Overtired

Brett and Christina host an OG episode. Christina talks about her upcoming spinal surgery and navigating insurance hassles. Brett talks about his sleep issues, project progress, and coding routines. They dive into the complexities of USB-C cables, from volts to data rates. And TV’s just ‘okay’ now, except for some softcore gay porn. Kagi search saves the day. Happy holidays — and get some sleep. Sponsor Copilot Money can help you take control of your finances. Get a fresh start with your money for 2026 with 26% off when you visit try.copilot.money/overtired and use code OVERTIRED. Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all eCommerce in the US, from household names like Mattel and Gymshark, to brands just getting started. Get started today at shopify.com/overtired. Show Links CaberQu BLE cable tester Umami Analytics Plausible Analytics Kagi The Comfortable Problem of Mid TV – The New York Times Fallout Heated Rivalry (TV Series 2025– ) – IMDb Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:40 Christina’s Health Update 05:05 Brett’s Sleep and Work Routine 12:19 USB-C Cable Confusion 22:03 Sponsor Break: Shopify 24:26 Sponsor Break: Copilot Money 26:57 Exploring Rocket Money and Web Interfaces 27:21 Discovering Umami Analytics 28:06 Nostalgia for Mint and Fever 28:44 The Decline of RSS and Google Reader 31:45 Switching to Kagi Search Engine 32:33 The Rise of AI-Generated Content 40:46 TV Shows: Is TV Just Okay Now? 47:24 The Cultural Phenomenon of Heated Rivalry 52:50 Wrapping Up and Holiday Wishes Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Universal Serial Bitching Introduction and Greetings [00:00:00] Brett: Hey, you’re listening to Overtired. I am Brett Terpstra, and it’s just me and Christina Warren this morning. How you doing, Christina? Christina: Doing pretty good. Doing pretty good. Yeah. This is the, this is the OG Overtired configuration. Brett: right back to basics. Um, Christina: We do miss you Jeff, though. Ho, ho, ho. Hope that Jeff is having a great holiday with his family. Brett: we’ll have to have some, uh, gratuitous Wiki K hole that you go down just to, to commemorate the olden days. Um, so yeah, let’s, uh, let’s, let’s do a quick check-in. Christina’s Health Update Brett: Um, I’m curious about your health and all of the wildness that’s going on with your spine and whatnot. Christina: Yeah. Yeah. Um, same. I wanna hear about you too. Um, so, uh, Christina’s cervical spine update, as it were. Um, I am [00:01:00] still waiting to, as we’re recording this, which is like. Uh, three days before Christmas, uh, I’m still waiting to hear from the, uh, hospital to see if I can, when I can get scheduled. Um, insurance has sort of been a pain in the ass, so when I talked to them last week, they were like, we sent them some paperwork. We’re still waiting for some things back then. I called the insurance company and the, the, uh, like my insurance is like, has like an intermediary service that is supposed to contact the insurance company on your behalf and that person, but like, I can’t contact them directly. And then that person was like, oh, you don’t need pre-authorization. Go ahead and schedule the surgery. And I’m like, this doesn’t feel right. Um, so, but, but we, we went ahead and we called back the, you know, the, the surgeon, um, his office and they were very nice and we were like. They say that we can get on the books. So I don’t know when that will be. I’m hoping that it will be, you know, like the first week of January, um, or, or, or thereabouts. Um, but I don’t know. Um, [00:02:00] so I am still kind of in this like limbo stage where I don’t know exactly when I’m gonna have the surgery, except hopefully soon. And, um, and, and for anyone who hasn’t caught up, I, uh, I have a bulging disc on C seven on my cervical spine, and I’m going to get a, um, artificial disc replacement. Um, so they’re gonna take out the, you know, bulging bone and all that and put in, uh, some synthetic piece and then hopefully that will immediately relieve the, the pain that has been primarily through the left side of, uh, my arm and my shoulder, um, uh, down through my fingers. But it’s been on my right side a little bit too. So hopefully when that is done, it’ll be a relatively short recovery. Um, I’ll have an early scar and um, I will be, you know, not. Uh, the pain right now, like the levels aren’t terrible, but I’m pretty numb, uh, on my, my, my left arm, my, my right arm, um, uh, or right fingers I guess too, but, but really it’s, it’s, uh, the, the, the left side [00:03:00] that’s the worst. And traveling. Um, I’m, I’m in Atlanta with my family right now and, you know, kind of doing other things is just not, it’s not great. So, um, hopefully I’ll be getting surgery sooner rather than later. But obviously all that stuff does impact your mental health too, when you’re in pain and, and you, you know, are freaked out too about, you know, like, even though like they do, you know, it, it’s not an uncommon surgery and, and it, and it should be fine, but you know, there’s always these things in the back of your mind. You’re like, okay, well what if something goes wrong or whatever. So I’m just, I’m looking forward to, um, you know, light at the end of the tunnel, but um, still kind of in a holding pattern with that. So Brett: Wow. So that scar’s, that scar’s gonna be on your throat. Christina: Yeah, Brett: Wow. Christina: yeah. Like probably like. No, not really. I’m, I mean, I’m hoping that it’ll be, uh, like no, it really won’t be at all. Brett: I, I, I would like to have it. I can understand why you wouldn’t. Christina: yeah, I mean, you know, I will obviously, you know, uh, hopefully it’ll be like low enough to be [00:04:00] primarily covered by shirts or other things, although, who knows? ’cause I do like to wear like, lower cut things sometimes. I don’t know. It, it’ll hopefully, you Brett: I heard chokers are coming back. Christina: Yeah, I don’t, unfortunately. I think it’s gonna be too, uh, low for that. Brett: Okay. Christina: uh, like, it, it’s gonna be, I think like it might hit against my laryn is, is what they say. That’s the other thing too. I might have, you know, some hoarseness after, won’t we permanent? Um, you know, knock on wood. Um, Brett: go on Etsy, you can get, um, they’re for BDSM, they’re like neck, uh, they hold your chin up. They’re like posture enhancers. Uh, but they sell them within leather with like corset straps. ’cause they’re like A-B-D-S-M accessory. That would work. Christina: No, no. Not even once. Uh, not even once. I mean, look, a good group of people who wanna do that, uh, I I will not be wearing a collar of any sort of that sort of thing. Uh, I, I, I don’t, I don’t really wanna, wanna be part [00:05:00] of, uh, one of that, those types of, you know, uh, Harlequin romance novels. , Brett’s Sleep and Work Routine Brett: All right, well, I will go ahead and check in. Um, I, I’m sleeping really well for like two days at a time, and then I’ll have. A string of like five or six hours of sleep, which isn’t nothing. Um, but it’s not quite enough for me to not feel tired all the time. And two nights of sleep is not enough for me to catch up on sleep. And, um, so I’m kind of, this has been going on for like a year though, so it’s, I’m just kind of, I’m used to it and I’ve learned to operate pretty well on six or seven hours of sleep, even though historically like I need eight and a half. Um, but I’m doing okay and I get up about four every morning and I start coding and I usually code from like four to noon, so an eight [00:06:00] hour workday, uh, with a breakfast somewhere in there. And, um, I’ve made really good progress. Marked is, as far as I can tell, ready to go wide with the beta. Um. I think I’ve solved every bug that’s been reported so far. I only have about a hundred testers right now, um, but I’m gonna open it up, uh, try to get maybe a thousand testers for a couple weeks and then go for a live release. The biggest thing that I’m running into is problems with getting the, like free trial and the purchase mechanisms working, which is the exact same thing that’s holding up NV Ultra right now. Um, so if I can figure it out for Mark, I can port it to NV Ultra. I can have two apps out there making money, hopefully never have to get a job again. Um, I’m teamed up right now with Dan Peterson, formerly of One Password. Um, and we’re [00:07:00] working on some iOS apps and. And, uh, apex. My, my, all my Universal markdown processor is, it’s coming along really well. I’ve, I’ve put it out there. Um, I’ve talked to John Gruber a little bit about it. He’s gonna give it more of a workout and get back to me. Um, but I think, I think it’s getting to a point where I would be comfortable integrating it into Mark and even talking to some other, uh, apps about using it as their default processor, um, and kind of alleviating some of the issues people run into with, uh, differences in syntax. Um, I. I, I, I talked to Devon, think, uh, Eric from Devon think about using it. ’cause they use multi markdown right now, uh, which has a lot of cool features, but is not [00:08:00] really in sync with what most of the web is using these days. Um, so I talked to them about it and they’re like, oh, we had the exact same idea and we’re almost done with our own universal processor. Um, and theirs is gonna output like RTF and things that I don’t need apex to do. ’cause you can just pipe apex into panoc and do everything you need. So anyway, I’m, I’m tired. I’m, I’m in good spirits. I. I’m dealing f

The Overtired trio reunites for the first time in ages, diving into a whirlwind of health updates, hilarious anecdotes, and the latest tech obsessions. Christina shares a dramatic spinal saga while Brett and Jeff discuss everything from winning reddit contests to creating a universal markdown processor. Tune in for updates on Mark 3, the magical world of Scrivener, and why Brett’s back on Bing. Don’t miss the banter or the tech tips, and as always, get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe feel a little overtired yourself. Sponsor Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all eCommerce in the US, from household names like Mattel and Gymshark, to brands just getting started. Get started today at shopify.com/overtired. Chapters 00:00 Welcome to the Overtired Podcast 01:09 Christina’s Health Journey 10:53 Brett’s Insurance Woes 15:38 Jeff’s Mental Health Update 24:07 Sponsor Spot: Shopify 24:18 Sponsor: Shopify 26:23 Jeff Tweedy 27:43 Jeff’s Concert Marathon 32:16 Christina Wins Big 36:58 Monitor Setup Challenges 37:13 Ergotron Mounts and Tall Poles 38:33 Review Plans and Honest Assessments 38:59 Current Display Setup 41:30 Thunderbolt KVM and Display Preferences 42:51 MacBook Pro and Studio Comparisons 50:58 Markdown Processor: Apex 01:07:58 Scrivener and Writing Tools 01:11:55 Helium Browser and Privacy Features 01:13:56 Bing Delisting Incident Show Links Danny Brown’s 10 in the New York Times (gift link) Indigo Stack Scrivener Helium Bangs Apex Apex Syntax Join the Marked 3 Beta LG 32 Inch UltraFine™evo 6K Nano IPS Black Monitor with Thunderbolt™ 5 Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Brett + 2 Welcome to the Overtired Podcast Jeff: [00:00:00] Hello everybody. This is the Overtired podcast. The three of us are all together for the first time since the Carter administration. Um, it is great to see you both here. I am Jeff Severance Gunzel if I didn’t say that already. Um, and I’m here with Christina Warren and I’m here with Brett Terpstra and hello to both of you. Brett: Hi. Jeff: Great to see you both. Brett: Yeah, it’s good to see you too. I feel like I was really deadpan in the pre-show. I’ll try to liven it up for you. I was a horrible audience. You were cracking jokes and I was just Jeff: that’s true. Christina, before you came on, man, I was hot. I was on fire and Brett was, all Brett was doing was chewing and dropping Popsicle parts. Brett: Yep. I ate, I ate part of a coconut outshine Popsicle off of a concrete floor, but Jeff: It is true, and I didn’t even see him check it [00:01:00] for cat hair, Brett: I did though. Jeff: but I believe he did because he’s a, he’s a very Brett: I just vacuumed in Jeff: He’s a very good American Brett: All right. Christina’s Health Journey Brett: Well, um, I, Christina has a lot of health stuff to share and I wanna save time for that. So let’s kick off the mental health corner. Um, let’s let Christina go first, because if it takes the whole show, it takes the whole show. Go for it. Christina: Uh, I, I will not take this hold show, but thank you. Yeah. So, um, my mental health is okay-ish. Um, I would say the okay-ish part is, is because of things that are happening with my physical health and then some of the medications that I’ve had to be on, um, uh, to deal with it. Uh, prednisone. Fucking sucks, man. Never nev n never take it if you can avoid it. Um, but why Christina, why are you on prednisone or why were you on prednisone for five days? Um, uh, and I’m not anymore to be clear, but that certainly did not help my mental health. Um, at the beginning of November, I woke up and I thought that I’d [00:02:00] slept on my shoulder wrong. And, um, uh, and, and just some, some background. I, I don’t know if this is pertinent to how my injury took place or not, but, but it, I’m sure that it didn’t help. Um, I have scoliosis and in the top and the bottom of my spine, so I have it at the top of my, like, neck area and my lower back. And so my back is like a crooked s um, this will be relevant in a, in a second, but, but I, I thought that I had slept on my back bunny, and I was like, okay, well, all right, it hurts a lot, but fine. Um, and then it, a, a couple of days passed and it didn’t get any better, and then like a week passed and I was at the point where I was like, I almost feel like I need to go to the. Emergency room, I’m in pain. That is that significant. Um, and, you know, didn’t get any better. So I took some of grant’s, Gabapentin, and I took, um, some, some, uh, a few other things and I was able to get in with like a, a, a sports and spine guy. Um, and um, [00:03:00] he looked at me and he was like, yeah, I think that you have like a, a, a bolting disc, also known as a herniated disc. Go to physical therapy. See me later. We’ll, we’ll deal with it. Um. Basically like my whole left side was, was, was really sore and, and I had a lot of pain and then I had numbness in my, my fingers and um, and, and that was a problem the next day, which was actually my birthday. The numbness had at this point spread to my right side and also my lower extremities. And so at this point I called the doctor and he was like, yeah, you should go to the er. And so I went to the ER and, and they weren’t able to do anything for me other than give me, you know, like, um, you know, I was hoping they might give me like, some sort of steroid injection or something. They wouldn’t do anything other than, um, basically, um, they gave me like another type of maybe, maybe pain pill or whatever. Um, but that allowed the doctor to go ahead and. Write, uh, write up an MRI took forever for me to get an MRI, I actually had to get it in Atlanta. [00:04:00] Fun fact, uh, sometimes it is cheaper to just pay and not go through insurance and get an MR MRI and, um, a, um, uh, an x-ray, um, I was able to do it for $450 Jeff: Whoa. Really? Christina: Yeah, $400 for the MR mri. $50 for the x-ray. Jeff: Wow. Christina: Yeah. Yeah. Brett: how I, they, I had an MRI, they charged me like $1,200 and then they failed to bill insurance ’cause I was between insurance. Christina: Yes. Yeah. So what happened was, and and honestly that was gonna be the situation that I was in, not between insurance stuff, but they weren’t even gonna bill insurance. And insurance only approved certain facilities and to get into those facilities is almost impossible. Um, and so, no, there are a lot of like get an MR, I now get a, you know, mammogram, get ghetto, whatever places. And because America’s healthcare system is a HealthScape, you can bypass insurance and they will charge you way less than whatever they bill insurance for. So I, I don’t know if it’s part of the country, you know, like Seattle I think might [00:05:00] probably would’ve been more expensive. But yeah, I was able to find this place like a mile from like, not even a mile from where my parents lived, um, that did the x-rays and the MRI for $450 total. Brett: I, I hate, I hate that. That’s true, but Christina: Me too. Me too. No, no. It pisses me off. Honestly, it makes me angry because like, I’m glad that I was able to do that and get it, you know, uh, uh, expedited. Then I go into the spine, um, guy earlier this week and he looks at it and he’s like, yep, you’ve got a massive bulging disc on, on C seven, which is the, the part of your lower cervical or cervical spine, which is your neck. Um, and it’s where it connects to your ver bray. It’s like, you know, there are a few things you can do. You can do, you know, injections, you can do surgery. He is like, I’m gonna recommend you to a neurosurgeon. And I go to the neurosurgeon yesterday and he was showing me or not, uh, yeah, yesterday he was showing me the, the, the, the scans and, and showing like you up close and it’s, yeah, it’s pretty massive. Like where, where, where the disc is like it is. You could see it just from one view, like, just from like [00:06:00] looking at it like, kind of like outside, like you could actually like see like it was visible, but then when you zoomed in it’s like, oh shit, this, this thing is like massive and it’s pressing on these nerves that then go into my, my hands and other areas. But it’s pressing on both sides. It’s primarily on my left side, but it’s pressing on on my right side too, which is not good. So, um, he basically was like, okay. He was like, you know, this could go away. He was like, the pain isn’t really what I’m wanting to, to treat here. It’s, it’s the, the weakness because my, my left arm is incredibly weak. Like when they do like the, the test where like they, they push back on you to see like, okay, like how, how much can you, what, like, I am, I’m almost immediately like, I can’t hold anything back. Right? Like I’m, I’m, I’m like a toddler in terms of my strength. So, and, and then I’m freaked out because I don’t have a lot of feeling in my hands and, and that’s terrifying. Um, I’m also. Jeff: so terrifying, Christina: I’m, I’m also like in extreme pain because of, of, of where this sits. Like I can’t sleep well. Like [00:07:00] the whole thing sucks. Like the MRI, which was was like the most painful, like 25 minutes, like of my existence. ’cause I was laying flat on my back. I’m not allowed to move and I’m just like, I’m in just incredible pain with that part of, of, of, of my, my side. Like, it, it was. It was terrible. Um, but, uh, but he was like, yeah. Um, these are the sorts of surgical options we have. Um, he’s gonna, um, do basically what what he wants to do is basically do a thing where he would put in a, um, an artificial or, or synthetic disc.

