The People of Digital Marketing

“KPIs are soulless numbers and a lot of people focus on KPIs…” My guest today is Todd Wheeler. Todd makes the complicated understandable, to help companies not only grow but to thrive. With almost 50 years of business building experience, from startup companies to Fortune 500 giants, Todd has taught business leaders how to understand the causes of critical issues in the business environment. Todd was engaged by 25-year-old marketing agency to help them identify issues that kept them stuck. He was able to identify that the team had the right people but, they were in the wrong positions. This is just one of many examples of how he was able to change a company for the better, by helping them to discover and reveal their own hidden wisdom, creating a path to success. He would summarize his job as, “helping people become the best versions of themselves.” Say hi to Todd via his email: todd@mangagementinsight.co

“When you’re doing virtual [events], depending on how complex this technology is that you’re using—some people may not event make it through the ‘door.’” Erica Maurer is an entrepreneur, owner, creator, event planner, speaker, and licensed therapist. She is a Partner at EMRG Media, a leading events, marketing, production, and creative agency. Erica is also a Partner and Producer of The Event Planner Expo, New York City’s largest events and hospitality industry trade show. Erica and her team fully adapted their business when the pandemic hit to service the corporate, social, and non-profit sectors with custom virtual event experiences. You can learn more about Erica using the links below⬇️ EMRG Media: https://emrgmedia.com Email: events@emrgmedia.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/EricaMaurer7 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-maurer-687696 Free downloadable resource for how to market virtual events: https://bookevents.com Psst… If you want to listen to more episodes on marketing for virtual events check out episode #6 and episode #33!

“We go about speaking to people about the end result, versus trying to educate them on the hemp plant.” Amanda founded House of Wise after realizing the potential of CBD oil in her life. Despite what you might assume, she wasn't always totally on board with CBD. Until recently, she had never used any cannabis products. Amanda was born in a conservative Midwestern home and is a former group-fitness instructor, marathoner, and overall health nut. Over the past two years, she has navigated a divorce while being a mom of three children and working as a VP of marketing at a major wedding industry brand (The Knot Worldwide). Amanda turned to CBD out of desperation, and it has truly changed her life. Much of the world still has a stigma around cannabis products (aka CBD and THC). Amanda wants to change this while empowering women to control their sleep, sex, stress, and wealth with House of Wise. In this episode, we talk about why Amanda is moving to Miami, her biggest failure as a founder, how she markets through the stigmas that are associated with cannabis products, the regulatory constraints behind marketing cannabis and sex products, why she didn’t go with the Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) strategy to sell her product, why founders should be using Twitter to promote their businesses, her work at Teal HQ, what a fractional CMO is, and more. Connect with Amanda on Instagram, Twitter or on LinkedIn. If you're interested in the 8-week lesson series for marketing careers, hosted by Teal HQ, click here to learn more about the program.

“No one will slap your hand for saying, ‘I want to hear from customers more often.’” Melissa Moody is a full-stack marketing executive and entrepreneur with a passion for user-first products, and a talent for creating clarity from chaos. Her background includes 14 years in large-partner marketing at Google, taking on her former role as CMO & Cofounder at SaaS startup Gated, and being the host of the “2 Pizza Marketing” Podcast for small-team marketers. She is also the Cofounder of Wednesday Women, which raises visibility for extraordinary women leaders and now the CEO of Match.so. Questions and topics we covered include: Lessons in marketing while working at Google The Founder/CMO dynamic The biggest challenge that comes from transitioning from expert IC to 1st-time marketing leader?  Why the marketing team needs to own research and development The value of customer advisory boards (CABs) Challenges of working within small marketing teams What Melissa has learned from hosting her own marketing podcast How to scale a network of advocates for your career growth What’s the biggest challenge marketers are facing in 2024? And more! Connect with Melissa via LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissammoody/ You can say hello to me on LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com Here’s the episode with Alex Levin that I mentioned during the show - https://www.kennysoto.com/podcast/b2c-marketers-leverage-key-marketing-channel-alex-levin-episode-129/

