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Welcome to Audiogyan and I'm your host Kedar Nimkar. Audiogyan brings you conversations with the most influential figures in the Indian creative world - Artists, filmmakers, musicians, architects, writers, curators and designers. I had the honor of hosting remarkable guests like the late Ar. B.V Doshi, Sujata Keshavan, Varun Grover, Taufiwu Quereshi and many more…
We deep dive into their philosophies to understand their worldview. I hope these enriching conversation fuel us with inspiration and understand design and art in the larger context.
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David M. Torn, an American guitarist, composer, and producer once said, “The original source of any loop is whatever your sound is, at the moment of input.” Well to unpack this and know more about looping, we have Vasuda Sharma with us on Audiogyan.
Vasuda is a Singer, Songwriter, Producer, and Performer. In fact, being a performer, I have seen her live, playing multiple instruments and live looping at Blue Frog a long time ago. She is trained in Indian classical music. After composing many songs, she later decided to study music more rigorously. Vasuda studied Contemporary Writing and Production at Berklee. More about her in the show notes. We’ll try and understand some basics of looping in the context of music.
Questions
What is looping? (More abstract and philosophical)
What is looping in the context of music? Is it close to tiling? Is it only to set the rhythm and to create a base texture or something more?
Any short history about it? When and how did it start? How did you get into it?
How do you arrive at a final song? What comes first while you create a track, the base cycle of looping or the tune or the lyrics, or anything else? I suspect these happen simultaneously due to their nature, but if we can break it to understand? 🙂
What’s the trip/kicks-in looping? On one side doesn’t it feel restrictive since you working in the same taal / tempo? No? Can you give an example of how looping can be explorative?
What are the different approaches for looping as an art form? Any difference between live looping and recording? Is anything that is more challenging than others?
What is the long-term future of looping in this digital world? Any artists to follow?
Reference Reading
https://www.vasudasharma.in/
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2ED6kjY3EyIRkxM2HAbrCL
https://music.apple.com/in/artist/vasuda-sharma/403246645
https://twitter.com/vasudasharma
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHvU7UkPj1jHpHbuletJzVg
https://www.youtube.com/user/vasudasharma
https://soundcloud.com/vasuda
https://www.instagram.com/vasudasharma/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/vasuda-sharma-86262034/
https://mixtapelive.in/artists/vasuda-sharma/
Kamini Rao has built giant cakes, designed cozy mountain homes and boozy retro diners, created fake airplanes, and architected a house for a doll. Although her work is deeply rooted in architecture and interior design, we will be talking about space, exhibition, and set design. She is a multidisciplinary designer with a focus on collective experiences using art and architecture. She founded Studio Slip in 2018 with the aim to bring an experimental approach to interior design. At SLIP, she heads a team of architects and designers and together they design cultural spaces, museums, and exhibitions but also work in the commercial and residential realm.
Questions
Let's start with what kind of work you exactly do.
What are exhibition design and set design? What is the kind of brief you get? Which are the entities involved in any exhibition and while making a set; from a designer’s point of view?
How does a space for an exhibition come to be? What are the steps involved in it? If you can explain with and example?
How do you decide when to use a fake and when to get an original for a particular theme?
How and from where do ideas come from since each theme will be different? From where do you seek inspiration? People involved in the exhibition, theme, objective of the project, or anything else?
How much of overlap does architecture, interior design, industrial and furniture design have while designing an exhibition or making a set? Again if any example to explain?
In design, we call the best design to be invisible design. How much of it holds true in spatial design?
Can you share the most fun and exciting project you did and a few nuances of it? Maybe a little bit about the Doll Project or any of your miniature spaces?
I have been to film sets and other productions. Usually, what's in the frame is clean while outside the frame it’s usually messy. Why? How does your designer in you make peace with it?
What’s the future of space design, exhibitions, and real spaces where the world is moving towards a meta-verse? 🙂
Reference reading
https://www.instagram.com/kaminira0/?hl=en
https://studioslip.com/home
https://worldarchitecture.org/architecture-news/evvvz/of-dioramas-dollhouses-and-design-collaboration-interview-with-ruchika-nambiar-and-kamini-rao
https://studioslip.com/bodiesatsea-ncbs-exhibition-design
https://tbcy.in/what-is-spatial-design-kamini-rao-founder-and-creative-director-studio-slip/
I am not sure where do I start today’s episode since it’s about aesthetics. This concept can be seen in mathematics, arts, poetry, literature, music, sculpture, photography, cooking. In fact anything that you see, smell, taste, touch or hear. So lets leave it to our today’s guest, Saugata Bhaduri. He is an Professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) in Delhi, India. A scholar in the field of aesthetics, which is the philosophical study of beauty and taste. As a professor at JNU, Saugata is known for his engaging and thought-provoking lectures and has made a significant impact on the education of students in the arts and humanities. Through his teaching, research, and engagement, he is making important contributions to the field of aesthetics and to the study of the arts and humanities more broadly. We’ll try and understand some basics and how to go about understanding aesthetics.
Questions
What are aesthetics? How would you define aesthetics, and what role do you see it playing in the study of the arts and humanities?
Since it’s about beauty and taste, is it subjective or objective? Who defines aesthetics? Are there any categories to classify or framework to understand aesthetics?
