The Wine Times Mysteries

Happy new year, lizards! We're back and what a winding road of recording this episode twice, having the audio bork differently two times, and then going with the original recording because it was slightly less bad this has been. All worth it for the story of Candy Jones, a.k.a. Arlene Grant, model possible MK Ultra victim. Buckle up for hypnosis, secret missions, possible Winter Soldiering, and fry bits.Also, a lengthy ode to Alias, a recommendation for Only Murders in the Building, and ~tales of pregnancy~.Sources:Wikipedia article on Candy Jones: https://bit.ly/3r9z0kgScience Digest, "Hypnosis Comes of Age": https://bit.ly/3GqqoMzDonald Bain, "The Control of Candy Jones" (audiobook): https://adbl.co/3tvxoUVOZY, "Was this Blond Bombshell the CIA's Secret Weapon?": https://bit.ly/3fjG7kAUnrevealed Files, "Candy Jones: A Secret Agent of the CIA Mind-Control Program": https://bit.ly/3KbsiD6*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

The truth is out there and it is festive, y'all. It's Katy's turn and she has brought you some UFOs near Stonehenge that appear on Christmas morning, 1964 (and then a bunch of other times) - the story of the Warminster Thing! Is it just military drills from their nearby training area? Or is that what they WANT you to think?We check in with our PAs. MM is not ready to reenter society. Katy's been watching a lot of Desus & Mero. What do you think invisible fingers of sound look like? Everyone needs to watch Edge of Tomorrow. Yes, you. Happy holidays!Things Mentioned:The Loch Ness Monster: https://youtu.be/6aRrLKurmE8Apollo's Chariot: https://youtu.be/k11vWNqmICYEveryone needs to watch Edge of Tomorrow: https://bit.ly/3pnWmmDProject Hail Mary: https://bit.ly/3EiAJbySources:Mental Floss, "When the Warminster 'Thing' Terrorized a Small English Town": https://bit.ly/3J7HMY6Medium, "Mystery Box: The Warminster ‘Thing’": https://bit.ly/3mtIEwJ*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

MM has a doozy for you this week, lizards - buckle up for the story of Victim F, a.k.a. the Gone Girl kidnapping, a.k.a. the abduction of Denise Huskins and the absolutely awful way she and her boyfriend were treated by police.Hm. Where have we heard THAT before?Stay tuned for the end of the episode where we have an update on the David Stone Halloween Mystery! (No, it's not solved.) (Still cool, though.)PA Moxie is living her best life in Christmas packaging. Reese's trees have the best chocolate to peanut butter ratio, don't @ us. How many days would you last off the grid? Katy got her steps in this episode by storming around in rage. DO A LITTLE INVESTIGASCH! GOD!Sources:Victim F: From Crime Victims to Suspects to Survivors: https://bit.ly/3pYsdcC SFGate, "Bay Area 'Gone Girl' Denise Huskins believes some of her kidnappers got away": https://bit.ly/3s8J0MBABC News, "Survivors of Vallejo 'Gone Girl' case respond after police apologize for calling them liars": https://abc7ne.ws/3EYPPUENew York Post: "Real ‘Gone Girl’ accused of staging her abduction is vindicated at last": https://bit.ly/3q0zfNZSan Francisco Chronicle, "Review: Couple traumatized by crime set the record straight on Vallejo kidnapping": https://bit.ly/3dRcXZv Oxygen, "California Woman, Once Called The Real Life 'Gone Girl,' Receives Apology From Police": https://oxygen.tv/30tJ1zoPeople, "Terror & Betrayal: They Were Attacked, She Was Abducted - and Police Said It Was All Lies": https://bit.ly/3maJ5vsWIRED, "'Gone Girl' Suspect Confesses to Reporter—As FBI Listens In": https://bit.ly/33CBeAJNBC Bay Area, "Matthew Muller, Vallejo Kidnap Suspect, ‘Bipolar' and ‘Extremely' Smart, Friend and Lawyer Say": https://bit.ly/3GLUvxFABC News, "What the FBI Found In 'Gone Girl' Kidnapping Suspect Matthew Muller's Storage Locker": https://abcn.ws/3pX8VEl ABC News, "Inside the 'Gone Girl' Kidnapping: Zip-Ties, Nyquil and More Details From the California Break-In": https://abcn.ws/3ISEZSBABC 11, "Survivors of so-called 'Gone Girl' case reflect on the life-changing experience": https://abc11.tv/33CBKyF*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