Mike Grinberg is the Founder and CEO of Proofpoint Marketing. Mike Grinberg is a creative problem solver at heart, who happened to fall into marketing. The core problem Mike sees right now is technology and automation removing the human element from the way we build businesses and how we go-to-market. Mike believes that relationships are still the key to business success, and he’s built his consulting business on people-first principles. Questions and topics we covered include: What’s wrong with most GTM models today? Mike’s definition of the buyer’s journey as it stands in 2024 Defining Relationship-Led Growth How to get this GTM motion started? What’s the core difference of general Sales-led and account-based GTM motions? How relationship-led growth supports other marketing functions. How AI could be incorporated  into Relationship-led GTM How to measure the success of this GTM strategy And more! Connect with Mike via LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikegrinberg/ You can say hello to me on LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

Adrianna Vidal is a community manager and content marketer. She broke into tech in 2021 after working in retail and apartment leasing, and now works as a Community Marketing Manager at Bigeye, a data software company. She’s a marketer just like you, trying to make her mark and succeed in her career. Questions and topics we covered include: Adrianna’s story on how she became a marketer Her advice for marketers entering a new experience and how to “show up” on day one… Why should businesses care about building a community in the first place? What does the ideal community look like? What are the core differences for community building for individuals/creators and brands? Adrianna’s approach to building her personal brand on LinkedIn How should marketers approach pivots in their careers? The core skills Adrianna’s focusing on when it comes to career development as a marketer… And more! Connect with Adrianna via LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianna-vidal/ You can say hello to me on LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

Leah Kovach Margolis is a growth marketer with 10+ years of experience growing revenue for pre-seed through series C companies. Currently, she's the Director of Demand Generation at Hypar, a generative design platform for the AEC industry. Outside of work, Leah recently wrapped up an MBA from the NYU Stern School of Business.  Questions and topics we covered include: How does someone get their first job in marketing? What interview questions should marketers be preparing for? What questions should marketers ask before taking a job? How does someone even succeed in their first marketing job? The unique challenges that come from marketing at different stages of a company’s lifecycle  Being a generalist T-shaped marketer vs specializing Being more useful to the team—building institutional knowledge and industry know-how When is the right time to walk away from a company and move on? Should marketers get an MBA? And more! Connect with Leah via LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahkovach/  You can say hello to me on LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

“People notice something wrong in their business, the root cause is that something is wrong in their business but they start looking for tech as almost like a distraction…buying Martech is a silver bullet for Martech problems but, not business problems.” Brian Kotlyar is the VP of Marketing and Growth at Hightouch.com (a CDP and data activation platform), where he leads the company’s marketing strategy and is responsible for driving growth and customer acquisition. Prior to his role at Hightouch, Brian held the position of SVP of Marketing at New Relic, where he played a pivotal role in leading the company’s marketing efforts during a period of rapid growth and a successful IPO. He helped triple the growth rate of the company and oversaw numerous product launches and marketing initiatives. He also served as Head of Marketing at Intercom, where he helped the company build a world-class marketing team. Throughout his career, Brian has worked extensively in building and growing multiple B2B startups successfully. Questions and topics we covered include: Brian’s explanation of consumption pricing and how this concept helped him in his marketing career Is a better Martech stack the secret to fixing a company’s growth problems? What is a CDP and why should marketers care about them? How does this type of tool affect our work? Traditional vs composable CDPs How to justify the purchase of a CDP? What is a data warehouse and how does it differ from a CDP? Why do most data and marketing teams have bad relationships with each other? How do we make these relationships better? And more! You can learn more about HighTouch at - https://hightouch.com Connect with Brian via LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/briankotlyar/  You can say hello to me on LinkedIn at - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

Laura Johns is the founder and CEO of The Business Growers, a marketing firm serving the B2B telecom, SaaS, IT, and cloud-services industries. For 18 years, Laura managed marketing efforts for companies ranging from tech startups to global, multi-billion dollar businesses. She spent nearly half her career serving as a corporate marketing executive in the telecom industry before starting The Business Growers. Her career focus is developing marketing strategies for tech companies that lead to tangible success. Today, The Business Growers serves over 50 clients in 15 states. Laura has been honored as “Top 50 under 40” and “Top 50 Leading Women in Business” in her home state of Mississippi. Today, she is a member of the Leadership Mississippi program, an honor bestowed on a select by the Mississippi Economic Council. She is also the co-founder and host of “The Home and The Hustle” podcast for working moms and “The Know, Grow and Scale” videocast and podcast for entrepreneurs. Questions and topics we covered Include: What made Laura decide to strike out on her own What Laura wishes she had known before starting her agency The 3 consistent marketing priorities for a B2B tech company (regardless of company stage) How to grow your business without a full-time marketing team Two key ways to identify your company’s brand What conditions need to be met for a business to consider outsourcing its marketing? Qualities to look for when hiring new team members How marketing has evolved… The #1 marketing challenge The Business Growers is facing this year. And more! You can connect with Laura through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurapickardjohns/ And you can also connect with me through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