On this episode of Overtired, Christina Warren, Jeff Severns Guntzel, and Jay Miller dive into tech talk, nonprofit initiatives, and some unexpected baseball chat. Jeff raves about his foray into Linux, while Jay updates us on Black Python Devs and their efforts to support developers in Latin America. Christina brings her Mac app gratitude like a pro, and baseball makes its way into the conversation more than once. Expect laughs, tech tips, and a lot of goodwill. Sponsor Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all eCommerce in the US, from household names like Mattel and Gymshark, to brands just getting started. Get started today at shopify.com/overtired. Show Links Black Python Devs BPD’s Commitment to LATAM The Big Dumper Grapptitude Jay: Linkding Brett’s Linkding adventures Linkding Injector Christina: Folder Quick Look Jeff: Omarchy Yeah, it’s this guy and yeah, it’s these people. Lazyvim Hyperlnd Omakub Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:14 Linux Teaser and Framework Desktop 02:03 Jay’s Plant Obsession 04:54 Meeting in Person for the First Time 07:30 Conference Presentation Pet Peeves 21:21 Sponsor Break: Shopify 23:35 Supporting Python Devs in Latin America 38:17 Podcast Guesting and Braves Fandom 38:57 Indigenous People’s Day and Baseball Anecdotes 40:41 Mariners’ Historic Game and Baseball Memories 43:36 Atlanta’s Unique History and Museums 46:26 Linux Adventures and Distro Discoveries 01:02:44 Gratitude and Tech Recommendations 01:10:38 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts Join the Conversation Merch! Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript This Time It’s Love (with Jay Miller) Introduction and Guest Welcome [00:00:00] Christina: You are listening to Overtired. I’m Christina Warren, and I’m joined as always by Jeff Severance, Gonzo. And this week we have back one of our favorite guests, Mr. J Miller. Jay, welcome back to the pod. Jay: What’s up? What’s up? Glad to, glad to be back. Glad to, to be here with the crew. I think I’ve been, now, I’ve been on the show with every variation Christina: was going to say, I was going to say, you’ve, you’ve been on, like, every iteration you’ve been on with just like, like, uh, like, like, like Jeff and, and, and Brett. You’ve been on just with me and, and, and, and Brett and now with, with, uh, Mia and Jeff. So yes, you’ve done like the full, like, you know, uh, yeah. Jeff: Due for a solo, solo episode, Jay. Christina: Yeah. Oh, honestly, honestly, that that, honestly. Jay: have a guess. Christina: I was going to say, that would actually be hilarious if we’re like, okay, we can’t do it for hire this week. So we’re gonna have, uh, uh, Brian and Jeff, uh, no, Brian and Jay take it. Right? That would be, that would be like a Jeff: That’s good. Yeah. Jay: I can [00:01:00] see this happening. Jeff: Well, it’s good to see everybody. Christina: yes. Jeff: Um, so Brett is out, uh, this week. Hello Brett. Um, wherever you are, specifically in the editing window right now, probably as you listen to this. Linux Teaser and Framework Desktop Jeff: Um, but yeah, Jay, it’s awesome to have you back and, um, I, I’m just gonna like spoil it for everybody and we’re not gonna start here, but I’m gonna talk about Linux and, and I don’t care who knows it, Christina: Hell yes. Jeff: but that’s just, that’s just a teaser. That’s just to keep people listening. Christina: Excellent. Excellent. Um, well, well, this is fun. I, I’m excited about this because I bought a, uh, a framework desktop a few months Jeff: Oh, Christina: and, and, well, well, more than a few months ago, but, but it arrived I guess like a month and a half ago. And, uh, it’s super, super fun. So I’m very excited to know. I didn’t know going into this, I, I didn’t look at the document beforehand, so I didn’t realize we were gonna be talking about Linux, but this is exciting for me. Jeff: man. Jay: I, I, I mean, I have some Linux stuff going on. Jeff: I’ve got some Linux. Jay: yeah, not as much as y’all. I [00:02:00] mean, but Jeff: So, Jay: a Linux box back there. Christina: Hell Jay’s Plant Obsession Jeff: Jay, Jay, greet the, the listeners who have been waiting for the next Jay Miller episode tells how you’re doing. Jay: Oh, I’m, I’m doing good. Um, I’ve, I’ve dealt with some, some title changes that don’t really mean anything, so we can just skip ’em. And I am. I’m just out here. We were, we were talking about this before the show started. Uh, I’m getting ready for a very, uh, stressful trip to Lavia next week. Um, now is not the time to be traveling like out of the country and trying to get back in Jeff: You’re fleeing Jay: def Well, I mean, you know, the, to be honest, YouTube video somewhere, Picon 2025, I sat on a panel and it was like, what do you tell folks who are wanting to come to like picon us in 2025 or getting ready for 2026? And I’m like, to be honest, just don’t, like, I [00:03:00] wouldn’t tell you to miss out on all the fun, but also I can’t promise your safety, so Yeah, just don’t, so I’m, I’m rolling those dice, but, uh. Not much has really changed for me. It’s still working, still doing the same stuff, still talking. Um, I’ve become an obsessed plant person in the last year. Um, so that’s fun. I think my camera has like five plants over there, and then there’s three more on the other side of the camera, and then I’ve got like another seven or eight downstairs. Jeff: So it follows that you’ve become someone who can keep plants alive. Not that you couldn’t before, but I’m just thinking when people have plants, they think, oh, you’re a good person. You can keep them alive. Jay: I mean, one could argue I bought so many because I keep killing them, but, you know, it’s, I’m trying, I’m, I’m trying to keep ’em going. Jeff: What made you a plant person? Like what’s tell, I mean, that’s a thing. Jay: Um, I mean, I’ve always liked plants. I, I noticed sometime earlier in the year, I don’t remember when it was, [00:04:00] honestly, that I was spending a lot of time like in my office and. It just felt horrible. Like it felt very drab and like I kept watching these like how to like spice up your, your office space and all this stuff. And one of the things they talked about was like, get some greenery in there, like get a plant. Usually they say like, get a fake plant, but you know, there’s some benefits to also getting real plants. And I got one, I’ve had plants for a couple of years, but they were all like, I had like two plants downstairs. I barely water them and they’re okay with that. But like I just started getting more and more and then all of a sudden I like blink and I’ve got like a monster behind me that’s, you know, doing its best. It’s living its best life. I saved it from the Home Depot, so, you know, it’s, it’s probably happier to be here than there. Jeff: awesome, awesome. You know, I meant to say this at the beginning. Meeting in Person for the First Time Jeff: This is a hard pivot, but Christina, this is the first time we’ve been on the pod together since we [00:05:00] met in person for the first time ever, Christina: I know, which has been months, which was so amazing. I was so happy to meet your beautiful family and, uh, your, your wife who’s amazing and, and your two sons, and like, that was so fun. Like that was such a great, I was, Jeff: had lunch. Christina: we, did we had lunch? Did you guys have a, have fun the rest of your time in Seattle? Jeff: We had a good time in Seattle. We had a good time in war ravaged Portland, and we had a great time on the Oregon coast. Yes, it was awesome. Yes. But yeah, it was so, it was so weird because I mean, Jesus, you and I for what, three years now, have known each other through these little video boxes. Christina: No, I mean that, well, it was finally, it was like, oh yes, good. Finally like a name, like to, you know, it, not a name for the face, but you know what I mean? Like a, like a face, like to, to the person that I’ve seen their face, but like now I really get to get to know it, which was really, really cool. Jeff: awesome. So fun. I can’t believe that we have not recorded together since then. Christina: I know. I know. Jay: the last time I saw all of y’all. I think I haven’t, I still haven’t seen you in person, Jeff. That’s okay. I’ve got an event in Cleveland you [00:06:00] can come to, um, later this year. We’ll talk Jeff: me, okay, Jay: Well, actually I can’t talk about that. It hasn’t been announced yet, but spoiler alert, there’s an event in Cleveland that I’ll be at doing things. Um, you should come. Um, but, uh, Christina and I met at scale. Right. And then, uh, I was just looking at scale to go back next year. So like a small world. And then Brett and I met, wow, that was probably like six. Was that before COVID? I can’t remember if the wood, the Woodstock, or Max stock that we went to was before or after COVID. I’m confused now. Jeff: luck figuring that Jay: been that long. It’s been at, it is been at least five years. Probably six or seven. Jeff: Brett and I have only been in person three times, which is also crazy ’cause not only have we been doing this podcast, but we were working together for a while before that and I met him after being a guest on Systematic, like way, way, way, way long ago. So anyway,[00:07:00] Jay: This is the first company that I’ve worked for in tech where I’ve actually met all of my teammates. And that was, that was after like several rounds of layoffs and now it’s like, hey, some have, most have gone and now there’s like one person I haven’t met in person yet, but who knows? Actually I don’t even,

After a two-month hiatus, Brett Terpstra and Christina Warren return with guest Erin Dawson for a lively episode. They kick things off by catching up on mental health, summer highlights, and adventures in sobriety. Topics range from the Mac OS X Tahoe update, the enduring love for code editors like VS Code and Cursor, to an elaborate rant about Quip’s decline. This episode features a special ‘Fuck, Marry, Kill’ edition of grAPPtitude! Sponsor This episode is sponsored by OpenCase, a genius new type of iPhone case that protects your phone while getting out of the way of MagSafe accessories. Check it out at theopencase.com. To see a wide variety of accessories it will work with, check out this YouTube video. Show Links CleanShot X Cursor VS Code Final Cut Pro Keyboard Maestro 1Password Barbee on the Mac App Store Chapters 00:00 Welcome Back to Overtired 01:21 Mental Health Check-In 04:06 The Reality of Subscription Software 07:17 Aaron’s Career Pivot 10:38 The Impact of Alcohol on Mental Health 27:05 Exploring Alternative Substances 32:05 Sponsor Break: Open Case 34:15 The Tahoe OS Controversy 36:58 Remote SSH and File Vault Changes 38:20 Visual Changes and User Experience 39:28 Icon Design and Builder Limitations 42:02 Mac OS Customization Frustrations 45:18 Apple’s Design Philosophy and User Dilemma 49:57 Overtired Phenomenon Explained 52:31 Grapptitude: Fuck, Marry, Kill Edition 01:07:10 Get Some Sleep Join the Conversation Merch! Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript 100 Days Sober with Erin Dawson Welcome Back to Overtired Brett: [00:00:00] Hey everybody. It’s been a minute. How, how, how are you? How, how is everybody out there listening to Overtired for the first time in, I don’t know, two months, months? Christina: like that. Months is all Brett: was a, it was a, it was a nice break I am here. I am Brett Terpstra. Christina Warren is here. Hi Christina. Christina: Hey there. Brett: And we’ve got special guest, Aaron Daw. Aaron Dawson. I am, I almost said Dawson’s Creek for some reason. Aaron, how are you? Erin: I am well, Brett and Christina, how are you? Christina: Yeah, I’m okay. I’m okay. It’s been a, it’s been a few months since we’ve been here. Um, I think everybody’s had a, a interesting summer and, um, so yeah. Uh, glad, glad to be back talking with you guys and see, see what you’ve all been up to. Brett: Yeah. Erin: I’ve used the Dawson’s Creek thing. Uh, if, if there’s a a a a din, the denin of a bar is too [00:01:00] loud and I’m, I’m closing out and I’ve, and I’ve done this motion with my hand by my neck, like I am going to it. That’s the motion to either you want to kill someone or you’re closing out. Um, and it’s Dawson and they’re like, huh. And it’s Dawson, like the creek, and it works like a charm Christina: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, that, that, that’s gonna be one of those that they’re like, okay, got it, got it. Mental Health Check-In Brett: So Christina, how’s your mental health? Christina: It’s okay. It’s been better, but it’s been worse. Um, I’m, uh, going through some stuff right now that I’m not going to talk about on this podcast . So, um, that I, that I hope will, will, will work itself out. But, um, um, yeah, it, I, I’m Okay. How about you? Brett: I don’t, I, I went to the hospital again for just a day and a half this time. Um, the end result of which being I had to completely cut out alcohol. Um, so most of my mental health [00:02:00] in this moment I’ve, is around like, just ending something that I was pretty reliant on, um, for a lot of things and finding new, uh, activities, new ways to deal with energy and, um, I’ve been really happy coding. I, I get up around 3:00 AM every morning. I write code, I, I usually stop coding by about 11:00 AM and then just chill and watch movies and ride my bike, exercise bike and whatnot for the rest of the day. Um, and that makes me really happy and I don’t miss having a day job at all. Um, but, um, there will come an end to my unemployment benefits and I will need to have this app I’ve been coding on, published and making money by then. Um, and that’s [00:03:00] causing a little bit of anxiety some mornings more than others. Um, I, it’s so close, but I’m just like with NV Ultra, I’m stuck on the getting paid part, uh, working in all the payment processors and everything and trying to, and then I, I posted. A thing that mentioned offhandedly, that it was going to be a subscription payment plan. And predictably, I got a lot of shit on social media and people were just very upset. And I know that’s, if I’m gonna do this, I’m just gonna have to deal with that. Um, but my personality does not like people being mad at me. Um, and alternates between feeling very, um, scared and feeling very angry. And, and I have to pull myself away from social media because neither one of those modes is gonna make for a good [00:04:00] reply from, from an app account. So anyway. Christina: Well, yeah. The Reality of Subscription Software Christina: I mean, the thing is, is like, look, you gave people a heads up. So that they can be prepared, they can have the attitude that they have, but you have to, at a certain point, not take that feedback as hard as it is, like to just like to your, like do what you’ve done, which is to log off, not, not be part of that. Because yeah, I mean the reality is like you need this to be something that can generate income and one-off purchases can’t do that. And, and don’t do that. And, and, and we are now, I don’t know, 12, 13 years, uh, past when Adobe started, you know, doing subscriptions for Creative Cloud. Like, I’m sorry, I’m just gonna fucking say it. People need to grow the fuck up and realize this is how software is sold now. Like, you know, and, and, and if, if you, if you don’t like it, then, then don’t buy the software. But good luck finding anything because there are, the only companies that can afford to sell one-off licenses are, are companies like Apple, who even they have moved, you know, the, the final cut for freaking iPad as a subscription. [00:05:00] So, you know, they, it, it’s still a one-off on Mac, but I’m like, okay, also how much time and, and investment has, um, apple put in Final Cut versus Adobe or versus um, uh, you know, um, um, uh, da Vinci resolve almost none. So like. You, you, you can choose, you can either have software that continues to be maintained and updated, or you can have one off software that isn’t. And, and that’s just the reality that we’re in. It’s nobody’s Well, it is, it’s the industry’s fault. It’s like companies, frankly, like Apple’s fault, who, you know, created these sorts of expectations to have updates free forever and didn’t allow ways to do app purchases. And then, you know, um, people like Adobe, who, because fighting piracy, they were like, we can just make it a subscription as a service. I get it. It’s, it’s, it’s frustrating. People don’t always wanna pay an annual or monthly subscription to something, but Okay. That, but, but you know, that’s what you Brett: if you’re paying if you’re paying for constant updates and you’re getting constant updates, then there’s really no difference between.[00:06:00] Christina: you’re Brett: a monthly subscription or upgrading your software every year because the developer was forced to put out a, a major version release. Christina: right. Right. Brett: I think that the, the happy medium is what a few companies like Nova are doing or what, what panics doing with Nova, where you get the app one time and then you pay for updates, um, and you pay, you pay a subscription. But if you stop paying the subscription, Christina: It’s locked. I was Brett: I would love, I would love to do that, but I can’t do it on the app store. It would mean I could only sell direct. Christina: Yeah. Which, which, I mean, at this point, is there any value Brett: over, over, half my income comes from the app store right now. Christina: Okay. That, well, that’s unfortunate. Yeah, Brett: it’s, just a little more than I get from set. Um, so I really, I think the app store is good for me. Uh, I am willing to leave it behind [00:07:00] if I could make a sustainable living just selling updates direct. And if everyone who was finding it on the app store would still find it elsewhere. But anyway, I don’t want to completely derail the mental health corner. So I will pass the mic to Aaron. How are you Aaron’s Career Pivot Erin: I think I’m well. Uh, a couple thingies about me. I was recently rift. Christina: I’m so sorry. Erin: Thank you. Um, Brett: Reduc reduction in force for anyone who’s not down with the, uh, the acronyms. Erin: Yeah. I mentioned that to someone who I, who kind of worked in tech and they’re like, riff. And I was like, yeah, I thought this was, sorry. Um, so for folks out there, Brett and I used to work at the same unnamed Mega Corp. Acme Corp. Um, and it was a good run for me. I, I can’t complain. I can always complain. Um, but I will not, it was a great run. Um, [00:08:00] and I should be pretty pessimistic about the job market. I mean, see above Brett. Uh, but I am weirdly serene and optimistic, and I have no reason to be. I’m kind of seeing this as a moment to maybe pivot. So instead of like traditional tech roles, like I’ve, like I’ve had in the past, is this an opportunity for me to combine my love of music tech and traditional tech? Uh, I think it is. That’s a, like I studied music, I’m a musician. I think, you know, I’d be kind of a shoe in for a place like a splice or something. I don’t know if you’re familiar with that service. Um, yeah, splice Brett is

Join Brett Terpstra and Christina Warren as they navigate through a Jeff-less episode filled with jet ski jealousy, nostalgic TV, and movie marathons. Delve into the highs of coding joy, the lows of tech troubles, and the steady rhythm of maintaining mental health. Plus, stick around for a dive into Mac shortcut tools and musings on the ever-evolving Apple ecosystem. Sponsor The latest 360-degree camera from Insta360, the Insta360 X5, launched April 22nd and shoots full 360-degree videos in incredible 8K30 resolution. To bag a free 114cm invisible selfie stick worth US$24.99 with your Insta360 X5 standard package purchase, head to store.insta360.com and use the promo code overtired. Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Overtired 00:40 Jet Ski Adventures and Dubai Memories 01:55 Comedy Shows and TV Nostalgia 05:00 The Paradox of Choice in Entertainment 10:01 Mental Health Corner 10:06 Unemployment and Coding Bliss 14:50 Heatwave Struggles and Power Outages 29:19 Sponsor Shoutout: Insta 360 31:30 Summer Fun and Travel Dreams 33:18 Movie Marathon and Horror Genre 40:02 Nostalgic DVD Collection Days 40:51 The Evolution of Movie Watching 43:21 Theater Experiences and Bad Movies 43:54 Mystery Science Theater 3000 and RiffTrax 47:02 Evil Dead and Streaming Services 48:53 Gratitude and Tech Recommendations 53:46 Apple’s iPad vs. Mac Debate 01:15:34 AI and Regular Expressions 01:20:27 Conclusion and Farewell Show Links Rough night Nonnas Rifftrax Gizmoplex Actions AI Actions Federico’s interview with Craig RegexRX Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Horror Movies and Heatwaves Welcome to Overtired [00:00:00] Christina: Hello again. You are listening to Overtired. I’m Christina Warren. I’m joined as always by Brett Terpstra. This week we are without our third, uh, Jeff SREs Gonzo, who is uh, uh, having home of jet skis. But, uh, but Brett and I are back doing an old school Overtired. How are you, Brett? Brett: I don’t know. I don’t know, man. Like he’s like, I got a family thing, and then he sends us pictures of him on a jet ski and I’m like, where are your priorities, man? What about Overtired? Come on, Christina: exactly, exactly. It’s like we, we, we, we are definitely more fun than, Brett: then a jet ski. I find that hard to believe. Jet Ski Adventures and Dubai Memories Brett: I’ve never been on a jet ski, but Christina: Oh, they’re great. They’re Brett: just see them as like an expression of pure joy on water. Christina: Yeah. I, I went in Dubai of all places, actually, uh, in a manmade lake. And, um, and, and, and at we, we’d called in advance, like before we got there, we were like. Can I [00:01:00] wear like a two piece bathing suit? Right. Because I, I was concerned about that. And, and yes. And they were like, she can wear whatever she wants. And I was like, okay, well I’ll still keep it like conservative, like more conservative than like my normal bathing suit would be, even though I had like a life vest on or whatever. And then we get there and they only had four jet skis and there were five of us. And, uh, one of my, my colleagues was like, my, one of my best friends actually, he was like, no, she gets her own. So they had to go back and like, get one for me, but, but they just assumed that I was gonna ride like bitch on someone’s, um, a jet ski. And I was like, no, I, I would like to do this. And, and I did pretty good. Um, one of our colleagues, like he, he’d never been on one before and, and he had the time of his life. I think he went buying one himself after, after, after it. But yeah, no, it was really fun. So Jeff’s photos, the video rather, that he sent to us, like, um, pure joy and, uh, so we missed you Jeff, but also completely understand. Comedy Shows and TV Nostalgia Brett: Before Daniel Tosh got really annoying and awful. Um, [00:02:00] he had a special where he talked about how no one can frown on a jet ski, like you would always smile on a jet ski. It went into like some dark version of a kid’s funeral. But, um, but back then it was funny back then, like Daniel Tosh was like, you know, hitting Christina: No, totally. Brett: still, like I was cracking up Christina: No. I mean, Brett: bit about the, the midgets in the parade that killed me. I was dying. Christina: no, we can’t say that word anymore, Brett: I know the little people in the parade. Um, but I believe the word he used Christina: right? No, I I I’m just, I’m just fucking with you. I don’t, I don’t, I mean, like, yeah. Um, but no, I mean that, that, that God Damnit Hass, that’s the name I haven’t thought about in forever. Toss 2.0. Like, that was like, that was like a big show That was, you know. Brett: It started off pretty good too. Christina: did. It did. I mean, I did too. ’cause it was, it was this weird thing where you’re like, okay, we can bring the internet to tv and then it just kind of [00:03:00] turns out like, we don’t really need to bring the internet to tv. Brett: Well, and now what’s her name? Um, the bipolar comedian, um, I forget her name. And she, I forget the name of the show, but she does a show that’s basically all like memes Christina: It was like after midnight it just got Brett: Yeah, yeah. It was, it’s after midnight, but it’s at, after like with the, at symbol. They like re re rebranded it. You’re right. It is the new, it is the new AF at midnight. After midnight. Christina: At midnight. After midnight, whatever. Yeah. It just, I, I, I think it just got canceled. ’cause I saw it like once or twice. It was not a thing I was ever gonna seek out, to be honest with you. Um, but, um, I mean, I, I like parts of it, but like, I don’t watch terrestrial TV most of the time. And certainly not like late nights. I might watch clips. I, I caught it a couple times. Um. Brett: it’s one of those shows where it’s mostly inside jokes between comedians. So if you’re really into the comedy scene and you wanna see like, how comedians relate to each other, that’s, it’s, [00:04:00] it’s a good, like, just kind of, obviously they pre-write their bits, like even on the original at midnight, they, they all, they all got the questions in advance and they rewrote their bits. Christina: course, Brett: you gotta, you got a kind of a glimpse into, uh, a rapid fire comedy writing session, if you will. Christina: Yeah. No, totally. I mean, and, and, um, and I, the reason I think it was just because I saw something on Instagram or whatever, like, oh, this is my final thing, or whatever, so I’m assuming it was canceled, which frankly makes sense. Um, ’cause again, like it’s one of those things like, that would’ve worked. Like, and I would’ve watched it like in the early two thousands, like if it was on tv or if they did like it on like Comedy Central, which I think it originally, you know, Tash 2.0 was on, like, that would’ve been a thing that I would’ve been like up at. One o’clock in the morning or whatever, um, or at midnight. And I would’ve had on in the background, right? And I would’ve been like, oh, this is really funny. And I’m, I’m really into this. But like, the way that we watch TV like that now just doesn’t exist in that, in that [00:05:00] sphere. The Paradox of Choice in Entertainment Christina: Like, like, um, we were talking about this right before we started the show. Like you, you think, you claim you’ve run out of good movies to watch. You obviously haven’t because there are, you have not watched all the good movies, I promise you. But, but we have like, it’s almost this weird thing like this, this, we’ve talked about this before, but like, you know, the paradox of choice where you have so much that we have access to that there aren’t like these pre curated pockets where you can just turn something on and like, just have that be kind of your. Your stuff for the day or, or, or, or, or for the week or like for, for whatever, you know, timeframe you’re in. Like when I was, you know, in, in high school and college, it would be like, adult swim would be like the thing that I would always have on like from 10:00 PM Well, it start at 11 I think, and then it moved. You know, earlier as time went on, but like, that was always a thing. It was like, okay, I know that this block from like this time to this time is gonna be stuff that I, I watch and I would, you know, have like certain shows that I would always like watch on like [00:06:00] MTV or like, you know, again, like Comedy Central or whatever. Like you just knew you could just have MTV on like in the background all day long and, and do whatever you needed to do. Or if you just wanted to veg in front of the tv, you could do that. And like, they have those, you know, fast channels now that’ll just play marathons of shows, but it’s not programming blocks in the same way. It’s like, you know, and then, and, and, and then those are annoying to me because the, the ad breaks. I don’t even mind the ads so much. It’s just I don’t like the way they insert them. Like if they inserted them at the normal break points. In those shows, then, like, I wouldn’t be mad, but it’ll happen like mid-sentence and then like, it’ll cut into an ad and then it’ll like go back again. I’m like, okay, no, no, no, no, no. Like, fuck you. If you’re too incompetent to do ad stuff, then all you’ve reminded me of is the fact that I probably own this show on demand, or I can find this on demand, or I can find like a, a non-ad copy to watch and like now I’m just [00:07:00] thinking about that and so I’m completely like tuned out of watching the Reno 9 1 1, you know, channel or whatever. It’s Brett: Yeah. Yep.

