Finding God in Our Pain

Summary: *The conversation discusses the power and simplicity of gratitude as a spiritual discipline. *Gratitude is seen as a choice and a discipline that can lead to transformation and intimacy with God. *Practicing gratitude can rewire the brain's neural network to focus more on positive aspects. *Simple daily practices, such as acknowledging things to be grateful for, can cultivate gratitude. *Gratitude can combat negative emotions like fear and anxiety, promoting peace. *Engaging with biblical teachings, like Philippians 4:8, can help maintain a posture of gratitude. *The discussion emphasizes the importance of intimacy with God for true gratitude and compassion. *Gratitude and love are linked, with love being viewed as faith in action and compassion. *Practicing gratitude can lead to improvements in one's life, including emotional and spiritual growth. *Gratitude is portrayed as a gift from God, intended to be shared with others as an overflow of His love. Podcast Intro: Gratitude is an ever-present concept in our lives, yet we often underestimate its power to transform our perspectives and experiences. The episode today was a great conversation with author, podcast host and speaker, Amanda Schaefer. She shared her insights on how the simplicity of gratitude can be more profound than we imagine, offering a window into a value system that transcends our earthly understanding. Gratitude, she explains, is not a trait some are simply born with, but a discipline and a choice that anyone can learn and embrace. It is an attitude that, when practiced intentionally, can lead to a profound transformation in one's spiritual and emotional life. Amanda discovered gratitude is part of our neural pathway that, once traveled repeatedly, becomes a well-worn trail in our minds. This practice of choosing to focus on the positive aspects of life, even amid challenges, reaps, peace, joy, and blessings.  By acknowledging the beauty and goodness around us, we can cultivate a mindset that anticipates good things and, in turn, experiences more of it. This is not to say that gratitude is a natural inclination for everyone; it requires conscious effort and practice. Amanda emphasizes that the discipline of gratitude is something that has to be developed, much like any other skill or habit. Once the habit is formed, you will naturally perceive and notice countless things to be thankful for. The practice of gratitude is not complicated. Amanda recounts how she began a simple morning routine of expressing gratitude before her feet even touched the ground. By starting the day with a focus on the goodness of God, she found that it set a positive tone for the rest of her day. When one is grateful, feelings of fear and anxiety are replaced with peace and joy, as gratitude and fear cannot coexist. Moreover, Amanda highlights the biblical perspective on gratitude. We talked about Philippians 4:8, which encourages believers to focus on what is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, and admirable. This verse encapsulates a heart posture of gratitude, guiding individuals to meditate on the good and praiseworthy things in life. In doing so, one aligns closer with a life of peace and intimacy with God. The act of focusing on gratitude is not just a spiritual exercise but a transformative experience that can renew the mind and spirit. Throughout this conversation Amanda reminds us, this practice of gratitude is within everyone's reach and can bring about profound personal and spiritual growth and create deeper intimacy with Christ. Let’s listen in and be encouraged today! Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Other Related Podcast and/or Blog: Blog - Hallelujah! https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/11/02/hallelujah/ Podcast: Donna Renay Patrick - When Life Doesn’t Go As Planned: https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/11/10/donna-patrick/ Connect with Amanda: Website: www.acupofgratitude.org IG: www.instagram.com/acupof_gratitude FB: www.facebook.com/amanda.f.schaefer Bio: Amanda Schaefer is a podcast host, author, and speaker. She carries with her the goodness of looking through a lens of gratitude. The “A Cup of Gratitude” podcast is global, reaching over 111 countries and 3000 cities. As a speaker, Amanda teaches the Bible while challenging audiences to live the way God intends. She has a way of making scripture come alive through everyday examples. Amanda’s books include, “Crumbled, A Place for Broken People” and “Daily “Instaration.” She is a contributing author of “Life Changing Stories and the newly released books, “One Chance, One Dance, Don’t Miss the Moments in Your Life,” and “Courageous Voices Unlocked.” Her books are down to earth and packed with Biblical truth. Amanda has also written articles for “The Brave Women Series,” “The Uncommon Normal Gratitude Series,” “The Love Offering,” “The Warrior Women Series,” “Butterfly Living, “The Empty Nest Mom Series,” and “The Season Series.” She has a new collaborative book project due to be released this December and is under contract to write a new manuscript slated to be released in February 2025.

SUMMARY: - “Hurting people hurt people—but narcissists mean to. The higher up the spectrum, the more deliberate and sadistic it becomes.” - “A normal person can self-reflect and repair. A narcissist can’t or won’t—self-reflection feels like death to them.” - “You didn’t cause this, and you can’t fix it. It’s not your fault.” - “As darkness rises, so does the glory of God. What the enemy meant for evil, God can turn for good.” - “If you move slowly and keep physical/emotional boundaries while dating, a narcissist will often disqualify himself.” Annette’s 4-category spectrum - Category 1: “Normal” human flaws—can be selfish or insensitive at times, but can self-reflect, repent, repair, and grow. - Category 2: Emotionally immature; hurtful without calculated malice. Constant defensiveness, blame-shifting, meltdowns when confronted. Change is unlikely; aim is reducing chaos and managing wisely if you choose to stay. - Category 3: Calculated and conniving. Love-bombing, data-mining your hopes/fears to weaponize later. Public charm/private cruelty. Dangerous in church/community settings. You won’t resolve this. - Category 4: Sociopathic/psychopathic traits. Amplified cruelty and real danger. Divorce triggers the “monster.” Requires safety planning, documentation, and expert help. Dating red flags and protection - Love-bombing: intense pursuit, “soulmate” language, over-the-top gestures, fast-moving timeline. - Boundary testing: pushes past your limits; discomfort rises quickly. - Inconsistencies and subtle cruelty: backhanded comments, smirks at tears or grief, delight in your pain. - How to protect: move slowly, keep physical/emotional boundaries early, listen to the Holy Spirit and your discomfort, look for patterns (not isolated incidents), and let time test character. If you stay (Category 2 dynamics) - Goal: not fixing him, but wisely reducing chaos and preserving your well-being and the household’s stability. - Tactics: reframe requests in terms of what benefits him; avoid head-on confrontation; build your life outside the relationship (calling, ministry, education, friendships). - Support: grief the loss of the dream; get equipped; find a small, trusted peer group who truly understands narcissistic abuse. If you’re considering leaving (especially 3–4) - Safety first: if there’s a risk of harm, have a go-bag for you/kids/pets and get out. - Prepare: document everything; expect financial sabotage; avoid using the term “narcissist” in court unless there’s a diagnosis. - Kids: courts may be vulnerable to “parental alienation” claims; consider a High-Conflict Divorce Coach to reduce legal costs and navigate strategy. - Church/community: narcissists often “borrow” your credibility and pre-poison relationships. Find a healthy church culture and rebuild wise support. Biblical considerations for divorce - Abuse, abandonment, adultery are valid biblical grounds. With minors, weigh carefully: safety, modeling for children, and the realities of family court. Healing and identity - Post-abuse, identity is almost always impacted. You can be 10 years out and still hear their voice in your head—self-abuse by proxy. - The path: clean up the past (lies, agreements, unresolved pain), rebuild identity in Christ, then step into power and authority with wisdom and boundaries. - Beauty must rise with pain: intentionally add joy, nature, creativity, and community to counterbalance suffering. Church and parenting insights - Teach kids the Word, discernment, and healthy vs. unhealthy relationship dynamics. Christlike love includes boundaries and walking away when necessary. Programs and resources Annette mentioned - Living Well While Staying: coaching for women who choose to remain in Category 2 marriages, focused on reducing chaos and rebuilding a meaningful life. - Cinderella No More Academy: membership community and tools for recovery and growth. - Cinderella Conversations: 4-session discovery series on identifying narcissistic dynamics, tactics, false guilt, and spiritual warfare. - Upcoming book: Cinderella No More: Becoming Ella (target 2026). She’s seeking early readers for feedback. - For severe trauma/PTSD: consider a Christian therapist specializing in trauma; complement with coaches who understand narcissistic abuse. Interview for fit. One thing to remember - You didn’t cause it, you can’t fix it—and this isn’t the end. With God, this can be the beginning of a new, stronger chapter. You get to write the next chapters with Him.   PODCAST INTRO: My guest Annette Chesney is a Christian coach, speaker, and seasoned recovery professional  who equips women healing from narcissistic abuse. Narcissistic dynamics can be hard to spot because they often look like ordinary relationship friction at first. Many people struggle to tell the difference between someone who is simply hurting and occasionally hurtful, and someone who persistently harms others without accountability.  One useful way to think about it is as a spectrum: not everyone with difficult traits is a narcissist, and not every narcissistic person behaves the same way. Understanding this range can help you decide what you’re seeing—and what to do next. But before you think that keeps you in the dark….Annette has created a spectrum that consists of 4 categories or types of narcissists including 10 different characteristics. What she shares is very interesting and from my experience very accurate.  Annette’s work is done both one-on-one and in groups. She talks primarily from a women’s point of view with regard to narcissistic abuse but she did say men are subject to women narcs as well.  Annette talks about common red flags and she says pay attention to patterns over time rather than isolated incidents; that wider view tells the truth. Annette even shares about how she coaches women who choose to stay in a challenging relationship…she teaches  “management” strategies that focus less on changing the other person and more on stabilizing her client’s environment, protecting her energy, and minimizing chaos. A few of the examples she gave were learning how to reframe requests so they’re seen as mutually beneficial, limiting circular arguments, and building a strong support system outside the relationship.  She even touches on the subject for when separation or divorce becomes necessary and minor children are involved. She alerted us to the fact that trauma symptoms, including anxiety and PTSD‑like responses, are not uncommon adding that qualified mental health support and targeted coaching can help you recover clarity and confidence. Even with the reality of living with the effects of narcissistic abuse…the dismantling of who you are, loss of confidence, identity, goals, dreams etc. , Annette says recovery is possible. Many people find that healing involves unpacking earlier hurts, challenging false beliefs, rebuilding identity, and learning durable skills: boundaries, self‑care, emotional regulation, and discernment.  Getting connected with the right help will make all the difference and get you to what she calls…your Kingdom Zone of Impact where you’re living with identity and purpose in Christ.  Her parting words were for the listener to remember two things that are worth holding onto: you didn’t cause someone else’s narcissistic pattern, and you can’t fix it for them. What you can do is prioritize safety, educate yourself/get informed, surround yourself with wise support, and invest in your own future. Whether you’re staying, preparing to leave, or rebuilding afterward, the next chapters can be healthier—with Christ those next chapters are filled with restoration and redemption, they can bring clarity, strength identity and purpose… and they’re yours to discover with the Lover of Your Soul, the One who never abuses you, never fails you, Jesus. Live Loved and Thrive! Sherrie Pilk   Connect With Annette: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annette-chesney/ Website: https://annettechesney.com/ Visit her website for more information on the programs and resources Annette mentioned: - Living Well While Staying: coaching for women who choose to remain in Category 2 marriages, focused on reducing chaos and rebuilding a meaningful life. - Cinderella No More Academy: membership community and tools for recovery and growth. - Cinderella Conversations: 4-session discovery series on identifying narcissistic dynamics, tactics, false guilt, and spiritual warfare. - Upcoming book: Cinderella No More: Becoming Ella (target 2026). She’s seeking early readers for feedback. - For severe trauma/PTSD: consider a Christian therapist specializing in trauma; complement with coaches who understand narcissistic abuse. Interview for fit.  

SUMMARY: Guest: Lara Silverman — comedic actress, jazz singer, violinist, author, Stanford Law grad; formerly a federal prosecutor. -Faith roots: Grew up in a large Romanian Christian family (with Syrian Christian heritage); accepted Christ at 7; faith deepened after her aunt’s death from cancer. -Calling to law: Loved advocacy and public speaking; passed the bar after intense study; landed her dream role as a federal prosecutor in San Francisco. -Health crisis: Fell acutely ill in week two on the job with a rare, under-researched neurological vertigo disorder; tried ~30–150 therapies and ~38 medications (often worsened symptoms); bedridden for three years on a bedpan; ultimately resigned her post. -Ongoing illness: Continues to experience constant spinning sensations; multiple tentative diagnoses, no definitive cure; learned to walk again despite worsening symptoms when upright. -Spiritual wrestle: Initial confusion turned to seasons of bitterness and anger (more than depression); felt misunderstood by some believers when she sensed God calling her to accept ongoing suffering. -Acceptance and surrender: Believes God spoke that she would not be fully healed on this side of eternity; fasting exposed idols of health, marriage, and career; moved toward surrender and trust. -Meeting Matt: Church acquaintance (youth leader) who reached out during her bedridden years; he had suffered childhood cancer and was later diagnosed with terminal cancer; they formed a deep bond through shared suffering. -Marriage and loss: Married despite her illness and his terminal diagnosis; experienced “joy in grief” through ministry and creativity; Matt died a year later; Lara testifies to God’s peace and preparation through the loss. -Joy amid grief: Practiced finding “sprinkles of joy” (comedy clips, music, niece’s smile, devotionals); launched The Silverman Show (YouTube: comedy, music, theology); organized jazz fundraisers, including $13K raised for Haiti. -Theology of suffering: *Critiques “prosperity gospel light” in American church; calls for preparing believers to suffer well. *Emphasizes biblical themes: joy in suffering; God’s intentional purposes; eternal rewards (e.g., “crown of life”); 2 Corinthians 4:17’s “eternal weight of glory.” *Points to Isaiah 61 (double portion/redemption), 1 Peter 1:7 (tested faith), Job-like redemption ultimately fulfilled in eternity. *Cites Helen Roseveare’s testimony about trusting God in suffering. -Identity transformation: Early identity tied to achievement and “gold stars”; illness stripped these; learned identity in Christ, not performance; challenged by Matt’s loving rebukes about pride and usefulness. -Honest struggles: Jealousy when others receive “basic blessings” (marriage, children, health); wrestled with God’s statement “I know what’s best for you”; learning to believe God’s wisdom without having micro-level reasons. -Church’s role: Encourage sound theology of suffering, eternal perspective, and the call to “joy in grief”; avoid equating God’s love solely with earthly blessings. -Memoir: Wrote her memoir from bed over eight months, capturing God’s “receipts” (journaled answers, provisions, and lessons); aims to comfort sufferers with biblical reasons for suffering and stories of God’s nearness. -Hope redefined: Realistic hope is anchored in eternity (John 11:25); freedom from fear of death empowers purposeful living now. -Key scriptures referenced: 2 Corinthians 4:17 (eternal glory) 1 Peter 1:7 (tested genuineness of faith) Isaiah 61 (redemption, double portion) Isaiah 43:19–20 (streams in the wilderness) Romans 8:29 (conformed to Christ) John 11:25 (life beyond death) -Core takeaway: God provides “streams in the desert.” Open your heart to receive and choose joy in the midst of grief; joy and sorrow can coexist, and God will redeem suffering—fully in eternity, and often with foretastes now.   PODCAST INTRO: What happens when the life you planned—brilliant career, healthy body, tidy faith, marriage and children—collides with relentless suffering? For comedian, jazz singer, author, violinist, and Stanford-trained attorney Lara Silverman, that colission became a calling. Lara spent years pursuing her dream of becoming a federal prosecutor—years of academic discipline, devoted goal setting, and passionate pursuit. After graduating from Stanford, she enters the grueling vetting and elimination process of 1000 hopeful lawyers with the goal of making it to the top 3. When she learns that she made it in the top 3 her dream becomes a reality…she is standing at the pinnacle of a major goal in her life. She was accepted as a federal prosecutor and begin the task of fully stepping into that role. Until in her second week on the job, she fell violently ill with what would later be discovered as a rare, unresolved neurological condition that keeps her in a constant state of the world spinning around her. She endures that condition to this day…8 years now, 3 of which left her bedridden, on a bedpan, being cared for and nursed by her parents. Thirty-eight medications failed. Careers, plans, family timelines—all stripped away. In her personal dark valley of multi layered deaths, her testimony is that not only does God meet her there, He has never left her. True to being a trained lawyer, in her effort to make sense of her spinning, crumbling world she uses the Word/Bible to question God’s goodness and His fairness demanding that He explain Himself. She’s met with firm, steady, unwavering love that consistently engages her pain inviting her from striving to surrender. Through Lara’s fasting, God exposed hidden idols—health, marriage, career—not to shame her, but to set her free. Because I think we all know that if we build our lives on things that will fade, change, transition, not to mention the fact that we have no guarantees on anything we risk losing ourselves into despair and ruin. Then came an unlikely gift. As Lara lay in bed, a church acquaintance—Matt Silverman, a brilliant, joy-filled believer battling terminal cancer—began calling to pray and wrestle through theology with her. Friendship became love. They married, held jazz benefit concerts for Haiti, launched a small YouTube channel, and practiced “joy in grief” as a spiritual discipline. Exactly one year later, Matt went home to Jesus. Lara’s testimony is not tidy. She speaks frankly about anger, bitterness, jealousy, and the ache of unanswered prayers. Yet she clings to promises many avoid: that suffering refines faith (1 Peter 1), forges intimacy with Christ, prepares us for eternity (2 Corinthians 4), and—even here—can be met with streams in the desert (Isaiah 43). She believes God will redeem every loss, whether in the here and now or in eternity—and that the doctrine of reward, often neglected, gives sturdy hope when the nights are long. Her invitation is simple but not without surrender and therefor difficult: Look for “sprinkles of joy” each day. Refuse to waste your pain—serve others through it. Live now with eternity in view. If you’re not afraid to die, you can truly live. Sorrowful, yet always rejoicing. That’s Lara’s way through the wilderness—and a lifeline for anyone walking it today. In her memoir, Singing Through the Fire, she chronicles all of that’s happened, how God shows up, the challenges she’s put before Him and vice versa. What does it look like to struggle with God ? Lara provides examples, proof that He doesn’t leave even when our faith is weak and ungodly. He holds us up when our faith falters and He sustains us through the most devastating emotional, mental, physical, battles. Let’s listen in and find a reason to hope again, to find joy and to be comforted in what can feel like the wilderness. Live Loved and Thrive! Sherrie Pilk   CONNECT WITH LARA: Main Hub: https://linktr.ee/Larap3 Amazon link for her book: https://a.co/d/ayQyB52 Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/lara.palanjian.silverman Instagram handle: @larapalanjian Youtube: https://youtu.be/TDcUeQrbVZk Watch the deeply moving BOOK trailer here:  https://youtu.be/TDcUeQrbVZk Watch the second BOOK trailer here: https://youtube.com/shorts/bO34s0tLYyY?si=uTMALdhOPB6TOCnt RESOURCES PER LARA: Helen Roseveare’s testimony: https://youtu.be/VJCCx-qiZ24?si=ANuKzA-A-F6kwEkt Podcast: Keep an eye/ear out for her new podcast: Singing Through Fire w/Lara Silverman BIO: Lara Silverman is a Christian author, lawyer, jazz singer, comedic actress, violinist, and songwriter. She holds a J.D. from Stanford Law School and a B.A. in both Economics and Political Science from UC Berkeley. Before falling seriously ill in 2018, Lara worked for two federal judges and practiced high stakes litigation for three years at Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer LLP, where she specialized in intellectual property, antitrust, and contract cases of all kinds.   In 2023, Lara co-founded The Silverman Show—a multifaceted comedy, music, and theology show—and released her debut jazz/pop album as her own music producer in February 2024. In September 2024, she debuted as Mrs. Serious in her solo Armenian comedy show online, amassing upwards of 300,000 views on individual videos on Instagram. Lara’s writing has been featured in various respected Christian blogs, where her reflections on faith, suffering, and grace have encouraged readers across diverse audiences. Even as she remains mostly bedridden today, she anchors her unwavering hope in God.    

SUMMARY: -Dating is harder today due to digital misrepresentation and added life complexities after 40 (widowhood, divorce, family-of-origin issues); real-life community is essential for discernment and support. -Prioritize meeting and observing potential partners in Christian community and everyday life to see a 360-degree picture (church involvement, service, friendships, parenting). -Four non-negotiables for compatibility: 1) a disciple of Jesus (vibrant, fruit-bearing faith), 2) adult readiness for marriage (responsibility, job, ownership), 3) humility and teachability, 4) generally aligned direction/calling. -Avoid “project” dating and rescuer roles; don’t ignore red flags—marry a whole person as you bring your whole self, with ownership and healing underway. -Therapy can be valuable, but vet carefully; seek biblically grounded counseling and community oversight (e.g., Focus on the Family’s vetted counselor network). -Lisa’s book, The Dating Manifesto, urges intentional, biblically honoring dating, debunks rom-com myths, and equips singles to live with purpose and hope while navigating grief and unmet expectations. -Churches often center on families; singles can be part of the solution by serving, leading, and creating community rather than criticizing from the sidelines. -Treat early dates as exploratory conversations (not instant marital auditions); ask your own questions, keep emotional perspective, and ensure you can remain in community, in a healthy way, if it doesn’t work out. -Discuss difficult topics (past relationships, addictions, pornography) as the relationship progresses; look for transparency, accountability, and community verification—humble, teachable responses are key. -Identity in Christ anchors dating and marriage; sexual integrity matters (avoid premarital sex and cohabitation), trust God’s timing, and “wait well” by abiding in Christ, engaging community, and pursuing purpose with open hands.   PODCAST INTRO: Dating today can feel like defusing a minefield—especially after 40, when life experience, grief, divorce, or long seasons of singleness shape how we show up. So my guest today, Lisa Anderson is an author, she is the director of Boundless at Focus on the Family, and hosts The Boundless Show podcast. Our conversation is based on a biblical viewpoint of dating. I know many think it too strict but if we’re honest, God’s ways always bring life, peace, joy, protection and that’s a pretty good return on your investment. Lisa lays out some clear boundaries on dating and even sharing how to reflect on our own personal wholeness (meaning in what mental/emotional condition are we showing up, which can also help us know if we’re even ready to be dating). She talks about how to find a mate who is healthy themselves and what does healthy even mean. Her point being, if you’re dating after 40 then there’s been a lot of life that has happened. That’s a reality that we must fold into the process and so how can we discern between healthy, a hot mess, a fixer upper? I don’t know about you but at my age the thought of a fixer upper is not appealing but Lisa takes the reality of how life takes it toll on us and she breaks down on exactly how to tell if this is someone who has taken responsibility and is moving forward, vs stagnate or a straight up red flag. Oh and then there’s the challenges of digital dating. That seems to raise the bar on deception but in all fairness I’ve had friends who have used digital dating and they had good experiences. So don’t be dismayed, Lisa says there’s some good news. You don’t need perfect conditions to move forward, you need community, clarity, and courage. And that’s what Lisa delivers in this conversation. Real quick, Here are 2 of her dating suggestions that I think are solid: Start with real community One of the safer places is to meet someone in an environment where you spend time. Do you have a hobby, do you volunteer, where do you go to church & do you participate/serve at church? Ideally, you’re looking for like minded people and they’re going to be in the same places you are. Lisa says Community is the safest place to meet people and the wisest place to test new relationships. I thought that smart because you have an environment where people know the both of you. Date with purpose—but keep it simple I personally feel that dating is for marriage so I think that would put a lof of pressure….so Lisa was saying Think “exploratory conversation,” not instant compatibility quiz. It’s just coffee. Ask good questions. Just relax and Lisa reminds us… Until there’s a ring, you’re a brother and sister in Christ—treat each other that way. I’ll wrap up after this quick list. Here’s 4 non-negotiables to begin with. In our conversation Lisa breaks these down even more with great insight, examples and wisdom. A disciple of Jesus: Not just church attendance—active pursuit of Christ, fruit of the Spirit, repentance, and engaged Christian community. In a position to marry: someone who has done or is doing their homework on their personal healing journey, shows responsibility, forgiveness, financial steadiness, follow-through. Humble and teachable: Open to counsel, not playing the blame game, and receptive to wise instruction. Generally headed in the same direction: Lisa looks at personal callings on their life and rhythms that can realistically unite for a stronger bond. So much good stuff, check the show notes for a link to her book, The Dating Manifesto: A Drama-Free Plan for Pursuing Marriage with Purpose with Author, Lisa Anderson and a link to the Focus on the Family’s counseling network. Let’s dive in! Lived Loved and Thrive! Sherrie Pilk Podcast Host   CONNECT WITH LISA: Podcast Host: The Boundless Show: Boundless Website Her Book: The Dating Manifesto: A Drama-Free Plan for Pursuing Marriage with Purpose - Amazon Link Focus on the Family Website: Focus On The Family  

SUMMARY: * Guest: J. Harrington, author of “Swords Up: Mastering the Weapons of Spiritual Warfare for Today’s Christian Woman,” an eight-week Bible study. * Tragic loss: During pregnancy with a son, sensed the Holy Spirit warn she wouldn’t keep him; hurricane delayed care; confirmed no heartbeat; experienced palpable peace from God in the hospital. * Aftermath: Peace lifted upon discharge; entered a season of anger and grief; continued attending church though unable to worship; community’s faith “washed over” her until she could worship again. * Spiritual vision: Sensed a dark presence opposite God’s presence in the hospital, awakening her to real spiritual opposition and the need to fight spiritually. * Defining spiritual warfare: Attacks and distractions that keep believers from their God-given purpose; highly personal to each person’s struggles. * Armor of God insights:      * Emphasis on knowing Scripture to detect Satan’s schemes.     * Discovery in Ephesians: “Powers” (exousia) includes “power of choice,” highlighting our daily choices as a battlefield.     * All armor pieces work together; two threads tie them: surrender and prayer.     * Prayer activates and sustains every piece of the armor; Scripture remains the primary weapon. * Identity: Strengthened by Scripture, prayer, confession, and biblical community; refute lies with God’s truth (fearfully made, new creation, royal priesthood). * Personal battlefields: Motherhood, marriage balance, overwhelm, social media comparison; surrendering speech, attitudes, and reactions to God; guarding heart from toxic inputs. * Practical application to pain:     * Hope in God’s promises (e.g., future restoration and no more tears).     * Use Scripture and honest prayer to process grief and anger; God can handle “angry prayers.”     * Confession as a powerful, often-overlooked practice to break strongholds. * Tools and resources: “Emergency Toolkit” (free download at jpherrington.com): verses + short prayers for anxiety, anger, loneliness, worthlessness, etc. * Key takeaway: Read your Bible daily. Pair Scripture with persistent prayer and honest confession. This combination reshapes identity, fortifies against spiritual attacks, and transforms how you walk through pain.   BLOG INTRO: Author, J Harrington didn’t come to spiritual warfare through theory—she was drafted by loss. A military spouse and young mom, Jay describes herself (when in her 20s) as being prickly and performance-driven, a Sunday-only faith wrapped around busyness. She married her high school sweetheart, her husband became a marine and they began their family. They were first blessed with a precious daughter and with J’s second pregnancy she prayed for a little boy so that the Harrington name would carry on through the generations to come.  But J’s life was about to be flipped upside down in a cruel and unpredictable way. God prepared her for the unthinkable when He spoke into her spirit before Hurricane Florence: “Get used to the idea that you don’t get to keep your son.” As the hurricane came near, knocking out power even before it came on land…(and then if you remember anything about Florence, the east coast experienced power loss for 2 weeks, some longer)…J became concerned realizing she hadn’t felt her baby in a few days. When the hospitals were finally up and running accepting appointments, her fears became a reality when they found no heartbeat.  Forced to deliver her son as though everything were normal, she says, the delivery room was thick with peace. Nurses felt it, the custodian felt it—“like a warm hug.” As J prepared to leave the hospital God gave her a heads up on the battle that would be waiting for her. When she walked out of the hospital, the warmth lifted. What followed were “angry prayers,” the kind you don’t think you’re allowed to pray. J reminded us that God’s a big boy, and that He can handle our emotions. I agree because He’s been doing that for well over 2000+ years.  Even though J could not praise the Lord or pray, she still went to church and it became the place where the faith of others washed over her until her own praise could rise again. Through grief came transformation. J admits that The me before my tragedy, couldn’t be used the same way. Loss softened what feistiness had hardened. It also opened her eyes to the battle she believes many Christians ignore: not just demonic opposition, but the daily front-lines of choice.  While studying Ephesians 6:12: (“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”) t was the word “powers” that stuck out to her. So she dug into the Greek word and the deeper meaning of “powers” and she found it to mean, authority, yes, but also “the power of choice.” In other words: our decisions can be a battlefield and that really resonated with me. Not only from the view point of experiencing that personally but seeing choices as a daily battle that I face and this of course made me see how important it is to understand spiritual warfare. J’s discovery became a book…. Swords Up: Mastering the Weapons of Spiritual Warfare for Today’s Christian Woman—an eight-week Bible study she says the Holy Spirit downloaded in minutes after she dared Him to use her pen. The study reframes the armor of God as both defense and weapon, threaded by two essentials: surrender and prayer. “Prayer engages every piece of armor,” We’re essentially fighting with one hand tied behind our back if we neglect the Word. I know prayer and surrender seem very weak but isn’t that just like God to confound the wise with simple things that reveal themselves as having transformational power?  J’s challenge for us is simple and fierce: dust off your Bible! Let’s listen in to see how we can be equipped to battle all that this life can throw at us with the intention of destroying us even if it’s only on the inside. Swords UP ladies, the battle is real. Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Hugs, Sherrie Pilk   RESOURCES - Other podcasts on this topic: The Possibility of Joy After Child Loss, with Lisa Espinoza: https://alifeofthrive.com/2025/07/16/the-possibility-of-joy-after-child-loss-with-lisa-espinoza/ A Deep Dive of the Soul After Child Loss, with Bridgett Dunbar: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/07/03/a-deep-dive-of-the-soul-after-child-loss-stillbirth-with-bridgett-dunbar/   CONNECT WITH JANANYA: Website: https://jpharrington.com/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/jpharringtonauthor IG: https://www.instagram.com/jananyaharrington/   BIO: J. Harrington is a dynamic author and ministry leader who brings a unique blend of military spouse experience, academic insight, and spiritual passion to her writing. With a background in anthropology and project management, Harrington serves as the Digital Content Manager for Holy Culture Radio while serving in church ministries. Her work reflects a deep commitment to faith and a knack for applying biblical truths to modern challenges. When not writing or serving her community in Jacksonville, NC, you can find her embracing life's adventures with her family of four.

SUMMARY: -Guest, Dr. Janelle Martin, author of “Losing Her, Finding Us,” shares the parent perspective of a child’s addiction, alongside her daughter Reagan’s perspective. These dual perspectives (parent and child) in one narrative to validate parents’ feelings, reduce isolation, and offer hope and clarity. -Janelle sought real-life accounts over “how-to” guides to understand others’ emotions, thoughts, and experiences during a child’s addiction. -A robust parent program at The Pathway Program (Phoenix) connected her with other parents; weekly meetings were pivotal to feeling safe, seen, and not judged. -She pursued her own recovery (sponsor and 12 steps) to understand her daughter’s world and to have informed conversations—an unexpectedly life-changing step. -Like grief groups, parent recovery support equips, reframes expectations, reduces isolation, and fosters compassion. -Many programs offer family weekends or encourage Al-Anon/Nar-Anon; walking into meetings is hard but profoundly helpful. -Addiction is widely misjudged as “bad people making bad choices.” Families can look “normal.” Judgment and silence fuel isolation. -Divorce, parental conflict, and manipulation by Reagan’s father harmed both children; Reagan felt unloved relative to her brother and experienced sexual abuse at age five (disclosed later). -God’s guidance felt evident in finding The Pathway Program and a tough, effective counselor for Reagan; long-term approach (2–2.5 years) was crucial. -Scripture study, worship, prayer, and teachings (notably Beth Moore) sustained her; she experienced divine provision (finances, people, peace) throughout. -Not all counselors understand addiction—seek specialists; forcing counseling rarely works without willingness. -Post-sobriety, mother and daughter had raw conversations, apologies, and interviews for the book, deepening empathy and respect. -“Losing Her, Finding Us” is a raw, hopeful, page-turning narrative for parents, loved ones, and anyone seeking compassion, practical insights (boundaries, hard decisions), and resources. -Janelle leads Parents of Addicted Loved Ones (PAL) meetings in Houston on Wednesdays at 7 PM—free, ongoing, and transformative for parents. -Addiction happens to everyday families. Seek support, cultivate compassion, and learn how to be a helpful ally. There are people ready to take your hand. -Resources mentioned were Al-Anon, Nar-Anon, Celebrate Recovery, PAL, and long-term adolescent/young adult programs. PODCAST INTRO: As my guest Janelle Martin shares, addiction affects normal people. I personally think there is no boundary that addiction won’t cross. Mainly because when we use a substance to alleviate pain, find escape, dull our feelings; plain and simple … it works. Janelle learned this (addiction affects normal people) and countless other things associated with addiction when it came to light that her daughter Regan was using in order to cope with parental heartbreak, trauma and the overwhelm that it brought to her life. Janelle’s journey through addiction from the parent’s perspective began with fear, grief, and the heavy stigma that so often hushes families. She grew up believing addiction happened to “other people,” until it shattered her own home. What followed was a crash course in letting go, setting hard boundaries, and grieving the loss of shared memories, milestones (specifically her senior year because it all came to a head at that time)—so she didn’t go to the prom, she did not graduate with her class and nor did she get to enjoy all the ways that celebration culminates after 12 years of schooling. Janette found herself missing the simple joy of “normal.” A turning point came through community. While Reagan entered a long-term adolescent recovery program in Arizona, Janelle found that this recovery program also had a parent group that met weekly—there is such incredible value in finding people who understand without explanation. Encouraged to “work her own recovery,” she got a sponsor and worked the 12 steps, not because Janelle had a substance problem, but her greatest desire was to see her daughter healed so this was how she could meet her daughter where she was. The 12 step process unexpectedly transformed Janelle’s life. Faith sustained her. She cried out to the Lord, tearfully lamenting in her car. At work she’d be the only one in the office so she would play worship music and she would cry. She’d take long walks with Beth Moore teachings in her earbuds and she would cry—she found strength, provision, and practical help in places only God could have orchestrated. As an example, she knew nothing about how to address addiction, and she certainly knew nothing about how to begin recovery and yet from a random google search she found the perfect facility and was matched with the right counselor that could work with her daughter in a productive way. Also, being able to afford her daughter’s treatment and the opportunity to travel to see her a few times, funds that were already drained from the divorce and custody battle somehow stretched. Provision met her at every step. Today, Janelle leads meetings for her group, Parents of Addicted Loved Ones. She offers resources and encouragement to families who feel alone. Her message is simple and liberating: addiction happens to ordinary families. You didn’t cause it. You can’t cure it. But you don’t have to walk it alone. If addiction has touched your home—or the home of someone you love—there is help and hope for the journey. You’re not alone mainly because Jesus has promised to never leave nor forsake you but He also gives us tangible resources and people who have walked the road we may find ourselves on and they’re ready to lock arms, comfort and lead when possible. Let’s listen in to discover Janelle’s story and how this has changed not only her life…but because of what she’s been through and the passion she has to help others, she’s changing the lives of countless parents and families. Live Loved and Thrive! Sherrie Connect with Janelle: Her Book: “Losing Her, Finding Us”: https://www.ourbeautifulrecovery.com/services-1 Website: https://www.ourbeautifulrecovery.com Instagram: @ourbeautifulrecovery Facebook: Janelle Martin Author Janelle leads weekly PAL (Parents of Addicted Loved Ones) meetings in Houston, Wednesdays at 7:00 PM (free). BIO: Dr. Janelle Martin is a licensed counselor, certified IASIS MicroCurrent Neurofeedback provider, and a doctor of functional medicine. She is the founder of The Mind Connection, a holistic mental health practice based in Houston, Texas, where she helps clients heal from trauma, addiction, and emotional dysregulation using an integrative mind-body approach. Janelle is also the author of Losing Her, Finding Us, a powerful memoir chronicling her daughter’s battle with addiction and their family’s journey to healing. With deep empathy and hard-earned wisdom, Janelle now advocates for families navigating similar paths, offering practical support and hope. Her work combines clinical expertise with personal experience to meet others in their pain and walk with them toward recovery.

SUMMARY: - Guest, Author and speaker Debora Coty shares how to find joy amid pain, drawing from deep personal losses and decades of ministering to women. - Writing journey: Her Too Blessed to Be Stressed brand unexpectedly grew to 40+ books/products with 2M+ copies sold worldwide; new devotional Bless Your Heart focuses on daily encouragement. - “Papa God”: She uses the intimate, biblical sense of Abba (Papa/Daddy) to help women experience God’s unconditional love beyond imperfect earthly-father images. - Faith in crisis: Six miscarriages triggered a two-year spiritual shutdown; daily praying through the Psalms—starting with “angry” psalms—slowly reopened her heart to God’s presence. - Recent trials: Multiple family deaths, job loss, knee replacements, a spouse’s cancer, and a 5-year legal battle to protect her grandchildren—culminating in unexpected, miraculous breakthrough. - Joy vs. happiness: Happiness depends on circumstances; joy is a chosen, steady confidence in God’s unchanging character that can coexist with grief. - Tools for resilience: Gratitude (Philippians 4:6–7), worship/music, nature, Scripture, intentional fun and laughter, and noticing daily “grace notes” (small signs of God’s care). - “BOGO blessings”: Inspired by 1 Peter 3:9—when you bless others, you “be one, get one,” receiving blessing as you give it. - Anchoring Scriptures: Philippians 4:6–7 (peace covenant), Psalm 46:1 (ever-present help), Psalm 147:3 (heals the brokenhearted). - Invitation: Join her BFF (Blessed Friends Forever) community for mutual prayer, encouragement, and practical faith; final charge—keep seeking God’s presence with perseverance.   PODCAST INTRO: If you’ve ever wondered how joy can possibly coexist with grief, today’s conversation is for you. I’m joined by beloved author and encourager Debora Coty—creator of the Too Blessed to Be Stressed series, with over two million copies in print worldwide. She and I had a chance to connect for the podcast while she was visiting family in the Smokey Mountains and Debora brought her signature warmth, humor, and hard-won wisdom to help us find God’s presence in life’s most painful seasons. We talk about the difference between happiness and true, resilient joy; how scripture—especially the Psalms and Philippians 4:6–7—anchors us when our faith feels shaken; and the “grace notes” God sprinkles through our days when we learn to look for them. Debora opens up about profound losses—miscarriages, family heartbreak, health challenges, and a long, exhausting court battle—and how waiting on God can still lead to breathtaking redemption. You’ll hear practical tools to refresh a weary spirit: gratitude that changes the atmosphere, worship that invites God’s presence, nature that whispers His care, and yes—laughter—as a catalyst for joy. Debora also shares about her new devotional, Bless Your Heart, and invites you into her BFF—Blessed Friends Forever—community for prayer, connection, and ongoing encouragement. Let’s listen in as Debora shares her message of joy, hope and encouragement. As soon as she starts talking you know immediately that’s she’s an encourager at heart maybe it’s because she exudes the joy of the Lord…and because of that joy, I think you’ll be surprising to hear all that she's been through and yet she still keeps leaning on Jesus for His joy and strength. Live Loved and Thrive @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk   ADDITIONAL BLOGS AND/OR PODCASTS ON THIS TOPIC: Joy in the Midst of Grief, with Author Sonya Mack: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/01/04/joy-in-the-midst-of-grief-with-author-sonya-mack/ Finding Hope in the Ashes, with Lea Turner: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/09/25/finding-hope-in-the-ashes-with-lea-turner/ Widows, Grief and Finding Hope, with Anne-Marie Lockyer: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/02/14/widows-grief-and-finding-hope-with-anne-marie-lockmyer/ The Possibility of Joy After Child Loss, with Lisa Espinoza: https://alifeofthrive.com/2025/07/16/the-possibility-of-joy-after-child-loss-with-lisa-espinoza/   CONNECT WITH DEBORA: Website: https://deboracoty.com/ Learn more about Debora’s BBF (Blessed Friends Forever) Group by subscribing to her blog (which is on her website)   BIO: Debora M. Coty is an events speaker, columnist, certified writing coach, and award-winning author of over 200 articles and 40 inspirational book products, including the bestselling Too Blessed to be Stressed series, which has influenced two million lives worldwide. An orthopedic occupational therapist for 36 years and piano teacher for 30, Debora rejoices in life as a diehard tennis addict and choco-athlete (that’s the step beyond chocoholic – she exercises just so she can eat more chocolate). She’s a bodacious women’s Bible study leader, and animated storyteller to anyone who’ll listen. Deb lives, loves, and laughs in central Florida with her long suffering husband of 47 years, two grown children, and five precocious grandbuddies. Debora, known for her offbeat blend of humor and hope, has a passion for bringing women together to deepen relationships vertically (with their heavenly Father) and horizontally (developing heart-friends). Deb loves hosting a fun-loving community of BFFs (Blessed Friends Forever) from all over the globe at www.DeboraCoty.com.

SUMMARY: -Lori Ann shares her journey of faith through ongoing uncertainty, particularly after her heart disease diagnosis. -Despite being physically healthy, she later discovered her heart condition that she had no point of reference or expectation of this type of diagnosis. -Lori Ann emphasizes the importance of maintaining faith during difficult times, discussing how grief and gratitude can coexist. -She encourages embracing the practice of lament as a way to deepen one's relationship with God. -Through her experiences, she highlights the significance of community support, the need for open conversations about pain, and the importance of relinquishing control to God. -Her book, "Divine Detour" is structured around three key questions inspired by Jesus' temptations in the desert, addressing doubts about life, God's goodness, and control over circumstances. Three questions that can be applied to every type of pain and suffering. -In closing Lori Ann encourages others to hold on to their faith, recognizing that God desires an ongoing conversation with them, regardless of their circumstances.   PODCAST INTRO: My guest Lori Ann Wood has discovered so much beauty in the midst of a life detour that could only promise uncertainty and yet it became a divine detour. Hard fought beauty, as she sifted through layers of questions and gave God her deep heartache. What she’s discovered and shares here today, is going to be gold for your heart. Lori Ann shares the journey she entered into when her life hit a major detour, based on an unexpected diagnosis of heart failure. Married to her high school sweetheart and mother to three adult children, Lori's life was bustling with activity and health consciousness. However, a shocking diagnosis challenged her understanding of control, faith, and God's presence in suffering. Lori Ann candidly discusses the initial disbelief of her diagnosis and the silence from God that she experienced, comparing her questions and search for understanding and the struggle with answered prayer to a spiritual wrestling match. Despite her pristine health metrics, she overlooked minor symptoms, not knowing those symptoms were pointing to her life changing detour. Throughout the conversation, Lori Ann delves into the duality of grief and gratitude, acknowledging the coexistence of pain and thankfulness. She emphasizes the significance of lament in her faith journey, a practice she initially hesitated to embrace but found crucial for expressing her deepest fears and doubts to God. I especially loved when our conversation turned to her book, Divine Detour where she explores three pivotal questions inspired by Jesus's temptations in the desert: Is this life all there is? Is God always good? Is God's plan enough? These questions reflect her struggle with worry, doubt, and control, ultimately leading her to a deeper relationship with God. You’re going to be extravagantly blessed as you listen to this conversation and all that Lori Ann has to share. In every one of her answers she delivers beautiful insight with regard to God’s heart for those who are suffering. If you are in a season of loss and uncertainty and you wonder where God is, does He care about what is happening in your life….then make time to engage with every bit of Lori Ann’s insight. The title of her book says it perfectly, Divine Detour because when the unexpected throws a block into the road that were happily headed down, I know that is the exact spot where the enemy wanted to destroy us (with a diagnosis, with that loss, with no end in sight, with grief)…but God….He enters with His love, grace and mercy, and turns our detour into something far more beautiful than what this life has to offer. If at all possible, get your pen and paper ready because you’re gonna want to capture and reread these distinctions and revelations that Lori Ann has to share. Live Loved and Thrive @ alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk   PODCASTS AND/OR BLOGS ON SIMILAR TOPICS: Building Faith in Uncertainty, with Katie Jones: https://alifeofthrive.com/2025/03/12/building-faith-in-uncertainty-with-katie-jones/ Living in Uncertainty, with Angie Baughman: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/02/28/uncertainty/ The Uncertainty of Life - Choroidal Melanoma (Eye Cancer), with Suzanne Stines: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/08/16/the-uncertainty-of-life-cordial-melanoma-eye-cancer-with-suzanne-stines/   CONNECT WITH LORI ANN: Website: https://loriannwood.com/   BIO: Lori Ann Wood lives with her husband in an empty nest in the foothills of the Ozark Mountains of Northwest Arkansas. After discovering a serious heart condition almost too late, Lori Ann became an award-winning author and speaker whose passion is to explore deep faith questions along the detours of life. Lori Ann’s first book, Divine Detour: The Path You’d Never Choose Can Lead to the Faith You’ve Always Wanted, is available at Amazon and at https://loriannwood.com/books/.   If you’re on a detour, and find it difficult to communicate with God, get her free gift, 5 Prayers & Promises When You Can’t Talk to God, at https://loriannwood.com/hope/.   For more information about the heart failure warning signs Lori Ann missed, she’d love to share her graphic as a gift to you, https://loriannwood.com/heart.

SUMMARY: *The conversation centers around the challenges of parenting, particularly when dealing with prodigal children—those who stray from their upbringing and values. *The speakers discuss the emotional and spiritual battles parents face, emphasizing the importance of spiritual warfare and maintaining a relationship with God. *Personal experiences of feeling unprepared for the struggles of raising children, especially as they grow older and make their own choices. *Debra McNinch shares the battle plan God showed her and reminded parents that the outcome of their children's lives is ultimately in God's hands. *Forgiveness for moms who struggle with guilt was discussed and Debra shares a 3 point process to use. She reminded listeners the need to accept God's forgiveness and to stand firm in faith, even amidst difficulties. *The discussion highlights the significance of identity in Christ and the importance of loving children without compromising biblical truths. *The speakers conclude by promoting a sense of community among parents facing similar challenges and encouraging them to remember that they are not alone in their battles. PODCAST INTRO: My guest, Debra McNinch sits down to have an in-depth conversation about prodigal children and we talked about all the ways this affects a mother’s heart. No matter the type of rebellion your child is walking in, addiction, LGBTQ, rebellion of family values, estrangement, cutting off parents has become a huge movement…really any way that we see our children living outside the way they were raised specifically the biblical values that the parent tried to instill. We talked about guilt and how mom’s and dad’s can find forgiveness vs beating ourselves up over the would’ves, could’ves & should’ves. I’ll put (in the show notes) a quick list of the 3 ways to engage forgiveness but don’t miss out on the message surrounding it because Debra gives much more info in the episode itself. We looked at shifting the burden that we carry in our heart for our child’s salvation and their entry into heaven because ultimately it’s not our responsibility, it’s God’s job and He is trustworthy to watch over His children. God has a purpose and a plan for your child just like He has one for you. I beginning to understand that the key is learning how to get behind God to support what God is doing. But I’ll be honest, that is not for the weak hearted because you have to be willing to lay down the illusion we carry with regard to control, we have to address our pride and we have to be willing to cling to God when we see our children struggling through consequences. We acknowledged that this is spiritual warfare and that Satan is trying his best to not only destroy the family unit but to cut off and destroy generations that belong to our children. Debra shares a strategy for our battle stance to be able to affectively engage and strike down the enemy of our soul. We may not be responsible for our children’s faith but as Debra says, Love goes to war; so we can certainly stand in the gap and effectively fight the Goliath that is coming after them. Debra’s 5 point battle stance that she shares can also be seen in the show notes but again, she shares much more detail in the episode so don’t miss that bit of gold. Some of our conversation is based on the belief that if we raise a child in the church and instill biblical values we believe we have a guarantee of their salvation and their pursuit of Christ and heaven’s value system etc. but many of us know that it does not guarantee they will always adhere to those instilled values. If I had to boil this conversation down to 2 major takeaways, it would be hard but I think I’d side with Debra’s personal battle cry…No one fights alone and also when she said something that I have come to understand more deeply after walking this valley of loosing my husband….”God’s promise isn’t that you’re going to get the perfect outcome. His promise is that He’ll never leave you and that He’s going to walk with you the whole way.” Knowing you’re not alone is a lifeline for the heart. Near the end of our conversation Debra had me super encouraged as she gave the battle cry for all parents to stand up. For us to fight the lies that culture dictates, and to dismantle the belief that we’re powerless adding that engaging God’s heart in the battle is where our power comes from. If you’re a parent of a prodigal, Debra offers guidance and hope. You can receive more in-depth instruction in her book, Battle Cry - Waging the Spiritual Battle for Your Prodigal. And you can find encouragement in her support group, Battlecrymoms.com. Let’s listen in to find hope and understanding on how to engage the power of Christ in order to give God the burden and how we are to stand in agreement with Him. Live Loved and Thrive! Sherrie Pilk 3 STEPS TO FIND FORGIVENESS: - Go to the alter ask God for forgiveness - Ask your child forgiveness - Put on the Armor (action) and Stand (in faith) that Christ is going to fight the battle for you. BATTLE STANCE TO STAND IN THE GAP FOR YOUR CHILD: - Pick a verse for your child and pray it over their life every day. - Worship - God inhabits our praise/worship. - Pray - Acknowledge God’s full authority over your child. - Speak God’s promises over your child. - Connect with a supportive Community. MORE PODCASTS AND/OR BLOGS ON SIMILAR TOPICS: Does God Care About People in Prison? Ex-Con, Steven Snook Says Yes!: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/02/15/does-god-care-about-people-in-prison-ex-con-steven-snook-says-yes/ From Bartender, To Nun, to Bartender, to Transformed - God Never Gives Up, with Gina Economopoulos: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/11/06/from-bartender-to-nun-to-bartender-to-transformed-god-never-gives-up/ CONNECT WITH DEBRA: Website: https://www.debramcninch.com/ Her Book: https://www.debramcninch.com/battlecrybook Support Group - there’s a group for moms and there’s a group for dads: https://www.debramcninch.com/battlecry BIO: Debra McNinch is a wife, mom, speaker, first-time author, and the founder of the BATTLECRY Prayer Movement—a growing community of parents who are praying their prodigal children back home to Jesus. She loves photography, working on her photo farm, and sharing life with  Steve, her husband of 33 years, two sweet puppies: Poppy the Berne Doodle and Dodger the Miniature Schnauzer. She is also the faithful feeder of Butters, the neighborhood stray cat. Debra’s favorite things are Jesus, coffee, cupcakes, and glitter (in that order!). She collects vintage junk, anything sparkly, and more Sharpies than one person needs. She takes pride in learning a new skill each year and gets through life by leaning on God’s Word—and a little humor. She especially loves when the two collide. Born and raised in Winfield, Kansas, home to Bluegrass and Burger Station, Debra has moved nine times to six different states. Each move brought her closer to God and connected her with lifelong friends. In Fall 2024, Debra released her first book with CrossRiver Media, sharing her family’s story and how it led to a powerful prayer movement for prodigals. She writes and speaks to encourage parents to keep praying and keep believing—because prodigals are coming home.

SUMMARY: *Melissa shares her journey of faith and the challenges she faced, including health struggles and the loss of her teaching career. *She emphasizes the importance of understanding one's identity in Christ and how her experiences led her to write a 66-day reading plan that highlights Jesus' presence throughout the Bible. *The discussion touches on God's mercy, the power of scripture, and the significance of prayer in deepening one's relationship with God. *Melissa encourages readers to engage with the Bible, noting that it offers peace and understanding in difficult times. *Melissa closes the conversation with encouragement and the importance of holding onto faith and recognizing God's sovereignty in all circumstances. PODCAST INTRO: Life is our personal journey, filled with unexpected turns, challenges, and moments of profound revelation. For my guest, Melissa McLaughlin, a teacher turned author, her journey of faith has been marked by both struggle and transformation, ultimately leading her to a deeper relationship with Christ. Melissa's story is a testament to the power of perseverance, faith, and the profound impact of God's word in our lives. Melissa grew up in a Christian household, surrounded by love and the teachings of the Bible. Her early life experiences, including growing up with a brother who had special needs, and that inspired her to become a teacher. For 28 years, she dedicated her life to educating children, driven by a passion for learning and problem-solving. However, life threw her a curveball when health issues forced her into an unexpected early retirement. Faced with excruciating physical pain and the loss of a career she loved, Melissa found herself questioning God's plan for her life. In the midst of physical pain, losing the career that filled her day and becoming dependent on her husband and others, Melissa discovered that her identity was not rooted in her career, accomplishments or abilities but in her relationship with God. Through prayer and reflection, she realized that God was using her hardships to peel back layers of self-reliance and pride, revealing her true identity as a child of God. This revelation brought about a different type of pain and true to God’s way of healing us, it was also beautifully transformative, leading her to a deeper understanding of her faith and purpose. As God moves Melissa away from teaching He opens a new door for her to be an author. Her first book, "In Dark of Night, When Words Fail, Voice of Jesus, Pray for Me," was born out of her personal struggle with prayer. Through the power of scripture-based prayers, Melissa found her voice and a new way to connect with God. Her latest book, "The Whole Bible Devotional," offers readers a 66-day reading plan that highlights the presence of Jesus throughout the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. This devotional is designed to help readers see the Bible as a cohesive narrative and to deepen their relationship with God. Melissa's story is a powerful reminder that even in our darkest moments, God is at work, using our struggles to draw us closer to Him. Her journey illustrates the importance of clinging to faith and finding solace in the power of scripture. As she shares her experiences, Melissa encourages others to hold on to Jesus, trusting that He can bring beauty from ashes and transform our lives in ways we never imagined. Let’s listen in and give our heart a beautiful dose of encouragement! Lived Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk MORE PODCASTS AND/OR BLOGS ON SIMILAR TOPICS: The Transformative Power of Gratitude, With Amanda Schaefer: https://alifeofthrive.com/2025/01/15/the-transformative-power-of-gratitude-with-amanda-schaefer/ Word Power (Blog): https://alifeofthrive.com/2019/06/24/word-power/ The Word (Blog): https://alifeofthrive.com/2020/08/03/the-word/ CONNECT WITH MELISSA: Website: https://melissamclaughlin.org/about BIO: Melissa McLaughlin is a teacher, writer, wife, mom, speaker, prayer leader, and an overcomer. Her passion is pursuing Christ with biblical truth, Spirit-filled grace, and fervent prayer.

SUMMARY: The conversation features Reverend Cheryl discussing her experiences with childhood trauma, including living in a chaotic environment with an abusive father and a depressed mother. *She emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing abuse, understanding forgiveness, and setting boundaries. *The dialogue explores the complexities of healing, the role of faith, and the necessity of confronting abusive behavior while also finding strength in God. *Reverend Cheryl shares insights on how to support women in violent situations, the significance of therapy, and the importance of community support. *Ultimately, she highlights that healing is a lifelong journey involving layers of understanding and growth, and encourages women to assert their identity in Christ to reclaim their voices and establish healthy boundaries. PODCAST INTRO: The ministry of my guest, Reverend Cheryl Kincaid, focuses on giving voice to Christian women caught in violent situations and relationships, aiming to help them find wholeness and healing through God's instruction. Using her personal story of abuse combining that with her education in Marriage and Family Therapy along with her Master of Divinity from San Francisco Theological Seminary, Rev Cheryl talked about understanding abuse, boundaries, identity, righteous anger, and forgiveness as taught in the bible. The discussion on forgiveness alone was worth the conversation because so much about God’s love and forgiveness has been hijacked with a toxic empathy that is used against tender hearted, conscious Christians especially the abused. We talked about the difference between forgiveness and denial. Reverend Cheryl states that forgiveness requires acknowledging the hurt caused by others and making a conscious decision to forgive, while denial involves minimizing the impact of the abuse or rationalizing it. One of the tools that Rev Cheryl shares is for the moments when you’re having a flashback, you’ve been triggered or trying to resolve inner, emotional mental conflict in yourself. She shares this exercise, the therapeutic term known as classical conditioning and it involves using your dominate hand to represent yourself as the adult you are and your non-dominate hand as the child you were. Using your dominant hand you write down something like, I know you’re in pain right now and Using your name, you ask yourself by writing down, what is going on? Then Using your non-dominant hand write down your emotions. There is a point to using your non-dominant hand because it looks like a child’s handwriting. Then Looking at the emotions that surfaced you use your adult hand (that knows the truth about where you are now) to comfort your child hand (that is bringing forth the emotions that are connected to the pain). Reframe the emotions with truth whether it be with God’s word/His promises, with facts such as Rev Cheryl said things like, You couldn’t take care of yourself then but you can take care of yourself now and then you’d list truths. If it was about money, it could be, I have a job, I have a bank account, I’m working toward financial independence. If it was about not having control then say, I have control over myself, I’m responsible for myself, I am learning to set boundaries, I have boundaries in place etc Things that speak truth over where you are today. To me, I thought it was effective using your hands because it gets you outside your head. I think that would be beneficial because sometimes you have so much emotion and overwhelm in your head that if you can make it external, it seems to help you isolate and sort through your emotions in that moment. It reminds me of the effectiveness of journaling as a way to purge your thoughts on paper, it gets everything you can list out of your mind and you can sort through it that way too. So in short, us the classical condition exercise to take what you’re believing based on your past and updating it with the truth of where you are today and where you’re headed, toward wholeness and healing. And even if your current answers for today (as the adult) are not in your favor with regard to healing and wholeness it gives you a starting point, it helps you pinpoint the fact you need to take action. One of the things we didn’t get a chance to talk about is that Rev Cheryl is an author of several books. Her stories are inspired from witnessing God’s redemptive grace in the messy reality of authentic life for Christian’s, including her own. In her stories she’s not afraid to address violent issues that many women find themselves in. Using realistic life situations she reveals the heart of God, His love, care, concern, ability to heal and restore despite the brokenness of this life. Be prepared to stop this audio along the way so that you can digest what she is sharing; which is practical advice and things you can immediately implement to move from being a victim to becoming victorious! Let’s listen in! Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk MORE PODCASTS AND/OR BLOGS ON SIMILAR TOPICS: Letting God Rewrite Trauma and Abuse, with LaShaundra Barnes: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/11/20/letting-god-rewrite-trauma-and-abuse-with-lashaundra-barnes/ Breaking Cycles of Abuse and Trauma, with Lindsey Smith: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/07/31/breaking-cycles-of-abuse-and-trauma-with-lindsey-smith/ Heal from Childhood Abuse, with Virginia Jones: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/03/01/healing-from-childhood-abuse-with-virginia-jones/ CONNECT WITH REVEREND CHERYL: Website: https://revcherylkincaid.com/ BIO: Reverend Cheryl Kincaid is a Presbyterian Minister who studied Marriage and Family Therapy at Bethel Seminary and has a Master of Divinity from San Francisco Theological Seminary.  Reverend Kincaid is a prolific author of five books, Hearing the Gospel Through Charles Dickens A Christmas Carol (which is the winner of the 2013 Independent Christian Publishers Illumination Reward for bible study), The little Clay Pot, The Little Candle That Was Frightened of the Dark, Karrie's Thorn and A Forgotten Door Called Home.  Rev. Kincaid seeks to tell the story of God’s comforting redemptive grace in the midst of an imperfect world. Rev. Cheryl Kincaid has twenty years of experience in Christian ministry, and she confesses that many of her stories were inspired from witnessing God’s redemptive grace unfold in wounded Christian’s lives, including her own.  Visit her website at Pastor Cheryl Kincaid's website to hear her sermons and hear more about her other books at https://revcherylkincaid.com/. To read about Rev. Kincaid's inspiration for writing Hearing the Gospel Through Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol visit her website http://www.dickensandchristianity.com/ and read about Charles Dickens' faith journey.

SUMMARY: *Anita shares her personal journey of facing an unplanned pregnancy at 17, navigating the emotional turmoil of telling her pastor father and the challenges of societal expectations. *Raised in a loving Christian family, she struggled with feelings of shame and the weight of her decision regarding her pregnancy. *After much prayer and reflection, she chose to place her child for adoption, believing it was in the best interest of her baby. *Throughout her experience, she highlights the importance of relationship over rules, the unconditional love of God, and the grace she received from her family and church community. *Anita emphasizes the significance of seeking God and the transformative power of sharing her story, which ultimately led her to start a ministry focused on helping others connect with God through His Word. *Her first-hand experience illustrates themes of love, redemption, and the importance of trusting in God's plan during difficult times. PODCAST INTRO: Have you ever struggled with God over a problem that is very heavy and even traumatic? Maybe it’s a consequence from a choice you made or maybe it is a problem someone created for you (based on their choices). Either way, you’re faced with a difficult decision. My guest, Anita Keagy shares about her unplanned pregnancy at 17 and the all the different ways that God met her in her circumstance. Anita’s family had always provided a strong foundation of faith in Christ and they pointed her to Him again when she needed clarity, answers, direction, forgiveness. As you’ll hear in her story, God was ahead of her need beginning with a relocation. God had already stirred her pastor father to look for a church in Lancaster, PA. Her father was offered a pastoral job so they had just recently moved when Anita discovers she’s pregnant. The church that the Lord placed them in welcomed them with kindness and the desire to help them. It was a church family and environment that would be supportive to a new pastor and his family including an unwed 17 year old pregnant daughter. When Anita asked God what was best for her baby she felt she’d heard clearly that adoption was to be her choice. Even after making the decision she felt God was leading her toward, as her belly grows and she begins to feel the baby move, she second guesses whether it was God she heard or herself. Have you ever been there? Trying to discern whether you heard God right, did He really say that? I think that question is as old as the Garden of Eden. It’s that struggle where we’re asking/wondering, was that your voice God or my internal voice? As we all know, adoption does not end with a decision. This is an issue of the human heart and there is a lifetime ahead both for the mother and the child. Anita points out her concerns about creating abandonment and rejection issues for her daughter. Even though she had prayed and requested a Christian family for her daughter, Anita still had anxiety wondering if her little girl was safe, loved, protected. In the delivery room, Anita had only heard her daughter cry, she did not get to see her nor hold her so Anita’s heart ached to meet the baby that had changed her life. She so desired to learn more about her. In our conversation, you can tell that Anita’s heart was broken but she held on to hope that God would one day allow a reunion and Anita would actually meet, touch, hug her daughter, hear her daughter’s voice once again. There are many precious moments that Anita shares but the one that stood out to me was the exchange that she and God had in a quiet moment together and God speaks into her spirit about His longing for the orphan hearts of the children that He desires to adopt and even those who have professed Him as their Savior but have yet to make Him the Lord of their life through reading His word, talking with Him and creating intimate relationship. As God speaks into Anita’s spirit, the revelation that God shares is a pivotal moment in her life and her ministry is born. She has an incredibly hope filled heart to model and equip, in a simple way, how to engage the heart of God, pursue Him and grow in intimacy. Listen in to hear how God walked with Anita in the midst of her unplanned pregnancy. Learn what is was like for Anita to finally meet her daughter. And to me, the cherry on top of it all, the beauty of God’s ability to use the pain of Anita’s broken heart yearning for her daughter and exchange it for something far more beautiful than Anita could think to ask for. That’s our God; to take the pain of this life, dismantle it with His truth and His love, repurpose it and bring beauty! A true beauty for ashes story. Let’s listen in! Lived Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk OTHER PODCASTS AND/OR BLOGS ON THIS TOPIC: Healing And Blending Families Through A Surprise Adoption X2 with Jennifer Uren: https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/05/26/adoption/ (Blog) A Mother’s Day Wish for You (this includes the precious mommas who chose adoption): https://alifeofthrive.com/2019/05/12/a-mothers-day-wish-for-you/ CONNECT WITH ANITA: Website: https://www.joyshop.org/ Book Link: https://www.joyshop.org/shop Free 21 Day Challenge: https://www.joyshop.org/21-day-challenge BIO (as seen on her website joyshop.org/about)  Anita Keagy founded JoyShop Ministries in 2006 with one simple mission: To inspire people to spend time with God every day through Bible reading and prayer. Since then, she has traveled nationwide and internationally, sharing her message of seeking God first each day as the key to abundant life and joy. Thousands of people have heard and responded to her dynamic message at conferences, retreats, school chapel settings and churches. With a compelling story of how God used a very difficult situation in her life for His glory, Anita shares candidly how she became pregnant as a teenager – all the more “scandalous” because she was a preacher’s daughter – and made the difficult choice to place her daughter for adoption. Although she never had the privilege to see or hold her child, Anita never stopped yearning to know her first-born daughter, even as she married and had four more children. Through a file of letters and the help of her adoption agency, Anita finally met her firstborn 21 years later. God used Anita’s own desire to know her child to impress upon her how much He wants to know His children – us! With that knowledge, a ministry was born that is now thriving and impacting lives every day. Anita is the author of, “The File: A Mother and Child’s Life-Changing Reunion.” Her motivational 6 session DVD series, “Seeking God First,” has encouraged and challenged those who long for a deeper relationship with God. Her DVD, “Letters to an Unknown Daughter” is her personal testimony of motherhood, hope, and healing. Her book and DVD series, along with additional supportive materials, can be purchased on her website. Anita Keagy lives in Washington Boro, Pennsylvania, with her husband Paul. She is the mother of 5 adult children, and 11 grandchildren. She attended Messiah College and received training from both Kay Arthur, of Precept Ministries, and Anne Graham Lotz.

SUMMARY: *In this conversation, guest Kim Harr shares her journey through grief, loss, and trauma as a Christian woman who faced significant challenges in her marriage and personal life. *After 23 years of marriage and four children, she experienced difficulties that led to divorce, despite her strong commitment to her faith and the belief that marriage should last until death. *She shares a harrowing experience of being kidnapped and assaulted by her ex-husband and how she found God's presence during that traumatic event. *Kim discusses the emotional turmoil she faced, including feelings of disappointment and shame, and how she sought counsel and support. *The conversation also touches on the importance of forgiveness, healing, and the presence of God during difficult times. *Kim emphasizes that healing is a choice and involves navigating through various emotions, including anger and sorrow. *Throughout the discussion, Kim highlights the significance of community, the process of reclaiming joy after loss, and the importance of setting boundaries. *Her book, "Healing from Life's Deepest Hurts," offers tools for readers to find their own healing. *Kim closes the conversation with a message of hope, emphasizing that no story is too broken for God to heal and restore, encouraging others to trust in God's plan for their lives. PODCAST INTRO: What happens when your dreams of a fairytale marriage, a Prince Charming husband and living happily ever after come crashing down around you? Kim Harr, a woman of faith diligently sought God’s heart for her marriage and pressed Him for His ability to make all things new and yet her marriage ended in divorce. By her choice. Author Kim Haar shares her personal story not only with divorce but the harrowing experience of her ex-husband kidnapping her, assaulting her for 4 hours and then shooting her boyfriend Andrew, 10 times. Initially when Kim was trying to make her marriage work she shares that while she and her husband attended marriage counseling there were many times when she felt lost and unsupported and that’s what motivated her to work toward and achieve her license as a professional therapist. Today she’s helping women become the best version of themselves and she’s super passionate about helping women get “unstuck” from the things they may not be able to put a finger on yet but they do realize there’s a disconnect. Once a victim, Kim now walks in victory and that is what lead Kim to write and publish her book, Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts - Reclaiming Your Life After Grief, Loss, or Trauma. She shares her personal story in much more detail than we have time for in this podcast episode and she also gives the reader tools so they can initiate their own healing and wholeness in their personal story. If you find yourself facing a divorce or in the aftermath of divorce, listen to Kim because not only does she remind you that you are not alone, she’ll help you navigate the painful terrain of what can feel like a shameful failure. If you’d like more wisdom and discernment for the journey, you can check out her book (links below) or you can reach out to her using her contact info (as seen below). Side Note: When Kim is talking about her ex-husband shooting Andrew we leave you hanging. I didn’t mean to do that! ’m sure it was because Kim and I had already talked so I knew how it turns out and therefore could easily focus on other aspects of Kim’s message. Do know that at the end we come back to Andrew and let you know how that all turned out. You could fast forard to the end but you’d miss so much deep wisdom that Kim shares along the way. So hang in there because Kim does tell you what happened not only with Andrew but brings us up to speed on her life. Let’s listen in to find out that there’s no story so broken that God cannot heal it! Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk Other podcast episodes and/or blogs on this topic: *Making Marriage Healthy with Marriage Counselor, Leslie Davis: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/11/08/marriage-healthy/ *Christian marriage, Abuse and Boundaries, with Stephanie Jordan: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/04/12/christian-marriage-abuse-and-boundaries/ *A Porn Free Marriage is Possible with Rosie MaKinney: https://alifeofthrive.com/2022/05/11/porn-free/ *Healing for Male Sexual Abuse Survivors with Dr. Kelli Palfy: https://alifeofthrive.com/2022/03/30/male-sexual-abuse/ CONNECT WITH KIMBERLY: Website: https://kimberlyhaar.com/ Podcast: Keeping It Real: https://kimberlyhaar.com/podcast/ Purchase Her Book (link is on the page near the bottom): https://kimberlyhaar.com/healing-from-lifes-deepest-hurts-book/ BIO: Kimberly Haar is a licensed therapist, author, and speaker with nearly two decades of experience in trauma recovery and marriage and family therapy. Blending clinical insight with deep faith, she helps others move from pain to purpose. Drawing from her own story of healing, Kimberly shares a message of hope and restoration, reminding others that with God, no story is too shattered to be rewritten, and no life too broken to be beautifully restored.

SUMMARY: - The conversation is centered around Lisa Espinoza's experience with child loss, focusing on her son, Chandler.  - Lisa shares that Chandler was adventurous and lived life fully, participating in various activities and sports.  - Chandler had a philosophy of life and was deeply affectionate and protective of others, never meeting a stranger.  - Lisa recounts the tragic accident that led to Chandler's passing and the subsequent 18 days of struggle before his death on January 1, 2019.  - The grief process for Lisa involved accepting the loss, processing pain, adjusting to life without Chandler, and maintaining a connection with him.  - She emphasizes the importance of not minimizing grief and allowing oneself to feel all emotions, including anger and sorrow.  - Lisa discusses honoring Chandler's memory through writing a book and helping others who have experienced similar loss.  - She finds joy in simple moments and believes in the possibility of joy coexisting with grief.  - Lisa encourages others to accept help from friends and community and to remain open to moments of joy.  - The conversation concludes with a focus on finding purpose and meaning after loss and the importance of inviting joy into one's life. PODCAST INTRO: Guest, Lisa Espinoza is an author, coach and a speaker. She stops by the show today to share her personal story of child loss, grief and finding joy even in the midst of great pain. The process of grief is as different as the person it comes upon but none-the-less we can find incredible value because shared story is how grieving hearts find encouragement. Child loss is an indescribable pain that no parent wishes to be part of. For Lisa, the loss of her son Chandler was a life-altering event that reshaped her world in countless ways. Lisa shares a heartfelt conversation of her experiences, providing us with a glimpse into a love that will never end coupled with the grief that accompanies the loss of a child. Her story is one of resilience, hope, and the unwavering belief in the power of connection both with having Christ as your foundation and staying connected to life by way of offering practices of remembrance whether that be spontaneously and deliberately. You’ll hear Lisa’s reflection on Chandler’s adventurous spirit, the kind of person who embraced life with open arms and an open heart. Chandler was one of the four children that Lisa and her husband have (and I do say have because the fact that Chandler is their son will never change)…, a son who brought joy and chaos in equal measure (If you’re raising boys you’ll know exactly what she’s talking about when she shares those examples). You’ll definitely see that Chandler lived life to the fullest. The journey of grief is a roller coaster ride at best, yet it is also a testament to the strength and resilience of the human spirit. Lisa's approach to grief involved reclining in the Lord and trusting Him to be with her through the dark valley. With God beside her, she decided to embrace the pain and allowed herself to feel deeply. She talked about other healthy ways of processing emotions and pain whether through counseling, writing, or simply sitting with the emotions; maybe with trusted friend who can bear that type of weight (in a healthy way). By accepting the loss and finding ways to adjust to a world without Chandler, Lisa not only finds encouragement for each day but peace and dare I say it (in this context of grief), she finds joy that honors her son's adventurous spirit. In her quest to find meaning amidst the sorrow, Lisa found purpose in helping others navigate their grief (her coaching services). Her writings, initially shared on a blog, became a source of comfort for many, offering a candid and raw portrayal of her journey. Through her words, Lisa provides a lifeline to those who feel isolated in their pain, reinforcing the knowledge that they are not alone. Because of the response she was receiving from her blog posts, she decided to published her story and it is now available to anyone who would love to be encourage (link below). Her story is a powerful reminder that even in the darkest moments, the possibility of joy and connection can light the way forward. Lisa Espinoza's story is a poignant testament to the enduring power of love and the human capacity to heal and find meaning amidst profound loss. Her journey through grief is a beacon of hope, showing that even in the face of unimaginable pain, you are never alone and you can trust God to know the way through. Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk Connect with Lisa: Website: https://www.lisaespinoza.com Her books: First, Brush Your Teeth—Grief and Hope in Real Time: https://www.lisaespinoza.com/first-brush-your-teeth Days of Whine and Noses—Pep Talks for Tuckered Out Moms FB - https://www.facebook.com/lisachandlersmom IG - https://www.instagram.com/lisa.espinoza/ BIO: Author and speaker Lisa Espinoza is a trusted companion to others along their journeys of grief. In her book First, Brush Your Teeth—Grief and Hope in Real Time, Lisa shares with raw honesty the story of losing her youngest son Chandler and reminds us that hope and joy are possible, even after the greatest heartache and loss. OTHER BLOG POSTS AND/OR PODCAST EPISODES ON THIS TOPIC: *A Deep Dive of the Soul After Child Loss, with Bridgett Dunbar: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/07/03/a-deep-dive-of-the-soul-after-child-loss-stillbirth-with-bridgett-dunbar/ *Finding Peace and Comfort After the Death of Her Son, with Alicia Hodges: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/08/30/finding-peace-and-comfort-after-the-death-of-her-son-alicia-hodges/ *Surviving Grief and the Death of Her Daughter, with Carole Sluski: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/03/15/surviving-grief-and-the-death-of-her-daughter-with-carol/ *Hope Reger and The Death of Her Son: https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/12/22/hope/ LISA MENTIONED THESE BOOKS: Lisa spoke of 3 books that she found great comfort in. You can find these books on Amazon and many other sites that sell books. (I do not get any compensation should you purchase): Healing after Loss by Martha Hickman Lament for a Son by Nicholas Wolterstorff The Choice, by Edith Eger

PODCAST INTRO: I enjoyed my time with guest, Liz Fiedler Mergen. She’s a remarried widow, mother of 2 daughters and has a multi-layered business strategy that encompasses several businesses. To me, it is all rooted and balanced with her fearless entrepreneurial creativity. Liz and I agree that grief changes you in countless ways and as much as we may want things to go back to the way they were, they never will. How can they? We’ve lost a significant portion of our life. Liz and her first husband, Ryan met when she was 22, fell in love and married in 2014. They wanted a family and were blessed with their first daughter. But sadly, they would only have 6 1/2 years together. Ryan, at 39 years of age unexpectedly passed away at home, alone on his treadmill. To add more trauma to her shattered heart, Liz discovers that she’s pregnant one day after Ryan’s funeral. Not traumatized over being pregnant, but heartbroken that Ryan will never meet his daughter, nor will she meet her daddy and being a single parent was never in her life plans. One of the significant motivators of transformation for Liz was the realization that she could stay bitter or get better. She chose, get better. She engaged the hard questions, evaluated the cost of living angry and despite the pain, she pushed forward to discover that she isn’t afraid to draw new boundaries, set new standards and start new businesses. She’s exploring life, options, opportunities and breaking ground (personally/professionally) in countless ways. Liz has an encouraging perspective on finding her way through the pain, embracing new revelations of who she is as she grows through the various challenges and pain points with personal discoveries in all the many facets of her life. Listen in to find out that widowhood is not the final chapter in her story, my your story and even your story. Liz’s example gives us the courage to discover that there is even more to life because God is the author of our stories. He always has a plan and fulfilling your purpose has only begun. You’ve heard me say many times before…keep your eyes on God because He’s writing a much bigger love story, an overarching love story with you as the unique person He created you to be and Liz, with the life she is choosing to cultivate is a beautiful example of that. Let’s listen in and be encouraged today! Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk Here are some additional podcast episodes and/or blogs that pertain to finding God in our pain: Widows, Grief and Finding Hope, with Anne-Marie Lockyer: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/02/14/widows-grief-and-finding-hope-with-anne-marie-lockmyer/ Widower, Daniel Doolan Shares His Story of Love and Loss: https://alifeofthrive.com/2022/12/21/widower-daniel-doolan-shares-his-story-on-love-and-loss/ Widows and Financial Preparedness - Gayle O’Brien Blachura, CFP: https://alifeofthrive.com/2022/09/28/widows-and-financial-preparedness-gayle-blachura-cfp/ CONNECT WITH LIZ: Website: https://www.lizfiedlermergen.com/ Podcast w/Apple link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/flower-farmer-forum/id1674239699 Book Coming in March of 2026 - Learn more here: https://www.lizfiedlermergen.com/author IG: lizfiedlermergen FB: https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.weber.545 BIO: After six years of marriage, two days after our only daughter’s birthday, I lost my husband. The day after his funeral, I found out I was pregnant again.  Widowed and pregnant at 31 years old, I spent the first six months in a state of rage and anger, continuously growing more upset when people treated me like either a fragile flower or a bomb about to explode. After months of therapy, I learned to focus on the intention behind people’s words rather than get upset when they didn’t approach a situation how I wanted them to. Grief can be isolating, but we grievers can’t shut out everyone who says or does the “wrong thing”. One day, I decided to focus on the intention behind the sometimes poorly delivered sentiments because I realized if I ended every relationship when someone said the wrong thing, I would not have any friends left. I was glad they did not know what I was going through. Every day I wake up and say to myself, "I'm not going to waste the day being angry. That's not fair to Josh." It takes so much work. I know that anger is a normal part of grief. I can't control the way the world treats grievers, but I can control how I respond. My podcast, instagram account, book club, and other resources are all devoted to helping it be easier for others to grow through grief.

SUMMARY: The Challenge of Understanding - Kim and I acknowledge and discuss, that many Christians (me included) struggle to truly love like Jesus without feeling like they're compromising biblical truth with regard to the LGBTQ community, and Kim shares her journey with her LGBTQ child. It’s a genuine complexity to understand how to find balance and Kim sets the marker at the foot of the cross. Judgment vs. Discernment - Parts of the conversation focuses on the difference between judgment and discernment. Kim stresses the importance of building relationships and understanding individual stories because we can’t expect to be heard if we don’t first invest, aka listen. The Role of the Church - The conversation touches on the importance of allowing space for questions and struggles without fear of judgment or ostracism. Invite difficult conversations and differing viewpoints for the purpose of discovering and revealing God’s truths and His heart about the matter for both the one struggling with identity issues as well as the believer who may have a heart posture that God wants to bring a deeper revelation that aligns with His truth, love, character and nature. Embracing Both Faith and Love - As Kim reveals, it's possible to hold onto faith while loving an LGBTQ child. Kim emphasizes that understanding doesn't mean affirming every choice but involves listening, empathizing, and walking alongside them. Tools and Resources - Kim's journey led to the creation of resources like "Pride and Promises," aimed at helping families navigate these complex dynamics. Final Reflections - The conversation ends with a powerful reminder of God's scandalous grace — a grace that doesn't discriminate and a love that is unwavering. Kim's story is a testament to the transformative power of love and the importance of reflecting Christ's love in all interactions. We can lay down the weight of judgement, which enables us to share God’s truths without feeling responsible for the outcome and relax in the knowledge that the Holy Spirit is qualified to do His work. In navigating these challenging waters, may we all strive to embody the empathy, compassion, and love that Kim so beautifully advocates for. PODCAST INTRO: My guest is Kim Stlip and she is the founder of Pride and Promises, a beautiful ministry she created that equips believers to hold on to their Christian faith and their LGBTQ+ kids. But I want any parent listening to know, no matter how your child identifies you’ll find great wisdom in the biblical discernment that Kim shares. Kim doesn’t have any 3 letter adjectives behind her name or lofty degrees that declare her worthy but she is a mom with the courage to stand in the gap between God’s truth in the holy scriptures and God’s heart for humankind. Kim is motivated by the fact that many Christians struggle to truly love like Jesus without feeling like they're compromising biblical truth. When I think about the phrase of investing blood sweat and tears, surely Kim’s picture is next to that description…actually, any mom who has been willing to be the punching bag (my words not Kims) for truth in the very context of a broken world and their children trying to find their way in it. I want to share my personal take away from our conversation because I could really relate to every bit of the relationship aspect of our conversation and relationships beyond my children. I do not have children who struggle with same sex attraction but relationship (across the board) is hard, complicated and layered. I used to think that the hardest part of raising children was when they were young and I was trying to bend their will to the things that would bring them reward, benefit, health. In my heart I was trying to equip my sons to contribute to the world in meaningful, purposeful ways. But no one told me it would be more difficult when they were adults and you have to watch them struggle with the complexities of life as it gets weightier and responsibility after responsibility is added to their years. Here’s a quote from Kim “And the hard part is when we hold on so tightly to our right and your wrong, and we don't take one another's stories with empathy, then that's where we hold our fist up and we don't end up coming back together. And so you always diffuse anger with empathy and understanding. And truly, anger is almost always love disappointed.” That my friend hit me in the heart. I had a powerful reminder of the finished work of the cross when Kim brought us back to the cross….and it always comes down to this for any human being (and not just in the context of this topic, it’s all of humanity)….if the opportunity to have direct access to God again was going to be a possibility then it was necessary for Christ to go to the cross. For me, my sins. Imagine yourself as the only person alive and Christ goes to the cross for you. He endured the horrific process of crucifixion, the bloody, beaten beyond recognition, publicly stripped naked, disfigured in every way; and I’ve read some commentary that pointed out you would not have been able to tell if he was male of female.  When Christ hung on the cross He had no guarantee that any of us would choose Him. Now, God knows our heart, the condition/character/nature and because of that He knows which one of us will choose Him but that does not negate the fact that our gift of choice is still a real thing. He doesn’t man-handle our gift of choice. There’s enough evil in the world to see that He does not intervene with our ability to choose. In other words, He doesn’t remove that ability because we refuse to use it in a responsible, wise, healthy way but it is worth remembering He is capable of healing anything this broken world does to us via other peoples choices or the places we find ourselves in because of our own choices. Kim has such courage to have this delicate conversation pointing out that the core of where the conversation should be grounded is in the person of Christ versus where the church and most people, myself included focus on, and that is sexuality. I get it though, the world has made it a sexual issue but as believers we’re to look through the lens of God’s heart at the world around us. And that’s what Kim does at Pride and Promises. A wealth of information that is honest, straightforward biblical truth and presented with the same compassion that Christ provided for each and every one of us on the cross. As Kim and I agreed, at the foot of the cross is level ground for sinners. When you hear Kim’s heart behind her encouraging message, I hope that you have breakthrough in your personal life and personal relationships on every level. All of what she shares can be applied to any relationship we can experience because again, our conversations and heart motive should be grounded in the person of Christ. Let’s get into the beauty, the hope, and the heart of God by listening to what Kim has to share! Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk Other Episodes and Blogs that pertain to this subject of God meeting us in broken places: -Joining Jesus Christ In His Pursuit of Your LGBTQ Identified Child, with Melinda Patrick: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/08/28/joining-jesus-christ-in-his-pursuit-of-your-lbgtq-identified-child/ -No Longer in Bondage to Sexual Addiction, with Logan Hufford: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/07/17/sexual-addiction/ -Christian Mom Whose Child has Same-Sex Attraction, with Melinda Patrick: https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/05/16/same-sex-attraction/ -A Porn Free Marriage is Possible, with Rosie MaKinney: https://alifeofthrive.com/2022/05/11/porn-free/ Connect with Kim: Website: https://www.prideandpromises.com/ Free Resource - 31 Conversation Starters to engage your child after they come out: https://www.prideandpromises.com/conversation-starters Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61569053302851 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prideandpromises/ Kim's Bio: My sweet spot has always been in coaching and mentoring young women, moms and wives, offering encouragement and guidance through everyday life and its challenges. Driven by a profound dedication to my family, a gratitude for people, and a love for the one-anothers, my heart is to encourage other families in navigating the tangled up circumstances that don’t have linear solutions. We haven’t done it perfectly…read the blogs.   My favorite people are my husband, Pete, our son & two daughters, and the guys they took the names of and brought into our family. Beyond treasuring my family, I’m a curriculum and freelance writer, ministry volunteer, and fellow encourager.

SUMMARY: - The conversation centers around grief, faith, and healing, featuring Dr. Amanda McNeil, an associate pastor and counselor. - Amanda shares her journey, raised in a blended family and losing her father as a teenager, impacting her deeply and leading her to her current path. - She speaks on the intersection of the Bible and science in understanding grief, discussing her book, "Overcoming the Overcast: Navigating the Storms of Life with God." - The dialogue explores the concept of grief as a journey that can coexist with hope, emphasizing the importance of community and support. - They discuss the role of childhood perceptions and shame in shaping adult grief experiences, highlighting the need for honest engagement with personal stories. - The transformative power of God in grief is emphasized, with insights into how God’s presence can provide comfort and healing. - Amanda stresses the importance of allowing oneself to feel both joy and grief simultaneously, a duality that can aid in healing. - The discussion touches on identity shifts due to grief and how the church can better support those suffering. - Amanda’s book serves as a practical guide combining scripture, neuroscience, and personal insights to help navigate grief. - The conversation concludes with the notion that despite the storms of grief, the constant presence of God offers hope and healing.   PODCAST INTRO: Grief is a universal experience. As I’ve often shared with you, there are many types of grief so if you’re listening today and you haven’t lost a significant person but you’ve been separated from something that you held near and dear to your heart then you’ll be able to apply what Dr. McNeil shares in this message to your pain/your life. I say Dr. McNeil because she’s certainly earned her credentials but I found her to be so down to earth I caught myself addressing her as Amanda. Dr. Amanda McNeil, is mom, wife, counselor, pastor, speaker, and an author and I’ll share a little bit about her most recent book in just a minute. A Personal Journey of Grief and Faith Her journey with grief began at a young age after unexpectedly losing her father. And this personal tragedy began to shape her path, leading her to become a strong voice and advocate for those who grieve. The Interplay of Grief, Mental Health, and Faith During our discussion, Amanda highlighted how grief impacts mental health and how both the Bible and science provide insights into navigating this difficult journey. She emphasized the importance of understanding how grief can be traced through family history and how it affects us on multiple levels—emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. Story Work and Healing Amanda advocates for engaging in "story work" to process grief. This involves reflecting on our life experiences and understanding the narratives we've formed, often from childhood. By doing story work, we can identify and challenge lie-based beliefs that might be rooted in shame or guilt. The purpose for bringing those emotions to the surface is because now you have a target to work with in regard to healing and wholeness. Joy and Grief Can Coexist A common struggle in grief is reconciling moments of joy with the pain of loss. Dr. McNeil reassures us that experiencing joy does not betray our grief or love that was attached to our loss. Instead, it is part of the healing process, allowing us to live fully even amidst sorrow. Overcoming the Overcast As mentioned she’s an author and her latest book titled "Overcoming the Overcast: Navigating the Storms of Life with God," is her book that she describes as a “love letter” to those experiencing loss. It combines scripture, neuroscience, and counseling principles to provide a practical guide for navigating grief. She emphasizes that, like a storm, grief can feel overwhelming, but the "Son of God is still shining" above the clouds, offering hope and healing. Final Thoughts Grief is a complex journey, and faith can provide a powerful anchor. Whether through scripture, community, or personal reflection, finding ways to navigate grief with hope and resilience is crucial. Dr. Amanda’s insights remind us that while loss may be a part of our story, it does not define the entirety of our lives. If you’re in need of encouragement and hope today, listen in to receive the wisdom and guidance that Dr. McNeil offers those who are navigating the storms of grief and loss. Lived Loved and Thrive! @ALifeOfThrive.com Sherrie   EPISODES AND/OR BLOGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TOPIC: - Widows, Grief and Finding Hope, with Anne-Marie Lockyer: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/02/14/widows-grief-and-finding-hope-with-anne-marie-lockmyer/ - Pet Loss and Grief, with Pet Loss Grief Companion, Rachel Shirley: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/05/08/pet-loss/ - Joy in the Midst of Grief, with Author, Sonya Mack: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/05/08/pet-loss/ - Finding Peace and Comfort After the Death of Her son, with Alicia Hodges: https://alifeofthrive.com/2023/08/30/finding-peace-and-comfort-after-the-death-of-her-son-alicia-hodges/ - Scars (blog post by Sherrie Pilkington): https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/12/28/scars/ - It’s Always Been You (blog post by Sherrie Pilkington): https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/08/24/its-always-been-you/ - Suffering (blog post by Sherrie Pilkington): https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/09/21/suffering/   CONNECT WITH DR. AMANDA MCNEIL: - Website: https://www.amandacmcneil.com/ - Free Chapter to her newest book: https://www.amandacmcneil.com/free - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amandacmcneil/ - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/McNeilCoaching/ - Coaching with the McNeils: https://www.mcneilcoaching.com/   Bio: After losing her father tragically as a teen and later navigating infertility, Amanda learned how to lean into faith and has developed an authoritative voice of hope. Dr. Amanda McNeil is an author, counselor, and pastor from Orlando, FL. She is an expert in leadership coaching, and both premarital and grief counseling. Her first book released November 2024 as a #1 New Release on Amazon for the Christian Counseling and the Death, Grief, & Spirituality categories. She is an international speaker for leadership and mental health conferences and the cofounder of McNeil Coaching alongside her husband, Justin. She is a miracle mom and is mid at pickleball and is proudly millennial picking an oat milk latte over any other type of coffee.

Summary: *Ron Jones discusses treatment resistant depression (TRD), which occurs when multiple classes of antidepressant medications fail to provide relief. *TRD is described as a subcategory of major depressive disorder, unrelated to therapy but linked to the ineffectiveness of psychotropic medications. *Ron shares his personal experience with TRD, highlighting the frustration and discouragement of ineffective treatments and the lengthy process of testing medications. *He suggests that emotional and mental needs, when unmet, can lead to chemical imbalances, and treating only the symptoms without addressing underlying issues is insufficient. *Jones emphasizes the importance of understanding one's identity in relation to God, suggesting that misalignment can contribute to mental health issues. *He recounts a pivotal moment in a church service where he felt the Holy Spirit's guidance, leading to a significant change in his depression. *Jones discusses the role of community, vulnerability, and addressing lies or misconceptions about oneself as crucial steps in the healing process. *He advocates for the recognition of negative emotions as truthful indicators and encourages seeking the Holy Spirit's guidance for healing. *Jones stresses the importance of relational accountability and having supportive people in one's life to provide honest feedback. *He concludes by affirming the possibility of finding hope and new life even after experiencing deep depression, through a relationship with Christ and understanding one's true identity. PODCAST INTRO: My guest today, Ron Jones, is a pastoral counselor and mental health advocate and he stopped by to share his first-hand experiences and insights into his victory over treatment-resistant depression (TRD). This discussion touches on the complexities of living with TRD, the challenges of traditional treatment methods, and the importance of having a strong identity in Christ and growing in faith throughout the healing process. What is Treatment-Resistant Depression? Treatment-resistant depression is a severe form of major depressive disorder. Ron explained that clinically, it is defined as depression that does not respond to at least three different classes of antidepressant medications. Ron also shared that this condition is not merely about resistance to therapy but is specifically linked to the ineffectiveness of psychotropic medicines. The Struggle with Traditional Treatments Ron describes the frustration of navigating the medical system, which often prioritizes treating symptoms over addressing root causes. He likens the process to taking aspirin for a headache without investigating the underlying cause. He even pointed out that this approach can be disheartening, especially when medications take weeks to show results, if at all. A Journey of Identity and Faith Throughout his journey, Ron emphasizes the importance of understanding one's true identity. He believes that much of mental illness stems from a misalignment between who we are and who we perceive ourselves to be. For Ron, this journey of self-discovery was deeply intertwined with his faith, which provided a foundation and a source of hope. This foundation withstood 13 years of struggling AND also provided room for growth and intimacy with Christ as he searched how to get out from under his depression. As shared in then opening clip….Ron was desperately clinging to hope God and yet had no hope. Steps Toward Healing Ron offered practical steps for those struggling with depression: Evaluate Your "Have To's": Examine the non-negotiables in your life that might be contributing to your stress and consider whether they are truly necessary. Identify Primary Lies: Reflect on the negative emotions you feel most often and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the first time you felt this way. Listen for the Holy Spirit: Spend time in silence, asking the Holy Spirit, "What's We most important thing I could hear right now?" and be open to whatever answer comes without editing it. Something I added, only because I have to do this: when I’m seeking God for an answer I have learned that I need to write it down. It is very commen for me to forget the details of what He spoke into my spirit. If you want to add a #4: Write down what you hear the Holy Spirit speak into your spirit and refer to it as often as you need to. Conclusion Ron’s story gives us a deeper revelation about Treatment Resistant Depression because it’s from his personal experience; his 13 year battle to find relief. His faith, community, and self-reflection was instrumental in overcoming his TRD. While traditional treatments may fall short mainly because they’re go to is to fix things with medicine vs looking at a more holistic approach that would include a deep dive into one’s identity. So Ron's journey offers hope and encouragement to those facing similar struggles, reminding us that there is always a path to discovering the benefits of knowing the truth and having a stronger identity. Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive.com Sherrie Pilk With regard to the acronyms you’ll hear Ron use, here is what they stand for (this info is more current than the audio intro to this podcast episode): SSRIs - (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) are a class of antidepressants that help treat depression Sozo is a practice/method used by some Christian ministries to describe their approach to inner healing, which focuses on restoring broken relationships with God and healing past trauma (for more info check out sozo.org)  SNRIs - Serotonin-Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors PCP - Primary Care Physician BPD - Borderline Personality Disorder Resources along the same topic: Unrelenting Pain Known as The Suicide Disease (CRPS), with Darci Steiner -  https://alifeofthrive.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=9563&action=edit Autoimmune Disease, Pulmonary Fibrosis and Faith, with Sara Salazar - https://alifeofthrive.com/2021/09/01/autoimmune-disease/ Hope in the Midst of Chronic Illness, with Sara Willoughby - https://alifeofthrive.com/2025/01/01/hope-in-the-midst-of-chronic-illness-with-sara-willoughby/ Connect with Ron: Ron’s podcast w/his friend (Nick): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ron-and-nicks-best-friend-podcast/id1599899345 Amazon link to Ron’s most recent book - The Little Book of Forgiveness - The Pathway to Freedom: https://www.amazon.com/Little-Book-Forgiveness-pathway-freedom/dp/B0DYNXWKBW/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oljVyfzmkcvd-tRRqhc8qzcDCCeB-vKQpdasKmcPpGyLFkFehAMYradfiTGZARL3MVN6ar_YRewiXpEMrwt-ig.0u01g9j57uS-UD4NfXgrNw4IxQKkAQYxAoW0rJG8AV0&qid=1743803194&sr=8-1 Ron’s Bio: R. Kenward Jones is a disruptive teacher, writer, podcaster (who isn’t these days?), counselor, husband, father and grandfather.  He holds a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering and master’s degrees in biblical studies and counseling.  His debut novel, Buried at Sea, was published by Penmore Press in 2022.  Daily, he writes proverbs, parables and prayers and shares them on his Facebook page and website to inspire and encourage. R. Kenward Jones is a US Navy veteran and served as both an enlisted man and officer for 12 years before he left the military to become a pastor.  After a 13-year long bout with treatment resistant depression he left the ministry to reset his life.  He knows the Valley of the Shadow of Death and the power of personal Creativity as the way through it and out of it. Currently he works as a counselor and teaches the 515A “zero excuses” bootcamp at the local YMCA.  He and Tina, his high school sweetheart, have been married for 40 years, have two children and one grandchild, and live in Southeastern Virginia although they still consider the Shenandoah Valley to be their “home.”  R. Kenward Jones enjoys life and joy tempered by suffering and more than anything wants to help other sufferers experience the same.

Summary: * Leslie Brennan shares her personal journey of faith and resilience, focusing on her experiences with loss and uncertainty. * She discusses her family dynamics, including blending families and dealing with her husband's past drug addiction. * Leslie recounts the initial shock and self-blame she felt upon discovering her husband's addiction. * She describes the challenges of handling financial instability and maintaining family life during her husband's addiction and subsequent recovery. * Leslie emphasizes the importance of faith, prayer, and support from her family and community in overcoming life's challenges. * She details the process of moving from questioning God’s plans to embracing His purpose for her struggles. * Leslie's story includes significant health challenges her family faced, including her husband's motorcycle accident leading to amputation and a subsequent stroke. * She explains how these experiences have strengthened her faith and relationship with God, highlighting moments of divine intervention and grace. * Leslie shares her journey through therapy and healing, discovering her self-worth and identity in Christ. * She is now focused on sharing her story to help others, writing a book, and engaging in public speaking to inspire and encourage those facing similar challenges. PODCAST INTRO: In the face of life's most challenging storms, it's often the faith journeys of resilience that inspire us to keep moving forward. Leslie Brennan's journey, as shared on this podcast episode, paints a vivid picture of how faith in the God of the Holy Bible, His grace, and our perseverance/our faith can transform even the darkest moments into a testament of hope and healing. A faith journey that transformed Leslie's heart, her perspective and her future as she transitioned from, “Why God!” to “How can You use this God?” Embracing the Unexpected Leslie's story begins with the revelation of her husband's drug addiction, a discovery that initially left her questioning her own role in the unfolding chaos. The initial blame, filtered through past trauma, led her to believe she was somehow responsible for the turmoil. However, it was through this painful revelation that Leslie began to see the bigger picture: a journey of faith that would lead her from self-blame to a deeper understanding of God's purpose and His extravagant love. A Journey of Faith and Healing Leslie emphasizes the importance of not abandoning faith, even when life's challenges seem insurmountable. Her husband's addiction, his process to overcome his addiction…and later, separate from any addiction issues, his motorcycle accident that resulted in the loss of his leg, these were pivotal moments that tested their marriage and her faith. Then two years after the motorcycle accident her husband suffers a debilitating stroke brought on by an undetected fragmented bone that prohibited blood flow. Yet, it was through these trials that Leslie witnessed what she describes as "God's extravagant grace." The Power of Vulnerability and Sharing One of the most powerful aspects of Leslie's story is her willingness to be vulnerable and share her journey with others and her story serves as a reminder that our past mistakes and current struggles do not define us; rather, they become a part of the larger narrative of redemption and grace as God brings us inner healing, clarity and purpose to our lives.  A Testament to God's Grace Despite the challenges and heartaches, Leslie has emerged with a stronger faith and a renewed sense of identity. Her journey from questioning "why" to embracing "how" God will use her experiences for good exemplifies a profound shift in perspective that many of us strive for. As she continues to navigate life's uncertainties, Leslie's faith remains her anchor. Her story encourages us all to seek God's presence in our own trials and trust that He is writing an overarching love story with us, one of redemption, healing, purpose and hope. In sharing her journey, Leslie invites us to reflect on our own lives and consider how we can find grace and strength in the midst of our personal storms.  Listen in and discover Leslies’ message that God uses every painful moment because no matter how dark the night, in God’s hands there’s always a breakthrough—a new beginning filled with the promise of God's unwavering love and grace.  Live Loved and Thrive! Sherrie Pilk Additional Blogs and/or Podcasts That Are Similar to This Topic: Navigating the Journey to Spiritual Maturity, with Dr. Sheila Jackson: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/09/11/navigating-the-journey-to-spiritual-maturity-with-dr-sheila-jackson/ Healing is a Journey and You’re Worth the Trip, with Taleah Pletzer: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/12/18/healing-is-a-journey-and-youre-worth-the-trip-taleah-pletzer/ Spiritual Disciplines Can Heal and Transform, with Healey Ikerd: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/06/19/spiritual-disciplines/ Turning Chaos Into Purpose, With Noah Asher: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/03/13/turning-chaos-into-purpose-with-noah-asher/ Connect with Leslie: Website: https://lnk.bio/lesliebrennanspeaks Email: leslie@targethomegroup.com Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/gracetogrowcircle/ Bio: Leslie Brennan is a passionate speaker, author, and Realtor® dedicated to helping others break free from past mistakes and step boldly into their God-given purpose. With raw authenticity and a powerful personal testimony, Leslie inspires audiences to embrace their true identity, overcome life’s obstacles, and walk confidently in faith. As a trusted Realtor® in Hampton Roads, Virginia, Leslie helps families find the homes where their next chapter begins—serving with compassion, integrity, and a heart for healing. Whether from the stage, in her writing, or across the closing table, her mission is the same: to bring healing, hope, and lasting transformation to those ready to rewrite their story.

The God of the Holy Bible has promised to never leave us nor forsake us. So when life becomes overwhelming we have the option to turn to Him and let Him be the support we need. Guest, Karen Dittman shares the insight she’s gained through her seasons of life on the hamster wheel. She knows that God meets on that wheel and she’s here to share the various ways we can do more than survive, we can thrive even in the midst of overwhelming situations.   Summary: - Karen Dittman discusses her journey of faith and personal growth amidst challenging life circumstances. - Of her two books, one focuses on the benefits of 7 minutes with Jesus, practicing gratitude and the other is a simple yet life changing perspective on wellness from a biblical perspective, introducing concepts like the Grace Cycle. - Karen's life was profoundly impacted by her daughter's addiction, which led her to seek a deeper connection with God. - She describes feeling overwhelmed during a difficult period, likened to being on a "hamster wheel," with multiple personal and family challenges. - A pivotal moment was when she learned to surrender control and place her daughter "on the altar," trusting God's plan for her. - Karen emphasizes the importance of experiencing God's presence in the midst of life's struggles, rather than seeking to change the circumstances. - Her journey led to a deeper understanding of God's love, transforming her perception of her own worth and identity in Christ. - She discusses the concept of the grace cycle in her latest book, promoting gradual, supportive changes rather than drastic overhauls. - Karen concludes by reassuring the audience that they are not alone in their struggles, as God is always present and ready to offer support and love. Podcast Intro: Karen Dittman, my guest on this episode, shares her journey through overwhelming personal challenges. I say overwhelming because in an by itself each one of these challenges could take its toll on any of us and Karen was juggling many of these life challenges at the same time. In Karen’s personal example she didn’t have the option to put life on hold, catch her breath and reengage. Life was coming non-stop, fast and furious and in serious ways. Serious responsibilities that included her husband and her children. She and her husband fostered and adopted, and after struggling years with infertility she’s surprised with a bio child at 47 (God has a sense of humor right!). She discovers that her adult daughter is struggling with addiction, and Karen has walked through other challenges with her children, things like anxiety, ADHD, autism. Rather than delve into each one of these areas we touched on a couple but I thought it important to discover how did Karen learn to lift our head under the weight of everyday life. I want to know not only how she survives but actually thrives. What did she discover about Jesus in the midst of what she terms as life on the hamster wheel? Life can be very chaotic and I loved the way Karen pursed the heart of God for a practical solution that met her where she was at. She discovered that God cares about the hamster wheel and that He had solutions and practices that would keep her tethered to His heart, walking His pace and staying in grace, peace and true joy. We talked about her book: Thriving in Grace: Unleashing Wellness from a Biblical Perspective. I found great value in the Grace Cycle. A process for change that focuses on acceptance, small steps to turn things around and celebrating progress. The Grace Cycle is so simple and yet life changing. I scratch my head sometimes. How is it that I overlook the power of Christ’s simplicity. There are often times when the simplicity of God is my stumbling block to breakthrough! Also, Karen has a spiritual discipline of spending 7 minutes with Jesus throughout the day. I knew immediately the value of this because when I am intentional about making this a priority to my day I’m refreshed, I have clarity and I’m motivated. So I loved this reminder. She gives us great info on the benefits of 7 minutes with Jesus and how she practices that but she goes into greater detail in her book The Fruit of Gratitude: Cultivate a Thankful heart of Experiencing God’s Goodness. Karen’s ability to find peace and purpose through pain serves as a beautiful inspiration for those of us facing similar challenges, offering hope and practical guidance for deepening one's relationship with God. That my friend, intimate relationship with our Creator enables us to lift our head under the weight of life in its most crushing seasons. Let’s listen in so that we might discover how to live loved and thrive in the midst of the overwhelming seasons of life! Live Loved and Thrive! @alifeofthrive. com Sherrie Pilk   Additional Podcast Episodes/blogs related to this topic (overwhelm): Navigating the Empty Nest with a Healthy Mental Well-being with Dr. Mel Tavares:  https://alifeofthrive.com/2025/01/29/navigating-the-empty-nest-with-a-healthy-mental-well-being/ Letting God Rewrite Trauma and Abuse, with LaShaundra Barnes: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/11/20/letting-god-rewrite-trauma-and-abuse-with-lashaundra-barnes/ A Caregiving Season with No Regrets, with Rayna Neises: https://alifeofthrive.com/2024/12/04/a-caregiving-season-with-no-regrets-rayna-neises/   Connect with Karen: Website: https://karenadittman.com/ Amazon Book Links: Thriving in Grace: Unleashing Wellness from a Biblical Perspective: Amazon Link Bringing Grace Home: A Bible Study Companion to Thriving in Grace: Amazon Link The Fruit of Gratitude: Cultivate a Thankful Heart by Experiencing God's Goodness: Amazon Link