Ben previously led the Marketing Sciences Group at KS&R, a nationally recognized strategic consultancy and marketing research firm. Through quantitative research, Ben and his team help to empower businesses to make better decisions with confidence. With his extensive knowledge of advanced analytical methods and wide-ranging industry experience, he has become a trusted partner for clients looking to solve complex business problems. Outside of work, Ben enjoys quality time with his children in the kitchen, gardening, and playing volleyball when the weather in upstate New York permits. Questions and topics we covered include: An explanation of marketing science How does market research affect a business's growth in the long term? Why is it important? Why message testing and optimization are vital to gaining insights How to convince your boss to invest in Message Testing How does a team get started with message testing? At what size of an organization should a team consider message testing? The ideal frequency and cadence of message testing experiments Who owns market research and message testing in the marketing team? What are market simulators, how are they useful, and at what size of a company should they be used? The basics of conjoint analysis in market research. And more! You can connect with Ben through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bcortese/  And you can also connect with me through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

“[Community] sits before Demand Gen. in the funnel…[Community] doesn’t actually generate revenue. I create an environment that makes generating revenue easier.” Evan Patterson is a B2B marketing consultant, freelancer, startup advisor, content creator, and fractional leader for forward-thinking, progressive businesses.  Outside of B2B marketing, Evan focuses on enabling minority voices in tech and fighting injustices targeted at the LGBTQ+ community. Questions and topics we covered include: Community as a marketing role defined  Some examples of what Community is not? When did this new job get created? What’s the difference between B2B community marketing and B2C community marketing? How to justify the investment into Community marketing? Why is most of Evan’s role as a Community Marketer is spent working internally on his team The similarities between a Community / Evangelism role and a PR agency (when it comes to media training) How a Community role helps to reduce internal friction between marketing and sales How Evan measures success with his unique role And more! You can connect with Evan through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanpatterson/ And you can also connect with me through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

“The empathy that you have to exhibit and learn in sales on a 1-to-1 basis, that only helps you when you’re trying to go 1-to-many…” Zoë Hartsfield is a Salesperson trapped in a Marketer's body. She spends her 9-5 running executive evangelism programs, managing influencer relationships and creating content. She spends her 5-9 running, traveling and again, creating content. Check her out at @nottoocorporate on TikTok and Instagram, or give her a follow on LinkedIn for her thoughts on sales, marketing, mental health, and career development in the tech industry. Questions and topics we covered include: The advice she has for anyone who wants a marketing job and is coming from sales, support, etc. Her red flags to look out for when applying to a marketing jobs How to leverage sales experience in a new marketing role What does it mean to be an evangelist? “Community” as a role in a marketing team… Should a community function and a customer advisory board go hand-in-hand? The most important business skill marketers should be learning today, but they’re probably ignoring… How can marketers help create sales collateral that actually gets used? What should marketers look for when selecting/recommending software to add to the MarTech Stack? Does every marketer need a side hustle? And more! You can connect with Zoë through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoehart/ And you can also connect with me through LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

Eric Dodds is the Head of Product Marketing at RudderStack and the Co-Host of the podcast Data Stack. He has over a decade of experience working with and implementing customer data infrastructure. He aims to make people’s lives better through the work he does each day. Questions and topics we covered include: What do marketers need to know about data stacks? How does it affect their work? How data teams and marketing teams can work together to produce great business outcomes? How to define product marketing’s role within the broader context of a company How to impress a marketing leader What’s RudderStack’s biggest marketing challenge heading into 2024 And more! Connect with Eric on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericdodds/ Connect with me on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ If you want a deeper dive into product marketing, check out episode #140 with April Dunford - https://www.kennysoto.com/podcast/masterclass-product-positioning-april-dunford-140/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, Margaret Kelsey, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