In this OG episode of Overtired, Christina Warren and Brett Terpstra navigate through sleep habits, medication discussions, and mental health struggles. They reminisce about theatrical experiences with Magic Mike, the allure of cooking shows, and gardening adventures. Brett’s journey into movie recommendation tools and Christina’s nostalgia over MTV highlight a fun and chaotic discussion. Plus, they reflect on the legacy of computing pioneer Bill Atkinson. Tune in for a blend of tech tips, personal anecdotes, and community app brainstorming. Sponsor The latest 360-degree camera from Insta360, the Insta360 X5, launched April 22nd and shoots full 360-degree videos in incredible 8K30 resolution. To bag a free 114cm invisible selfie stick worth US$24.99 with your Insta360 X5 standard package purchase, head to store.insta360.com and use the promo code overtired. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Catching Up 00:18 Sleep Struggles and Medication 02:35 Mental Health Corner 03:15 Cleaning and Organization Challenges 08:05 Selling on Facebook Marketplace 14:05 Job Hunt and Unemployment Fears 21:54 Sponsor: Insta360 23:22 Rhubarb Salsa and Cooking Adventures 29:38 Magic Mike Trilogy Discussion 35:55 Audience Participation and Movie Experiences 44:22 Marvel Movie Experience in Stockholm 45:05 Disappointment with Endgame 45:28 Star Wars Prequels Hype and Letdown 47:52 Batman vs Superman Premiere 49:14 Francis Ford Coppola’s Megalopolis 54:08 Movie Recommendation Apps 01:01:31 Privacy Concerns with Media Consumption 01:05:38 Bill Atkinson’s Legacy 01:08:38 MTV’s Headbanger’s Ball and Beavis and Butthead 01:11:19 Typo Negative and Music Reactions 01:14:29 Letterboxd API and Movie Recommendations 01:19:12 Gratitude for MacUpdater Show Links Fermented rhubarb salsa Magic Mike Letterboxd Recommendations Model (GitHub) Brett Soundtrack Bill Atkinson Mac Demo Headbangers Ball supercut I put my bed frame up for free on Facebook Marketplace The Charismatic voice reaction video to Type O Negative Flotato MacUdater Join the Conversation Merch! Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Magic Mike Food Pr0n Introduction and Catching Up [00:00:00] Christina: Welcome back. You’re listening to Overtired. I’m Christina Warren, joined as always by Brett Terpstra. Jeff Severns. Guntzel could not be with us today. Uh, we miss you, Jeff. Hope you’re having fun with the family. Um, so it’s a, it’s just a classic OG Overtired for once. Brett: Yeah. Are you tired? Sleep Struggles and Medication Christina: Um, I was a little bit, so I went to bed. So we are recording this right now at 11:00 AM um, uh, Pacific. Um, so a little bit later than we usually record, but I went to bed around 4:00 AM Pacific. So I woke up originally I did actually set an alarm. We were going to record at 10 and I set an alarm for nine 30 and I woke up and I sat, I hit snooze and I was about to text you and be like, I could really use another 30 minutes. And you had texted me literally that second, asking for like 30 minutes or an hour, and I was like, perfect. And then I think I slept maybe 20 more minutes. Um, and then, and then I woke up and um, and, and Brett: So yeah, you’re tired. Christina: Yeah, I mean, Brett: be tired. Christina: well, I should be, but I got like, you know, uh, six, six [00:01:00] hours or so, so that’s, that’s pretty good. Brett: I got nine hours of sleep last night and I’m still dragging, but I think it’s because for like two weeks now I’ve gotten six hours of sleep every night and that kinda racks up over time. And then the night that you do sleep well, then all the sleep deprivation like hits you the next day. I could barely get out of bed this morning. Christina: No, totally, totally. Um, yeah, I have, I, I don’t know if it’s because of like medication switch or what, like, and it’s a weird thing because I, I, the amount of dray I’m taking right now, I feel like is probably the right amount, but I don’t know if I need to like, but this is what the hard thing is. Like I’m, I’m taking 15 milligrams. I probably need to maybe take it like. Twice a day, um, like in terms of like maybe half, one, half the day, but half the other, I, I, I don’t know. But, but the 15 milligram will last me the whole day. The problem is it’ll also like, basically last me the whole night too. And so I am, [00:02:00] I’m at like, Brett: I thought, I thought that’s what you, I thought it had a shorter half life, Christina: I don’t know, it may be something in my biochemistry has changed, so, which is possible because like technically I could be taking 15 twice a day, but if I did that, I would not be sleeping. I might be more productive, but I wouldn’t, I, and actually I’m not even sure if I would be, but, but I would not be sleeping. So I’m, I’m kind of at like the weird place where I’m getting, you know, five or six hours a night, like pretty consistently. So, um, but yeah. And, and it’s, it, I, I need something to help me sleep, but it, Mental Health Corner Brett: I feel like this segues nicely into a mental health corner. Christina: I was gonna say, we were, we immediately went into mental health corner without even doing any chitchat. So. Brett: that’s why, that’s how Mental Health Corner became the first, first thing on the show is we just always naturally, we’re like, so here’s what’s wrong with me Christina: what’s wrong with me this week. This, this, this is the, it was like Doctor Corner, and then we, like colloquial called it like mental health corner and then it became a thing. [00:03:00] Yeah, that’s true. That’s true. We’ve been doing this show for so long now. I mean, like intermittently, but, but, but we’ve been doing it for so long that like, yeah, this is how this happened. Um, do you wanna go first? Do you want me to just finish mine? ’cause I don’t have a lot. Brett: Oh, go for it. Yeah. Christina: O Okay. So yeah. Cleaning and Organization Challenges Christina: Um, I haven’t been sleeping super well, but I ha it hasn’t been bad either. I just need to kind of figure stuff out. I’ve been trying to clean my office that has actually, like, that’s a massive like, mental health stressor because I have a bunch of boxes and stuff that I need to go through and I need to whatnot and, and we have like a storage unit and, and I’m, we can put stuff in. My problem with that is, is that I’m like, okay, if I put this in the storage unit, I’m never gonna see it again. And there is some stuff in here I would like to potentially use, but. Brett: are you currently in the same room you usually podcast from? Christina: Yes. Brett: Because from where I’m sitting, you’re, you’re sitting in an empty white room like John Oliver during the pandemic, so I would say you’re making progress on Christina: Oh [00:04:00] yeah, totally. Yeah. Well, without a doubt, I got rid of my shoe rack and, and put shoes that I will be using, like in kind of like a, an area and then put some that are in boxes that I haven’t worn that I might sell, that I might do, you know, potentially to go into storage. And then I, I threw a bunch out, but like, there’s a whole half of the room that you can’t see that is just like boxes and stuff that I need to go through. And, and the easiest thing to do would be to just like pack it all up and put it in storage. But if I do that, I know I’m not gonna go through it. And so it’s just, I don’t know, it’s, it’s a really stressful thing of being like, okay, how do I get enough time to like, basically have to kind of sift through and go through every single thing I have, be like, you know, keep storage, whatnot. Um. Brett: Do you have, do you have enough room to temper? Oh, you must. ’cause it was there to begin with. So I’ll tell you what I do and you can take it or leave it, but I like to put everything that I’m not currently using, everything that I don’t have an immediate use for into a big pile of boxes. Christina: Right? Brett: And [00:05:00] then over the next month, if I do need something, I go dig it out of the box and it becomes like a stay thing. If I, if there’s anything left in that box at the end of the month, I move it into a longer term storage. And basically anything I don’t use in a year, I give away or sell if possible. But like, just like putting it all in storage and then pulling out what you actually like because you can’t make that decision in the moment. Christina: no, but the problem is, and and you’re right, that is the right thing to do. The problem is, I don’t know exactly what I have. And so if I just put it in storage, then it, it, then that doesn’t solve anything. And then like, the problem is, is that there are things, I know I have, I don’t know where they are. I might rebuy them. Like that’s the problem. So, so you’re right, like the way that you’re talking about approaching things is correct, but like, I don’t know what all I have. Brett: I do have that problem of like forgetting that I already own something and buying it again because I can’t keep track. Christina: right. Well, I mean, I ran into that. I couldn’t [00:06:00] find a certain cable for something, and so I spent $70 on a freaking AC adapter for a thunderbolt dock. And then, and this is like the shittiest thing, I found the newer version of the Thunderbolt dock. Brett: UN unboxed, Christina: UN uh, Brett: I mean no. Still boxed. Christina: Still box. Yeah. Completely unopened. So like. So I’m like, okay, well then why the fuck did I just spend $70 on the safety? Alright, whatever. But like, uh, you know, but there’s shit like that, right? Like, I couldn’t find a certain, a c cable for m

In this episode, Brett reunites with Christina and Jeff after a few weeks’ break. Jeff talks about boundless curiosity and Christina shares her excitement over Taylor Swift reclaiming her masters. Brett details his tiring job search post-Oracle and explores new avenues as an independent developer while updating the team on the latest features of his app ‘Marked’. The conversation covers “cheesy” movies, health insurance options, and sports fandoms. You know, the conversations of three ADHD podcasters. Sponsor The latest 360-degree camera from Insta360, the Insta360 X5, launched April 22nd and shoots full 360-degree videos in incredible 8K30 resolution. To bag a free 114cm invisible selfie stick worth US$24.99 with your Insta360 X5 standard package purchase, head to store.insta360.com and use the promo code overtired. Show Links Pitch Perfect the book Cursor / Cotypist Cheapcharts Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Overtired 00:13 Catching Up with the Hosts 00:31 Nerding Out on Acapella 00:59 Pathological Curiosity 02:09 Mushroom Talk and Edibles 03:05 Mental Health Corner 07:04 Christina’s Taylor Swift Update 15:19 Sports Fandom and Mental Health 20:43 Job Hunting Struggles 37:07 Mental Health and Hobbies 38:19 Sponsor: Insta360 41:43 In-Depth Discussion on Marked App 55:54 Movies and Entertainment 01:05:17 GrAPPtitude Join the Conversation Merch! Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Rotten Soffits Welcome to Overtired [00:00:00] Brett: Hey, you’re listening to Overtired. I am, uh, Brett Terpstra, and I am here with Christina Warren and Jeff Severance. Guntzel. You guys have been carrying on without me. Catching Up with the Hosts Brett: How’s it going? Jeff: Good. Christina: It’s good. It’s good to, I’ll be back again. It’s been a few weeks. How? Brett: your, I enjoyed your last episode without me. It was fun to edit. Christina: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, uh, yeah, that was where we’re talking to over one another. We’re out of practice. No, that was great. It, it was great. Great, great. Nerding Out on Acapella Christina: With our friend Brian. They, they are a delight. And, uh, uh, once again, thank you, Jeff for letting us nerd out for an inordinately Jeff: a delight. Christina: about acapella. Jeff: It was a delight. I think the podcast tag should be, what is it now? It’s like tech pop culture and acapella. Uh, but what is it? What is it now? I forget. Our tag. Brett: I think it should be Tech. Taylor Swift and Jeff is a really good sport about whatever topic comes up. Jeff: No, I’m not a good sport. I, as I Brett: are a Pathological Curiosity Jeff: [00:01:00] as I said to my son, when he was annoyed with something, I was pointing out, I said, you have to understand fucking everything is interesting to Brett: Yeah, that’s what I, that’s what I’m Christina: was, I was gonna say, Brett: Like Jeff, Jeff has a curiosity about literally anything that other people are interested in. Christina: pathologic. Oh, that’s good. Pathological curiosity. I love that. No, ’cause you do. I, I, I, I, I I love that about you. I mean, I, I’m also like very curious, but you’re even more so than me. Like I will go down a rabbit hole on almost anything with anyone, even if it’s something that I’m not that into. But you are like beyond me. Like, ’cause there are some topics where I’m just like, I will just, my eyes will just glaze over. Jeff: yeah, yeah, yeah. Christina: you do that. Jeff: Well. Brett: know, you know, my eyes glaze over Christina: Oh, I know. Yeah. No, look, I, I, I, I was, I, I was not even, I was not even bringing you into this. No. Trust me, I, we, so we, we record this with, with video and, um, or we can see one another. We don’t record the video. I, I can see Brett’s face and it’s, it’s those moments where I’m like, do I Jeff: you can see [00:02:00] Brett Glaze. Christina: You can. And then there are moments I’m like, do I care or do I wanna finish my rant? And a lot of the times I’m just like, no, I’m gonna finish what I say ’cause he’s not listening. And it’s fine. Mushroom Talk and Edibles Brett: Um, so Jeff has a hard out in a little over an hour, which I think we could do. I just took a ceremonial amount of mushrooms, so we’ll see. How interesting. I’m just kidding. I didn’t, I Christina: fuck. Bummer. Brett: I was gonna, no, I only, I have literally like a 16th of mushrooms left and I’m saving it for a rainy day, Christina: Got it. Got it. Yeah. Fair enough. I mean, I, I just thought it was gonna be fun. I was like, damn, I’ll go take an edible. Like, we can just have like, we, we, we can Brett: and we’ll just see who kicks in first. Christina: whose kicks in first. Absolutely. Jeff: What topic are we on when it kicks in? Christina: Right, right. It’s, it’s like, it’s like it for me. You’ll know. I’ll just like, I’ll just either get Yeah. I get, I get quieter, honestly. I’ll just be like, cool. Jeff: yeah, [00:03:00] yeah. Right, right, right. Brett: All right, Jeff: like a SMR. Christina: Mm-hmm. Mental Health Corner Brett: so let’s catch up on mental health. I would love to hear about you guys first. Jeff: Oh, I can go Christina: Okay. Jeff: but it’s gonna be improvisational. Brett: Yeah. This isn’t youth group. You can share Christina: Sh. Brett: you Jeff: Wait, what does that mean? It’s not youth group, Brett: it. We used to have to like go around and Yeah. Testimonials and stuff and like you’d go around the room and everyone would have to share like who they witnessed to this week and all that shit. And, and I realized I really, yeah, a hundred percent. And I really can’t Jeff: wait, wait, wait, wait. At this moment Brett is maybe accidentally raising his hand Brett: Hallelujah. Hallelujah. But, uh, I can’t believe I missed the opportunity in high school to name my band, youth group Jeff: Oh, that’s a good Brett: so that everyone could tell their parents, oh, I’m going to youth group tonight, and they could come see [00:04:00] our Christina: And instead it goes to your show. That would’ve been so, yeah. Brett: about me real fast. Jeff: I like that a lot. Um, me, uh, I, you know, it’s, it’s funny, if it were a few days ago, I would’ve had a, a, a lot to say, but then I had therapy, um, and so, and that, that helped calm a lot of things down. Um, Christina: mental health corner. Jeff: yeah, actual mental health corner. I also just went through a phase where, so I have like, um, I mean, I think I’ve talked about this before, but I have nightmares pretty bad and, and, and I’ve managed to like. Make them quite infrequent through therapy, initially through medication, but then stopped that and through therapy, which has been amazing. Um, but I just had, I had one of those weeks where like. If I watch something, um, it becomes, uh, in my dream something like 40 times more terrible. Like if I watch something kind of terrible, uh, or just stressful. So like I accidentally on TikTok, uh, got a, a really [00:05:00] terrible nine 11 TikTok, just like a little VHS scene that someone had had recorded and that became this crazy ass dream. And then we we’re watching Bad Sisters again. I dunno if you watched that show, but it’s so stressful and awesome. And so every time I used to watch Bad Sisters in Season One, I had nightmares, but I was like, I don’t care. I love the show. Anyway. Um, no, but I’m, I’m doing good today. Um, I’ve had the place myself for the weekend and my kids are here, but my, um, my wife is outta town, so I’ve just been kind of like roaming around the house and I’m now like doing actual, uh, like garage repair work. I’m like, uh, I will not go into this, but I’m replacing rotten soffits and, and fascia and it’s really exciting because it’s the kind of thing I’ve never done and anytime I’m doing something I’ve never done, I find it kind of thrilling. And then when it actually works, I find that I don’t hate myself. And that’s, that’s awesome. That’s like a good way to come to not hating yourself. Christina: Yeah. Jeff: So, yeah, [00:06:00] I’m, I’m good. Rotten wood. I had to clear out a squirrel nest today that I was pretty sure had dead babies in it. ’cause I had a squirrel war and I had to close off the, the soffit from this squirrel I was fighting with that would yell at me in my workshop. And I was extra sure that I made extra sure that there weren’t babies in there before I shut it off. But man, a couple weeks later, it sure didn’t smell good in that corner. And so I, today, I like finally had the courage when I was ripping off the soffit and, and everything else to like, clear it out. But I found a way to do it so that I didn’t have to see, I didn’t have to see there was a massacre. I can’t handle it. One animal dies in my garage every winter and, and they all, they all are like framed, uh, in the, in the palace of my mind. Christina: Yeah. Uh, okay. So Rotted Wood should also be a band name. I’m just Jeff: rotted wood. Brett: I actually, I actually already decided to title this episode, rotten Soffits. We’ll see what else happens, Jeff: That’s good. That’s good. I like it. That’s what I got. Christina: [00:07:00] okay. Uh, I’ll go next. Um, okay, so the first, the, the, Jeff: My name’s Christina Christina’s Taylor Swift Update Christina: Yeah, I’m, I’m c I’m Christina, and I’m a Scorpio and No, um, so, uh, most important thing, uh, for, for my mental health and, and I think also going back to the roots of this podcast is that, uh, Taylor Swift got her master’s back, and, uh, so this is very important Brett: her, the recording’s not her degree. Okay. Christina: no, she hast not already doctorate, so she’s al

Jeff Guntzel and Christina Warren, along with guest Bryan Guffey, dive deep into a capella groups, vibe coding, and AI tools. Mental health journeys and new therapies, plus tech tips, including the use of granola and the Limitless pendant for recording conversations. This is what happens when Brett’s not around. Sponsor Rogue Amoeba has been making the highest quality audio apps for Mac for over 20 years. Save 20% off any purchase with the code OVERTIRED at [macaudio.com/overtired][2]! Show Links Bryan and One & Only w/ Forte A Cappella northsky.social Bluesky AT Protocol Not a Coder? With A.I., Just Having an Idea Can Be Enough. Bryan’s podcast – workchat.fm Bolt Granola Limitless Pendant Folder Preview (QuickLook Extension) Join the Conversation Merch! Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter.

