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Episode #53: Eve In this episode of the Lift+Love podcast, hosts Allison Dayton, Jenie Rae Hunter, and Darice Auston delve into the story of Eve, highlighting her courage and wisdom. They discuss how Eve's choices parallel the experiences of being an LGBTQ+ Latter-day Saint or raising LGBTQ+ children within the church. The conversation touches on faith, agency, and the challenges of navigating church teachings that often leave LGBTQ+ individuals feeling ostracized. Focusing on the complexity and uncertainty of their journey, the hosts emphasize the importance of seeking personal revelation and supporting their children in a faith-based home while addressing institutional gaps and the need for inclusive spiritual guidance.   Video version available on our Youtube channel: https://youtu.be/JBWZ9dxQPnY   Resources Mentioned: Faith Matters Podcast - (An Episode of Sanctuary, Discovering the Temple) A Deeper Look at the Creation Story with Jared Lambert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s8ihuPlif0 Lift and Love Podcast - Episode 3 - Healthy Sexuality and Identity in LDS Youth with Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-hgjf7-f584d2 "The Two Trees" by Valerie Hudson https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/conference_home/august-2010/the-two-trees Elder Dallin H. Oaks, “The Great Plan of Happiness,” October 1993 General Conference https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1993/10/the-great-plan-of-happiness?lang=eng Topic: Distinction between sin and transgression regarding Eve, explains that the transgression was a formality. Elder Patrick Kearon, “God’s Intent is To Bring You Home,” August 2024 General Confernece https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2024/04/45kearon?lang=eng Topic: "God being in relentless pursuit of you" Described as welcoming, including, not othering or excluding   Scripture References: Moses (Book of Moses) Genesis 3 The Family Proclamation (referenced in context of FSY curriculum) Connect With Us: Call the Lift+Love voicemail line (801) 382-8420 to share ideas for topics you’d like us to discuss in future episodes. Tags: #LGBTQ #LDS #Mormon #ParentingLGBTQ #Faith #Family #TransYouth #ChurchOfJesusChrist #QueerFaith #LiftAndLoveorg

In this episode, Allison Dayton, Jenie Hunter, and Darice Auston discuss where they in this journey and the new goals of Lift+Love.   The goal of Lift and Love is to create a space for BIG heartfelt conversations about faith, family, and the unique journeys of  LGBTQ individuals and their families in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Each week, we gather to share insights, resources, and experiences that reflect the beauty and complexity of navigating this journey offering hope and encouragement to others along the way Episode #52: We're Back! Overview: After a hiatus, the Lift+Love Podcast returns with heartfelt conversations about faith, family, and the unique journeys of LGBTQ+ individuals and their families in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Episode Hosts:  Allison Dayton (Founder of the Lift+Love organization, original Lift+Love podcast co-host, parent of LGBTQ+ child), Jenie Hunter (original Lift+Love podcast co-host, LCS certified life coach, parent of LGBTQ+ child) and Darice Auston (Lift+Love Director of Getting Stuff Done, Gather Director, Lift+Love Store Manager, parent of a trans child) Episode Topic Highlights: Our journey so far as parents of LGBTQ+ kids  Generational shifts in coming out (kids coming out younger/earlier) Parents are shifting from "problem to solve" to "person to love” The ongoing tension of balancing faith, covenants, and loving LGBTQ+ children. No clear "plan of salvation" for queer individuals in LDS doctrine Current church policies especially challenging for trans youth The constant companion of uncertainty Resources Mentioned: PFLAG https://pflag.org/find-resources/ Lift and Love monthly online support groups: https://www.liftandlove.org/support Coaching services available through Jenie @jeniehuntercoaching www.jeniehuntercoaching.com Lift+Love website www.liftandlove.org "Blessed be God...who comforted us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God." 2 Corinthians 1:3-4   Connect With Us: Call the Lift+Love voicemail line (801) 382-8420 to share ideas for topics you’d like us to discuss in future episodes. Tags: #LGBTQ #LDS #Mormon #ParentingLGBTQ #Faith #Family #TransYouth #ChurchOfJesusChrist #QueerFaith #LiftAndLove    

Allison and Jenie sit down with Anita Ervin (host of the Lift and Love non-binary parenting support groups) and how to council with your children in the uncomfortable moments.  When we don't get a vote but we still want to be a voice in our children's decisions.  For instance, if your transgender child wants to seek medical affirming care but you might not agree with the decision.  How do you best help your child? Create emotional distance when possible (i.e. make sure I'm not speaking from a place of fear) Focus on the underlying questions rather than the specific situation. For example: Resolving relationship conflict Addressing relationship expectations Finding trustworthy medical and psychological care Making wise medical decisions 3. Use available (and reliable) resources: Reliable medical sources Trusted professionals Knowledgeable friends (when appropriate) Books (use with caution) Informative podcasts, especially those with guests who are open about their personal experiences Support groups 4. Seek divine inspiration. Heavenly Father understands the position we are in. He will not abandon us when we have the best interests of our loved ones at heart. 5. Don't be afraid to decline the opportunity to give counsel if it's too much for you. Let them know you don't feel like you are in a place that you can share insight with them about it, but that you love them and you're working to overcome your discomfort with the situation because they matter to you.   Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support .   If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey you can work 1:1 with Jenie at www.jeniehuntercoaching.com For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching    

Every parent wants to raise a healthy child, no matter what their sexuality is. When your child comes out this is one of the biggest fears that parents of LGBTQ children have. Will they be healthy emotionally and spiritually? In this episode Allison and Jenie talk about how they handled it with their sons and what they have learned helping 100's of families help their child If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey you can work 1:1 with Jenie at www.jeniehuntercoaching.com Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching    

Have you ever listened to a talk that everybody seems to love and you are left with feeling less hope and more fear? Allison and Jenie recently experienced this and they discuss in this episode how to process and find peace. If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lifted Together Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching  

We are back! Jenie and Allison talk about the behind the Gathering Conference.  Sharing their experience, behind the scenes moments and what they have learned. To listen to the Gathering Speakers go to Gathering Speakers Youtube If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lifted Together Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching  

Most parent's have great fear on what is going to happen with their testimony when their child comes out.  Can they stay in the church and support their LGBTQ child?  Anita Irvin, Allison and Jenie talk about how they have managed this path and share what they needed to do to protect their testimony and how they grew their faith of Jesus Christ If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lifted Together Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching      

Worry is a sneaky emotion.  It feels useful and necessary.  But that is a lie.  When we create worry about our LGBTQ child we are using up our valuable emotional energy in unproductive ways.  Taking action from worry is not where we want to parent from. This episode Allison and Jenie talk about how to handle your worry, what result your worry is creating and how to thrive and not just survive.  Link for the Pope's quoteshttps://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/250221/at-general-audience-pope-francis-urges-parents-never-condemn-a-child If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching    

This episode we are sharing the conversation I recorded with Heather Rackman from Latter Day Life Coach  Podcast We talk about how to you as the mom can be the touchpoint for your LGBTQ child. If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching    

In this episode Jenie and Allison talk with Julie Spilsbury who serves as a Councilmember for the city of Mesa.  Julie shared with us her story on how supporting the controversial non-discrimination ordinance effected her relationships and her standing in the community.   Julie was elected to the Mesa City Council in August of 2020, Councilmember Julie Spilsbury began her first term defending her vote on Mesa’s controversial Non-Discrimination Ordinance – passed March 1 2021. Julie and her husband Jeremy ran a small tree care company for more than 20 years. They have lived in Mesa for almost their entire 24 years of marriage and have six children, five girls and one boy. She attended Brigham Young University. To contact Councilmember Spilsbury you can reach her on Facebook  or her melissa.hollenbeck@mesaaz.gov. If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching          

In one week's time,  four mom's told us that their children didn't feel safe at church.  This is not unusual.  We hear this a lot. We also hear from parent's who don't have LGBTQ children they don't understand why LGBTQ children feel unsafe at church. In this episode we get vulnerable when we talk about HOW our LGBTQ saints feel emotionally unsafe in our churches.   It isn't happening intentionally but it is a reality for most LGBTQ LDS members at church.   Learning what makes them feel emotionally unsafe is the first step for us to become better disciples of our Savior.   His gospel is not unsafe, so we need to talk to our LGBTQ children and rethink our teaching and how we present it to uncover the answer to what is causing our LGBTQ members to feel disconnected with Him? We hope you can feel our love and plea for each of you and how we can create a safer environment for ALL of God's children in our church community. If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching        