Margaret has spent the last decade building scalable, effective marketing programs—and teams—for B2B SaaS companies like OpenView, Appcues, and InVision. She now advises founders on how to do the same. She also co-hosts a weekly podcast called "Don't Say Content" with Devin Bramhall.  Questions and topics we covered include: Why Margaret took the plunge to become a soloprenuer?  Her recommendations for where to upskill as a marketer The characteristics of high-performing marketing teams?  Why marketing teams need to have fun to thrive.  The importance of knowing the differences between “Shared Language” and Institutional Knowledge… The key questions individual contributors should be asking their bosses to get a better understanding of company strategy… The skills Margaret would be learning this year if she had to start her career now… Why founder-led marketing still works, regardless of company size… How to think about “playbooks”… What are the major pitfalls that arise within the Head of Marketing and CEO relationship? Why is it important to have a focus on longer timelines as you move up the management ladder? Why strategy is supposed to take into account triaging “urgent” tasks… And more! Connect with Margaret on Linkedin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/  Connect with me on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Here’s Margaret’s podcast if you want to get even more of her knowledge - https://www.dontsaycontent.com Want to learn the best ways you can produce and grow an effective podcast for your business in 2024? Check out https://www.brandpodcastsummit.com!  On January 24th we're hosting The Brand Podcast Summit, a free-to-attend virtual event designed exclusively for marketers and comms people to succeed in podcasting in 2024. Speakers include Ann Handley, Rand Fishkin, podcast producers from NPR, the BBC, podcast growth pros, AI and automation experts…One attendee also has the chance to get $500's worth of podcast equipment! Shoutout to a previous guest of the show, Harry Morton, for sharing this. Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

“Half of marketing is marketing internally so you can get buy-in…and as the org gets bigger, that job gets harder.” The main theme of this episode focuses on: people, tools, and processes… George Huff, the CEO of Opal, leads a MarTech platform used by well-known brands like Target, Starbucks, Whole Foods, 3M, and SAP. Opal’s content operations platform produces exceptional results, such as enabling Target to tell their story and create 300 pieces of content every day. George’s career began in design and technology, but his curiosity about how captivating brands create stories led to the formation of Opal. He surrounds himself with talented individuals and empowers them to find the best solutions. Under George’s leadership, Opal continually innovates to help brands drive results and create meaningful connections with their customers. Questions and topics we covered include: Why is brand alignment so important and the classic struggle with internal silos The context that every marketer needs to have to be successful, in any team they’re in What sets Opal apart from other content management products How does team culture affect the success of a marketing initiative Why being able to handle criticism is the best skill for a marketer to learn The rituals and routines the Opal team does to help keep momentum going Why your manager wants you to be good at selling ideas And more! Checkout Opal - https://workwithopal.com  Connect with George on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgehuff/ Connect with me on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/ Past guests of The People of Digital Marketing include April Dunford, Amanda Goetz, Melissa Rosenthal, Bill Macaitis, Miruna Dragomir, Andrew Capland, Erik Newton, Andy Crestodina, Sarah Bedrick, Michael Wieder, Dan McGaw, Kathleen Booth, Foti Panagiotakopoulos, Tommy Walker, Lea Pica, Maya Grossman, Sara Pion, and more. Music for this podcast comes from www.davidcuttermusic.com

This episode is for all of my Product Marketing friends 👋🏼… April Dunford is the world’s leading expert on product positioning. She works with fast-growing tech companies helping them clearly articulate the value they alone can deliver to customers. She is the author of the bestselling positioning book Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get it, Buy it, Love it. She also recently published a new book titled, Sales P!tch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win which is available for purchase on Amazon. Questions and topics we covered include: What’s product positioning? How does it differ from brand positioning? What happens when a team doesn’t have solid product positioning? (Marketing and sales) Who should own product positioning? How does positioning change when there are multiple products and multiple personas? When speaking to customers to hone positioning, what are the best questions to ask them? Why you have to include the other solutions out in the market when trying to sell. The events that occur in a business’s lifecycle, that can make your team revisit your product’s positioning… And more Learn more about April through her LinkedIn, website, or podcast below: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ https://www.aprildunford.com/  https://www.positioning.show/ Connect with me on LinkedIn here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/