Hosts Brett Terpstra, Christina Warren, and Jeff Severns Guntzel welcome special guest Corey O’Brien, author of ‘Two Truths and a Lie,’ who shares his existential journey of writing and promoting his first novel, a rich “noir cyberpunk” entry. From the gritty soul of cyberpunk to the calming practice of metal welding, this episode is a rollercoaster of conversations, insights, and creative tools. Overtired style. 00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement 00:54 Corey O’Brien’s Background and Career 02:43 Transition to Fictional Writing 05:44 Mental Health Corner 06:23 Brett’s Job Update 09:20 Jeff’s Workshop and Squirrel Saga 13:53 Christina’s New Job Experience 18:17 Corey’s Mental Health and Medication 28:33 Promoting the Novel 33:40 Inspiration and World-Building 46:20 The Evolution of Cyberspace 48:29 Economics of Memory 52:44 Queer Love Story in Fiction 58:49 Writing Dialogue Trees for Video Games 01:03:06 Tools for Writing and Productivity 01:26:08 The Importance of Business Cards 01:31:13 Closing Remarks and Recommendations Show Links Two Truths and a Lie Myths Retold Redfall Squirrel Obstacle Course The Through – A Raphael Johnson Devil in a blue dress Mona Lisa Overdrive The Peripheral Snow Crash Farewell my Lovely Inkle Twine Obsidian OEI Tools Scrivener Soulver Sendy Cork PowerToys on Windows NotebookLM Blinq Join the Conversation Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Two Truths and a Lie With Cory O’Brien Introduction and Special Guest Announcement [00:00:00] Brett: Hello, welcome to a very special Overtired. I am Brett Terpstra. I am here with Christina Warren and Jeff Severns Guntzel. And this week we have the Long Promise special guest Corey O’Brien, author of Two Truths and a Lie. How’s it going, Corey? [00:00:21] Cory: It’s going great. Happy to be here. [00:00:23] Jeff: Hi, Corey. We’re saying hello. [00:00:30] Brett: Um, yeah, so we’re, we’re definitely gonna talk about the book. I have filled Corey in on kind of our usual format, and he’s down for, for playing along with what we usually do. So, um, I, I feel a little weird jumping right into Mental Health Corner. I want a little bit more robust of an intro. Corey O’Brien’s Background and Career [00:00:54] Brett: So, Corey, tell us a little about you. [00:00:58] Cory: Uh, sure. [00:01:00] It’s a, it’s a, it’s a big question. [00:01:02] Brett: It is. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. That was so vague. [00:01:05] Jeff: Tell me who you are. [00:01:06] Cory: all right. Uh, I am a writer game designer man about town. I, [00:01:15] Jeff: that’s you. I saw. [00:01:16] Cory: yeah, yeah. I’m all over the place. You see a guy that’s me [00:01:20] Jeff: That’s you. [00:01:20] Cory: watching you, counting your teeth. Uh, I, I, uh, I, I used to write a website called, uh, mire Told where I would tell mythology like it was 3:00 AM and I was drunk in a chat room. [00:01:34] Cory: And I did that. I did that for many years, parlayed it into a small level of notoriety that somehow got my publisher to pitch me to everyone as the beloved internet humorist, which I still, I still find kind of embarrassing. But, uh, then, then over time, like what I’ve always wanted to do is write books. Uh, and so over time sort of parly the notoriety from the blog into.[00:02:00] [00:02:00] Cory: A career writing for video games. Uh, I’ve written for, uh, the comedy dating sim called Monster Prom. And then, uh, my favorite game that I, that I worked on is Hollow Vista, but you can only play it if you have an iPhone, unfortunately, which I don’t, I haven’t even played it in its native environment. I’ve played it, I’ve played it in like a browser version, but, uh, and then, uh, and now I work for like, um, for like fancy 3D games, writing dialogue, trees and stuff. [00:02:29] Cory: But, uh, my, my number one passion is writing books and I’m very excited that I finally have this novel out. And so that’s, that, that, that brings me to this present moment. [00:02:41] Christina: Um, so. Transition to Fictional Writing [00:02:43] Christina: How, how, um, I guess what was your process, I guess, moving from, uh, have you been like, I guess like writing short stories, like your whole life, uh, you know, I know you’ve done the, the, uh, the, the humor thing and, and you’ve worked, um, you know, um, game stuff. But what was, I guess, your process of transitioning to, um, [00:03:00] uh, fair, um, fictional, like narrative writing. [00:03:04] Cory: I, I have been writing stories for as long as like, I knew that was a thing you could do, and I, I used to write a number of short stories. I, like, I went to graduate school for creative writing. I wrote a lot of short stories then yeah, I left that part [00:03:19] Brett: Yeah, that’s an important piece. [00:03:21] Christina: I was gonna say that helps, [00:03:22] Cory: But I, I, I don’t think, I don’t think that graduate school, like graduate school certainly gave me a lot of opportunity to practice writing, but I don’t think, I don’t think it turned me into a writer. [00:03:32] Cory: I [00:03:32] Christina: No, you already were, but, but, but, but it, but yeah. But I think the opportunity to practice is, is probably helpful. [00:03:37] Cory: yeah. And also meeting people and being in an environment where that’s encouraged. I really think of graduate school as like paying an enormous amount of money to larp that you have the job that you wanted to have for, for like two years, which is, I, I had, I had the luxury of being able to do that. Um, but I, what I have always specifically wanted to do is write long form narrative. [00:03:59] Cory: I [00:04:00] wanted to write novels. I, I don’t, I don’t know exactly what it is. I think my best explanation for why is that the stories that have affected me the most that have given me like a real physical, visceral reaction have been books because they can set something up over a long period and then like bring it all together at once in this rush. [00:04:22] Cory: And, uh, so that’s, that’s always been really exciting to me. And so that’s always been what I wanted to do and I’ve just basically spent many years working myself up to that. ’cause writing books is hard. [00:04:34] Jeff: Writing books is like existential. I, I’ve never written a book and everyone I know that has, it’s like a, it’s a journey. It’s a, it’s a dark journey sometimes. A lovely journey. Is that true for you? [00:04:45] Cory: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I, I, I’m sure that there are some people, I mean, I know that there are some people for whom books are just like, they just, they just write ’em, they just [00:04:55] Brett: Jeremy Robinson. Jeremy Robinson puts out a book like every two months [00:05:00] in their, their bangers, and I don’t know how anyone does that. [00:05:03] Cory: Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I, I have sort of come to grips with the fact that that is not my temperament. Like, I do like writing. I do like, eventually I do like the stuff that I write when I have enough distance from it. But it is a process, especially because I’m already always doing so many things. Uh, you know, maybe if I was locked in a room like they did with Douglas Adams later in his career, I could just like write a book real fast. [00:05:30] Cory: Generally write the first draft really fast and then like. Go insane. Trying to, trying to write the, the, the future drafts and really tear myself [00:05:41] Jeff: oh my God, I have so many process questions. I’m [00:05:43] Jeff: gonna Mental Health Corner [00:05:44] Brett: well, let’s make, let’s make this our mental health corner. Let’s make it all about Corey. [00:05:48] Cory: Yeah. [00:05:50] Brett: And, and I would be curious to know what your mental health was like while writing this last book and what it’s like now that it is officially [00:06:00] released. [00:06:00] Cory: Woo. That’s a good question. I don’t wanna be the only person doing a mental health check-in though. [00:06:06] Christina: Oh, no, no, no, no. We’ll all, no, no, no, no, no. We’ll, we’ll all go. We’ll, we’ll go. [00:06:10] Brett: Do you wanna go first or last then? [00:06:12] Cory: Well, I’m, I’m in your house, so I’ll, I’ll, I’ll do whatever the done thing is. [00:06:18] Brett: Okay, I’ll go first. I’ll kick it off. Uh, I’ll keep mine short. Brett’s Job Update [00:06:23] Brett: Um, my job, we talked last week at length about how messed up my job situation was. Um, I went to therapy for it and my therapist was very helpful in helping me see that my manager that I have so many conflicts with also had some IFS type parts coming up. [00:06:46] Brett: Um, and we were able to kind of hit like a working flow, but at the same time, and don’t tell my manager this, this is private, [00:06:57] Jeff: I think you’re telling your manager this. [00:06:59] Brett: I. [00:07:00] I reached out to a pre, like one of the first managers I ever had who had gotten moved off. There was a whole, like the first major shakeup was when she got moved off to another team. [00:07:11] Brett: Um, and I talked to her and I said, Hey, here’s what I’m doing these days. You know, any other teams that might be able to use that skillset? And she’s like, well, I could. Um, and her headcount is frozen right now, but she thinks she might be able to make an exception. So problem might be solved just by going to a work for a manager I already respect and I already get along with. [00:07:37] Brett: And that, that alone, just knowing that’s a possibility, has made it easier for me to deal with the present, um, and to not be in a constant state of panic and frustration. So, yeah. Uh, think things are bet

Brett and Christina dive into a sleepless whirlwind of tech chatter and media binges in this wildly overtired episode. Brett recounts his struggles with insomnia, trazodone, and Gabapentin while lamenting the lack of manic productivity. The pair highlight a futuristic cyberpunk novel and tease an exciting author interview. Together, they traverse the realms of new Macs, Framework desktops, and nostalgic gaming. Rogue Amoeba’s audio software gets a fanfare, and gratitude overflows for essential apps like Audio Hijack and AlDente Pro. Expect deep dives, late-night coding, and lots of tech talk. Sponsors Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code OVERTIRED at incogni.com/overtired and get 60% off an annual plan. Rogue Amoeba has been making the highest quality audio apps for Mac for over 20 years. Save 20% off any purchase with the code OVERTIRED at macaudio.com/overtired! Show Links LOST Severance Yellowjackets Marked 2 Apple reveals M3 Ultra, taking Apple silicon to a new extreme Apple unveils new Mac Studio, the most powerful Mac ever, featuring M4 Max and new M3 Ultra New Framework announced All8Bit G11 Pro AlDente Pro Audio Hijack Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Updates 01:13 Exciting Book Interview Announcement 03:57 Mental Health Corner: Sleep Struggles 10:37 Media Consumption and Mental Health 27:44 Sponsor: Incogni 31:03 Tech Updates: Mark and Envy Ultra 41:11 Exploring Setapp’s Developer-Centric Approach 42:12 Subscription Models and Lifetime Licenses 46:27 New Mac Announcements and Benchmarks 54:54 Framework’s New Desktop and Laptop Innovations 01:00:17 Retro Gaming and Emulation Challenges 01:06:17 Sponsor: Rogue Amoeba 01:16:12 Battery Management with Al Dente Pro 01:22:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Join the Conversation Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript LOST and Found Introduction and Podcast Updates [00:00:00] [00:00:04] Christina: You’re listening to Overtired. I’m Christina Warren. I am joined, as always, by Brett Terpstra. Jeff Severns Guntzel is not with us this week, although we will have him back soon. Brett, what’s going on? We are, we are two weeks in a row. Our podcast is Acting Like a Normal Podcast. [00:00:20] Christina: How are you? [00:00:21] Brett: Right, like, and we have sponsors lined up for the foreseeable future, by which I mean like a month, but like this could be, this could be for some period of time, a regular podcast, um, which, you know, we’ve. How long have we been doing this? [00:00:41] Christina: Like, like 11 or 12 years. [00:00:44] Brett: Yeah. With, with some extended breaks in there, but, but every once in a while we get into a groove. [00:00:52] Christina: Hey, look, we were in a, we were on a groove for like two years. We were like on a really good place. We were like in a really good place, but no, we’re, we’re in a groove. Um, [00:01:00] and, uh, and it’s awesome that we have sponsors and we hope we can be more consistent. Um, I don’t know. [00:01:06] Christina: It’s, it’s good for me to have like routine. So, um, I’m, I’m, I’m glad to be back and recording with you. Exciting Book Interview Announcement [00:01:13] Brett: I’m really excited next week. So I, here’s the story and, and I won’t tell the whole story next week because I’ll tell it this week, but I am on these lists for like Penguin and random house, and they send me galley copies of books as if. I’m like a bookstore or a book reviewer or something. And I don’t know how I got on these lists, but yeah, I’ll take free books. [00:01:40] Brett: I’ll take free, like pre press books. That’s cool. Um, and I got this one called two truths and a lie, and it’s a cyberpunk. Like Gibson ask, not like modern cyberpunk. It’s like Gibson, like Mona Lisa overdrive era, [00:02:00] Gibson style, cyberpunk. And, um, and it’s all, it plays with the idea of like memory and data as currency. [00:02:09] Brett: And, um, it’s like a queer love story at its heart. And I, I loved it. I loved it. And the agent that sent me the book, um, got, got us an interview with the author. So next week we’ll get to talk to them. And I don’t know if you guys, like you guys got copies, but you’re under no pressure to read them. Cause I’ve read the whole thing twice. [00:02:34] Brett: So like I can lead the interview, but if you have, like, if you’ve read any of it. Then, then you can chime in on, on plot points and whatnot. [00:02:44] Christina: Um, so as of this, as of the, the time that, um, uh, we are recording this, I’ve read about half of it and I really actually enjoyed it. So I will, I will have read the whole thing, uh, by next week. Um, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, I, look, I, [00:03:00] I, um, I sometimes get sent things randomly, um, I, I used to be on lists, but I haven’t been in a while, and I don’t know how you got on the list, but I’m, like, jealous of, of you for it, um, but one of those things, like, A, if someone’s going to go out of the way, if we’re going to have an author on, I really do try to do the homework and do the assignment, um, first of all, but, but, but B, like, I was actually, like, when you first told us about it, I was like, huh, this actually sounds like something that, and I’m not a huge fiction reader, but I was like, of the fiction, this is the sort of thing that I would, yeah. [00:03:32] Christina: Read anyway, and so, um, I, I’ve, I’ve really, I’ve really liked it, so, I’m excited to talk to the author about it, [00:03:40] Brett: it’s good. It’s gritty. The, it was, I think it’s set in LA. It’s underwater. It’s, it’s sinking into the ocean. It’s fun. [00:03:50] Christina: for sure. [00:03:50] Brett: It’s dark and, and scary and gritty and fun. Um, all right. Mental Health Corner: Sleep Struggles [00:03:57] Brett: So mental health corner. [00:04:00] Um, I, I think it’s perfectly apropos to mention that I am once again getting super shitty sleep, and I don’t know why I’m up to 200 milligrams of trazodone in addition to 1500 milligrams of uh, Gabapentin, and it still only keeps me down for about five or six hours. [00:04:25] Brett: And that’s some heavy sedation that I’m just like waking up from. [00:04:30] Christina: Yeah, yeah, no, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s intense, and then, so, how, how are things going with, like, the Mania stuff? [00:04:38] Brett: Uh, so here, okay. So the, the trick with trazodone is trazodone has antidepressant properties. Meaning if I were actually manic trazodone would have made me sleep less, but trazodone made me sleep a little bit more. Um, I can’t go any higher for fear [00:05:00] of triggering a manic episode, but my psychiatrist is pretty convinced that whatever is going on now is your more classic insomnia and not mania. [00:05:12] Brett: So I, I tend to agree. Like I’m not. Well, I am getting up and coding in the early hours of the morning. It’s mostly just because I can’t sleep. Um, and I need something to do with myself and I, I don’t have other outlets, so I code, but it’s not like manic coding. I’m not, I’m not putting out huge new projects every week. [00:05:39] Brett: I’m just, uh, [00:05:40] Christina: You’re just tired. [00:05:42] Brett: Yeah. [00:05:43] Christina: So how do you feel about that? Like, like, like, like, I know that this mental health corner and not a Christina question hour, but I, I’m, I’m going to like ask questions. So how does that make you feel? Because I know that that’s always been something that you’ve, you’ve been able to get like the productivity that you’ve gotten out of your mania has in [00:06:00] some ways, I think been like, uh, um, [00:06:04] Brett: Essential to my career. Yes, [00:06:06] Christina: Well, I was going to say an asset in some ways, but also something like you’ve just come to kind of like learn to like deal with your, your, your life around stuff like that and like, and figure out how to handle it. So when you have the insomnia, which is not accompanied by mania, which is my life, to be honest with you, a lot of the times, not, not lately, but, but historically. How, how, how does, how do you handle that from a mental health perspective? How do you handle that from like a, do I feel, you know, like I’m doing in a perspective, like how, how does that work for you? [00:06:33] Brett: that is a really good question. Um, I, I don’t, I, I don’t like not sleeping either way. Um, when I’m manic and I’m producing like crazy new things that I it. Hadn’t even thought of two days before and then I have an idea and it just spills out and I bring it to, to like fruition like that’s a great feeling even on zero hours of sleep, [00:07:00] but consistently getting like four to six hours of sleep every night for a period of time just wears me down and slows down like I can’t concentrate. [00:07:14] Brett: And if I do hyper focus, it’s not like manic hyper focus, it’s, it’s like slow, slow hyper focus. And, and I don’t, I don’t, I don’t care for it. I don’t cotton to it at all. Um, I, I would rather, I would rather deal with three to five days of mania and, and boost my productivity than this like extended drag that I’m going through right now. [00:07:46] Christina: no. I mean, I think that makes sense. And that, that’s kind of why I asked because, um, and certainly, and, and, and I, I hope that this is, uh, Interpreted the way that it’s intended because I, I don’t mean that I’m, I’m envious of the, the, the mania or, or [00:08:00] the, or the bipolar. Cause I’m definitely not. Um, but, but I have always been slightly envious of like when before now, like that when you’ve had like insomnia, like you’ve actually been abl