How do you approach the study of aesthetics from an interdisciplinary perspective, and what benefits does this bring to the field?
What role do you think aesthetics plays in shaping the society? How do you think it can be used to address social and cultural issues?
Can you discuss any current research or initiatives in the field of aesthetics that you find particularly interesting or important, and why?
Reference Reading
https://www.jnu.ac.in/content/bhaduris
https://jnu.irins.org/profile/56659
https://twitter.com/saugata_bhaduri?lang=en
https://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=H_0CYrgAAAAJ&hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/saugata-bhaduri-42743133/?originalSubdomain=in
https://www.amazon.in/Books-Saugata-Bhaduri/s?rh=n%3A976389031%2Cp_27%3ASaugata+Bhaduri
https://www.facebook.com/saugata.bhaduri/
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Saugata-Bhaduri
Rajni Bakshi joins us on Audiogyan. She is an Indian author, researcher, and activist. Her work primarily focuses on issues related to non-violence, economics, ecology, and peace. Rajni is the founder and curator of Ahimsa Conversations, an online platform for exploring the possibilities of nonviolence. More about her in the show notes. I have been to Vipassana a couple of times and found that peace is an outcome of a war. This made me curious to have a conversation with Rajni on understanding the design of Peace. A small note before we start. These are complex subjects of a lifetime. As I and Rajni spoke about this before the recording, we are all exploring the right questions for the given answers.
Questions
What does nonviolence (Ahimsa) mean to you? Tell us a little bit about “Ahimsa Conversations”. How and where did all of it begin?
Isn’t violence part of nature - “survival of the fittest”? Also one fights with oneself to perform better (an athlete for eg.) How do you see violence with this lens?
How do you respond to criticism that non-violence is ineffective or idealistic in the face of oppression and violence?
How do you see using non-violence as a means of social change? In your view, what are some of the key challenges to promoting and practicing non-violence in our communities and societies? Gandhi is the biggest example of changing the power structure through non-violence. Do you think it’s possible today?
What is the long-term future of violence as a concept?
Reference Reading
https://www.crackerandrush.com/case_studies/ahimsa/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajni_Bakshi
https://www.rfp.org/leadership_member/ms-rajni-bakshi/
https://www.awakin.org/v2/calls/308/rajni-bakshi/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzMW9biiFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wI2D243IsQ
https://indianexpress.com/profile/columnist/rajni-bakshi/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajni-bakshi-29ba0a2/?originalSubdomain=in
https://www.youtube.com/@AhimsaConversations/featured
In episode 220 with Hrush Bhatt, he said, a sculptor knows his / her medium, marble, mud, or stone, and an architect knows what kind of material he/she wants, similarly, a digital product designer should know how to code, design and write copy. Today we have a guest who is a perfect blend of understanding materials and implementing them in her practice. Sagarika Suri - a practicing architect and urban designer in Mumbai. She practices small and large-scale projects through Studio Tessera based in Mumbai and dabbles with materials at rockpaperscissors. It’s a material lab for the studio to experiment with ideas and concepts on a smaller scale. Sagarika is also a part of CSA which is the Collective for Spatial Alternatives and has been engaged in self-development and low-cost housing projects in Mumbai.
Questions
What does material mean to you? Has that definition changed over time? How important it is for a designer to know his/ her medium? Why?
What is "rockpaperscissors"? Why did you start it?
From your research on materials, what are you trying to arrive at? Is there a goal or just exploration? Because it is said that material is just a medium. (as BV Doshi says, even RCC can be made to look beautiful).
What are a few parameters on which you evaluate a material? Is there a framework or set of guiding principles to identify good material versus bad?
You also engage in repurposing/reusing waste. Here plastic seems to be the most versatile material if used properly. Tell us about plastic and your engagement with waste.
Which is the most versatile material, plywood, paper, resin, concrete, glass, and cloth that you are currently working with or anything else?
How do you investigate the short-term and long-term implications of a particular material? If you can give any examples?
Can you explain the process by taking an example of any material and how has the journey been so far? What have you uncovered? How about Liquid Plywood for eg?
How does this help in your commercial projects?
What is the future of materials? Which material do you think will dominate the market? We see a lot of sustainability brands mushrooming all over. Do you think they will scale?
Reference reading
https://media.biltrax.com/sagarika-suri-breathing-new-life-into-construction-waste-materials/
https://surfacesreporter.com/architect/105/ar-sagarika-suri
https://syntalk.wordpress.com/episodes/turn-six/tcafg/
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3psCaazWtE3Kmeck0HnRiS?si=e74c7076d3a14016
http://studiotessera.in
http://studiotessera.in/rock-paper-scissor/
https://www.instagram.com/surisagarika/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/rockpaperscissors_bombay/?hl=en
Today we have Dr. Keshavchaitanya Kunte with us on Audiogyan. He is a Harmonium player, composer, and musicologist. Keshavchaitanya Sir received extensive training in Hindustani Art music, for Harmonium under the able guidance of Dr. Arawind Thatte. For vocal music from Pt. Mohanrao Karve and Dr. Ashok Da. Ranade for musicology.
