journey through 400km of the Scottish Highlands, sharing the highs, lows, and unforgettable moments of this epic 8-day expedition race. We'll delve into the physical and mental challenges of one of the UK's toughest ultras, discover what it takes to navigate such remote terrain, and hear firsthand about the camaraderie and unique experience of the Cape Wrath Ultra.What drew Iain to this particular race? Was it a long-helddream or a more recent challenge he set for himself? How did Iain prepare for an 8-day, 400km multi-stage race with significant elevation gain (12,852m or 42,165 ft)!A glimpse into each stage – from the start in Fort Williamto the dramatic finish at Cape Wrath Lighthouse. What were the most memorable days, and which proved the toughest, navigating diverse landscapes – bogs, mountains, lochs, and river crossings. How did Iain cope with the varied and often technical underfoot conditions?The infamous Scottish weather – did it live up to itsreputation? How did temperature, rain, and wind impact the race? How did Iain deal with the cumulative fatigue, aches and pains over eight consecutive days of running.We hear about the unique experience of the overnight camps – copious amounts of food, recovery, tent life, and the shared experience with fellow participants.What did Iain discover about himself during the Cape WrathUltra? Any unexpected takeaways? Also included are tips for anyone considering taking on this epic challenge in the future. Don't miss this incredible story of endurance, determination, and the breathtaking beauty of the Scottish Highlands!Iain's 2025 Cape Wrath Ultra Result, 18th place in 58:27:07Full ResultsCape Wrath Ultra Official Website
In this episode, we dive into the incredible journeys of Gillian McGale and Catherine Cowie as they recount their experiences in the gruelling Montane Summer Spine Race 2025. From personal milestones to overcoming physical and mental challenges, their stories are a testament to resilience and determination.The Montane Summer Spine Race is a grueling, non-stop ultra-marathon covering the entire 268-mile (431 km) length of the Pennine Way, widely dubbed "Britain's Most Brutal" endurance race. It starts in Edale, Derbyshire, and finishes in Kirk Yetholm in the Scottish Borders.Participants have a time limit of 156 hours (6.5 days) to complete the course, which involves approximately 10,732 meters (35,210 feet) of ascent. Unlike staged races, the Spine is continuous, meaning runners race through day and night, managing their own sleep, nutrition, and safety. Participants are allowed to utilise public amenities like cafes and pubs along the route, but no individual support crews are permitted.Gillian had decided it would be a great way to celbrate her 50th birthday, which coincided with the race start date of Sunday 15 June. For Catherine it was a return to face again the foe of the Pennine Way. We discuss the detailed preparation from both, the kit, the recces, the socks, the shoes, the ...everything!It's an invigorating, inspirational but also a 'what the hell' listen of determination, heroics and sleep deprived journey from Edale to Kirk Yetholm.Did we mention lasagne?
In this episode, we sit down with Rebecca Hormann, winner of the 2025 West Highland Way Race. Rebecca shares her journey, the challenges she faced, and the triumphs she celebrated along the 96-mile trail from Milngavie to Fort William. Tune in to hear about her training regimen, race day experiences, and what it takes to be a champion in one of Scotland's most gruelling ultra-marathon.We discuss Rebecca’s background and how she got into ultra-running, her globetrotting, previous achievements across a multi discipline of races. We look at an overview of the WHW  race and its significance, how Rebecca preparation and training leading up to the race, by running 146 mile at a backyard a few weeks before!The discussion around key moments and turning points during the race is quite fascinating, we hear about the early lead by previous winner Ally McGill and how Rebecca managed to close the gap Challenges faced along the route, including the heat and terrain , strategies for maintaining focus and motivation during long-distance races, coping with physical strain and mental fatigue.We speak about the role of Rebecca's support crew Jack and Jarlath and their contributions to her success.Rebecca’s key takeaways from the 2025 race and her plans for future races and personal goals are followed by Rebecca's advice for aspiring ultra-runners with some final thoughts and words of encouragement.Take an hour and a half out of your day or lace up and take Rebecca with you on your run, this is a belter, a not to be missed episode from YHRF. Enjoy.Rebecca’s Instagram
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