In a hilariously overtired episode, the trio – Brett Terpstra, Christina Warren, and freshly 50 Jeff Severns Guntzel – shares personal updates and tech tidbits. Jeff reflects on turning 50 and throws an TV-themed party filled with nostalgia and sentimentality. Christina bids farewell to GitHub, navigating the emotions of her final day on MLK Day 2025. Brett, struggling with health issues, excitedly delves into the intricacies of DevonThink and shares his disdain for buses. Together, they discuss old tech software, film reviews, and geek out on imaginary Linux sponsorships. It’s heartfelt, chaotic, and genuinely overtired. Sponsor 1Password Extended Access Management solves the problems traditional IAM and MDM can’t. It’s security for the way we work today, and it’s now generally available to companies with Okta and Microsoft Entra, and in beta for Google Workspace customers. Check it out at 1password.com/overtired. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Birthday Celebrations 00:28 Reflections on Turning 50 02:30 Inauguration Day and Mental Health 06:22 Christina’s Career Transition 13:07 Jeff’s Birthday Party Recap 20:48 Brett’s Health Diagnoses 33:51 Travel Woes and Train Troubles 36:29 The Romanticism of Train Rides 37:11 Amtrak’s Writing Fellowship 38:17 Brett’s Media Corner 45:03 Sponsor Break: 1Password 47:41 Nostalgic Tech Talk 50:03 grAPPtitude 01:02:39 Get Some Sleep Show Links Self Reliance A.P. Bio High Potential DEVONthink Marky the Markdownifier Sentinel Lotus 1–2–3 Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Always Sunny Girl Introduction and Birthday Celebrations Brett: [00:00:00] Hey, it’s, it’s overtired. I’m so tired. Oh my God. Um, we all, all three of your favorite hosts are here today. We’ve got me, Brett Terpshire. We’ve got Christina Warren. Hey, Christina. And we have Jeff Severns Gunsell, who is. Fresh off of a birthday celebration. How’s it Christina: Happy birthday, Jeff. Jeff: Thank you. Thank you. Reflections on Turning 50 Jeff: 50, 50, 50. The last day of the rest of my life. Christina: You know, 50 is the new 40 is what they’re saying. So like, Jeff: Yeah. I, Christina: the start. Jeff: it’s a weird number. I don’t, it’s a weird one. I was like saying to somebody, maybe I wrote this, that like, I feel like I, turning 20, turning 30 felt like skin in my teeth, like I barely made it, and, uh, 40 felt like inevitable and kind of, uh, disappointing, and, uh, and 50 feels [00:01:00] good, weirdly, just feels good, feels like, yeah, I made it, it feels like I made it, like, uh, it feels like a, not a finish line, but like, alright, cool, I made it this far, everything else is bonus. Brett: I’ll turn 50 last year. I uh last year I started dating a 50 year old woman, which is weird because Or a 50 year old person. Sorry Um, which is weird because I still think of myself as like 25 Jeff: Did you just say last year you’ll turn 50? Brett: last year last august. Yeah 50. Jeff: My God, start over. I’m so tired. I, and I know you, you’ve been up beginning sleep. I got sleep and still I’m just hung over from not, I didn’t even drink at my party, but it was, we had it at a venue and, uh, and, and it was so much work getting ready, bringing everything over there. It wasn’t even that much stuff, but like, it was enough. It was like a mini van load [00:02:00] and then like, get it. We had an hour for setup and then we did the party and then we had to break it down and. For some reason, maybe it’s cause I’m 50. That was exhausting. And I felt hung over the next morning despite not drinking at all. Christina: No, I think that that’s fair. I think that’s fair. I think that that’s one of those things where it’s like, um, you’re totally like allowed to be, um, what was it going to say? Like tired and, and all that other stuff. Like, it’s just, just one of those things. Jeff: Yeah. Yeah. And also it’s a tiring day. Inauguration Day and Mental Health Jeff: We don’t have to get into it, but it is inauguration day. Um, and we can. Probably Christina: Yeah. And, and that, and, and that’s basically all we have to say about that. Jeff: no, but it is, I do think it’s, it’s lending to a sense of, um, of malaise. Christina: Oh, for, for sure. For sure. No, I, cause it was one of those things. So like, um, uh, I’ll get into it with, with, when we talk about mental health corner, but like, I’ve got like some stuff going on myself and, um, I, um, you know, it’s a, it’s technically like a [00:03:00] public holiday today because it is, um, Uh, Martin Luther King Day and so it was just like one of those like things where I’m just like, okay, Brett: the, is the inauguration always on Martin Luther King Day? Jeff: No, Brett: Okay, that’s just such a fucked up coincidence then that we’re, Christina: I mean, I’m sure it’s happened Brett: inaugurating a racist on MLK Day. Jeff: we’ve inaugurated our fair share Christina: say, I was going to Brett: on MLK Day? Come Christina: Oh, I’m, I’m sure that that has also happened before. I Jeff: On my birthday. Christina: and yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, no, I mean, the irony is, is. Is right there. And then of course it’s happening like a week after two weeks after Jimmy Carter’s funeral and they had to have it indoors because of the, the cold or whatever. And so like I made a comment that got way more viral than I expected it to be because the joke was in the comment, but I was like, you know, it’s kind of fitting that this is taking [00:04:00] place, you know, indoors because it feels really claustrophobic and like a funeral. And then everybody responds is, well, it is a funeral for democracy. And I’m like, yes, that was the joke. Literally. Literally. That was the Jeff: uh, I find, I find discussing it, for the most part, I’m not referring to this. I find if I am in a small group and somebody brings up the moment, I find it deeply unsatisfying to engage because it’s just like. I don’t know, I can’t even put my, my finger on it exactly, but it’s like somebody says something intensely obvious, and then everyone else shakes their head and we do need to vent and we do need to like, have some sense of sort of solidarity and community but there’s something about this moment that that’s not quite what it is, it’s like we’re all just Prepared, including myself to just like blurt out the, the last terrible thing we heard or thought about. And it’s, it’s very exhausting right now. I was like, when you need that, when you need me for the resistance, call me. [00:05:00] Uh, but I don’t want to talk about it. Just assume I’m in. Christina: Right. Right. No, but this was, this was just like a one off, like a knock on innocuous post that Jeff: Well, you know, Christina, it is a funeral. Christina: and I’m like, right, that was what I put in the post anyway. It has like 425 reposts and like 7, 200 likes and 401 responses. And all the responses are the same. That’s what I’m saying. Like this, this, this got, this was like blue sky viral. I was like, okay guys, I’m like muting thread because I don’t. This is too much. Um, also it’s like, again, yeah, that was the joke. Like, Brett: Well, Jeff: Well, in case you missed it, Christina, someone was there to help you see, Christina: I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m so glad that like people were able to like explain my joke to me. Like, I’m really, really Jeff: And if you need us today to explain anything to you that comes from you, we’ll do that. Because you got, you got two men here. We’re ready. Brett: just say it and we’ll jump in and we’ll tell [00:06:00] you Jeff: we’ll tell you what you’re saying, why it’s funny, why it’s wrong. If it’s wrong. I mean, we’re here Brett: We got you, we got you. Christina: repeat what I said back to me. Oh, Brett: we’ll just Jeff: Yeah. Just repeat. Christina: what you mean is this. I love Brett: so I do want to talk about why I missed Jeff’s birthday party. But first, uh, well, let’s do a mental health corner. Christina, you alluded to some stuff going on. You want to start? Christina: Yeah. Christina’s Career Transition Christina: So, um, as we were recording this on, on Martin Luther King Day, um, on a January 20th, 2025, God, 2025, that sounds so weird to say, uh, this is my last day at GitHub. Um, and, uh, so after almost three years there and, uh, seven and a half, um, little more than that, um, within the Microsoft family, I, I’m done. Um, I’m not going to announce where I’m going, um, for my next job. I’ve got, um, two weeks off. Um, but, uh, that news will be coming up. But that has been the thing that has kind of defined my mental health for the last couple of weeks is trying to kind of figure out [00:07:00] like, am I going to take this new job, this opportunity that I’m excited about? Um, but with that excitement comes like the sadness of leaving a team and a company that has been fantastic to me and people that I just adore working with and, and people that I couldn’t be more proud to, or honored to have had the opportunity to be with. Um, you know, I was a GitHub fan long before I ever joined. Um, uh, tech and, and I will remain one, you know, until the end. And so that’s been, that’s been it. Cause this is, you know, putting in all the time here. Like if you count the Microsoft and GitHub time together, this is the longest job I’ve ever had. And, uh, and so obviously there were like a lot of emotions around that. So that’s, that’s, that’s my mental health corner basically. Brett: Yeah. That’s, uh, that’s, that’s a, that is a long time in tech, um, to stick, to stick, even, even if you switch from Microso

Brett and Christina return from their hiatus with a chaotic blend of health updates, travel tales, and tech talk. Brett opens up about his struggles with Dysautonomia and the labyrinth of healthcare, while Christina shares her whirlwind travel experiences from Salt Lake City to Rome. They dive into the marvels of AI, revealing how even rabbis can now build apps with ChatGPT. Brett extols a scheduling app that ensures he never misses a meeting, despite his notorious forgetfulness. Plus, the nightmare of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich wreaking havoc on a brand-new MacBook keyboard. Expect tech-savvy insights, a bit of health drama, and a lot of catching up. Sponsor 1Password Extended Access Management solves the problems traditional IAM and MDM can’t . It’s security for the way we work today, and it’s now generally available to companies with Okta and Microsoft Entra, and in beta for Google Workspace customers. Check it out at 1password.com/overtired. Show Links Spanish Prisoner Out of Sight Copilot Cookbook Cursor mise Brett’s Giveaways Brett’s Favorites Lists In Your Face Acorn Chapters 00:00 Welcome Back! 01:36 Brett’s Health Struggles 16:03 Christina’s Travel Adventures 22:09 Movie Talk: Heist Films and More 28:02 AI and Privacy Concerns 37:50 Introducing Copilot Chat Cookbook 38:19 New Free Version of Copilot 39:18 Model Switching in Copilot Pro 40:12 Multi-Edit Feature in VS Code 40:46 Sponsor Shoutout: 1Password 42:12 Switching to Mise for Version Management 44:51 AI and App Development 50:35 GrAPPtitude: InYourFace App 52:28 GrAPPtitude: Acorn 8 58:47 Challenges of Modern Blogging 01:01:10 New Terminal Emulator: Ghosty 01:02:45 MacBook Pro M4 and Storage Woes 01:13:20 Upcoming Events and Farewell Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter.

Brett’s back from death’s door with dizziness and newfound medical theories, while Jeff scores a major mental health milestone by conquering his driveway chaos. They dive deep into VPNs, Tor, and Signal for all you privacy freaks, and Jeff finally finds love in Obsidian without burning out. It’s part health scare, part tech geek-out, with a side of weighted vests and shooting skeet in Wisconsin. Sponsor 1Password Extended Access Management solves the problems traditional IAM and MDM can’t . It’s security for the way we work today, and it’s now generally available to companies with Okta and Microsoft Entra, and in beta for Google Workspace customers. Check it out at 1password.com/overtired. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Hosts 00:25 Brett’s Health Struggles 01:24 Discovering Ehlers Danlos Syndrome 03:05 Navigating the Medical System 21:04 Mental Health Corner 30:03 Sponsor: 1Password 32:00 Upcoming Guest and Book Discussion 33:32 The Weighted Hug and Moonboy 34:34 Fashion Designer’s Unique Project: The Weighted Hug 35:06 Experiencing the Weighted Hug 36:37 Promoting the Weighted Hug 38:50 Discussion on Wisconsin and Politics 41:15 Guns and Personal Safety 49:45 GrAPPtitude Picks: Privacy and Productivity Apps 01:04:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Show Links Ehlers-Danlos syndrome Weighted Hug TOR Browser Signal Obsidian A Card-based layout for linkding Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript I Can’t Follow Beautiful [00:00:00] Introduction and Hosts [00:00:00] Brett: Hey, you listening to Overtired, I am Brett Terpstra. I am here with Jeff Severns Guntzel. Christina is on her usual, uh, tour of the world right now. I think she’s in Chicago this week? [00:00:18] Jeff: Yeah, or Rome, or Latvia, or Upper Sandusky. Who’s to say? [00:00:22] Brett: yeah, who knows. Um, That girl gets around. [00:00:25] Brett’s Health Struggles [00:00:25] Brett: So, um, I missed last week. I apologize. I will talk about why in the mental health corner. Um, but Jeff, how are you? [00:00:37] Jeff: doing good. I like how you apologized. The guy’s been on death’s door. Not exactly. But like, sorry everybody, I was passing out and having really one of the worst times health wise of my life. I’m really sorry to all of you that [00:00:49] Brett: Sorry for the inconvenience, everybody. [00:00:52] Jeff: Christina and I, and it was really Christina at the top of the last episode, suggested people call you, uh, like, um, Message you with [00:01:00] unsolicited medical advice. [00:01:00] Did you get any of that? I know you [00:01:02] Brett: So much. Some of it, some of it ended up being really helpful and actually led to discovering what’s going on. [00:01:10] Jeff: And that’s the problem with unsolicited medical advice that no one [00:01:13] Brett: Sometimes. [00:01:14] Jeff: is that there’s usually something hits. [00:01:19] Brett: Um, I, I, yeah, yeah, let’s talk about it. [00:01:24] Discovering Ehlers Danlos Syndrome [00:01:24] Brett: So, um, I have realized, so I had these symptoms, um, new symptoms where I was dizzy all the time, still am, uh, like constant lightheadedness, and then I started just Passing out. [00:01:40] Um, and it was always shortly after an orthostatic change, meaning sitting up or from like lying down or seated. [00:01:49] Jeff: pause, orthostatic change. That’s new for me. Listeners. Is that new for you? [00:01:55] Brett: Yeah. Uh, friend of the show, Harold Kockelmeyer, I [00:02:00] think that’s how you say his last name, um, said he was very disappointed when he learned that orthostatic meant, uh, position changes and not a skeleton that couldn’t move. Um, because he’s very, yeah, he’s, he’s very much a linguist and, and immediately wanted to dissect the term. [00:02:19] Um, we, we love you, I love you. I don’t know about everybody [00:02:23] Jeff: I would probably like you, you’ve got a great name. Both of them. And together especially. [00:02:28] Brett: we might have some mixed feelings. I don’t know. I love him. I love him. He’s a great guy. Um, so anyways, uh, like I, I suddenly started fading. I’ve been to the emergency room three times in the last couple of weeks. Um, one time minor concussion, two times, just like, Hey, what the fuck’s going on? Um, and no results. [00:02:50] All my tests came back negative. Uh, my heart came back negative. My blood pressure came back. Positive, like, uh, like, fine, [00:03:00] everything, all my blood tests were within range, no explanations offered. [00:03:05] Navigating the Medical System [00:03:05] Brett: Um, I had an echocardiogram because my doctor was convinced it must be my heart, although my doctor was convinced it must be my psychiatric meds, and he kept telling me, I can’t help you, go talk to your psychiatrist. [00:03:18] Jeff: your carpenter was convinced it must be wood rot. [00:03:22] Brett: Well, and my psychiatrist was like, this is none of the meds you’re taking on, you’re taking, explain what is happening to you. So I kept going back and forth and eventually, um, I learned from all of this unsolicited advice about Ehlers Danlos syndrome. And, um, it actually came to kind of a, uh, a breaking point when I was talking to a therapist and they were like, Can you touch your thumb to your wrist? [00:04:00] Can you do this? We’re doing this on video. Um, um, and I was like, sure, no problem. And, and they were like, yeah, normal people can’t do that. That’s called hypermobility. Um, it’s a sign of a connective tissue disorder, such as Ehlers Danlos. Um, which is often comorbid with something called POTS, which I can’t remember what it stands for, but it’s what makes you pass out when you stand up. [00:04:25] Um, and, um, All of these things individually, the symptoms are somewhat manageable, like POTS, like the solution is to drink way more water than your average human, increase your sodium intake, and wear compression socks. And with all that, sure, you’ll pass out once in a while, but maybe less. Um, the lightheadedness, I think, can be managed with medication. [00:04:53] But all of this Like, all the symptoms fit, and the interesting thing about it is, I’ve had some symptoms [00:05:00] for 20 years, such as GI issues and sleep disorders, um, and all of these can also fit into the EDS slash, um, uh, dysautonomic disorders in general. Um, so I finally have one thing that connects like everything that’s always been wrong with me. [00:05:23] Um, and, and a reason for everything. However, I can’t get a diagnosis until I get genetic testing. And my primary care physician is like, eh, let’s do an MRI first and see after like putting me through all the heart stuff. Now he’s like, let’s make sure it’s not neurological. And I’m like, just give me a referral to Mayo for genetic testing. [00:05:47] Cause I’m pretty sure I’ve got this licked at this point, like solved. And he is just ignoring everything I’m saying. So I’m switching primary care to. Gunderson [00:06:00] in the hopes that they’ll get me into Mayo [00:06:02] Jeff: Everybody in Minnesota just went, Gunderson, of course. [00:06:09] Brett: Well, I mean, my goal is Mayo. Uh, [00:06:11] Jeff: every fifth person you meet here, if they’re white, every fifth white person you meet is a Gunderson. [00:06:16] Brett: yeah. [00:06:17] Jeff: that’s more what I’m saying. [00:06:18] Brett: Yeah, well, Gunderson has a clinic in Winona, so it’s super convenient for me. Um, their doctors are here less frequently than if I were in, say, La Crosse, Wisconsin. Um, but I can get some care that way without having to drive 45 minutes every time. Mayo, which is, uh, for anyone unfamiliar, a premier medical institution in the United States. [00:06:44] Jeff: sure we have a few Saudi princes in our listenership, and they already know about Mayo, because that city is partly funded by Saudi princes. Anyway, [00:06:53] Brett: Well, it’s where they go for their, for their surgeries and [00:06:56] Jeff: I know. [00:06:58] Brett: yeah, it is, it is top [00:07:00] notch and it’s only 45 minutes away from me. Um, so if I can get in there, I can get the, the best genetic testing available in the country, um, and the best, uh, geneticists to interpret the results. Um, Interestingly, and we’ll get off this topic eventually, but I have a lot to say, I’ve discovered a lot, um, uh, a friend, I, I don’t know how public they want to be, so we’ll just say a friend of mine who is, um, a very Good Mac developer has a partner who, uh, referred to themselves as an FOAF, um, friend of a friend, um, and, and he had to, he had to message me privately to go, this FOAF is actually my partner, but, um, They went through a similar path, but they were so, [00:08:00] um, motivated that when they did their genetic testing, they went and got a certificate from Harvard in genetics [00:08:09] Jeff: Oh, [00:08:10] Brett: their own results. [00:08:12] Um, and have you? [00:08:15] Jeff: No. [00:08:15] Brett: Oh, [00:08:17] Jeff: I have so many doctorates, like, when I had diarrhea once, PhD topic. [00:08:25] Brett: yeah, but anyway, like she went whole hog and like, and really like self advocated to an amazing extent. And she is offering her expertise to me as I, as I navigate this, but this is a permanent condition that I apparently have had my whole life. Some symptoms are new, but, um, I am going to be. It’s a bummer, like, I think my whole life I’ve always had this vision of like, someday I’ll be in shape, someday I’ll be like an [00:09:00] active, healthy person, someday, like, I just gotta do things right. [00:09:04] If I just do it better, I’ll be a be