We’ll try to document Keshavchaitanya Sir’s thoughts on parampara (tradition) and paddhati (methodology) in the context of Hindustani Music. Just as a disclaimer, these subjects are studies of a lifetime and it’s almost impossible to pack in an hour or so… Please consider these as conversation starters.
Also before we begin, a special thanks to Dakshina Dwarka Foundation and Baithak Foundation for introducing me to Chaitanya sir. I met him at a workshop organized in Pune in 2022 on Talking with Tradition. This Audiogyan will be in Marathi and English
Questions
What according to you is Prampara and Paddhati? I know these are 2 massive subjects but just a brief introduction will help.
What are the main 5 categories of Indian music? (That Dr. Ashok Ranade spoke about) Do all of them have paddhati?
Seems like all music will have paddhati but does all of them have parampara? How do you define parampara in Music?
In classical music, you are supposed to undergo rigorous training to master what? Paddhati? When and how are you allowed to experiment?
In the music world, we hear this often, “The Lalit that morning by Aamir Khan will be etched in the heart for life”. What is the significance of time and place in this context? Which aspect of parampara and which aspect of paddhati keep the relationship?
What according to you is the difference between “Shastrokta sangeet” and “Shastriya sangeet”?
Reference Reading
http://baithak.org/talking-with-tradition/
https://unipune.academia.edu/KeshavchaitanyaKunte
https://chaitanyakunte.weebly.com/profile.html
https://www.instagram.com/keshavchaitanya/?hl=en
https://chaitanyakunte.wordpress.com/about/
https://www.facebook.com/keshavchaitanya
https://audiogyan.com/2022/04/28/baithak-foundation/
https://www.amazon.com/Kabir-Way-Mandar-Karanjkar/dp/938566557X
https://twitter.com/mandarkaranjkar
https://www.youtube.com/c/MandarKaranjkar1
If you want the truth,
I’ll tell you the truth:
Listen to the secret sound,
the real sound,
which is inside you.
-Kabir.
Today we have such a person with us on Audiogyan who has not only heard his inner voice but also share himself as a work of art. He happens to be born n raised in Kashmir. Would his work of art be any different if he was born raised anywhere else in the world ? I am pleased to have Mohammad Muneem Nazir with us on Audiogyan. He is a poet, singer-songwriter. His artist name is Alif. He is the winner of the IRAA Award for his single “Like a Sufi” and the Dada Saheb Phalke Award for the single “Lalnawath”. He conceptualizes and directs Alif’s videos. Muneem teaches Urdu poetry/songwriting at Symbiosis College of Arts and Commerce in Pune and also conducts various poetry/song writing workshops.
Questions
Who according to you is an artist? What does art mean to you? Can you separate art from the artist?
Does an artist need to be always in pain? or seeking pain? How instinctive is “writing” for any poet? or for you?
In your DD Kasheer interview, you casually mentioned that you want to stay with a positive vibe - While your poetry seems to be dark at times. Could you talk about it a little more?
You often say, the Kashmiri language has a lyrical quality to it and the words feel musical. Even though your compositions seem soothing and melodic but the lyrical content has some undercurrent. Any observations you saw in your work?
This is in the context of your song, “Lalnawath”. There can be multiple takeaways from it. Is there any threshold of abstraction when you say what you want to say but still making it palatable to the listener/reader of your poetry?
I interviewed Varun Grover a long time ago and he said that a poet is creating art within the environment he or she is living. While few artists have done amazing work in exile. How and when can one reflect or zoom out to see the larger narrative? Is there a larger narrative while poets live in a utopian world?
Reference Reading
https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/music/mohammad-muneem-of-alif-on-their-unique-music/article25908501.ece
https://rollingstoneindia.com/alif-mohammad-muneem-siyah-azizo/
https://twitter.com/alifsmusic?lang=en
https://www.instagram.com/everythingisalif/?hl=en
Vinu Daniel joins us on Audiogyan. He is an Architect and did his B. Arch in 2005 from The College of Engineering, Trivandrum. After that, he worked with Auroville Earth Institute for the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme) Post-Tsunami construction. On returning from Pondicherry in 2007 he started 'Wallmakers', an architectural practice that deals with sustainable and cost-effective architecture. Mud bricks, recycled materials, eco-friendly methods of construction, and apt utilization of natural resources shaped Vinu's design philosophy. We’ll try and document some of his thoughts on mud as a material and what is truly sustainable.
Questions
According to BV Doshi, cement is just another material. It depends on how we use it. What’s wrong with cement?
What’s so beautiful about mud as a material? It gives a lot of warmth. What’s the extent to which Mud as a material can be exploited? Can we build a skyscraper with mud?
In UI design, we have an atomic theory for building design systems. In your case, is brick the foundation block? How do you build foundations?
At Wallmakers, how do you ensure Mud is sturdy and stable? How do you ensure that waste doesn’t spoil the architecture in a long run? Tell us a little bit about Debris Wall and Shuttered Debris Wall.
“Sustainable” is now an overused term. It loses its actual meaning over time. While you have been practicing it pretty religiously / judiciously. What does it mean to you? What is truly sustainable?
When we are focused on a particular agenda/approach, we tend to have less focus on other dynamics. For eg: If everything is about sustainability, What about architecture that invests in creating space for conversations? (Like Correa) - How do you balance them in your work?
What is the long-term future of housing, shelter, and security according to you? (Do you see any flip side to the name “Wallmakers”?)
Reference reading
https://www.wallmakers.org
https://architectuul.com/architect/vinu-daniel
https://www.instagram.com/ar.vinudaniel/?hl=en
https://www.gqindia.com/live-well/content/indias-most-radical-architect-vinu-daniel-is-getting-even-more-radical
https://www.stirworld.com/think-columns-vinu-daniel-feels-at-home-with-the-brick
https://www.beautifulhomes.com/magazine/lifestyle/features/architect-vinu-daniel-creates-sustainable-homes-that-look-good-a.html
https://www.designpataki.com/videos/sustainable-design-practices-with-architect-vinu-daniel/
https://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/vinu-daniel-sustainable-architect-participates-in-exhibition-on-climate-change-our-time-on-earth-in-barbican/article65353319.ece
https://worldarchitecture.org/architecture-news/enfvm/-we-must-give-back-to-the-site-says-wallmakers-founder-vinu-daniel.html
Swami Vivekananda once said that “Get extensity with intensity, but not at its expense.” I guess our today’s guest has been trying to achieve both very elegantly in her practice, breadth, and depth at the same time. Happy to have Ruchika Nambiar with us on Audiogyan. Ruchika is an artist, designer, and writer. Her work ranges across media, from publishing books, graphic memoirs, interactive social media stories, design consulting practice for brands and businesses as well as a mentorship program for young artists and designers. We’ll be talking about what it takes to be an interdisciplinary designer. She has some really well-documented videos on her youtube channel and website.
Questions
What is your definition of design and what’s your definition of art?
What does it really mean to be an interdisciplinary designer or an artist? Is it an outcome to input? How do you compare it with being a T-shaped designer?
Can one start being interdisciplinary? As Massimo Vignelli says, “if you can design one thing, you can design everything”. How would you respond to that?
What comes first for such designers - Thought or the medium to explore?
In your talk “10 Practical Realities of a Multi-Disciplinary Practice” on youtube - you mention, “use your best skill first” - isn’t it difficult to become best at one thing while doing another?
I have heard multiple times (recently by Varun Grover) that if you wish to write, do all other things than writing. Then write. Basically, expose yourself to many other things which fuel your creativity. What does an interdisciplinary artist or a designer consume?
[personal question] From whatever I gather after researching you and seeing your work, it’s quite a feat. Plus you talk about being a project manager, handling billing, building relationships, and so on… Do you feel you are spread thin? What keep you motivated on so many levels?
Reference reading
https://www.ruchikanambiar.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVxy7nt3zp0
https://www.youtube.com/@RuchikaNambiar/videos
https://www.instagram.com/thatruchika/?hl=en
https://adplist.org/mentors/ruchika-nambiar
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruchikanambiar/
Anton Chekov’s famous lines in his book are… “If you say in the first chapter that there is a rifle hanging on the wall, in the second or third chapter it absolutely must go off. If it’s not going to be fired, it shouldn’t be hanging there.” Well, I guess our today’s guest has an innate and instinctive quality to decide what’s in the frame and what's not. Be her earlier stint as a photojournalist or her avatar as a production designer for numerous films since 2006. I am pleased to have Meenal Agarwal with us on Audiogyan. She has been a production designer for many films like Ankhon Dekhi, Hitchki, Pari, Bulbul, Dum Laga Ke Haisha, and most recently the Netflix film Qala.
Questions
What does a film mean to you? What are the other 2 things that matter the most to you in a film apart from the story?
I guess, in the early days of cinema, there was not really an explicit role of a production designer (at least in India). Most of the stuff was done by the director and the cameraman. How did it come to be? Why did we feel the need for production designers? Scale? More attention to detail? Quality of the narrative?
What is production design in the context of a film? How are they different from Art directors or set designers?
Who are the key stakeholders of a production designer? How much of a role do they have in refining / changing the narrative? Any example from Aakhon Dekhi or rk-rkay or Dum Laga ke haisha?
How much space is important in your work? When do you decide to make a replica or use the original? Can you briefly explain what are the steps to arrive at the final output? What’s kind of a process? Maybe take a recent example of Qala which is set in the 1940s in Calcutta.
How do you decide what stays and what’s not required in the frame keeping the larger story in context? Since you are creating a whole world out there - How big is the team generally for small-scale production and large-scale production?
All might seem possible in the pre-production stage but during the shoot, budgets might just shoot up. What compromises does a production designer do? Again with any example?
What is more satisfying as a creative designer - working on relatively large budget films like Hitchki and Shakuntala Devi or bootstrap films like rk/rkay?
What is the future of Production Design when everything is going digital? First, it was actors on green screen and now humans are replacing AI-driven characters.
If you have the conclusion by giving some tips for those who wish to get into this space, what would be those?
Reference Reading
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1440715/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/meenal-agarwal-3827555/?originalSubdomain=in
https://www.mid-day.com/sunday-mid-day/article/working-as-a-photojournalist-was-like-riyaaz-23260028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnV0GNtHlyU
https://www.instagram.com/lifaafa_/?hl=en
https://scroll.in/reel/1037258/the-art-of-qala-art-nouveau-and-a-lot-of-drama-in-the-darkness
Audiogyan is proud to partner with UnBox Cultural Futures Society and What Design Can do. What Design Can Do, is an international organization that seeks to accelerate the transition to a sustainable, fair, and just society using the power of design.