How is it December?! Lizards, we recorded this one in a post-Thanksgiving haze, so in addition to the tale of Kaz II, the ghost yacht, get ready for opinions about gravy.Oh, right, we said ghost yacht. Further proof that you don't fuck with the ocean, back in 2007, the crew of the Kaz II disappeared with no explanation, in a way compared to the disappearance of the Mary Celeste's crew back in the late 1800s. We'll take a detour, don't worry.What's your opinion on gravy viscosity? Pre-order MM's biography, "Disheveled But Seaworthy," today. Take a drink whenever we give you a new reason to not go in the ocean ever. Movie corner! Since Katy just got around to seeing Rise of Skywalker, we have a timely Star Wars discussion. Our fingers are ON THE PULSE OF POP CULTURE, you guys. We also chat about Shang Chi and Hereditary.Sources:Kaz II on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3oEha98Mary Celeste on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3Gtxcc0The Guardian, "Australian coroner ends mystery of 'ghost ship'": https://bit.ly/3dAMU8MMedium, "Behind the Mystery of the ‘Ghost Yacht’": https://bit.ly/3DA1kApThe Paranormal Guide, "Kaz II Mystery": https://bit.ly/3oB2PtL*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Happy December, lizards! This week, MM brings you the winding tale of the "disappearance" of Tyler Hardy - brace yourselves for some twists! Turns! Etc.!Katy breaks MM's brain with a mushroom reference. "Hey, who wants to talk about some missing kids, now?" At what point when you're caught in a lie do you just give up? Also, hey, parents. Don't share pictures of your babies when they're still covered in WOMB BITS. This is a heartfelt tip from us to you. Production assistant Ollie takes a stand. Please lend us your child for one hour.Things mentioned:Sips By tea subscription (take $5 off your first box): https://bit.ly/3plGOi0Zadiko "Zach's Breakfast" tea: https://bit.ly/3dcJV64Sources:Daily Mail article: https://bit.ly/3G7Gn1lBBC One: Reporting Missing, Series 2 Ep 1: https://bbc.in/3GbiLsD (official page); https://bit.ly/3xMJby6 (video)*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

We're back with some spooky tales from the spookiest place on earth... Reddit. Katy and her scratchy voice went to r/letsnotmeet and found a few tales for MM to react to - do we believe they're real? Either way, let's not meet.There's a difference between people and FUCKING PEOPLE, you know what we mean? Also, if they say "stay on the trail," stay on the goddamn trail. Has no one read A Sound of Thunder, jfc. Don't play a drinking game with MM saying "noooope," you'll die. Katy will always assume there's a hillbilly that's going to hunt her. Pro tip from your millennial aunts: ALWAYS LOCK YOUR CAR DOORS. Also: don't be a Mike.Things mentioned:Zadiko tea: zadiko.com Staircases in the woods: https://bit.ly/3l7kzejSources:"I Was Told You Guys Over Here Might Like My Story": https://bit.ly/30T1PIe"I Bet There's a Body in the Trunk": https://bit.ly/3nN1ZKf"It Should Have Been a Beautiful Drive, But It Was a Trap": https://bit.ly/3r6SlEg"The Woman on White's Bridge (with pictures)": https://bit.ly/3r9paAE *******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

This week, MM brings us the tale of the only convicted witch in Virginia, Grace Sherwood, because spooky season is forever.But first, join us for millennial aunt advice corner, in which Katy espouses you should know thyself... and if you're not an entrepreneur. "A boner for land" is not a phrase we'd thought we'd ever say, but here we are. MM annuls our friendship yet again. Our arms are weak and our brains are smooth.(This was recorded before 2021 election results came in for both Virginia and Washington. Laugh at the hope in our voices. :|)Things MentionedToo Many Spirits ghost mug: https://bit.ly/3cpBELUChris Bohjalian, Hour of the Witch: https://bit.ly/3qMKeMRHades video game: https://bit.ly/3nyKUnnSourcesEncyclopedia Virginia, "Sherwood, Grace": https://bit.ly/3wYbucpAtlas Obscura, "The Witch of Pungo Statue": https://bit.ly/3oHtPa3Colonial Ghosts, "Grace Sherwood, the Witch of Pungo": https://bit.ly/3qMKwTX Virginia Museum of History and Culture, "Grace Sherwood, the Witch of Pungo": https://bit.ly/3Fs1FGEGrace Sherwood on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/30wVJxv*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Last episode was our birthday and this episode is our 50th! Cheers! For our 50th episode, Katy has two Washington-state stories that are spooky (Kell's Irish Pub) and spooky adjacent (the very tragic tale of the murder of Jennifer Bastian and how her ghost is reportedly seen in Point Defiance Park).We are, of course, ready as hell for the Animal Crossing update. We will give you our thoughts, of course. Katy had never really experienced Zak Bagans before researching Kell's and is truly, truly baffled by his whole... [gestures generally] thing. There's an unexpected connection to our Starvation Heights episode (#33)! The gum wall remains gross.SOURCESJennifer Bastian/Point Defiance ParkKing 5, "Man gets 27 years for cold case murder of Tacoma girl Jennifer Bastian": https://bit.ly/3mHXGiXJenny Bastian on the Unsolved Mysteries Wiki: https://bit.ly/3CIM84rOnly in Your State, "One Of The Most Haunted Roads In Washington, Five Mile Drive Has Had A Ghost For 34 Years": https://bit.ly/31tsjjUKell’s Irish PubGhostly Activities, "Kell's Pub, Seattle's Most Haunted Bar": https://bit.ly/3BLhUfPOnly in Your State, "This Haunting Washington Bar Used To Be A Mortuary, And You’ll Want To Visit": https://bit.ly/3k0TtFiSeattle Met, "Exquisite Corpses": https://bit.ly/2ZPTuo0Travel Channel, "Ghost Adventures: Kell's Irish Pub" (including the bit with the gum wall, blerg): https://bit.ly/3q5OMOkGhost Adventures - Zak Bagans interviewing the owner of Kell's: https://bit.ly/3wg8uYp*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Happy Halloween and happy birthday to our little pod! Thanks for joining us as we've learned what we're doing and getting in on how much fun we're having. Here's to many more! For our Halloween/birthday episode, MM brings us the spooky story of the disappearance of David Stone shortly after Halloween.We both conclude that we should live in caves... possibly with heated floors. Are you an elderly millennial that tortures themselves by browsing Zillow? Join our support group. El Paso, hit us up for all your marketing needs. BOOP, El Paso.SOURCESBillboard Hot 100 Chart for the week of 10/29/88: https://bit.ly/3bms4ZIUnsolved Mysteries Wiki, "David Stone": https://bit.ly/3jNGdDHThe Uproar, "The Disappearance of David Stone": https://bit.ly/3BmEo6DDavid Stone on Find a Grave: https://bit.ly/2ZAKseMThe Prescott Courier, "Questions Remain About Man's Death": https://bit.ly/3mpH6E0Mysterious Universe, "Strange Arcane Clues and the Mysterious Disappearance of David Stone": https://bit.ly/3vW8Wv6*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

SPOOKY SEASON continues on the Wine Times Mysteries, y'all! This week, Katy covers two more medical mysteries - the Oakville Blobs and the death of Gloria Ramirez, who has been dubbed the Toxic Lady, since several people treating her fainted and got sick. 1994 WAS A STRANGE TIME, OKAY? Contemplate your mortality~ Spooooky~Drinking game this week: every time MM says EW during the Oakville Blobs story, take a conservative sip of your drink. What would you do if weird jello blobs started raining down? Katy's brother should do marketing for Jell-O. When encountering a medical anomaly, make sure to account for the amount of smooth-brained women involved. Pro-tip: DON'T GOOGLE THESE, Y'ALL.Also, Katy got MM into Stardew Valley, so we're branching out from Animal Crossing corner. Be advised if this is a thing for you - because it was relevant to the discussion, Katy didn't cut out her bones snapping at the end of the episode. There are a few knuckle cracks. Bones ASMR ahoy!OAKVILLE BLOBSKXRO, "20 Years Later: The Oakville Blob": https://bit.ly/3vJk7apScienceFocus.com, "What were the ‘Oakville blobs’?": https://bit.ly/3njPTHcMedium, "The Blobs That Fell from the Sky": https://bit.ly/3aWQfh1TOXIC LADYDiscover Magazine, "Analysis of a Toxic Death": https://bit.ly/3ndOKkbWikipedia, "The Death of Gloria Ramirez": https://bit.ly/3aU80gSIFL Science, "The Death Of 'The Toxic Lady' Remains An Unsolved Medical Case": https://bit.ly/3lYjzd7*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

AND WE'RE BACK. Thank you for patience with Katy's hibernation and sorry for the unintentional cliffhanger - here's our resolution to the story of the Three Sisters in Black! Let's dig into what happened to poor Ocey Snead, the trial of her mother and her aunts, and the authorities trying to piece it all together.There are a lot of scams going on! Also, if you have a box full of money and proof of your scams, MAYBE don't leave it places. Also MAYBE don't have press conferences about all your crimes. CALL US SALVATORE.THINGS MENTIONEDScam Goddess Episode 48, "The Sha*n K*ing Episode with Ashley Ray-Harris": https://bit.ly/3mJflp6AP, "Judges: Florida felons can’t vote until they pay fines, fees": https://bit.ly/3oZjZSBSOURCESNorman Zierold, "Three Sisters in Black: The Bizarre True Case of the Bathtub Tragedy": https://amzn.to/3kADDlrHeather Monroe, "The Slow Death of Ocey Snead": https://bit.ly/3EMe3SgRoanoke Times, "Three sisters and their haunting history": https://bit.ly/3AyLIfV*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

We're headed back to the early 1900s with MM's story this week (spoiler alert: and next week!) with the story of the Three Sisters in Black - Caroline Martin, Mary Snead, and Virginia Wardlaw - and the many mysterious deaths surrounding them. Buckle up, y'all, this is the background part of the story and it is a doozy with ousin marriage, cashing in on suspicious life insurance policies, Kim Kardashian Met Gala vibes, and murder durdur.NOTE: At the beginning of the episode, MM and Katy are talking about the incredibly tragic Gabby Petito case. This was recorded before her remains were found and before any of the developments this week.THINGS MENTIONEDBlurriest Schmoojee: https://bit.ly/3EMD2FoCasey Cep, "Furious Hours: Murder, Fraud, and the Last Trial of Harper Lee": https://bit.ly/2XBmj6GSOURCESNorman Zierold, "Three Sisters in Black: The Bizarre True Case of the Bathtub Tragedy": https://amzn.to/3kADDlrHeather Monroe, "The Slow Death of Ocey Snead": https://bit.ly/3EMe3SgRoanoke Times, "Three sisters and their haunting history": https://bit.ly/3AyLIfV*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Katy watched the Circleville Letters episode of 48 Hours so you don't have to. Learn about the small town in Ohio that was terrorized by anonymous letters about town secrets, starting in 1976 and stopping in 1993. Hundreds of letters were sent, but the main target seems to be Mary Gillispie and her family. Also: two tiny internet mystery amuse bouches from recent times: the mystery celebrity on the early 2000s shower curtain and who didn't thank Mindy Kaling for an $1,800 dinner?What exactly does an $1,800 dinner entail? What did he and his family order? Was it super fancy steak? Lots of old scotch? Katy's obsessed with knowing. Aaaaaaanyway, who was the River Phoenix of 2000-2008? Please tell MM on Insta, @truecrimewine69. How would you trap someone, Elmer Fudd-style?THINGS MENTIONED:Penny Arcade sneeze comic from 2005: https://bit.ly/3tKML9NSOURCES:AMUSE BOUCHE 1: THE SHOWER CURTAINThe shower curtain with the source images for each person: https://imgur.com/a/ao0hWN3Close up on the mystery person: https://imgur.com/xx1QGAFAMUSE BOUCHE 2: MINDY KALING'S "MAX DAVIS" STORYThe story: https://bit.ly/3lycLSpTHE CIRCLEVILLE LETTERS48 Hours: https://cbsn.ws/3AfxAI5Thought Catalog, "The Creepy Letters That Exposed A Town’s Juiciest Secrets — And Ended In Murder": https://bit.ly/3Em5TjtListverse, "Top 10 Strange Facts About the Circleville Writer": https://bit.ly/3hFdDTVMental Floss, "The Mystery of the Circleville Letters": https://bit.ly/3C8lXn4*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

It's MM's turn at the wheel and she brings us the tale of the first televangelist in the U.S., Aimee Semple McPherson - her rise to prominence in the 1920s, and her strange disappearance and the circumstances around it. What do you think happened?We recorded this on Labor Day weekend where Katy resembled a burrito-eating gremlin and MM was eaten alive by bugs, so the energy is HIGH. We are not sponsored by the Bug Sucker(tm), but WE COULD BE. If we go missing in the ocean, please only mistake sexy mermaids for us. Not two dead seals. The pact is struck.THINGS MENTIONED:Bug Sucker: https://www.bugbitething.com/SOURCES:Smithsonian Magazine, "The Incredible Disappearing Evangelist": https://bit.ly/3yQnZ9iBBC, "The mysterious disappearance of a celebrity preacher": https://bbc.in/3lafBwsOxygen, "This Depression-Era Televangelist Was The Inspiration For Characters In 'Perry Mason' And 'Penny Dreadful: City Of Angels": https://oxygen.tv/3BUjMU1LA Times, "Home of the Week: Aimee Semple McPherson's castle in Lake Elsinore": https://lat.ms/3zZRLJZAimee Semple McPherson on Find a Grave: https://bit.ly/3E2oy3t*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Katy returns to her fandom roots this week with a tale of no-stakes internet drama: the tale of MsScribe and her rise and fall in the Harry Potter fandom. JK Rowling is trash, but the shenanigans the fandom got up to after the release of Goblet of Fire is DELICIOUS.But first! MM went on a road trip that was... something. Katy used to cosplay at anime conventions and write Sailor Moon fanfiction, so she feels qualified to talk about internet dramatics. MM and her brother share a love of Star Trek. Let's all have a Duncan Sheik renaissance. MM learns that fanfiction can be a dark place. PA Ollie weighs in.THINGS MENTIONEDBen Affleck talks about the Voyage of the Mimi on Jimmy Fallon: https://bit.ly/2V9vBWLDuncan Sheik, an Artist: https://bit.ly/3mWDo5ESOURCESCharlotte Lennox/Angua9, "The Ms. Scribe Story: An Unauthorized Fandom Biography" (the original expose): https://bit.ly/38CsObHEldena Doubleca5t, "Msscribe: The Harry Potter Fandom's Greatest Con-Artist - When Posting Goes Wrong": https://bit.ly/3jDNupYMs. Scribe on Fanlore.org's wiki: https://bit.ly/3zHFHx8*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

And we're back! MM's here with Part 2 of her story on the Order of the Solar Temple, where we do a deeper look into their origins and beliefs, as well as their two leaders, Joseph Di Mambro and Luc Jouret. There are a lot of bummers, you guys!Hey girl. Do you believe in past lives? If you did a past life regression, do you think you'd get a random dude? Who else was Di Mambro besides happening to be Jesus? Always question your woo woo shit, because there could be SECRET NAZISM when you get higher in the organization. THINGS MENTIONEDMy Brother, My Brother, and Me - Travis calls the Knights Templar: https://bit.ly/3t0HuLfSOURCESFilm Daily, "‘The Order of the Solar Temple’ is one of the creepiest cults ever": https://bit.ly/3lT9MWbOrder of the Solar Temple on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3fVwNnOCBC Digital Archive, "The gory details of the Solar Temple cult at Morin Heights": https://bit.ly/3AApkCtEncyclopedia.com, "Di Mambro, Joseph (1924-1994)": https://bit.ly/3yEyP32Luc Jouret on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3lX2FfGMichel Tabachnik on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3fYmNtRJames R. Lewis (editor), "The Order of the Solar Temple: the Temple of Death" (Google Books): https://bit.ly/3jM0CbqVoxSpace, "The Order Of The Solar Temple: The Suicide Cult That Shook The World": https://bit.ly/3m3xEX8MacLean's, "Twisted Legacy: Luc Jouret’s death ends one mystery": https://bit.ly/3AyO9i7Religioscope, "'Our terrestrial journey is coming to an end': the last voyage of the Solar Temple": https://bit.ly/3fVZeltToronto Sun, "SOLAR TEMPLE MASSACRE: Mystery endures 25 years later": https://bit.ly/3CG5M1uCults Podcast, Order of the Solar Temple/Joseph Di Mambro episode: https://spoti.fi/37yBLCnOrder of the Solar Temple Documentary: https://youtu.be/w2KrCctV8V0*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

A two parter? From MM? It's more likely than you think.MM's story this week is about a cult, the Order of the Solar Temple. In part one, she goes over the outcome of the story, where several events of mass death occur in 1994 and bring the Order into the public consciousness. The investigations into these deaths are MADDENING.But first, there's a ginger devil update. Once again, we establish that we are susceptible to good branding. Limber up your wincing muscles before listening. All hail Saint Hoogidihoo.THINGS MENTIONED:BTS Autocomplete Interview: https://youtu.be/qsobCAGiuRUSOURCES:Film Daily, "‘The Order of the Solar Temple’ is one of the creepiest cults ever": https://bit.ly/3lT9MWbOrder of the Solar Temple on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3fVwNnOCBC Digital Archive, "The gory details of the Solar Temple cult at Morin Heights": https://bit.ly/3AApkCtEncyclopedia.com, "Di Mambro, Joseph (1924-1994)": https://bit.ly/3yEyP32Luc Jouret on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3lX2FfGMichel Tabachnik on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3fYmNtRJames R. Lewis (editor), "The Order of the Solar Temple: the Temple of Death" (Google Books): https://bit.ly/3jM0CbqVoxSpace, "The Order Of The Solar Temple: The Suicide Cult That Shook The World": https://bit.ly/3m3xEX8MacLean's, "Twisted Legacy: Luc Jouret’s death ends one mystery": https://bit.ly/3AyO9i7Religioscope, "'Our terrestrial journey is coming to an end': the last voyage of the Solar Temple": https://bit.ly/3fVZeltToronto Sun, "SOLAR TEMPLE MASSACRE: Mystery endures 25 years later": https://bit.ly/3CG5M1uCults Podcast, Order of the Solar Temple/Joseph Di Mambro episode: https://spoti.fi/37yBLCnOrder of the Solar Temple Documentary: https://youtu.be/w2KrCctV8V0*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Katy gets very literal this week and brings us a wine-based mystery by covering the story of Rudy Kurniawan, the first person to be charged with wine fraud in the U.S, from the 2016 documentary, "Sour Grapes." Content warning: you're really going to hate rich douchebags during this episode, but since you probably already DO... let's get into it.It's MM's birthday (observed)! We return to France quite a bit with the documentary's hero, Laurent Ponsot, who is officially offered a hosting gig here with us (call us, Laurent). MM cannot believe no one in the wine scene verifies ANYTHING. We do not recommend taking a drink everytime she sighs in incredulity or says "oh, fuck off." This may cause BODILY HARM. Do not accept an invitation to a wine bathroom. If you're gonna do crime, PROOFREAD YO' SHIT.Sources/Things MentionedSour Grapes documentary: https://bit.ly/2WW7WtnHollywood Jef filmography: https://bit.ly/2VppWMfWine Spectator, "Where in the World Is Wine Counterfeiter Rudy Kurniawan?" (Nov. 2020): https://bit.ly/3xkgTJzDecanter, "U.S. deports convicted wine fraudster Rudy Kurniawan" (Apr. 2021): https://bit.ly/2VtWQejThe New Yorker, "A True-Crime Documentary About the Con That Shook the World of Wine" (2016): https://bit.ly/3xo5kkrFremont Brewing slap koozie: https://www.fremontbeertogo.com/geartogo*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

MM unrolls the mile-long scroll of content warnings for the conclusion of her coverage of the Netflix documentary "Evil Genius." Find out what happened after authorities made the connection of the murder of Brian Wells to all of the shenanigans of Marjorie Diehl Armstrong and Bill Rothstein.Who the hell came up with over the hill parties? Katy has traumatic scavenger hunt memories. How do you even get into sword swallowing? Backstory alert: learn how Katy and MM both know someone who is on the lam for (alleged) embezzlement. Learn some fun facts about how to competitively eat strawberries. When you get to the Game of Thrones reference... it's Rickon. We know we're talking about Rickon. Don't @ us.Sources/Things MentionedEvil Genius: The True Story of America's Most Diabolical Bank Heist: https://bit.ly/3eIXCe5 Wikipedia, "The Death of Brian Wells": https://bit.ly/36R4KRgBurlington County Times, "15 Years Later, Where Are the Pizza Bomber Characters Now?": https://bit.ly/3rrM9ETErie Times News, Jon Rothstein obituary: https://legcy.co/3zBPqEPMental Floss, "12 Facts About Evil Genius, Netflix’s Addictive New True Crime Series": https://bit.ly/2UYGfiy30 Minutes or Less (somehow not based on this!): https://bit.ly/3wYiDIfBuzzfeed Unsolved's Pizza Bomber episode: https://youtu.be/63tQ7yGmsmI *******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

MM's telling a story that is full of way too many twists and turns to be contained in one episode: the 2003 murder of Brian Wells, which included a collar bomb, a bank heist, and lots of evil masterminding from Marjorie Diehl Armstrong.Also included, a BTS/Ginger Demon update. MM texting Katy about booby traps prompts no context questions or follow-ups. Authorities go on the worst scavenger hunt ever. All important and sex-related contact info should go in a Lisa Frank address book. Werewolves are not Katy's brand. Keep your ears... peeled(?)... for cameos from both PA Moxie and PA Oliver Queen.Sources/Things MentionedEvil Genius: The True Story of America's Most Diabolical Bank Heist: https://bit.ly/3eIXCe5 Wikipedia, "The Death of Brian Wells": https://bit.ly/36R4KRgBurlington County Times, "15 Years Later, Where Are the Pizza Bomber Characters Now?": https://bit.ly/3rrM9ETErie Times News, Jon Rothstein obituary: https://legcy.co/3zBPqEPMental Floss, "12 Facts About Evil Genius, Netflix’s Addictive New True Crime Series": https://bit.ly/2UYGfiy30 Minutes or Less (somehow not based on this!): https://bit.ly/3wYiDIfBuzzfeed Unsolved's Pizza Bomber episode: https://youtu.be/63tQ7yGmsmI*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com