Jeff and Christina kick off the Overtired Podcast with a hearty dose of election angst, send their well wishes to Brett struggling with health issues, and dive deep into coping strategies for the shitshow that is US politics. They throw shade at the DNC, reminisce about the nightmare of 2016, and fantasize about burning it all down. In a lighter twist, we get the lowdown on a revolutionary terminal emulator, Mitchell Hashimoto’s Ghostty. Oh, and Tim Walz playing Crazy Taxi? Priceless. All this while navigating the wild west of social media insanity. Buckle up! Sponsor Blogging is making a comeback and Pika is a great way to get a blog online fast. Visit pika.page/overtired now to give yourself a chance to experience the personal internet as it was meant to be. Enter coupon code OVERTIRED20 to get 20% off your first year of Pika Pro. Show Links On “now it’s time to work” Comparing 2024 to 2004 Tim Walz plays Crazy Taxi Peggy Flanagan in her Protect Trans Kids shirt Find Any File Drafts Actions Directory Ghostty Discord Server ### Highlghts https://overtiredpod.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Highlight-Reel-of-Election-Madness-and-Terminal-Emulators.mp4 Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Host Greetings 00:16 Brett’s Health Update 02:23 Medical Advice and ChatGPT Discussion 07:51 Election Night Reflections 13:10 Coping Strategies and Mental Health 15:37 Comparing 2016 and 2020 Elections 37:24 Ad Read: Pika Personal Homepage 39:52 Releasing Back into the Wild 40:18 Political Comparisons and Criticisms 40:43 The Impact of the Iraq War 43:55 Obama’s Rise and the DNC Reset 47:53 The Long Haul of Fascism 49:20 Processing Political Stress 51:23 Reflections on 2008 and Racism 55:26 Grieving Political Losses 01:05:48 Grapptitude: Tech Tools and Apps 01:12:09 Ghostty: The New Terminal Emulator 01:18:02 Closing Thoughts and Self-Care Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Election Madness and Terminal Emulators [00:00:00] Introduction and Host Greetings [00:00:00] Jeff: Hello, brand new America. This is the Overtired podcast. Uh, I’m Jeff Severns Guntzel. I got Christina Warren with me. Hi, Christina. [00:00:14] Christina: Hi, Jeff. Um, [00:00:16] Brett’s Health Update [00:00:16] Jeff: you follow Brett on social media, uh, and maybe if you don’t, uh, you will now know that he is having some health issues. Um, and, uh, and we wish him so well. He is not here with us. [00:00:28] Christina: he is not here with us. He’s, he’s with us in spirit. We hope that he’s doing well and that we figure out, hopefully, you know, by the time this episode goes up, he’ll be closer to figuring out why he’s been having some, uh, some fainting spells and some other stuff, which is super, super scary. So, and a fucking terrible week for it. [00:00:45] I mean, it’s a terrible week in general, but like, of all the weeks for like, you know, to have to have like a health crisis on top of everything else. [00:00:52] Jeff: Yeah, it’s like the only week that would also explain that particular health [00:00:55] crisis. I’m not saying It’s I’m definitely [00:00:58] Christina: no, no, Oh, no, [00:01:00] no, no. It doesn’t seem to be, but no, but yeah, totally. It is one of those things. Well, the thing is, if it hadn’t started like before Tuesday, I think that that would have been um, like, if I were the ER doctor, I’d be like, are we sure this isn’t just a stress response? [00:01:16] Jeff: right. Yeah. Are we sure there’s not people across America passing out consistently right now? [00:01:22] No. Uh, feel better, Brett. Uh, and [00:01:26] it just sucks, and hopefully he figures it out, and if you do follow him on social media, send him, send him well wishes, um, and hope that he posts no more photos of himself from the ER. [00:01:36] Christina: Yeah. For real. For real. Um, and, and, and, and, Very sad. Um, and, and if you’re either a doctor or an armchair doctor, please respond to him, um, with, um, suggestions for how you can solve his medical problem without actually knowing what his symptoms and, and situation is, because I know he will love that. [00:01:58] Jeff: That’s a little special request he sent [00:02:00] through us. [00:02:00] Christina: It is. It is. It is. [00:02:01] Jeff: and we, we like to take care of him. [00:02:03] Christina: We, we, we do. Just, just say that, you know, Christina and Jeff wanted to make sure that he doesn’t get any sleep. [00:02:08] Jeff: Yeah, definitely. And if you’ve Googled this thing or something, you know, let him know the first thing you see, cause that’s sometimes the best thing. [00:02:15] Christina: Yeah, it’s, it’s never the worst. It’s never gonna freak anybody out or like take them down another sort of spiral. It’s never gonna do anything else. No, um, please don’t, please don’t actually do that. [00:02:23] Medical Advice and ChatGPT Discussion [00:02:23] Christina: And, and, and Brett, if you’re, if you’re listening to this, please don’t, like, WebMD yourself. Like, we, we all know that, we all know the, the fear of, or, or at this point, okay, mindfuck. [00:02:39] People are, because I’m already probably thinking of doing this, people aren’t going to WebMD themselves anymore. They’re just going to ChatGPT their symptoms. [00:02:47] Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is, which can be not helpful. Probably can be helpful in some scenarios, but can [00:02:53] Christina: I was going to say in [00:02:54] Jeff: And you can’t know, is the point. [00:02:56] Christina: I was going to say, like, I actually firmly believe [00:03:00] that if you had a really good medical LLM, or like, like a medical version of ChatGPT, which frankly, that’s what, that’s what OpenAI should do. They should start making like specialized, like off the shelf LLMs. [00:03:10] So we’re doing things specifically for certain industries that are models that are tuned similar to like GitHub Copilot, like where things that are like, Hey, this is tuned on medical analysis and information and we can have statistical data and, and we can refine the parameters so that, um, uh, certain functions are not happening, um, you know, like, um, non deterministically but are actually happening on a deterministic system. [00:03:32] So like math and things like that are always going to be correct, but we can make sure that like the, the, the training data is good. Like. Um, I could actually see, you know, that being a really, I mean, already doctors are using it and they’ve used, you know, like, uh, you know, things for years to be able to kind of like run through symptoms and try to get, you know, like, things back. [00:03:51] But like, you could see, and, you know, that be, you know, really, really good, like, diagnostic, and like, uh, analysis tool, right? [00:04:00] Um, and, and even for like, lay people, if you even had like a, a, again, you know, like, OpenAI, like, make this, make, make the medical grade one for the doctors, but then also make, like, a home version where, like, people can pay, like, 40 a quarter on addition to their ChatGPT, you know, plus bill, and they can get, like, the personal, you know, MD sort of thing, and, like, get, like, you know, like, talk to your doctor about this, um, but, like, yeah, I mean, I guess you’d have to get chemical compliance, but, Anyway, I’m coming up with all kinds of business ideas for, for OpenAI. [00:04:35] Jeff: rich by the end of this podcast, probably. [00:04:38] Christina: no, I mean, it won’t be, but like, and God only knows, like, what it’ll cost them to actually run those things. [00:04:44] Jeff: What about just a, what if, what if our goal could be by the end of this podcast to just have a little walking around money? Yeah. Yeah. [00:04:49] We don’t have to [00:04:49] Christina: that would be great. [00:04:50] Jeff: Yeah, I [00:04:51] guess [00:04:51] Christina: mean, I would love it. [00:04:52] Jeff: gives us, is a little bit of walking around money. [00:04:54] Um, Yeah. I, uh, there’s a funny, um, my, um, [00:05:00] there’s somebody in my life who was in the ER recently, I won’t be, I won’t give any indications, but she gave birth to me, um, and, and, she was, she got tested for something and then was reading the results You know, you’re in the ER and you’re, you have results, but you’re still waiting for a room for somebody to talk to you. [00:05:20] You can’t help but look at them. And she, she texts me and she says, it says, I have a collapsed bladder. I don’t, I’m eager to know what that means. And I was like, yeah, no, probably it doesn’t mean anything bad because. Medical language is funny. And what occurred to me is it might mean that you just don’t have any pee. And, and sure enough, she got to the doctor, she’s all worried about the like, collapsed bladder. What does it mean? It just means your bladder is empty. Oh, right. [00:05:48] Christina: Amazing. Amazing. Yeah. And, and, and that’s [00:05:51] Jeff: sound good. [00:05:52] Christina: no, no, but see, that’s actually a great example again of like a personal, like medical, like jargon thing. Like what does this mean? Like honestly, [00:06:00] even putting aside, okay, genuine like product idea and it doesn’t have to be OpenAI. Anybody could do this. [00:06:05] Because in this case, you wouldn’t have to be necessarily, I mean, it would be better if you were fine tuned on like, you know, medical, um, uh, books and, and, and things like that. But, but, but it wouldn’t strictly even have to be. So just having like a, a, a well tuned kind of like personal, you know, explainer be like, I can type in what this medical term is fr

This is the first of two episodes. The idea was for Merlin and Jeff to discuss how they were using chatGPT in ways that are maybe novel. The thing is, the pre-show banter became in-show banter that barely touched the intended topic, which is awesome because now, thanks to the transcript of this episode, we have fodder for chatGPT experimentation between episodes. Sponsor 1Password Extended Access Management solves the problems traditional IAM and MDM can’t . It’s security for the way we work today, and it’s now generally available to companies with Okta and Microsoft Entra, and in beta for Google Workspace customers. Check it out at https://1password.com/overtired. Show Links With that, we present to you these show notes: Overtired #402: Emotional Sweep with Merlin Mann is a pretty good introduction to the chatGPT conversation we’ll have in the second part of this two-episode set. This episode has a Spotify playlist! Merlin in the wild Merlin’s website Merlin’s Wisdom Project (Referred to repeatedly as “The Document”) Do by Friday (Podcast with Alex Cox. Hi Alex!) Roderick on the Line (Podcast with John Roderick) Reconcilable Differences (Podcast with John Siracusa) Merlin on Mastodon From the Music Jags Recommended Trash Theory episodes (YouTube): The Story of Pulp & Common People Sweet Dreams: How Eurythmics Shocked America and Made MTV Before 1976 Revisited: How Punk Became Punk Before My Sharona: How Power Pop Became Power Pop Before Nevermind: How Grunge Became Grunge Mind-bending live music recordings: Queen: Somebody to Love (Montreal 1981) Talking Heads (Rome 1980) Vivaldi’s “Summer” Presto, feat. Anne-Sophie Mutter [Maxell XLII-S Commercial] (1992) Columbia House Record and Tape Club commercial(1985) Musicians talk about how they got their Zappa gigs: Andrian Belew Steve Vai Vinnie Colaiuta Terry Bozzio Scott Thunes From the Movie and TV Jags Real good noir: Double Indemnity (1944) The Big Sleep (1946) Human Desire (1954) The Killing (1956) The Long Goodbye (1973) Blood Simple (1984) The Big Lebowski (1998) Barbara Stanwyck and Fred MacMurray in Double Indemnity Billy’s wonderful Letterboxd account Door management in the Walking Dead Father Gabriel opens the gate’ Tom Waits singing “River of Men” on Fishing with John Ice fishing with Willem Dafoe on Fishing with John From the Mental Health and Wellbeing Jags Merlin’s list of useful things to say to yourself: “Not now.” “Stay on target.” “Stop.” “Just keep doing the thing.” “Whatever, you’ll get it next time.” “What exactly are you saving this for?” Books: Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis Full Catastrophe Living by Jon Kabat-Zinn How We Live is How We Die by Pema Chödrön Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman Odds & Ends A People’s History of the United States (Howard Zinn) The Political Gabfest “mean time to weird” episode John Dickerson is very handsome and very smart and once showed Merlin a very large binder clip A collection of “Under Construction” gifs and images from Geocities Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Merlin Mann (Part One): S-Tier Face [00:00:00] [00:00:04] Introduction [00:00:04] Jeff: Hi, everybody. This is the Overtired Podcast. I am Jeff Severns Guntzel. I am normally here with my comrades, Christina Warren and Brett Terpstra. They are not here. [00:00:16] Jeff: They are comrading somewhere else with somebody else, and I have instead Merlin Mann joining me. Hello, Merlin. [00:00:23] Merlin: Jeff, how are you? I love your name. You have a, you have a nice, no, I like, I like the, the, as we say in poetry class, I like the scansion of your name. I like how, I like the mouth feel of your name. I shouldn’t [00:00:33] Jeff: Is that the, is, is that the poetry version of, I like the cut of your jib? [00:00:36] Merlin: It is very much like that. It’s a very, it’s kind of nautical verse. [00:00:39] Jeff: Nautical verse? Yes. Hey, listen, I want to get something out of the way. [00:00:43] Merlin: Yes, do. [00:00:44] Matthias Jabs [00:00:44] Jeff: Um, which is, um, and I put this in the, in the show notes kind of cryptically, um, there have been a couple of cases in listening to your podcast [00:00:53] Merlin: Wait a minute, this is about the scorpions. [00:00:56] Jeff: yes. [00:00:57] Merlin: The [00:00:57] Jeff: where, where you are, you are starting a [00:01:00] sentence that is about to include the name Matthias Jabs. [00:01:04] Merlin: no, I got it wrong. [00:01:05] Jeff: I say to myself, I don’t know, maybe it’s not, how is it supposed to be said? [00:01:08] Merlin: The thing is, you know that phenomenon that needs a name? I’ve read this word approximately 200 times, but I’ve never had to say it out. I still have friends where I don’t know really how to pronounce their name, and I don’t know, and like, you pick up your, in my case, that’s how I learned the solo for No One Like You was from Guitar for the Practicing Musician, which would have, every issue would have, this is usually called magazines, you’d buy them, and it had tablature for usually like three. [00:01:38] Merlin: Like songs. It could be eruption. It could be, you know, whatever, but like, yeah. And I, for some reason, my friends and I, I guess, cause we thought we were cool. We, we said Matthias, but I don’t think that’s right. [00:01:48] Jeff: Matthias. Yeah. I would have only read the name in Hit Parade or Circus Magazine. You know what I mean? [00:01:53] Merlin: Boy, they loved Def Leppard for a while, didn’t they [00:01:55] Jeff: loved Def Leppard. So okay. So here’s, here’s why Matthias [00:02:00] Jabs, I mean, besides the obvious, which is that he should be spoken about [00:02:03] Merlin: He shreds. Is he the one with, is he the one with the Explorer? [00:02:06] Jeff: yeah, I think he’s the [00:02:07] Merlin: He’s kind of the more, he’s, he’s the less, he’s, I was going to say he’s the handsome one, but he’s the less grotesque of the, uh, of the people. [00:02:13] Jeff: a nice way to put it. And also like saying his name as a young man might’ve been the first time words came out and I felt sophisticated. Matthias [00:02:21] Merlin: Yeah. Isn’t that a good feeling until the second later when someone goes, that’s not how, [00:02:25] Jeff: That’s how you say it, exactly! So there have been these, I think it’s twice, maybe three times, I’m listening to a podcast, you’re talking, you’re starting a sentence that will ultimately have the name Matthias Jabs in it, and I somehow know it’s coming, and it is said in my mind at the same time, and I think, how the fuck does that happen with Matthias Jabs? [00:02:45] Merlin: Isn’t that, isn’t that funny? [00:02:46] Mean Time to Weird [00:02:46] Merlin: Before we were recording, we were talking about an affliction, affliction, a gift that, that some people like us have, which is like you have a very close association between some piece of audio and either like a time or a location or a feeling, [00:03:00] often a location. But I think it’s somewhat allied to that or like today when the 45th president, because I’ve watched a lot of his rallies, [00:03:08] Jeff: That’s the one with the T. [00:03:10] Merlin: the testosterone? [00:03:12] Jeff: No, the letter T. [00:03:14] Merlin: Oh, yeah, but that’s all, it’s also the testosterone. That’s part of [00:03:16] Jeff: Yeah, that’s also the [00:03:17] Merlin: Yeah, yeah, they put it on hats now. But, uh, but he, uh, but [00:03:21] Jeff: Don’t lick my, stop licking my hat! It’s getting aggressive! [00:03:24] Merlin: ask you nicely, very nasty woman licking my hat. Think of it. He, but no, he does that thing where he goes like, you know, they’re bringing in, they’re letting him in 21 million people. [00:03:34] Merlin: They’re, from their, from their jails and their prisons, their mental institutions and their insane asylums. [00:03:40] Jeff: they’re insane. It’s like chai [00:03:42] Merlin: Okay, but here’s the thing now, Jeff, because we are, we are in the same, um, carass about this. Do you know what the next thing might be after he says, and insane asylums? Do you know what the next line is, could be if he’s in the right mood? [00:03:57] Jeff: What? No. [00:03:58] Merlin: He simply says the, he [00:04:00] begins next, his next sentence, he pauses for a minute to soak in the adulation, and then he says, the late great Hannibal [00:04:07] Jeff: Oh, the late, great Hannibal Lecter, of course! [00:04:09] Merlin: And do you know, do you know, have you, have you arrived? The reason why he always says that right after that, [00:04:15] Jeff: No, I’ve never gone for the full context, which is probably what he would ask me to [00:04:19] Merlin: this is something we’ve been exploring on, uh, do by Friday, another podcast I do, and I, and this, this very much is, um, is I’m applying scholarship from, from actual, like journalists and professional spec, professional speculators, but. What does he say? He says that they’re bringing over, they’re emptying out their jails. [00:04:35] Merlin: Then you hear, the crime is down in Venezuela, and he’ll say 70, 72 percent, 80 percent, 90 percent, right? But in this particular one, this is the vintage of the last few weeks has been, they’re emptying out their jails, their prisons, their mental institutions, their insane asylums. Hold for whatever. And then he goes, the late Great Hannibal Lecter. [00:04:56] Merlin: Silence of the Lambs. Does anybody remember the movie Silence of the [00:05:00] Lambs? You know, he would like to have you for dinner. And this has been widely, widely reported, but I wanted to, for t

On this episode of Overtired, Brett, Christina, and Jeff dive into the nuances of recording at offbeat hours, battle through heavy metal noise and prescription pill bottle museums, and share laugh-worthy tales of mental health mishaps and medication struggles. Copilot’s magic, ChatGPT’s native Mac app, and a Sinatra of everyday cheat sheets make the tech cut, while Jeff chases elusive cinematic experiences with Repo Man, Ridgemont High, and classic noir flicks. You don’t got the butts to miss this episode. Sponsors Pika makes it simple to start your own blog and take control of your place online. Get started and share your thoughts easily and beautifully at your own online address at pika.page/overtired Show Links Brett wins big Trump vs Harris Debate Repo man Repo man soundtrack Music for Cats ChatGPT Desktop (Mac) Copilot Cheatsheet Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:19 Late Recording and Drinks 01:28 Mental Health Corner: Jeff’s Journey 05:57 Mental Health Corner: Christina’s Experience 10:26 Brett’s Sleep Struggles and Vegas Trip 19:07 Vegas Winnings and Flamingo Hotel Review 25:03 Apple Event Reactions 29:54 Debates and Political Commentary 35:09 Killer Mike and Bernie Sanders 35:24 Taylor Swift’s Concert Rituals 38:01 The Art of Blogging with Pika 40:21 Repo Man: A Surprising Discovery 45:39 Fast Times at Ridgemont High 50:36 Music for Cats 53:18 GrAPPtitude: Favorite Apps and Tools Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript You Don’t Have the Butts [00:00:00] Introduction and Greetings [00:00:00] [00:00:03] Brett: Hey, you’re listening to Overtired. I am Brett Terpstra. I am here with Christina Warren and Jeff Severins Gunsel. Welcome to the show, guys. [00:00:13] Jeff: Oh, thank you. [00:00:15] Brett: It’s good to have you here. [00:00:17] Christina: It’s good to be [00:00:18] Jeff: be here. [00:00:19] Late Recording and Drinks [00:00:19] Jeff: We don’t normally record at this. It’s, it’s 5 p. m. here. It’s 3 p. m. for Christina, but actually, like, I feel more ready than I usually do. Whereas normally, if I were ending my day, I would feel very dead inside. Um, and so thank you for, uh, for giving me a different kind of ending of my day. [00:00:37] Brett: Why would you feel dead inside at the end of a day? [00:00:40] Jeff: Oh, sometimes it’s just, you’re tired. You go, you know, it’s like, you’re not interacting with people. You’re just ending and then you’re interacting. And so it’s nice. This is like a nice landing. It’s a [00:00:49] Brett: yeah. So [00:00:50] Jeff: One might say happy ending. [00:00:52] Brett: I call that like, vegging out time, which is 100 percent where I’m at right now. Um, I made a too stiff [00:01:00] screwdriver to celebrate our late recording time. Um, I, there is, there is a line where a screwdriver becomes just, there’s just too much vodka, too much vodka. [00:01:12] Christina: It’s true. It’s true. Right. Right. But sometimes, you know, that happens. Like, you just get a little bit too much and you’re like, actually [00:01:19] Brett: Wow, this tastes like grain alcohol all of a sudden. [00:01:22] Christina: Exactly. You’re like, you’re like, I could have had a little more juice with this. Yeah. [00:01:27] Jeff: All right. [00:01:28] Mental Health Corner: Jeff’s Journey [00:01:28] Brett: uh, let’s, let’s kick it off with a contained mental health corner. Um, who wants to go first? Is it going to be me? [00:01:37] Jeff: I can make a, I can do, I have kind of a quick one. I was cleaning out a sort of catch all room in our house in the basement and, um, came across this bag of like, But it was mostly empty prescription pill bottles, but it had like, uh, it was also a little museum with some leftover pills of all of the medications that I’ve [00:02:00] taken over the last few years. [00:02:01] Jeff: And, and, and that includes, you know, a period where I was over medicated, um, a period where we were just trying things. And, um, and, and that was a, those were a hard couple periods and it was, And I’m very much on the other side of that, and so it was like, at first, Almost a little chilling to look at all the medication names again and even to like rattle the bottles because there were still pills in there. [00:02:26] Jeff: I need to get rid of them. I don’t want to [00:02:28] Brett: Why do you save [00:02:29] Jeff: I didn’t save them. No, no. I honestly, like when I would change medication, I’d be like, okay, fuck this. I’m putting this in a drawer. I’m not, because I wasn’t sure at that moment, right, that I wasn’t going back to it, but I would just like squirrel it away. [00:02:43] Jeff: And it, um, it just ended up there, but anyhow, um, it, it, it just, it served as, many kinds of reminders. One is that you can come on the other side of being over medicated, having your medication poorly managed, [00:03:00] um, and even when it is well managed, the sort of stabbing in the dark period. And the other is that those things exist. [00:03:07] Jeff: And I, um, and I, I just say that for anybody out there who is, um, Currently kind of trying to dial it in, uh, that I see you and that it’s hard and that, um, had I not had some support just like in my own home and with my therapist who was different from my medication manager, uh, sort of witnessing from the outside. [00:03:30] Jeff: I don’t think I could have ever gotten out of that hole. Um, and, and so just putting that out there, it was like a, it was an intense thing to sort of interact with. And I’m so. Grateful to be on the other side of it, um, and have been on the other side of it for months now, and maybe more than a year. So that’s [00:03:48] Brett: That’s awesome. [00:03:49] Christina: That’s really great. [00:03:50] Jeff: And I got to get rid of those pills, but like, I don’t want to throw them in the garbage, and I don’t want to throw them in the toilet, and I know there’s places that recycle [00:03:55] Brett: pharmacies do, like, once a year they have, like, [00:04:00] med disposal [00:04:01] Jeff: is it like a gun buyback [00:04:02] Brett: Yeah, it is. It is. And you, you can bring any, any medications, no questions asked, and they will safely dispose of them for you. And you know there’s some kid just, like, going through the bottles, pocketing what he can get, but, you know. [00:04:16] Jeff: That’s why I wanted to mix them all up and just put them into it, you know, [00:04:20] Brett: If my therapists were also my medication manager, I would either be on way more drugs or no drugs. [00:04:29] Jeff: tough to say. [00:04:31] Brett: I don’t know which way it would turn, but [00:04:34] Jeff: Well, that’s, that’s me. [00:04:35] Christina: I was going to say, that’s me. I’m, I’m on, my, my therapist is my, also my prescriber. So yeah, it, it works out most of the time, but it does have me like in a weird thing because like, he is going to Retire or [00:04:49] Brett: Yep, [00:04:50] Christina: He, his age is at that point where I’m like, this, this will not be a forever thing. So I’m like, okay, then what the fuck am I going to do? [00:04:56] Jeff: And that’s like, that’s like a version of institutional memory, [00:05:00] right? Like, he knows not only what you’ve done, gone into, out of, but why he decided to help you with that particular medication. [00:05:07] Christina: No, exactly. And it’s like, I’m sure that, you know, he has notes and stuff and things that, you know, to be passed on and whatnot. But like, I, he’s been my person for like, I don’t know, like, like, like 24 years. Like, [00:05:19] Jeff: Yeah. [00:05:19] Christina: you know, so, um, it’s so long. Yeah. So [00:05:25] Brett: My current psychiatrist I’ve had for I’ve had it for like eight years now. [00:05:30] Christina: That’s a long time. [00:05:32] Brett: I’ve had my therapist for like six months, but I’ve been going through therapists. [00:05:37] Jeff: Burnin through him. [00:05:39] Brett: How many do I have right now? I have just two. I’m down to two therapists. [00:05:44] Jeff: That’s like me, that’s like me when I’m down to two medications. [00:05:47] Christina: Well, no, right? [00:05:48] Jeff: count, if you don’t count the old man medications, [00:05:50] Christina: right, right. Which, which, which, which we don’t, right? Like that, that’s [00:05:53] Jeff: going to count those. [00:05:54] Christina: no, no, no, no, no. [00:05:57] Mental Health Corner: Christina’s Experience [00:05:57] Brett: All right, Christina, do you have a mental health check [00:06:00] in? [00:06:00] Jeff: too. [00:06:00] Christina: mine can be pretty, um, I mean, uh, just, um, pretty minor cause I don’t really have anything to add. Although like that does have me thinking. So I’ve now been at this point, I guess I haven’t been on any antidepressant or anything. And, and we’re, we’re getting into probably like a, a 9 or 10 month period now, which, um, I think has been good. [00:06:20] Christina: Um, I’m not going to say my depression is completely gone because it’s not, but where I was when I think about where I was like a year ago this time versus where I am now, like I’m definitely in a much better place. And, and that actually just kind of reminded me of what you were saying, Jeff, like. I was in a really bad place a year ago trying to manage a new medication and trying to like come off an old one and try a new one and, and figure things out. [00:06:44] Christina: And it was not good and it was not a good scenario. And, um, uh, to just kind of plus one, what you said in terms of, you know, seeing people and, and, uh, and, uh, you know, rooting for t

Christina, Jeff, and Brett dive into a rollercoaster episode packed with wild travel tales, parenting epiphanies, and tech geekery. Christina shares her whirlwind trip to San Francisco, while Jeff reminisces about meth-centric band auditions. Brett navigates an Accidental Vyvanse Overdose and a transition to VS Code, with plenty of geek love for GitHub extensions and markdown editors. They debate light themes, licensing chaos, and the quirks of macro automation tools. Sponsor 1Password Extended Access Management solves the problems traditional IAM and MDM can’t . It’s security for the way we work today, and it’s now generally available to companies with Okta and Microsoft Entra, and in beta for Google Workspace customers. Check it out at 1password.com/overtired. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Updates 00:46 Christina’s Exhausting Trip 02:09 Travel and Mental Health 02:22 Brett’s Upcoming Vegas Trip 03:17 Brett’s Sleep Struggles 05:25 Vegas Experiences and Shows 07:42 Journalism and Blogging Challenges 13:13 Conference Stories and Intersections 18:38 Jeff’s Parenting Reflections 33:13 Christina’s Family Visit 35:52 Sponsor Break 39:06 Jeff’s Meth Story 41:32 A Strange Encounter: Learning About Meth 42:16 Oasis: The Meth Incident and Live Performances 44:21 Oasis Reunion Tour: Hopes and Realities 48:45 Accidental Meth and Concert Expenses 51:44 Switching to VS Code: A Developer’s Journey 01:09:33 Automation Tools: Keysmith and Default Folder X 01:21:19 Concluding Thoughts and Personal Updates Show Links Oracle Cloud World VS Code Keysmith Default Folder X Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Accidental Meth [00:00:00] Introduction and Podcast Updates [00:00:00] [00:00:02] Christina: What? The feed’s been updated? You’re listening to Overtired. I’m Christina Warren, joined as always by Jeff Severinskenzel and Brett Terpstra. Guys, hello. [00:00:14] Brett: As, as always, sometimes, as sometimes, all three of us are here. [00:00:18] Christina: Well, look, I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s like, let’s just, let’s just focus on the fact that again, like I said, the feed’s been updated. Like we’ve got a new episode out. [00:00:28] Brett: Um, yeah, and I, the plan is to have new episodes for a few weeks in a row here, if we, if we stick to plan. We have sponsors, and It would be more trouble to not do the episode than to do the episode. So yeah. [00:00:46] Christina’s Exhausting Trip [00:00:46] Brett: Christina, how are you? [00:00:48] Christina: Pretty good. Pretty good. Um, I, um, had kind of, I, well, I mean, I’m, I’m fine now. I slept a lot, which was good, but yesterday, which was, we’re recording this on a Saturday. Um, I, on [00:01:00] a Friday, which was our normal record date, I would have been a lot more tired if we recorded then because I was in, um, San Francisco as an in and out, like on Thursday, like I flew in, uh, in the morning and then flew out in the afternoon. [00:01:15] Christina: And, um, I don’t know, uh, be, like spending more time in airports than you spend in the city that you’re visiting [00:01:21] Jeff: That’s the worst. [00:01:22] Christina: That kind of sucks, to be honest. So [00:01:24] Jeff: sucks. [00:01:25] Christina: it was a great trip and I’m really glad that I did it and it wasn’t like that bad, but it’s also one of those things where it’s like, it’s just a not a long enough flight for the whole thing to just be like, okay, in the future, if I can, I mean, in their instance, this was one of them were like, you have to do that. [00:01:41] Christina: And, and I’m, I’m glad that I was at least close enough to do it, but you’re also kind of like, yeah, this, this sucks. Like I’m now more tired than I would have been if I had just, you know, gone someplace and stayed the night and flown back. [00:01:53] Jeff: Right, right. I know I hate that. I hate that, uh, I’m always wrong when I make the calls. [00:02:00] I don’t like traveling anymore, though, is my problem. That much. I like traveling, uh, on a vacation. I do not like traveling for work anymore. [00:02:09] Travel and Mental Health [00:02:09] Brett: Which I think is a great segue into a mental health corner. [00:02:12] Christina: Yeah, I think so. [00:02:14] Brett: travel and mental health. I um, tomorrow, or Monday I leave as this podcast is released. [00:02:22] Brett’s Upcoming Vegas Trip [00:02:22] Brett: I will be on a plane to Las Vegas. And it’s the first time I’ve traveled. I, we did a road trip this summer, but it’s the first time I’ve like flown for work anywhere in years and Vegas is not my first choice for places to be. [00:02:43] Brett: Um, but I will be flying in for a few days in Las Vegas for Oracle CloudWorld. Um, [00:02:50] Christina: World? Hell yeah. [00:02:51] Brett: and I’m presenting on topics that. I only know about because I researched them last week. Um, [00:03:00] and I have to give, well, actually like I kinda, I got out of doing most of the, like leading the presentations, but I have to be there for support and live lab instruction and everything, which is a little stressful. [00:03:14] Brett: I’m a little stressed out and like. [00:03:17] Brett’s Sleep Struggles [00:03:17] Brett: This week I stopped sleeping again. Um, not on purpose. I, I might be manic. Hard to say because like during the day I’m pretty level headed. Um, but I do tend to get up at four in the morning and start like working on code, which is kind of manic behavior for me. Um, but I figured out. [00:03:39] Brett: So like I take Three 600 milligram pills of gabapentin every night, and it’s the only way that I sleep. But then even with that, I started waking up at 2 a. m. every morning, which is, you know, not, not great, and I couldn’t fall back asleep. So what I figured out [00:04:00] was I could take Two of those pills at bedtime because I don’t generally have trouble falling asleep. [00:04:05] Brett: I have trouble staying asleep. So I take two of those pills and that gets me through till 2 a. m. Then I take the third pill at 2 a. m. which gets me through until like 5 a. m. which is a reasonable time to get up because I’ve been going to bed at like 8 30. Oh, which is going to suck in Vegas because my flight gets in at like 11 p. [00:04:24] Brett: m. on Monday. And then all of our, all of our team meals and everything are like 9 45 PM. Um, Vegas time, which I think is West [00:04:38] Christina: hours behind. [00:04:39] Brett: yeah. [00:04:39] Christina: two hours behind you. So, so, um, like, whatever, like, so if you, uh, land, so it’ll be the equivalent of like 11pm for you. [00:04:47] Brett: Yeah. That’s nuts. I, I can’t, I can’t function that late. Um, but I guess I’ll have to, I guess this is a good time to get back into like crystal meth. Um,[00:05:00] [00:05:00] Jeff: I mean, yeah, that’s an individual decision. [00:05:05] Brett: consult your doctor. Um, [00:05:08] Jeff: Oh man, that reminds me, I’m gonna flag something, I’m gonna flag something for after the corner, uh, a meth story. [00:05:15] Brett: Well, that’s, that’s my corner. I’m, I’m stressed about travel. It’s not going to be a big deal. I always pull this shit off, no problem. Um, but, [00:05:25] Vegas Experiences and Shows [00:05:25] Jeff: I wanna, I wanna jump onto one thing you, one part of a sentence you said, which is, um, dot dot, which, no, which is dot dot dot, it’s gonna suck in Vegas. Everything sucks in Vegas. [00:05:35] Christina: Yeah. [00:05:36] Jeff: Except, you know what, except, and I, I resisted this so hard when my mother in law booked us to do this, except Blue Man Group. [00:05:44] Brett: Yeah, no, I love the Blue Man [00:05:46] Jeff: Kind of great. [00:05:47] Christina: Uh, [00:05:48] Brett: too. [00:05:49] Christina: I was gonna say if you can do the shows, right? Like I had a, I had an amazing time when I took my mom to Vegas. Like I had like [00:05:56] Brett: and Teller? [00:05:57] Christina: um, [00:05:58] Brett: didn’t you see like [00:05:59] Christina: saw, we saw, [00:05:59] Brett: [00:06:00] in Vegas? [00:06:00] Christina: no, no, we saw Taylor Swift in Atlanta, but no, we saw Adele in Vegas. We saw Adele at, at, at, at, at Caesars. And we saw, um, uh, the, uh, the Beatles, uh, Cirque show, now that they’ve raised, um, the, um, um, That, that, um, um, hotel, um, because it’s going to become like the hard rock or whatever. [00:06:18] Christina: Like that’s, that’s probably not ever coming back. So I was really glad we got to see that. But we, we like went shopping, like we, it’s, Vegas doesn’t suck unless you’re there for work. When you’re there for work, it sucks, right? Like, but, but, but, but that’s how most of us go at this point. And [00:06:36] Brett: it was, it’s like CES with like the Engadget crew was always fun. Like we had [00:06:43] Christina: for you, for [00:06:44] Brett: you know, karaoke [00:06:45] Christina: Well, for you, [00:06:46] Brett: and yeah. [00:06:48] Christina: you, if you were a reporter at Engadget, it was not fun, I guarantee you. [00:06:54] Brett: Um, okay. I’ll take your [00:06:55] Christina: I, I will guarantee you it’s not fun because you literally have to be on, [00:07:00] like, the entire time. You have to wake up at 6am to go to press conferences, and you have to also go to dinners with people. [00:07:06] Christina: And yes, you have time to do team excursions, but that also means that you again have to then go out to like parties that companies are having in schmooze and then get up at 6am and you have to blog five or six things a day. Like it sucks. Like you’re, like, [00:07:19]

A Brett and Jeff episode! The co-hosts discuss Jeff’s recovery from COVID, including musings on mask-wearing fatigue. Jeff opens up about the emotional experience of dropping his son off at college, while both share their struggles with being increasingly moved to tears by everyday events (like TV commercials). The duo also dives into their longtime fondness for apps like Noteplan and DevonThink, Brett’s rewrite of his tool Planter, and the newfound allure of VS Code over Sublime. Sponsor 1Password Extended Access Management solves the problems traditional IAM and MDM can’t . It’s security for the way we work today, and it’s now generally available to companies with Okta and Microsoft Entra, and in beta for Google Workspace customers. Check it out at 1password.com/product/xam. Show Links Leeja Miller Rock Scissors The Lab (Strong Coffee) Planter (Work in progress) Moom 4 NotePlan DEVONthink Chapters 00:00 Welcome to the Brett and Jeff Show 00:29 Jeff’s COVID Experience 01:33 Masking and Public Perception 02:32 Fleet Farm Adventures 06:18 Parenting and College Drop-Off 08:01 Mental Health Corner 14:28 Emotional Reflections 22:01 Sponsor Break: 1Password 27:04 Customer Support Onboarding Challenges 28:13 Mental Health and Emotional Struggles 28:19 Political Commentary and YouTube Recommendations 30:36 Activism and Personal Experiences 33:12 T-Shirt Store Relaunch Announcement 36:34 Planter Tool and Project Management 39:42 Reviving Old Projects and Tools 44:59 Window Management with Moom 4 50:11 Noteplan and DevonThink for Organization 57:03 Switching to VS Code 59:37 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Making the Best of Goat Castration [00:00:00] Welcome to the Brett and Jeff Show [00:00:00] Brett: Welcome back to Overtired. Um, I want, uh, to have special theme music when it’s just a Brett and Jeff episode. It’s a Brett and Jeff episode! Brett and Jeff episode! Womp womp. Yeah, that works. Um, [00:00:21] Jeff: fair enough. [00:00:22] Brett: Well, it’s me, Brett Terpstra, here with Jeff Severins Gunthal. How you doing, Jeff? [00:00:26] Jeff: I’m, [00:00:28] Brett: Yep, there you go. [00:00:29] Jeff’s COVID Experience [00:00:29] Jeff: I’m, I’m getting over Covid. Uh, and I’m good. And I’m good. [00:00:33] Brett: was so well timed. [00:00:35] Jeff: Yeah, I [00:00:35] Brett: not even, I’m not even gonna edit out the cough. That was just [00:00:38] Jeff: No, it’s fine. It’s, it’s true. What’s true is what’s true, is true. You know, can’t hide the truth. [00:00:44] Brett: So, how did you get COVID? [00:00:46] Jeff: I don’t know. Transmission, uh, [00:00:49] Brett: Aerosols. [00:00:51] Jeff: aerosols, who knows? My groceries. Probably it was my groceries. I stopped wiping them off and I knew I shouldn’t stop wiping ’em off. Um, I [00:01:00] don’t know. I was traveling. [00:01:01] Jeff: I don’t know. [00:01:01] Brett: Yeah, traveling. [00:01:03] Jeff: Yeah, I don’t know. [00:01:04] Jeff: I was, I mean, I helped my, helped my, uh, firstborn move into his dorm. So I was around a lot of, a lot of people [00:01:12] Jeff: that weekend. That might’ve been it. [00:01:14] Jeff: That might’ve been it. [00:01:15] Brett: I got home from Maxstock and got an email that someone at Maxstock reported being, testing positive for COVID. [00:01:24] Jeff: It’s really, I mean, from what I understand, this strain is super contagious. Like so many people I know have It [00:01:30] Jeff: It can, it really can still kick your [00:01:32] Brett: yeah, totally. [00:01:33] Masking and Public Perception [00:01:33] Brett: And, and we’ve kind of, we’ve stopped taking precautions. Like even liberals have mostly stopped wearing masks except for people who are immunocompromised and are mad at everyone else for not wearing masks. But, um, yeah, it’s kind of, I don’t, I get it. I don’t want to wear a mask anymore. [00:01:56] Brett: Like I want it to just be over, but it’s really not. [00:01:59] Jeff: I, [00:02:00] for me, when I put them on, like, I, um, it just triggers so many fucking bad memories. And, and so I, I, as soon as I feel the heat of my breath in a mask, I’m just like, God damn it. I mean, I was a masked person to the end and, and M, I mean, I masked, I had to go one place and it was a big box store. I mean, it was better than a big box store. [00:02:19] Jeff: It was Fleet Farm, but I, and that place is always like, A, empty and gigantic. And I was, I think on the end of my I think I was, I probably was past being contagious, but anyway, I was careful. I wore a mask. [00:02:32] Fleet Farm Adventures [00:02:32] Jeff: But because I was at Fleet Farm, which is like, it’s a demographic. I mean, I’m part of the demographic [00:02:38] Jeff: for sure. [00:02:39] Brett: they are big Trump supporters. it’s a [00:02:41] Jeff: yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and, and yeah, lots of bubble trucks in the, in the, uh, in the parking lot. But I knew, cause I, [00:02:48] Jeff: I, [00:02:49] Brett: of camo [00:02:49] Jeff: I remember wearing, um, I remember wearing a mask early days to Fleet Farm, because I am part of the Fleet Farm demographic. My son actually made a Fleet Farm out of clay [00:03:00] in eighth grade. Um, but like, I, I remember going into Fleet Farm early days before everyone was wearing masks, but when like, when the liberals were wearing masks. [00:03:10] Jeff: And I, I, I remember just walking in feeling like I was ready to fight. I was just like, I was feeling defensive. I was like, why are you fucking looking at me? I’m wearing a mask, motherfucker. And I went in, I went in this time, no reason to believe that’s, that people were thinking anything about me wearing a mask, but I went in the same way. [00:03:27] Jeff: I’m like, you want me to fucking cough on you? Like, I literally had like an attitude [00:03:31] Brett: No, I, I have, I have, I have literally done that exact same thing at the exact same store. [00:03:37] Jeff: yeah, yeah, [00:03:38] Jeff: yeah, you gotta have, I bet you have a great fleet farm in [00:03:40] Jeff: Winona, [00:03:40] Brett: a fleet farm. I could walk to my fleet farm. It’s so [00:03:44] Jeff: Oh, that’s like, let’s live in a dream. [00:03:47] Brett: um, the, uh, the big, big news about our local fleet farm was Ivanka Trump showed up to pretend like she was of the people [00:03:59] Jeff: she there to buy [00:04:00] horse hairspray? Because [00:04:00] Jeff: that’s something you can buy there. [00:04:02] Brett: had, like, a photo op with, like, some stuffed animals or [00:04:05] Jeff: I remember this, actually. I remember this. Yeah, [00:04:08] Brett: It was. [00:04:09] Jeff: Stuffed animal. I mean, if you’re going to do a photo op of Fleet Farm, you have so many options. Like, there is a whole, there’s a whole horse section where you [00:04:15] Jeff: can get horse, you can get horse toys, [00:04:17] Jeff: you can get horse hairspray. There’s a [00:04:19] Jeff: section in my hometown where we have not Fleet Farm. [00:04:23] Jeff: But, Farm and Fleet. [00:04:25] Jeff: Um, [00:04:25] Brett: Wisconsin thing, isn’t it? [00:04:27] Jeff: that was Iowa, too. [00:04:28] Jeff: It’s Blaine’s or Blair’s, I forget, which I always get that wrong, even though I’ve been going since I was a kid. But you can get like, um, a bag of 100, 150, uh, goat, um, castration bands, which, Which look like the kinds of rubber bands you use for braces, which is terrible, because [00:04:44] Jeff: they’re that small. [00:04:45] Brett: holy shit. [00:04:46] Jeff: But what’s funny is my son and I, my youngest and I were there and we were, I like to, when I go to a new fleet farm or farm and fleet, I walk it because it, it all is a little different. If you’re in a, a more rural area. So my hometown is like a farming community slash [00:05:00] factory community. You’re going to get a lot more like proper farm stuff than maybe like in just. [00:05:04] Jeff: The immediate suburb of Minneapolis. So I walk every aisle, any fleet farm or farmer fleet I go into, cause I just love seeing what’s there. So we see these like goat castration bands. My, my partner’s like, you’re not buying those. I was like, they’re a buck 50. Like you never know when you’re going to need a small rubber band. [00:05:20] Jeff: And then, and then my son notices right after I say, you never know. Cause it’s some things you look at and you’re like, I can use that for problem solving down the road. You know, not just for, not just for goat castration. And, and all of a sudden my son notices that they’re using the goat castration bands to hold price tags onto all of the little price tag holders. [00:05:40] Jeff: And I was like, see, see, but I haven’t been back without her yet. And I mean, whenever I do go back without her, I’m buying my, I asked for him for a stocking, stocking stuffer this year. So we’ll see. But [00:05:51] Brett: Yeah. [00:05:52] Jeff: you know, I love a good, You know, something you can look at and go, I can problem solve with that. [00:05:56] Brett: It might be the only gift you get. [00:05:59] Jeff: That’s fine. [00:05:59] Jeff: I [00:06:00] really want them. I can’t stop thinking about them. It’s like when someone mentioned some like shitty food that you shouldn’t eat that, that, you know, you know, the second they mentioned it, all you’re going to think about till you actually get it is that thing, Fruity Pebbles are like that. Fuck. I did it. for me. But anyway, but yeah, so I, yeah, I had COVID, I was traveling. [00:06:18] Parenting and College Drop-Off [00:06:18] Jeff: I dropped my, my, um, oldest off at a, at