Michael is a trained econometrician with experience in causal inference in fields ranging from healthcare outcomes to environmental economics. He previously built the marketing science team at men’s grooming brand Harry’s before co-founding Recast. He spends his days helping brands eliminate their wasted marketing spend… Questions and topics we covered include: The different methods of measuring marketing’s performance (attribution is only one of many methods)… Do attribution tools lie to you? The difference between "attribution" and “incrementality” The relationship between measurement and forecasting when it comes to marketing How to use Marketing Mix Modeling (MMM) alongside Multi-touch attribution (MTA) How to get your work measured if you’re not a performance marketer Will 100% certainty in measurement ever be possible? And more! Connect with Michael on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-the-data-guy-kaminsky/  Connect with me on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto 

Alexis Rivera Scott is the founder of Verbatim, a digital marketing agency, as well as The Fairy Job Mom, a consultancy focused on helping professionals become Eternally Employable. She guides job seekers in their next career move, helps professionals build memorable personal brands, and introduces companies to amazing talent. Throughout her career, Alexis has successfully navigated career change and adaptation, with a vast range of industry experiences from hospitality sales, to technology marketing, to recruiting, and partnerships. She is passionate about empowering people to achieve their goals and grow within their careers - whatever they might be! In her free time, you can find Alexis creating content on LinkedIn, traveling across the world with her family, and thrift shopping for treasures. Questions and topics we covered include: Alexis’ approach to scaling her audience and engagement on LinkedIn The easiest way to scale your LinkedIn following—the comments section of other influencers How to handle being laid off and what to do when it happens The common mistakes Alexis sees candidates make when applying for jobs (what’s the opposite of being “eternally employable?”) What makes marketing resumes suck How to get a marketing job with no prior experience How to find the unposted / hidden jobs Why are Slack communities so important And more! Connect with Alexis on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexisjscott/ Connect with me on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto 

Jaclyn Mullen has mentored close to 1,000 marketers throughout her entire career across her time teaching at General Assembly, speaking for USC's Masters of Marketing Science program, and building her own teams. Professionally she has spent the past 15+ years riding the digital wave, first starting off in content marketing and organic social in B2C before switching to B2B SaaS. Now at her 4th startup, Jaclyn loves her place as Head of Marketing for TheLoops, an AI platform improving CX, where she handles every aspect of the company’s marketing. Questions and topics we covered include: The skills needed to do well in your first role as a marketing leader The basics of B2B marketing strategy How freelancing experience translates to management skills Should marketing have a revenue goal? What are the necessary metrics that marketers should eat, breathe, and sleep? Why is it important for marketers to understand the business fundamentals of their organization? How much does courage have to do with your career growth? Basic networking tips every marketer needs to know And more! Connect with Jaclyn on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaclynofalltrades/ Connect with me on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto 

Jessica Kogan, a visionary digital brand innovator, began her illustrious career launching strategies for brands like Donna Karan, Urban Decay, and Elizabeth Arden. Over the years, she's carved digital niches for powerhouses like Prada, Giorgio Armani, and Chevron, and co-founded the digital-native business, Cameron Hughes Wine. As the force behind Vintage Wine Estates' digital transformation, she cemented its position as a leader in DTC adult beverage sales when she was their Chief Growth & Chief Experience Officer. Now as the Founder & CDO of "The Digital Voice", Jessica along with her cofounder Jennifer Kowskie, continues to shape digital-first brand narratives. Her expertise, recognized in Wine Business Monthly and featured in Forbes and Fox Business, makes her a sought-after voice in the industry. Other notable clients that Jessica has done marketing for in the past includes Anheuser-Busch, Diageo, Heineken, Tito’s, L'Oreal, LVMH, and Nike. Questions and topics we covered include: The role of Chief Experience Officer defined and how it differs from CMO How has the DTC market evolved over time—from user behavior to industry trends, marketing strategy, and more? How is the brick-and-mortar store going to compete in the future? How does a business’s brand affects their retail strategy and how it stays consistent both in digital and physical experiences? How to change a brand’s messaging over time, based on changing market dynamics? How can brands identify, maintain, and capitalize on customer advocacy over time?  And more! You can connect with Jessica here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-kogan-43a455/  Connect with me on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennysoto/