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Kevin Shtofman is the Global Head of Alliances and Corporate Development at Cherre, a real estate data platform powering over $3.3 trillion in AUM. With 20+ years of experience across real estate, finance, and consulting, Kevin leads global initiatives to integrate and contextualize data from systems, third parties, and JV partners, helping investors, operators, and asset managers make smarter decisions. At Cherre, he also oversees strategic partnerships, global expansion, and the innovation roadmap. Prior to joining Cherre, Kevin held leadership roles across the industry, including Chief Operating Officer at NavigatorCRE, and Global Real Estate Technology Strategy Lead at Deloitte, where he advised clients on emerging technologies like AI, automation, and blockchain. A recognized voice in real estate innovation, Kevin brings two decades of experience bridging data, operations, and technology across global real estate markets. Outside of work, Kevin is a golf enthusiast, occasional Ironman, and proud father of three daughters.(02:05) - Kevin's Background(05:19) - Challenges in Real Estate Data Management(06:52) - Cherre’s Approach to Data Integration(13:48) - Evolution of Cherre’s Platform(21:41) - Client Success Stories(24:58) - Future of Real Estate and AI(25:23) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass(29:58) - Introducing Cherre AI Agent Marketplace(33:58) - AI Use Cases(40:06) - The Future of Real Estate Data(42:29) - Affordable Housing and Investment(47:37) - Collaboration Superpower: William Levitt (Wiki) & Larry Brown (Wiki)💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Cherre➡️ Kevin Shtofman on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Sharon Ayalon is the co-founder and CEO of UrbanMix, a next-gen platform using AI and 3D to streamline real estate operations. An architect by training, she previously taught at Columbia GSAPP and led advanced housing simulations at Cornell Tech. Sharon pioneered Roosevelt Island’s Digital Twin and XR transit experience. Her Ph.D. was awarded the President of Israel’s Grant for Scientific Excellence. This is episode was recorded live at Blueprint Vegas 2025. Sharon has been helping shape Gowanus Wharf, a groundbreaking Brooklyn development led by Charney Companies turning a former Superfund site into over 1,000 apartments, parks, and public waterfront. It's one of the most ambitious examples of how environmental cleanup, zoning reform, and innovative tools can unlock transformative urban development.💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit UrbanMix➡️ Sharon Yavo Ayalon on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

This week, we're introducing Tangent listeners to another podcast in the commercial real estate ecosystem: In The Loop from LoopNet. How can workplaces endure ecologically, financially, and socially?In this episode of In the Loop, Jordan Goldstein, co-CEO of Gensler, explores the future of sustainable and resilient office design. From global design trends and innovative materials to the role of AI in commercial real estate, Jordan shares how the industry is rethinking sustainability. You’ll learn why repositioning existing buildings matters, how policy and incentives drive real change, and what it takes to create workplaces built for tomorrow.In the Loop is LoopNet’s commercial real estate podcast highlighting the people, ideas, and innovations shaping the future of work. For bonus video content, check out our YouTube channel.Timestamps00:00 - Welcome to the show and introduction of In The Loop podcast drop 01:01 - Phil Hazelhurst welcomes guest Jordan Goldstein, Co-CEO of Gensler 03:34 - How sustainability, resiliency, and “flight to quality” are reshaping office real estate 06:57 - The rise of AI in architecture & how Gensler uses tech to design smarter, lower-carbon spaces 13:38 - Materials makeover: mass timber, low-carbon concrete, and the future of building systems 19:37 - Global perspectives and the power of repositioning old buildings instead of starting new 26:24 - Gensler’s own electrified office and how the firm lives its sustainability mission in practice 37:42 - Final thoughts: Why design is an act of optimism and where sustainable real estate goes next40:19 - Edward recaps conversationLinks & references: • View spaces designed by Gensler • Ready to find your next sustainable commercial space? Start your search• Learn more about this episode• Learn more about Commercial Real Estate"

Ryan Sawchuk is the VP of Product at Crexi, where he leads cross-functional teams to build advanced, data-rich tools aimed at transforming the commercial real estate workflow. With more than 15 years in product leadership, Ryan specializes in crafting AI-enabled, scalable solutions that boost transaction velocity, improve user experience, and integrate seamlessly into CRE operations. Prior to Crexi, Ryan held senior product roles at Indeed, Procore, and LinkedIn, shaping core features and driving growth in high-scale tech environments. He earned his education from Princeton University, which laid the foundation for his data-driven, user-first product philosophy. At Crexi, Ryan’s vision is to bridge the gap between real estate professionals and cutting-edge technology, making complex CRE data more accessible, actionable, and efficient. This is episode was recorded live at Blueprint Vegas 2025.💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Crexi➡️ Ryan Sawchuk on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Colton Pace is a founder and currently the CEO of Ownwell, a Proptech company dedicated to democratizing access to real estate expertise and reducing the hidden costs of homeownership. Under his leadership, Ownwell helps homeowners and property owners identify and appeal overvalued property taxes, reduce insurance and utility costs, and manage other home‑related expenses through data, automation, and local expert teams. Before founding Ownwell, Colton served as an investor, asset manager, and venture capitalist, helping manage billions of dollars across various asset classes. He was part of funds that made early investments in companies such as Uber, Spotify, Redfin, Snowflake, UiPath, Zuora, and Grab. (01:05) - VC to PropTech Founder(03:10) - $797B Property Tax Problem(04:48) - Ownwell Traction: 700K+ Homes and SMB/CRE(06:18) - AI Plus 80 Consultants: How Appeals Get Done(08:50) - Success Rates and Savings: Residential vs Commercial(11:27) - Portfolio Case Study: 124 SFR Properties in Texas(13:45) - Valuation Methods and Local Differences(16:13) - Market Size: $50 to 60B Opportunity(17:29) - Feature: CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. (19:02) - Beyond Taxes: Insurance, Loans, Utilities, Concierge (21:30) - Building Trust with Homeowners and CRE Owners (24:03) - Advice for PropTech Founders Selling into Real Estate (26:49) - Collaboration Superpower: Matthew McConaughey💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Ownwell➡️ Colton Pace on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest real estate meetings program. Qualified real estate professionals get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. Must own or manage 1K+ resi units, or 1M SF of CRE to qualify.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Dustin Lacey is the CTO at Mark-Taylor, the leading developer, owner, and investment manager of luxury multifamily communities in Arizona and Nevada, with over 135 Class A Multifamily properties. He leads the firm’s tech evolution, powering the centralization of operations. Under his leadership, Mark‑Taylor has implemented innovative smart‑home integrations, centralized leasing and maintenance teams, and deployed unified resident platforms that enhance efficiency and elevate the resident experience. With a diverse background in irrigation, industrial manufacturing, and brand and marketing strategy, Dustin brings his unique experience into high-tech manufacturing from his tenure at TSMC, where he honed his skills in precision, process excellence, and product innovation.(01:36) - From Brand Strategy to Tech Leadership: Building Digital DNA in Real Estate(02:12) - Enterprise Proptech Success Story: Scaling a Multifamily Management Platform(05:16) - Class A Portfolio Strategy: Maximizing Asset Performance Through Tech(06:50) - Tech Stack Evolution: From AWS Integration to Custom CRM Development(10:29) - ROI Deep Dive: Making the Business Case for Custom Proptech Solutions(15:53) - Tech-Enabled Operations: Achieving Sub-2-Hour Response Times at Scale(20:12) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: Friends of Tangent receive $300 off the All Access pass. The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on Sep. 16th-18th, 2025. (21:22) - Go-to-Market Excellence: Standing Out in the Competitive Proptech Landscape(31:41) - Risk Management Innovation: Tech Solutions for Modern Property Operations(38:30) - Founder's Playbook: Key Insights for Proptech Startups Targeting Enterprise Clients💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Mark-Taylor➡️ Dustin Lacey on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Liz Hart is President of Leasing for Newmark’s operating businesses in the U.S. and Canada, where she drives the strategy of the firm’s leasing platform, leads talent development and recruitment, and helps integrate technology to deliver better outcomes for clients. She also serves on Newmark’s Executive Committee, reporting directly to CEO Barry Gosin. With more than 20 years at Newmark, Liz has completed close to 35M square feet of transactions valued at over $4.2 billion. She has consistently ranked among the firm’s top producers and was a regular Top Five Producer in Newmark’s San Francisco office. Her experience spans advising technology companies from startups to Fortune 50 giants, repositioning large-scale developments that have reshaped skylines, and leading Newmark’s Technology & Innovation Practice Group to help landlords and tenants in the TAMI/TMT sectors create spaces that attract and retain talent.(01:16) - State of the Office Market: Shrinking Supply & Turning Point(05:05) - How to Approach Office Leasing in 2025(13:45) - Talent, Culture & Competitive Advantage(15:49) - Data-Driven Leasing & Advisory: Automation vs. Augmentation(18:07) - Feature: CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs.(19:39) - Brand Building in Commercial Real Estate(24:32) - Flex Space vs. Traditional Leasing (27:00) - End-to-End Platform: Evolving the Leasing Function(29:02) - In-House vs. Outsourcing Tech & Data(29:41) - Data Sharing & Antitrust: The RealPage Settlement(31:31) - Collaboration Superpower: Steve Jobs💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Newmark➡️ Liz Hart on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest real estate meetings program. Qualified real estate professionals get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. Must own or manage 1K+ resi units, or 1M SF of CRE to qualify.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Rishard Rameez is the Co‑Founder and CEO of Zown, an AI‑powered real estate platform that makes homeownership more accessible and affordable. Zown was born from a viral Reddit post where Rishard shared his frustration over paying over $70K in real estate commissions. The outpouring of support inspired him to flip the model: instead of paying big commissions, Zown gives buyers significant upfront cash to help with their down payment and closing costs, while offering sellers flat fees. This customer‑first model has driven rapid growth, with Zown processing over $300 million in transactions and becoming Canada’s fastest‑growing real estate brokerage. The platform has recently launched in California and continues expanding across North America. Rishard sparked a movement by transforming personal pain into an industry‑changing solution.(02:17) - The Broken Home Buying Process(03:02) - It All Started with a Viral Reddit Post (05:39) - Early Pivot from Flat Fee Model(14:59) - Unbundling Real Estate Services(18:06) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on Sep. 16th-18th, 2025.(19:00) - Feature: Meow - Business banking, with interest: Unlock a high-yield business checking account that pays up to 3.52%.(20:31) - Zone's Growth Journey(28:47) - Customer Acquisition Strategy(30:36) - Recent Seed Round(32:42) - Why Own vs. Rent a Home(34:52) - Collaboration Superpower: Muhammad and Jesus Christ💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Zown➡️ Rishard Rameez on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass ➡️ Meow - Business banking, with interest: Unlock a high-yield business checking account that pays up to 3.52%.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Nathan Herz is the Co‑Founder and COO of Paraspot AI, a New York‑based AI company backed by RE Angels, ffVC, 97212 Ventures, SaaS Ventures & Aroundtown that applies advanced computer vision to automate property inspections for Single-family, Multifamily, Hospitality, and Logistics operators. Paraspot’s platform reduces inspection costs and time, empowering operators to manage assets efficiently remotely. Since co-founding the company in 2020, Nathan has been instrumental in scaling operations, leading sales strategy, and building key client relationships.(01:28) - Nathan's Real Estate Journey & Birth of Paraspot(06:15) - Challenges & Innovations in Property Inspections(10:17) - AI-Powered Inspections(18:07) - Latest Property Management Regulation in CA & NY(21:05) - Feature: CREtech - Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest Real Estate Meetings program. Qualified Real Estate pros get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs.(22:38) - Founder Timing & Persistence(25:58) - New Audio Feature for Inspections(28:32) - Single Family vs. Multifamily Market Fit(37:31) - New Partnership Announcement with DepositCloud(39:52) - Collaboration Superpower: Nathan's grandpa & Ryan Serhant💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Paraspot➡️ Nathan Herz on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ CREtech: Join CREtech New York 2025 on Oct 21-22 for the largest real estate meetings program. Qualified real estate professionals get free full event pass plus up to $800 in travel and hotel costs. Must own or manage 1K+ resi units, or 1M SF of CRE to qualify.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Aaron Tartakovsky is the Co-Founder and CEO of Epic Cleantec, a leading startup revolutionizing onsite water reuse and sustainability in the built environment. His journey blends bold innovation with a legacy of science and policy. Raised by a Soviet-trained rocket scientist father, Aaron grew up with cutting-edge engineering in the household. Aaron went on to shape federal policy before co-founding Epic Cleantec, initially inspired by tackling a lighter challenge: after his co-founder received a ticket for not clearing up his dog’s poop, they imagined a device to disintegrate waste. That idea evolved, and work with the Gates Foundation’s Reinvent the Toilet Challenge led to Epic’s current mission. Today, Aaron leads Epic Cleantec to deploy water reuse systems in buildings, turning wastewater into reusable water, reducing costs, carbon, and reliance on aging infrastructure. Their clients include Salesforce Tower in San Francisco and other high-profile developments committed to water resilience and sustainability. He’s a vocal advocate for blending smart regulation, government partnerships, and technology to drive global water resilience.(01:57) - Aaron's Journey to Epic Cleantec(05:51) - How Epic Cleantec Revolutionizes Water Recycling for Buildings(08:36) - The Gates Foundation & Public Reception(14:10) - Real Estate's Water Infrastructure Challenges(18:15) - Scaling Epic Cleantec(21:26) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on Sep. 16th-18th, 2025.(28:39) - Navigating Regulations and Politics(36:29) Collaboration Superpower: Aaron's grandfather💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Epic Cleantec➡️ Aaron Tartakovsky on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

David Esber is the Co-Founder and Chief Commercial Officer of Enviz, a platform revolutionizing how unbuilt properties are designed, marketed, and sold. Frustrated by the limitations of blueprints and static renders, David launched Enviz in 2019 to enable immersive, 1:1 virtual and augmented reality walkthroughs that bring unbuilt spaces to life. Since then, Enviz has helped thousands of users, architects, developers, and homebuilders visualize, refine, and sell their projects with greater impact, saving time, reducing errors, and enhancing customer engagement. At Enviz, David leads sales, marketing, and operations, driving the company’s mission to empower 3D designers and shape the future of spatial visualization.(01:42) – Understanding VR, AR, ER / MR(02:51) – The Journey of Enviz(04:28) – Real-Time 3D Visualization(09:14) – The Future of AR(20:05) – Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on Sep. 16th-18th, 2025.(20:58) – Challenges & Costs(22:30) – Trust in Pre-Development Sales (26:33) – Targeting Architecture Firms & Large Clients (28:54) – Sales Cycles & Client Criteria(33:13) – Competition landscape & moats (39:45) – Collaboration Superpower: David's dad & Jaron Lanier (VR founder, Wiki)💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Enviz➡️ David Esber on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Christelle Rohaut is the Founder and CEO of Codi (backed by a16z), where she's building the walk-to-work revolution. Codi offers turnkey, private office spaces with the most flexible terms on the market. In a matter of days, any company can find a space for their team, with full and part-time options, outsourced office management, and flexible leases. Codi has also created a Relief Fund to help businesses impacted by WeWork's struggles. Christelle is an Urban Planner who aspires to achieve positive social and natural impacts for happier livelihoods. She seeks to innovatively rethink urban systems to help cities be a happier place for all.(2:11) - State of Office market(13:58) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(15:10) - What's wrong with traditional Coworking(21:43) - Types of buildings partnering with Codi(23:56) - Codi's WeWon't marketing campaign(29:34) - Collaboration Superpower: Brian Chesky (Airbnb CEO & Co-founder) & Conchita Martinez (Spanish tennis champion & coach)💚 Learn more:➡️ Codi's site➡️ Christelle Rohaut on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Katharine Lau is the CEO and Co-founder of Stuf, a self storage startup delivering modern, tech-enabled storage to consumers and businesses. Stuf partners with real estate owners to monetize basements, garages, and other spaces in commercial buildings as storage, creating new cash flow opportunities for landlords while providing neighborhoods with a new amenity. Stuf was recognized by Fast Company as one of The World’s Most Innovative Companies in 2022. Previously, Kat led the supply-side business of Industrious, the nation's leading premium workplace and coworking provider, where she pioneered an industry shift to asset- and liability-light agreements with property owners.(1:42) - Stuf origin story(5:46) - Target markets and type of buildings suited for conversions(10:00) - Business model & scaling CRE conversions(11:32) - Stuf's tech stack(15:02) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(16:14) - Industrious transition from asset-heavy to asset-light(20:44) - WeWork's tumultuous office lease renegotiations(22:34) - Future of office uses(25:44) - Office-to-art space conversion(27:22) - Collaboration Superpower: Marie Kondo💚 Learn more:➡️ Stuf's site➡️ Katharine Lau on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Ryan Simonetti is the CEO and co-founder of Convene, a global hospitality company that owns and manages premium Meeting, Event & Workplace locations around the world. His unique expertise in real estate acquisitions, development, and finance has helped catapult Convene to become a pioneer in the commercial real estate industry. Ryan is also the co-founder & Chairman of Ease Capital, a digital-first commercial lending platform that combines data, technology & world-class customer support to streamline the multifamily financing process from end-to-end. Ryan has been recognized for his transformative achievements on Commercial Observer’s inaugural Power PropTech List, Real Estate Forum’s 50 Under 40 list, Inc. Magazine’s '30 Under 30', a list of America’s Most Promising Young Entrepreneurs; was named 'Top Entrepreneur' by Crain’s New York, and was a finalist in Ernst & Young’s Entrepreneur of the Year® New York Awards. (3:00) - WeWork's bankruptcy impact on the Office industry(8:17) - Tech vs Real Estate valuations(11:13) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley (site)(12:26) - Office Markets comparison(16:44) - Convene's performance & KPI's(18:07) - Innovative experience management(25:11) - Office AR & VR adoption(29:07) - Ease Capital - tech-enabled Multifamily lender(31:52) - Collaboration Superpower: Michael Jordan💚 Learn more:➡️ Convene's site➡️ Ease Capital's site➡️ Ryan Simonetti on LinkedIn➡️ Ryan Simonetti on X💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Eliot Brown is the co-author of The Cult of We (with Maureen Farrell), a WSJ best-selling book, and winner of the Financial Times, Fortune, and NPR Best Book of the Year Awards. Eliot covers startups and venture capital for The Wall Street Journal in London. He joined the Journal in 2010, when he was hired to cover commercial real estate in the wake of the financial crisis. He previously worked at the New York Observer, where he covered economic development and local politics.(2:10) - From The Cult of We to WeCrashed(3:42) - Importance of the book and it's lessons(6:18) - WeWork's board of directors & enablers(8:02) - Valuations: Real Estate vs. Tech(14:20) - HostAI - (site) AI-powered guest messaging & Airbnb rental software(16:23) - Where did it all go down hill for Adam's WeWork(19:15) - WeWork's most impactful tricks(24:16) - Cult of the Founder & power of storytelling(40:14) - WeWork's tech acquisitions(43:29) - Private vs. Public market frenzy💚 Learn more:➡️ The Cult of We's site➡️ Eliot Brown on X➡️ Get The Cult of We book on Amazon➡️ Get The Cult of We book on Bookshop💚 Feature:➡️ HostAI's site - AI-powered guest messaging for Airbnb hosts & boutique hotels 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Groundfloor is a private real estate lending marketplace open to non-accredited investors. Groundfloor opens the door to short-term, high-yield returns backed by real estate. Their platform brings together individual investors looking for short-term lending investments and borrowers looking for short-term financing for their specific real estate projects. Borrowers get access to more flexible, faster and cheaper capital than a traditional bank or a hard-money lender. Investors get access to short-term, high-yield investments. Groundfloor earned a historic qualification by the SEC in August 2015 to sell private real estate debt investments to non-accredited investors.💚 Learn more:➡️ Groundfloor's site➡️ Nick Bhargava on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on Twitter➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Remen Okoruwa is product-minded leader who's working to unlock data for the property management industry. Remen and his co-founders met while they were working at Hubspot, and are now bringing their deep expertise about integrations to streamline Multifamily property management operations for all stakeholders. Propify (YC W23) recently raised $3.3M from VC firm Prudence, with additional funding from Fifth Wall, RXR, PropTech Angel Group, and HubSpot co-founder Dharmesh Shah. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series, the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.(0:20) - Propify's origin story(1:34) - Benefits for Multifamily Proptech companies(2:55) - Translating data into insights & action(3:58) - Multifamily use cases(6:01) - Propify's unique business model(7:56) - Hubspot lessons for Proptech(9:21) - Where will Propify be in the next 12-24 months(10:16) - Key growth metrics💚 Learn more:➡️ Propify's site➡️ Remen Okoruwa on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Aleksandr Gampel co-founded Cuby Technologies with Aleh Kandrashou in 2021 to tackle the construction labor shortage. After 200,000 engineering hours, Cuby is setting the stage to commercialize hundreds of mobile micro-factories (MMF's) on or near construction sites to enable developers, general contractors and local partners to build better buildings faster, more affordably with less labor. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series. Blueprint is the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.💚 Learn more:➡️ Cuby's site➡️ Aleksandr Gampel on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

John Rogers is the Chief Innovation Officer at CoreLogic, leading R&D on the biggest asset class in the world - the US Real Estate Economy, and driving new product development to market via an iconic property & location intelligence platform called Discovery. This platform allows clients that rely on data, insights, models and answers to drive growth or mitigate risk on their book of business. John asserts he's been fortunate to have worked in all 4 corners of the world leading large transformation projects in finance, retail, pharmaceuticals, logistics and airlines, including at IBM and British Airways. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series. Blueprint is the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.(0:34) - Powering US Real Estate market(1:30) - Climate Risk Analytics for Housing ecosystem(4:28) - Truth data set(5:56) - Streamlining affordable housing development & collaboration(8:10) - Collaboration Superpower: Dr. Katherine Calvin at Chief Scientist at NASA💚 Learn more:➡️ CoreLogic's site➡️ John Rogers on LinkedIn💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Salman Ahmad is the CEO and Co-founder of a16z-backed Mosaic, a construction technology company that builds software that makes homebuilding more scalable and efficient. Mosaic was founded in 2017 by Salman and Sep Kamvar, whom were two computer scientists working together at MIT and Stanford developing machine learning algorithms applied in the real world. Together, they developed a bold vision for the home building industry: construction as code. Mosaic uses their software themselves to manage construction on behalf of homebuilders, enabling them to build more homes. Salman has 20 technical publications and patents in the areas of software systems, programming languages, machine learning, human-computer interaction, and sensor hardware. He also worked with Microsoft developing virtualized datacenter solutions.  (3:33) - Mosaic's & Salman's origin story(8:35) - Feature: Blueprint Vegas 2024 - Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent(9:30) - Housing construction pain points(12:40) - Construction productivity issues(15:12) - Mosaic's business model (23:26) - Aligning Contech with VC timelines & incentives(30:37) - Mosaic's biggest challenges(35:26) - Macro & micro factors of construction labor shortage (43:19) - Collaboration Superpower: Christopher Alexander (Co-author of A Pattern Language)💚 Learn more:➡️ Mosaic's site➡️ Salman Ahmad on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint Vegas 2024 - Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.