It’s Brett’s 46th birthday bash, and he’s celebrating in style with Jeff and Christina. Expect gifts like Cooks Illustrated and flood detectors, riveting overflowing toilet tales, and sampling fun with Koala. Dive into comedy insights with an ‘Elf’ story featuring James Caan, and honor Bob Newhart’s 1961 Grammy win. Plus, a TUAW domain kerfuffle and Macstock marvels. Laugh, learn, and maybe even fix your toilet seat! Sponsor 1Password Extended Access Management solves the problems traditional IAM and MDM can’t touch. It’s security for the way we work today, and it’s available now to companies with Okta, and coming later this year to Google Workspace and Microsoft Entra. Check it out at 1Password.com/product/XAM. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Birthday Celebrations 00:43 Gifts and Subscriptions 02:37 Home Improvement and Plumbing Stories 03:53 The Best Toilet Seat Ever 05:52 Plumbing Mishaps and Family History 11:10 Birthday Party Plans 13:40 CrowdStrike Incident 19:09 Sponsor: 1Password 21:20 Sponsor bonus content 27:33 Reviving TUAW: A Controversial Story 33:59 AI Articles and Identity Theft 35:08 The Resurrection of Old Content 35:48 Reflecting on Past Work 37:40 The Sale of Content Rights 44:50 Macstock Reunion 50:09 GrAPPtitude: App Recommendations 01:04:38 Remembering Bob Newhart Show Links Best toilet seat ever Major Windows BSOD issue hits banks, airlines, and TV broadcasters – The Verge A Beloved Tech Blog Is Now Publishing AI Articles Under the Names of Its Old Human Staff (404media.co) Early Apple tech bloggers are shocked to find their name and work have been AI-zombified – The Verge Apple blog TUAW returns as an AI content farm (engadget.com) Screen Studio Kaleidoscope Welcome Kaleidoscope 5 Koala Sampler Jammin’ on the One Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Jammin’ on the One [00:00:00] Introduction and Birthday Celebrations [00:00:00] [00:00:03] Brett: Hey, happy birthday. It’s my birthday. It’s Overtired. Um, we’re all here this week. It’s Jeff Severance Gunsel, Christina Warren, and myself, Brett Terpstra. Uh, how are you guys? [00:00:16] Christina: Not too bad. Go on, go on, Jeff. Yeah, exactly. I was gonna say pretty birth I was gonna say happy birthday. I was like, not as good as you, birthday boy, but you know, [00:00:24] Brett: I’m 46 today [00:00:26] Jeff: Forty six. [00:00:28] Brett: I’m not lying about my age like some people do. Um, [00:00:33] Christina: It might be, it might be your birthday, but I’ll still tell you to fuck off. I can lie about my age as long as I want. [00:00:37] Brett: I wasn’t singling you out. I just said some people. [00:00:41] Jeff: Some people. [00:00:43] Christina: Some [00:00:43] Gifts and Subscriptions [00:00:43] Brett: Um, yeah, I, uh, I’ve had a really good birthday. Elle, Elle knows how much I love getting gifts and I’m too old for most people to give me so they take it upon themselves to shower me. With gifts every year. [00:01:00] Um, and this year they got me a bunch of cool stuff, including a subscription to Cooks Illustrated and, uh, the book Vegetables Illustrated from Cooks Illustrated, which I’m very excited. [00:01:11] Jeff: Print subscription? What a beautiful is this still beautiful? It’s been a long time. I don’t know if it got eaten by okay, [00:01:17] Brett: I was picking them up at the co-op and just like, well actually, uh, one of the, one of the families that EL was house sitting for had them laying out. And I had forgotten how much I loved that magazine. Even like, even as a pescatarian who can’t eat half the recipes in there, they’re still so beautifully illustrated and beautifully written. [00:01:39] Brett: And it’s just, it’s a fun read. It’s food, it’s food porn. [00:01:43] Jeff: in an era yeah, but with line art. But in a in an era of like, um, the horrible, awful, terrible, evil, fascist food blog, where it’s like, let me just push all this shit away to get to a very simple recipe. [00:01:59] Brett: [00:02:00] huh. [00:02:00] Jeff: How amazing that all of the extra verbiage in Cook’s Illustrated is just towards you learning. [00:02:07] Jeff: Uh, I think it’s amazing. It was like in the day, maybe it sounds like it’s the same, it was like McSweeney’s level design attention, but like even beyond that somehow. Yeah. That’s awesome. [00:02:18] Brett: That’s exciting. Um, yeah, she also got me the book, um, Hip Hop is History by Questlove, [00:02:26] Jeff: Oh, nice. [00:02:27] Brett: cause they heard a, an interview and they’re like, Oh, this is all Brett. This is great. So they got me the book. So anyway, it’s been a great birthday. [00:02:37] Home Improvement and Plumbing Stories [00:02:37] Brett: My parents got me a flood sensor, which at first blush is ridiculous because we live high on a hill. [00:02:45] Brett: Uh, on a bluff or like on next to a bluff, but like, there’s no chance of our house flooding, but I have done things like missing, poorly install a bidet and not [00:03:00] realize that I’m flooding the basement [00:03:02] Jeff: Yeah, those are great for the basements. [00:03:04] Brett: Yeah. So, so having some, some, uh, moisture sensors around the house could be. Could be truly valuable. [00:03:13] Brett: My dad got it for me because he had recently discovered that a 30 year old toilet had begun slowly leaking into the foundation. [00:03:23] Jeff: Oh man. [00:03:24] Brett: so he’s like, everybody gets flood detectors now. [00:03:28] Jeff: That’s amazing. I bet it wasn’t the toilets fault though. [00:03:32] Brett: Well, [00:03:32] Jeff: just like a seal or something? Cause the amazing thing about toilets is they can go forever. There’s such simple machines. [00:03:37] Brett: just solid pieces of porcelain. Yeah. It would have been like a seal or something. Um, [00:03:44] Jeff: Fascinating content. Hey [00:03:46] Brett: Yeah, yeah, subscribe, subscribe for more home improvement. Um, [00:03:50] Christina: Okay. Speaking of [00:03:51] Jeff: about it all day. [00:03:53] The Best Toilet Seat Ever [00:03:53] Christina: of toilets, someone showed me, no, no, genuinely, somebody showed me the best toilet seat I’ve ever seen the other day. [00:04:00] Um, it’s, it’s, it’s from like this, this, um, LA based artist who’s pretty awesome. And she, she basically took a bunch of old smartphones and made like a toilet seat out of them. [00:04:10] Christina: Um, let me, let me find the link that I, that I can give you guys. Um, it’s really good. It’s the only problem is, and the only reason I’m not going to have it is that it’s. Is 1, 250. So, um, you know, that, that, that, that unfortunately, um, prices me out just a little bit. Yeah. The woman’s name is, uh, is Bailey, um, Hikawa and her stuff is incredible here. [00:04:31] Christina: I’m putting this link in our chat here [00:04:35] Jeff: Do you ever have to tighten your toilet seat? [00:04:37] Brett: oh yeah, [00:04:37] Jeff: Man. [00:04:38] Brett: when you sit down and it wiggles off [00:04:40] Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I find that to be probably the most disgusting of toilet related maintenance because you have to get your hands around there and get your hand under there on the nut. Uh, just very terrible and preventable. I’m sure, [00:04:55] Brett: we have one of those like bolt on bidets and in order to [00:05:00] properly clean our toilet, you have to fully remove the toilet seat and the bidet. So about once a week I do that and I’ve gotten really good at it, but I’ve also stripped out the screws by using a drill on the plastic screw. [00:05:13] Jeff: oh no, you should have called [00:05:15] Brett: the chances of ever tightening it enough that that little slip doesn’t happen when you sit down, that’s going to require [00:05:22] Jeff: Wait, let’s make this the whole podcast. I have a couple of questions. Are those screws embedded or can you replace them? Cause they, [00:05:27] Brett: Oh, they’re totally replaceable. [00:05:28] Jeff: Okay, okay. Good to know. [00:05:30] Brett: I have replaced them multiple times. I even tried replacing them with metal screws once, but that was, uh, [00:05:35] Jeff: But you only really think about it when you’re on the shitter. Yeah, that’s a problem because you can’t do anything from there. Maybe Amazon. [00:05:41] Brett: How much, how long do you think we could talk about toilets? Because [00:05:44] Jeff: I’ll tell you what. [00:05:46] Brett: haven’t even gotten into the talking toilets with the built in bidets. I, [00:05:52] Plumbing Mishaps and Family History [00:05:52] Jeff: One, my entire line of, of Gunsels, uh, in America, up until my dad [00:06:00] became a teacher, was plumbers. Gunsel Plumbing and Heating ruled the North Side. Uh, and, and so that’s one thing. Two, the reason my name is Jeff and not John, is because is because my dad was worried that coming from a plumbing fact, uh, family, I would be ridiculed for having a name that is also what you call a bathroom. So I can talk about this all day, uh, but we should probably stop for the sake of our, our, [00:06:25] Brett: No, I’m, I’m digging this. It’s my birthday and I want to talk about toilets. I actually worked as a, [00:06:31] Jeff: what you wish for. [00:06:32] Brett: I worked as an apprentice plumber in, uh, in college and have installed my fair share of toilets. I enjoy everything from the wax ring up. Um, that’s, that’s actually [00:06:45] Jeff: The wax ring is fascinating. For people that don’t know, the seal that keeps your toilet from doing what Brett’s dad’s toilet did, for the most part, is a fucking wax ring to this day. [00:06:57] Brett: And it’s

Overtired Goes Overtime with Sports, PTSD, and Coffee Controversies In this episode of Overtired, Brett and Christina are joined by guest Jay Miller for an impromptu sports-centric discussion that spans the globe from baseball to European soccer. Along the way, they dive into the logistics of crazy travel schedules, the trials of corporate events, and the importance of happy birthday attention. They also discuss the latest in Mac tools, including Launch Control, Ecamm Live, and the rising star, Mise. All this while periodically engaging in sidebar rants about loud tech conferences and the struggles of navigating evolving relationships during Father’s Day. Grab your AeroPress, sit back, and enjoy the tangents. Sponsor Travel better with better coffee. Head to aeropress.com/OVERTIRED and save 20% off your order! Thanks to AeroPress for sponsoring today’s episode! Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Host Welcome 00:29 Christina’s California Adventures 01:21 Travel Plans and Pet Dilemmas 04:54 MHC: Family Visits and Birthday Plans 10:32 MHC: Jay’s PTSD and Conference Experiences 25:17 MHC: Christina’s Week at DubDub and Pixar Visit 29:43 Balancing Work and Personal Events 30:53 Upcoming Speaking Engagements 31:39 Sponsor: AeroPress Go Plus 34:20 The Art of Coaching in Sports 35:26 The Fascination with Baseball Stats 41:05 The Journey of Baseball Players 43:20 The Culture of Baseball and Minor Leagues 54:10 grAPPtitude: Exploring Live Streaming Tools 58:35 grAPPtitude: Managing Development Environments 01:02:19 grAPPtitude: Launch Control for Mac 01:04:21 Concluding Thoughts and Future Topics Show Links Macstock (use code TTSCOFF) Black Python Devs LaunchControl Ecamm Live mise asdf comparison Highlights https://overtiredpod.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Highlight-Reel-of-Weirdly-A-Sports-Episode.mp4 Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Weirdly, A Sports Episode [00:00:00] Introduction and Host Welcome [00:00:00] [00:00:02] Brett: Hey, you’re listening to Overtired. I am Brett Terpstra. I am here with Christina Warren. Jeff is out this week, but filling in, we have Jay Miller. Welcome to the show, Jay. [00:00:15] Jay: What’s up? It’s always good to be here. Also, sorry if I sound not like me. I’ve been, I’ve been conferencing a lot lately. So, [00:00:24] Christina: The voice, the voice goes out a little [00:00:25] Brett: good. You sound good. [00:00:27] Jay: the voice is always low. [00:00:29] Christina’s California Adventures [00:00:29] Brett: And Christina just got back from California. [00:00:32] Christina: I did. I did. And I’ll be back in California in a week. [00:00:37] Brett: That’s a lot of California. [00:00:38] Jay: That sounds like my July. [00:00:41] Christina: Yeah. Yeah. Um, this, this was not like an intended thing. Like, Christina thought that she was going to be in California. Last week, and then was asked to, well, thought that the ask was to be in California for maybe a day or two next week. [00:00:56] Christina: Turns out, no, I misinterpreted some things, or maybe some things are [00:01:00] misinterpreted to me. Regardless, I’ll be in San Francisco the week of the 24th through the 28th, so [00:01:07] Brett: started that in the third person and finished in the first person. That was a, [00:01:11] Jay: I love it. [00:01:12] Brett: that was a cool transition. [00:01:14] Jay: I, um, I made the, the concerted commitment with the job that I’m at to not travel a lot. And then after. [00:01:21] Travel Plans and Pet Dilemmas [00:01:21] Jay: Uh, my wife and my daughter are planning a month long trip, um, also to California and I’m staying home to do work. It was like, well, I could probably travel a little bit more. So the, the week of like July 8th, I’m going from New York, from New York to Toronto. [00:01:43] Jay: I’m back home for two days, then I fly back to New York, and then I’m there for another four more days. I get back, I’m back for a week, and then I fly to London for the Relay event. And I was just like, I did not realize how stupid I was in all of my [00:02:00] bookings. [00:02:00] Christina: right, right. Yeah, it totally, if you thought about that more, like, you probably would not have, like, gone back and forth between, like, Toronto and and home just to come back to New York, [00:02:11] Jay: Well, it’s like I have to, I would have to pay And like, our, our company was like, we’ll pay for the event plus a day before and after. So I was like, okay, that’s awesome. But that also means that I like fly home for three days and do nothing. And then like, do I even get my dogs out of like the pet hotel at that point? [00:02:34] Jay: Or like, do I just leave them in? [00:02:35] Brett: Of course you do. You gotta see your dogs. [00:02:39] Jay: I mean, they’re kind of dumb. I love them, but they’re kind of dumb. [00:02:44] Christina: Well, no, but that is like a hard thing to figure out like yeah Cuz you’re there like just long enough where you’re like, okay It does make sense for me to pick them up, but I’m gonna have to drop them back off Anyway, probably the day before I leave depending on when I’m leaving. So you’re like, okay So is it worth it for 24 [00:03:00] hours, right? [00:03:00] Christina: Like is it like yeah, that that that That’s a hard calculus. [00:03:04] Brett: I think it would take me like two weeks to miss my dog. Um, like she’s lovable in short bursts, but Man, like, give me a week away and I’m like, oh, man, I don’t miss that dog. [00:03:18] Jay: I feel like it’d be cool if I could just do visitation rights. Just like, Hey, can I just go to the pet hotel and be like, Hey, I see you. [00:03:24] Brett: There you go. [00:03:25] Jay: look [00:03:25] Christina: I mean, honestly, I mean, honestly, that would be the best thing. You’d be like, look, I’m going to continue to pay you continuously. But like, I would love to take, can I take the dog out? Can I take him out for a walk? [00:03:34] Brett: Yeah. You get all, you get all the fun, the visitation. You’re like the, the divorced dad who, who gets to like spoil his kids on weekends and then doesn’t have to do childcare the rest of the week. [00:03:49] Christina: Mom is so pissed. Mom in this case is, is, is, is the pet hotel. Although the pet hotel is getting [00:03:54] Jay: they’re getting paid. You’re getting, you’re getting dog support. Like, I feel like [00:03:57] Christina: to say [00:03:58] Brett: like alimony. [00:04:00] I’ve never been, I’ve never had kids. I don’t know what I’m talking about. [00:04:04] Christina: Yeah, I, same, but, but I was gonna say this is, this is gonna be like double alimony, right? This is like double child support. [00:04:09] Christina: You’re like, oh, mom, you get, you get this and the kids get stuff. So like, actually don’t be as much of a bitch about this, because I promise. [00:04:16] Jay: of a broken home, it tracks. [00:04:19] Brett: Oh, wow. I wonder how many people we just offended. Or, or hurt. Happy Father’s Day! [00:04:26] Christina: Yeah. [00:04:26] Jay: Yeah. [00:04:30] Christina: Oh my god. I have to, I have to call, I have to call my dad, [00:04:33] Brett: Yeah, I remembered, I remembered like an hour before this, I sent my dad a Amazon gift card. Um, which is what I do on stupid holidays like Father’s Day and Mother’s Day. I’ll show up for a birthday. [00:04:46] Jay: They called me, so I feel like, I feel like that was their hand of like, Oh, I should probably tell them Happy Father’s Day. I [00:04:54] MHC: Family Visits and Birthday Plans [00:04:54] Brett: Um, So yeah, if I could start a mental health corner, it’s actually kind of [00:05:00] related. Um, I went to breakfast with my parents, which I haven’t done for like a year because of the whole like religious trauma, complex PTSD thing, and I showed up and they had hidden all of their religious stuff. Uh, they took down like God is love stuff off the wall. [00:05:21] Brett: They took all the like, uh, they had like Newsmax magazines and stuff. Last time I visited and all of that was hidden. Everything that could trigger me was hidden away and it felt super respectful. And the conversation stayed on like family and work and. Nothing triggering, and it was actually a pretty good visit. [00:05:42] Brett: We decided we’ll try to do it monthly moving forward instead of weekly. But yeah, I was impressed. Yeah. Um, [00:05:51] Jay: feel like quarterly would have been my goal. Like, I, I, I love, like, Seeing my parents and then [00:06:00] having that space, like, I mean, this whole move out east was to be like in between my parents and my grandparents. And it was like, great, Thanksgiving comes around, Christmas comes around, birthdays, like [00:06:13] Brett: you have to, do they show up at your place in between? Do you have to host them? [00:06:18] Jay: Yeah, which I don’t mind, like, I mean, we have the space now. And like, honestly, the kitchen that we we grabbed, like, the big selling point was the double ovens. So that like, Cooking and doing the big, the big family get togethers is, it’s like, kind of like, you can do it. Um, and then they’ll bring stuff, so that’s always nice. [00:06:39] Jay: But yeah, instead of people complaining that, oh, it’s a five hour drive, or it’s a flight, it’s like, well, now it’s a two hour drive. And, um, Yeah, and I’ll make that like, I’ll go visit my mom for Mother’s Day or whatever, and then I’ll go up and visit my grandparents for their birthdays, and then, you know, at that point, I’m seeing someone once a quarter, and I’m like, this is good. [00:06:59] Jay: This [00:07: