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From teaching the fundamentals to chasing peak performance, Shane Farmer has helped countless rowers become fully competent on the erg through Dark Horse Rowing. But Dark Horse didn’t begin with a grand plan—it started when Shane, then a Concept2 Master Instructor and CrossFit coach, couldn’t find the rowing content he wanted online and decided to make it himself.
Today, he’s balancing work and family life, and rowing with San Diego Rowing Club. We stole some of his time for a wide-ranging conversation about seeking direction and discovering rowing, embracing the suck, the evolution of indoor rowing coaching, building Dark Horse, and plenty more.
GUEST
Shane Farmer, Founder of Dark Horse Rowing
IG: @darkhorserowing
FB: /darkhorserowing
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QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Introduction
02:44 - Welcome
04:10 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10: 5 (post-summer / pre-HOCR training valley)
06:37 - The Huddle
08:01 - Hot Seat Q&A
11:22 - Rowing origin story: seeking “The Thing” and embracing structure
21:29 - Doubling down and committing with a focus on IRAs; and perspectives on post-college elite and masters rowing
24:23 - Cross training with CrossFit before it was cool
25:08 - Why CrossFit erg technique was “so bad,” and why Shane started coaching and stopped trying to convince CrossFitters to love rowing
28:20 - For the rowing curious, Indoor rowing can be a “gateway” to on water rowing, but shouldn’t be the focus
31:10 - Coaching Concept2 Instructor seminar burnout when “ Nobody ever follows up. Ever. Ever.” and how that motivated Shane to found Dark Horse
37:29 - Creating content and building a YouTube channel
39:44 - Dark Horse: designed to help people become fully competent on the erg by lowering the barrier to entry
40:34 - How indoor rowing has changed and what it needs to succeed
44:42 - The future of Dark Horse
47:41 - A day in the life of Shane Farmer
49:43 - Best 20-minute workout?
51:20 - Just what is “steady state”?
53:25 - Peak power, programming zones, and performance
55:40 - Embracing the suck to learn where your red line is
59:07 - Join Dark Horse for Rowvember and check out their new app
1:02:32 - Head of the Charles
1:04:58 - Steady State Network news and notes: Coffee Chat, HOCR, Allies with Oars
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To see photos of Shane, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll.
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What happens when breast cancer survivors find their way into a boat together? At Recovery on Water, the answer is a powerful community where rowing becomes a source of strength, connection, and possibility. ROW gives breast cancer patients and survivors of all ages and all stages a chance to discover the physical and mental benefits of exercise alongside people who understand the journey—no explanations necessary.
We’re joined from Chicago by Executive Director Tara Hoffman, novice coach Shannon Short, and novice squad athlete Christina Bello.
GUESTS
Tara Hoffman, ROW Executive Director
Shannon Short, novice coach
Christina Bello, novice squad athlete
QUICK LOOK
0:00 - Introduction
02:14 - Welcome & The Huddle
03:51 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10
05:18 - The last time you did something for the first time
07:03 - Hot Seat Q&A
08:50 - Rowing Origin Stories
12:27 - What makes rowing so special for breast cancer recovery?
14:33 - The case for rowing with ROW for breast cancer recovery
18:08 - ROW programs and regatta opportunities
19:17 - Community building at ROW
25:26 - Being there for each other in hard times
32:20 - Power10 Camp
33:47 - The ripple effect of involvement with ROW
36:07 - Shannon’s rowing elevator pitch
36:49 - What YOU can do during Breast Cancer Awareness month
39:03 - Steady State Network news and notes: Coffee Chat, HOCR, Allies with Oars
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To see photos of Tara, Shannon, and Christina, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll.
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IG - @AllieswithOars
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It's Fall semester at the University of Wisconsin, 1984. The United States, just weeks before, had won the first-ever W8+ Olympic gold medal at the Los Angeles Games. And a 5’4” freshman named Yasmin Farooq walks on to the Wisco crew as a coxswain and wonders “Can I win an Olympic medal, too?”
More than 40 years later, this Olympic captain, world champion, and Hall of Fame coach continues to shape rowers and coxswains. Her influence is evident not only in championship trophies and Olympic medals, but in the athletes she has developed and the enduring excellence of the Washington women's rowing program, which she has helmed since 2017.
Yaz gets into it with us about the importance of skill development, tradition, student-athlete success, and the post-practice huddle.
GUEST
Yaz Farooq | Head Coach, women's program, University of Washington
IG: @Yaz_farooq
FB: /yasmin.farooq
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QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Introduction
4:15 - Welcome and The Huddle
5:12 - Side bar on a coach's life and Yaz's support staff
06:51 - Walk-on culture at University of Washington
08:01 - Hot Seat Q&A
11:46 - Walking on at Wisco within weeks of the US W8+ winning gold at the 1984 LA Olympics
13:21 - Coxing 101, moving beyond F-bombs, and asking “where is speed”?
18:02 - The coxswain’s role outside of the boat
20:00 - UW’s investment in coaching coxswains
22:24 - The life of student athletes: great performances coincide with good grades
24:02 - Building a collegiate program; adding to the legacy
26:50 - UW legacy and tradition: “throwing dubs,” Class Day, Cut paintings
30:40 - The importance (and dilemma) of the post-practice huddle
35:52 - Giving back: it’s about the next generation and accessibility for everyone
39:48 - Steady State Network news and notes: Coffee Chat, HOCR, Allies with Oars
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To see photos of Yaz and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll.
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Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber
It started with blasting tennis balls past the baseline and wanting to make frothy puddles from his single. And then a 12-year old Xeno Muller began to learn to focus his strength, passion, and rage. It led him to an undefeated college career at Brown, three Olympic appearances (including two medals), and more than 25 years dedicated to coaching rowers to find better technique, and more speed, on the erg.
When we sat down with Xeno, we expected to hear good stories, and insightful opinions. We didn’t realize just how deep the emotions would go.
GUEST
Xeno Müller
elite-rowing-coach.com
FB: /Xenorowingcoach
IG: @online_elite_rowing_coach
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Introduction
01:58 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10
03:07 - The Huddle
4:19 - Hot Seat Q&A
13:33 - It was a snowy morning when 12-year-old Xeno Müller first got into a boat on the Seine River in Fontainebleau, France
16:06 - At 16, Xeno’s life changed forever the day he met Swiss National Team coach Harry Mahon
20:10 - Coaching his Mom to a hammer win at C.R.A.S.H.-B. Sprints in 1992
22:48 - Leaving an undefeated Brown University crew to pursue Olympic gold in the 1x
25:16 - Mom sees him win at the 1996 Olympics
29:31 - Starting an indoor rowing studio in 2003 to support his family
33:26 - What we’re getting wrong on the erg
35:06 - “Ergs can float”
37:11 - Xeno’s evolving understanding of rowing
39:55 - On the growth of the sport of indoor rowing
41:02 - “The flat water rowing world is a bunch of anal retentive people who think they know it all…and that’s the limiting factor to the growth of the sport.” Plus why beach sprint and open water rowing could create a bridge
43:42 - The perfect stroke and Xeno describes his own “unbelievably fast” 1994 World Cup race in France
47:54 - Advice for Xeno’s younger self
49:25 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Xeno and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll.
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Explore why some of our best rowing experiences happen beyond our boathouses—and why seeking out new boats, waters, people, and challenges doesn’t have to mean leaving your club behind.
We share some of our own adventures outside the usual club routine, then talk with Rachel Egner, Jenny Withycombe, and Steve Littlepage about preparing for an independent row around Vashon Island, WA, on August 16. Because sometimes, keeping your love of rowing alive means getting out of your usual lane.
GUESTS
Rachel Egner
Member: Pocock Rowing Center, Allies with Oars, RowFi
Steve Littlepage
Member: Mount Baker Rowing and Renton Rowing Club
Treasurer: Seize the Oar Foundation
Jenny Withycombe
Women’s Captain: Willamette Rowing Club
Chair: USRowing’s Inclusion Community Impact Committee
This episode was made possible in part by RowSource and our Supporters.
QUICK LOOK:
00:00 - Introduction
01:06 - Welcome
01:55 - The Huddle
04:15 - Hot Seat Q&A
11:50- Thais's introduction to indoor rowing in the mid-00s and how coming to understand the data on the monitor gave her a purpose
13:39 - The organic development and growth of the ErgZone app
22:39 - Thoughts on the growth of indoor rowing since 2020
25:28 - Inclusion, accessibility
29:59 - Partnerships, being a woman in the tech space, and being female entrepreneurs
35:53 - Taking a cautious approach to AI
39:50 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Rachel, Steve, and Jenny, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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Steady State Podcast is a production of Steady State Network. It is hosted and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering, books show guests, and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel writes our scripts and e-newsletter, and manages the website and social media. Our theme music is Open Mind by Soundroll.
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SHOP SSN GEAR: www.steadystatenetwork.com/shop
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MAKE A DIFFERENCE: www.steadystatenetwork.com/support
CONNECT:
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IG - @SteadyStateNetwork
FB - /AllieswithOars
IG - @AllieswithOars
Connect on FB and IG with the hosts:
Rachel Freedman - @RowSource
Tara Morgan - @CmonBarber