WhatDesignCanDo is launching the “Make it Circular Challenge” - a global design competition building a circular future in partnership with IKEA. This Challenge invites designers and creative entrepreneurs everywhere to submit design-driven climate innovations. The end goal? To show the world that a circular future is not only imaginable — but actionable. Winning projects will be propelled into 2023 with €10.000 in funding and a tailor-made development program. Submit your proposals online for free by 31 January 2023. Check out the design briefs and learn more about them at makeitcircular.whatdesigncando.com
Pepijn Zurburg joins us on Audiogyan. He is a designer and an art director. During his studies at the Utrecht School of the Arts and Sandberg Institute, Pepijn met Richard van der Laken. Together, they founded the renowned visual design agency De Designpolitie, the graphic design collective Gorilla, and What Design Can Do. Their work has won numerous awards and features in the permanent collection of galleries such as Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam and MoMa New York. Working with partners and clients from KPN to Frascati Theatre, and many more. Pepijn is responsible for leadership and strategy, branding, and visual communication for everything at “What Design Can Do”. A true allround designer with a strong hands-on approach.
Questions
What's your definition of design? How has it changed over time?
What according to you is a “short term” and “long term” view on using Design, for profitability? What according to you, design can really do and what are we doing?
What is the “What can design do” competition about?
What are the fundamental aspects of circular design for this year's theme?
What made you start with Richard, “What Design Can Do”? Any moment, project, or milestone which you think is a trigger/starting point?
Can you give us a panoramic view from 2015 till today? Maybe talk a little bit about the start with the “refugee challenge” and others to this year's “make it circular” challenge
Design is a continuum (Naveen Bagalkot), a process where we peel layers by shipping. What framework do you use to evaluate that proposed ideas are actionable? In your research docs, you mentioned “The Five Circular Ways of Living”. Can you tell us more about it?
I had given a flash talk a long time ago called “Designed by Default”. In short, it was about… “things are designed by default in nature”. We as the human species, rewire stuff for some incentives which more often than not land up in a few tradeoffs. What are your thoughts on that? How do you look at the synthesis after this tradeoff?
Can you conclude by sharing any case study/winner or 2, which you loved the most in the last 5 years?
One surprise question, regarding hands-on. Does a designer need to be hands-on all his/her career? What are the advantages and disadvantages of being an individual contributor all throughout?
Reference reading
https://www.whatdesigncando.com/makeitcircularchallenge/
https://www.whatdesigncando.com/our-challenges/
https://makeitcircular.whatdesigncando.com
https://www.youtube.com/@WhatDesignCanDoVideo
https://www.instagram.com/whatdesigncando/
https://twitter.com/WhatDesignCanDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXhzxS6nqDU
http://quicksand.co.in
http://quicksand.co.in/unbox
https://www.whatdesigncando.com/project/living-coffin/
https://www.whatdesigncando.com/project/nyungu-afrika/
https://www.instagram.com/pepijnzurburg/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pepijn-zurburg-8207247/?originalSubdomain=nl
https://www.designpolitie.nl
https://www.whatdesigncando.com/about-wdcd/our-team/
Audiogyan is proud to partner with UnBox Cultural Futures Society and What Design Can do. What Design Can Do, is an international organization that seeks to accelerate the transition to a sustainable, fair, and just society using the power of design.
WhatDesignCanDo is launching the “Make it Circular Challenge” - a global design competition building a circular future in partnership with IKEA. This Challenge invites designers and creative entrepreneurs everywhere to submit design-driven climate innovations. The end goal? To show the world that a circular future is not only imaginable — but actionable. Winning projects will be propelled into 2023 with €10.000 in funding and a tailor-made development program. Submit your proposals online for free by 11 January 2023. Check out the design briefs and learn more about them on makeitcircular.whatdesigncando.com
Today we have Ayush Chauhan with us on Audiogyan. Ayush is the Managing Partner & Co-Founder of Quicksand Design Studio. He is a strong advocate of transformative roles through design within public policy, international development, social enterprise, and innovation, for which he was also granted the prestigious Yale World Fellowship in 2012. Ayush is also an avid triathlete! Quicksand Studio also hosts the UnBox Cultural Futures Society. It’s a platform exploring new narratives and building action at the intersection of disciplines, to reimagine India’s plural futures. As part of its agenda, UnBox Cultural Futures Society partners with What Design Can Do regularly and this year they bring, the ”Make it circular challenge”.
Questions
As we say, “India has many Indias.” We also do not have a literal translation of the word “Design” in India. We have kala, Karigari, and many more. How and where do you see Design in India?
Our education system is mainly inspired by the west which in the initial days (before personalization) was designed for profits and thereby had a lot of standardization. We have also recently seen that valley startups don’t find a PMF in India. What are your learnings/insights so far to reimagine India’s plural futures through UnBox Cultural Futures Society?
Historically (half a millennium ago) we as Indians were huge on up-cycling, reusing, and good design systems to make this circular thing work - Can we find learn from some insights?
What Design Can do has partnered with IKEA for this “make it circular challenge”. IKEA is one brand that has made genuine attempts to contextualize products and services as per markets, barring aesthetics. Can you talk a little bit about the fundamental aspects of circular design?
How did "UnBox Cultural Futures Society" and "What Design can do" connect? A little bit of the backstory? In which capacity do you guys collaborate
What are other initiatives undertaken by Unbox through the years? Collaborating with British Council, NID, Gothe Institute, and more.
In India, according to you are a few domains that need immediate design intervention. I am assuming it will be from MP Ranjan’s list but still, since you are a practicing professional, you might see things differently.
Can you conclude by sharing any case study/winner or 2, which you loved the most in the last 5 years from “What Design Can do” competitions?
Reference reading
https://www.whatdesigncando.com/makeitcircularchallenge/
https://www.whatdesigncando.com/our-challenges/
https://makeitcircular.whatdesigncando.com
https://www.youtube.com/@WhatDesignCanDoVideo
https://www.instagram.com/whatdesigncando/
https://twitter.com/WhatDesignCanDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXhzxS6nqDU
http://quicksand.co.in
http://quicksand.co.in/unbox
https://cleanenergychallenge.whatdesigncando.com/jury/ayush-chauhan/
Living Coffin
Nyungu Afrika
Today Audiogyan turns 6. Yes, It’s been amazing 6 years of documenting designers, poets, musicians, writers, thinkers, filmmakers, and more… We have reached the 259th episode. Well and to celebrate this special anniversary episode, we have Taufiq Qureshi with us, who can unarguably be called the King of rhythms. One of the most sought-after percussionists and the greatest thinkers in the world of music and world music. Apart from introducing us to Djembe and many other instruments, Taufiq sir has brought percussion instruments to center stage. Son of Ustad Alla Rakha and younger brother of Ustad Zakir Hussain, for Taufiq sir, music runs in the family. His music speaks for itself. His repertoire clearly shows his hard work, discipline, and passion for it. What we will try and document today is his philosophy about music and his thoughts on “rhythm”.
Questions
What does the word rhythm mean to you after 50 years? What makes the “sum” so divine?
I heard in Ashok Ranade’s talk on ethnomusicology that, “Aristotle specifically mentioned that don’t change the rhythm of the state. It creates anarchy”. What makes rhythm so fundamental?
In my interview with Sudhir Mainkar, he mentioned that music emerged from nature. Is it worth asking did shruti came first or taal?
For a percussionist, rhythm is everywhere. Are there areas where there is no rhythm or rhythm need not be seeked? I had heard in one of P.L. Deshpande’s speeches that a real musician should be able to hear shadja even in the ceiling fan. 🙂
You have spent a lot of time experimenting with a rhythm which dwells in the zone of abstract music. How do you make it relatable? Does the listener have to be aware or informed for it to comprehend? You are often quoted as knowing the pulse of the audience and performing accordingly.
It is said that instruments travel. Can you talk a little bit about instruments like djembe, duff, and bongos, in the context of instruments travel culturally?
Reference reading
http://www.taufiqqureshi.com/#
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taufiq_Qureshi
https://www.instagram.com/taufiqdjembe/?hl=en
https://m.facebook.com/people/Taufiq-Qureshi/100047213433179/
https://thefoundationroom.in/courses.php?source=TQ
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5pHGolVxp4QTvcuSnLCo2X
https://music.apple.com/in/artist/taufiq-qureshi/80201529
“One man is equivalent to all Creation. One man is a World in miniature.” ~ Albert Pike. Even in Indian spirituality, these words are commonly used and understood that the macrocosm is the reflection of our body which is the microcosm. Today we have a guest who deals with really intricate artwork which need a lot of focus, attention and precision. We are talking about miniature art. Srijan Jha joins us on Audiogyan. Srijan is a miniature artist, traveller, writers, storyteller and also engages in heritage restoration. He is from Bhopal and we’ll be talking all about miniature art.
Questions
What’s you definition of patience and art? How do you see them both in the kind of art you produce?
What’s miniature art? Why was it called limning? Can you share any brief history of it’s origin and travel? Why was it done, when was it first thought of etc…? Where do you see it in India?
Can you give us a peek into the mythology and folklore associated with this art form?
I started of with the microcosm and macrocosm. It seems like in miniature art you try fit in the universe. What excites you about this form? What’s so special about Miniature art? Why do people predominantly draw portraits? Even your work is mostly portraits? What is the creative satisfaction in doing it?
How mini can a miniature painting be? What are typically the subjects? How important is the subject? What surfaces are suitable for this form of art?
With digital age and technology, what are the new challenges for miniature artists (at least in your kind of work). Can artists zoom 20x and achieve the desired output? What is the future of miniature art?
Reference reading
https://www.instagram.com/jaadugarbysrijan/?hl=en
https://www.facebook.com/studiojaadugar
https://twitter.com/srijanjha8
https://www.artofwildlife.com/miniature_art_history.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_art
https://uncoverimages.com/2016/05/18/review-the-history-of-miniature-painting-in-my-name-is-red/
In episode # 244, Sumana Chandrashekar spoke about History of Ghatam. Immediately after the episode was released, Sangeeta Jawla connected and suggested that we could have done a pre-cursor to the Ghatam episode and document the “pot”. Well, better late then never. Today we have Sangeeta with us on Audiogyan to talk about the clay as a material and it’s history through stories and folklores.
Sangeeta is a research scholar, a practicing potter and a storyteller. She engraves the potters’ folk narratives (collected all across India) on the clay canvas. The visual depiction of the potter’s folk and real-life narratives help us understand the community’s folklore, social relations and material culture differently. Additionally, as a woman practitioner, she also focus on the question of women agency, since in most traditional potter communities women are not allowed to touch the wheel, even while they fully engage with all other aspects of pottery production, from preparing clay to decorating to selling. We’ll try and document few stories and a brief history of clay intersecting from mythology to ecology and more…
Questions
How & why did we discover pot? Or did we invent it? What were the initial forms made of?Clay? How did the pot look long time ago?
Can you talk a little bit about the narratives around the title of the potters. Who is/was a Prajapati or Khumbhar? How did these words come to be?
Pot seem to have come with us a long way. It has connected many things. Could you tell few important milestones in it’s journey so far? For eg: The tools, the donkey, the gender and caste aspect? Music and songs
Pot is used a lot in philosophy. Seems like some profound questions are either asked or answered through pot. In Vedanta, Clay and pot example is used many times. Can you talk a little bit about the process of making a pot and the analogies we have in our life? (Beating the clay, baking etc…)
What kind of pots were / are made and what are the stories inscribed on them? Any key iconic stories which are found?
Can you tell us about the project that you did - “Who is the pot?”
Reference Reading
https://www.instagram.com/wheeled_fortunes/
https://shura.shu.ac.uk/29521/10/Parkes-Nield-LocatingWomenInTheFolk(VoR).pdf
https://www.edexlive.com/news/2020/jan/27/what-do-this-aud-researcher-storyteller-and-ghatam-player-have-in-common-stories-about-pots-and-po-10030.html
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangeeta-jawla-74aa93237/?originalSubdomain=in
Today’s guest has been dealing with conflicts for some time now. Pleasure to have Avni Sethi with us on Audiogyan. Avni is a interdisciplinary practitioner with her primary concern lying between culture, memory, space and the body. She conceptualized and designed the Conflictorium about which we’ll be diving deep as a case study. Her interests lies in exploring the relationship between intimate audiences and the performing body.
Questions
What does conflict mean to you? Where do conflicts come from? Aren’t those inherent? Is there something called a s a good conflict to have?
What according to you is the relationship between the performer and the audience or a piece of art and viewer? The artist seems to be in a conflict and somehow tries to express it through work. What’s going on here according to you?
Where do main stream narratives come from? Do they emerge amongst us with time? Are they bottom up or top down or media propagated. How can one systematically study them or confront them?
What is conflitorium? How did it come to be?
How do you investigate conflict? Can you give any example(s)?
What does it mean to be comfortable with disagreements and conflict?
I think it’s a lot to do with building a common “vocabulary”. People think in binaries. How do you build these shades to grey - if you can explain with any example(s)? (For eg: how would say like a “memory tree” will not be perceived as a propaganda?)
It’s said that “the world is how you see it”. People have short term memories and choose to move on with just roti, kapda and makaan. Why introduce art and culture or as you call is “shiksha” in it?
Can you share a few community-led solutions to conflict in your practice so far? How have people reacted to very counter intuitive narratives which apparently look different.
Peace is generally an outcome of conflict, even as per the Buddha. While Conflictorium engages in dialogue and making sensitive by “talking”. How do you see future of it? What ways peace can manifest? Is there a timeline?
Reference reading
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https://www.ted.com/talks/avni_sethi_is_the_celebration_of_differences_possible
https://azimpremjifoundation.org/content/love-sites-contested-narratives
https://sites.libsyn.com/318962/on-building-a-museum-of-conflict-avni-sethi
https://vimeo.com/641271034
https://blogs.newschool.edu/news/2021/10/the-vera-list-centers-jane-lombard-prize-winner-avni-sethi-debuts-show-at-aronson-galleries/
https://abhivyaktiart.org/beta/en/artists/avni-sethi/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/avni-sethi-372b15a2/?originalSubdomain=in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQsVBMFDzn4
https://khojstudios.org/person/avni-sethi/
https://www.conflictorium.org/meet-our-team/
https://www.instagram.com/avnisethi/?hl=en
V. Ravichandar joins us on Audiogyan. Ravi is an Honorary Director at the Bangalore International Centre. He is also the Honorary Consul for Republic of Slovenia in Bengaluru. His entrepreneurial stint was around strategy and marketing consulting through his firm Feedback Consulting. He has worked voluntarily with State and Local governments as well as civil society to improve cities. This was through the Bangalore Agenda Task Force, JN-NURM, and the City Connect platforms.
Apart from BIC, Ravi also helps run the annual Bangalore Literature Festival as part of his efforts to improve public spaces. Today we’ll be talking about his pro bono work since 2000 with the city's hard and soft infrastructure. Thank you Ravi for giving your time and it’s a real honour to have you on Audiogyan.
Questions
Today we are focusing on redesigning cities using Bengaluru as a peg. In your experience how do we reimagine a city that is bursting at the seams and having a host of problems? As Pranay Kotasthane from Puliya Baazi says, Over population is not the problem but under governance is… Let us take the recent flooding as an example of the problems
Why did it happen and how do we prevent future floods?
Can we really redesign public spaces given their dynamic and organic nature? What would be the few axes on which this can be thought?
You have engaged with multiple stakeholders involving Sarkar, Samaaj, and Bazaar in the cityscape. What are your key learnings as we reimagine the future?
Reference links
https://audiogyan.com/2020/12/16/dhawal-ashar/
https://audiogyan.com/2022/05/11/designing-boundaries/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_nerclv53s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o5XErwvmwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlvw_gB9Sm8
https://feedbackconsulting.com/about/v-ravichandar/
https://successfulsocieties.princeton.edu/interviews/v-ravichandar
https://www.livemint.com/Sundayapp/Npg8vLHRQvXEigztvq4JkI/I-would-set-up-decentralized-City-Connect-platforms-across.html
https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/bic-hubba-to-celebrate-city-ngos/article65084889.ece
https://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/the-new-bangalore-international-centre-complex-is-a-free-space/article26364664.ece
https://successfulsocieties.princeton.edu/sites/successfulsocieties/files/interviews/transcripts/3533/v._ravichandar.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8oSescM4GQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWK1Uzcp0k4
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ravichandar-v-a97a65/
https://www.samaajsarkaarbazaar.in/
Shweta Malhotra is a Graphic Designer based in Bombay. After graduating in Applied Arts from Sophia Polytechnic (Bombay) in 2004, she started out as an Art Director with advertising agencies like McCann Erickson, Contract Advertising and Ogilvy. In Feb 2008, after a short stint at Fabrica, she decided to pursue a career in Graphic Design and has since worked with firms like Grandmother India and Rediffusion Y&R Design. On a project basis, she's also worked with Itu Chaudhuri Design and Illum Design.
We will start with this one line which I found in most of your articles and interviews online. "My overall design aesthetic is minimal, bold and graphic, a response to the maximalist visual language prevalent in India.” - Can you tell in detail what do u mean by that? What have been your observations when you say, the maximalist visual language prevalent in India?
Why do you define your work to be minimal? Your initial work was fashion-focussed, while fashion doesn’t seem not very minimal in a philosophical sense?
What have been your observations w.r.t the contemporary art scene in India? Is contemporary word getting synonymous with minimalism due to our global exposure?
What is your process of approaching an artwork? Minimalism is all about eliminating while you are creating something new out from your observations and what you consume? Does a blank canvas intimidate you especially when u approach with a minimalistic mindset?
Do you think minimalism restrict the color palette or choose of images or fonts? What would be one take away who wish to explore this form in their work?
Mohi Baha'ud-din Dagar is a Rudra Veena Player. A sangeet natak academy award winner in 2012 and a 20th generation of Dagar lineage, referring to Swami Haridas Dagur of the 13th century.
Just to set context, there are almost 11 types of Veena. It is said that Rudra Veena is king of Instruments and all string instruments are shaped from it. Can you share any of it’s mythological and historical aspect?
I was going through your website which mentions, stage and mic requirements for a small baithak to a large concert. Can you tell demands of this instrument and why?
Asad Ali Khan once said, "Kalakar isse nahi bajata, ye kalakar se bajwata hai” - Can you tell us what is so rahasyamay about this Rudra Veena?
Can you tell us challenges of making and playing a Veena. It takes 6 to 7 months to make a Veena. It has challenges since it’s made as per the size of there person. Also it’s tuning before playing is a big task in itself. In fact in one of your interviews, you have said, Veena is a like and elephant. What is so intense about it?
What is that silence playing even after plucking of the strings have stopped? It is very peculiar to string instruments as oppose to percussion or wind instruments.
Rudra Veena has been with us since Rigveda and Samaveda, or lets call it Satya-yuga. What is the long term future of Veena (Rudra) in Kali-yuga ?
Hello https://castbox.fm/va/4194176
A lively concise interview on the beauty of industrial design,It's role in society, implications on human emotions and the creating responsible design in the age of environmental, political and social challenges.
nice pod cast
more architecture talks would be nice
This is my first time in audiogyan. As an architect, I love the topics covered. Also, this is the first podcast where the anchor is an "active" listener. Keep up the good work.
I think you should record the intro again if you mess up so much.
I really appreciate your episodes. Good job!
can't wait for the next episode. really insightful conversation and I am really looking forward for the books.
Great effort. Some suggestions - Let the guests speak freely. avoid interrupting them - Ask open ended questions i.e. less of yes/no questions - Do not lead. let the guests speak their mind. it may or may not align with your previously held beliefs. - Do not try and corroborate ideas across different interviews. difference of opinions between guests is what let's us see the world from multiple viewpoints. - Have a strategy for the conversation. what do you want the listeners to get out of the podcast? e.g. are you introducing them to the guest or are you introducing the field that they work in? - Please invest in better recording equipment, also some investment in sound processing software. I greatly appreciate the hardwork that went into creating this unique podcast. keep it up. best wishes :)
khup sundar 😊 fakt madhe madhe english bolaycha kami kela tr bara hoil
Just try to interrupt the speakers a little less.. With your umms.. And aahh.. And okss..
Was waiting for Podcasts in Indian context and Indian design community.Good to see that
waoooww really appreciate your time and effort s thank you
nice