Allison and Jenie had the pleasure of interviewing Patrick Mason and J. David Pulsipher about their new book.  These two men have co-authored the book Proclaim Peace - The Restoration's Answer to an Age of Conflict. This book is a spiritual journey by two believing scholars of peace. In a world plagued by violence, Mason and Pulsipher believe, with President Russell M. Nelson, that “peace is possible” and that the “descendants of Abraham . . . are in a pivotal position to emerge as peacemakers” (“Blessed Are the Peacemakers,” Ensign, Nov. 2002). This book is an effort to lift up the Restoration’s distinctive principles that invite us to renounce violence and proclaim Christ’s good news of love and peace to a world that desperately needs it. Proclaim Peace seeks not to promote any particular ideology, but to invite readers, especially the rising generation, to reflect on the interpersonal, ethical, and social dimensions of Christian discipleshipPatrick Q. Mason is the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture and an associate professor of religious studies and history at Utah State University. He is a nationally recognized authority about the Church in media outlets. J. David Pulsipher is a professor of history at Brigham Young University–Idaho, where he teaches courses on citizenship, civil discourse, peace-building, and nonviolence .Patrick Q. Mason is the Leonard J. Arrington Chair of Mormon History and Culture and an associate professor of religious studies and history at Utah State University. He is a nationally recognized authority about the Church in media outlets. It was such a pleasure to hear their perspective and guidance of how to build bridges of peace in our communities and wards.    

Jenie and Allison sit down and talk to Jessica from Husband In Law podcast.   Steve and Jessica were happily married for 7 years until Steve came out as being gay which inevitably ended in divorce. Now, Matt and Jessica have been happily married for over 8 years. The crazy part is, Matt, Jessica, and Steve all get along, to the extent that Matt and Steve work together, every dang day… Don’t worry you will get all the details while you listen. Matt, Jessica, and Steve have a relationship that, by most standards, would be considered atypical.  Listen in as Jessica takes us on their  journey of learning how to love and accept themselves enough to love and accept others for who they are during this experience called “Life”. Husband in Law Podcast Husband in Law Instagram Account If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching        

When we talk to mom's of children who just came out - this is the number one question.  Is this just a phase?  Is this a trend?  All of their friends seem to be doing this. In this episode we talk with Dr. Lacey Bagley, LMFT who owns Celebrate LGBTQIA+ Therapy Services in Provo, Utah.  She helps us break "Is this just a phase?" down and gives us some great tips on how to parent and help your LGTBQ child as they explore their identity. To contact Dr. Lacey you can reach: Website: Celebrate Therapy/Dr. Lacey Celebratetherapy Instagram or Dr. Lacey Bagley Instagram If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching    

Are you dreading Thanksgiving dinner with the big family?  If so, we got your back.  In this episode we will teach you how to handle crazy grandma and have the best big family dinner you have ever had.  We arm you with great thoughts and 4 tips on how to prepare and coach yourself before the big family gathering. The book Allison referenced "Proclaim Peace If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community Join us for any of our free monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching  

Declaration of Divinity - Part 6 Declaration of Divinity - Part 6 - SEEKING As stated in Article Faith 9, “We believe that… He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.” As mother's we are pleading for greater gospel light to shine on our LGBTQ children. We invite all members to join us in asking the Savior for further understanding of the plan for HIS LGBTQ children. Join us for any of our monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . If you are looking to learn the tools and to get the coaching that will help your LGBTQ family thrive while gaining access to other families on this journey than the Lift and Love Community is the place for you.  For details on how to join go to www.liftandlove.org/community For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching  

Declaration of Divinity - Part 5 We get the question a lot - "Why do we have so many LGBTQ saints?"  This question we discuss in this episode and how we feel as mother's of LGBTQ children that our LGBTQ children have an important purpose here on earth.  That they were sent down to earth at this time to teach others and to do specific missions for their Heavenly Father.  Jenie and Allison discuss the beauty of what their diversity brings and how diversity makes the body of Christ perfect only with its diversity. To quote Bishop Gérald Caussé, Presiding Bishop,  “unity is not achieved by ignoring and isolating members who seem to be different.”4 Christ’s unity is not subtractive, whereby we disregard the significance of our differences. It is additive. This episode talks about how we can better strive to understand, to appreciate, and to integrate our differences in order to carry out the Lord’s work. This is an important episode about how essential diversity is for Christ's church. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2019/07/the-blessings-of-diversity?lang=eng   Declaration of Divinity - Part  5 PURPOSE - We believe that our LGBTQ children have been sent to earth at this time for a divine mission. Their diversity is essential to the body of Christ and we are not whole without them. They are here to teach us and it is our responsibility to ask God what He wants us to know and how we can better love His children. Join us for any of our monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . If you would like some personal help on how to do this please sign up for a free consult with Jenie at Jenie Hunter Coaching www.jeniehuntercoaching.com. For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching  

Declaration of Divinity - Part 4 We know that our Heavenly Father love our LGBTQ children.  Unfortunately this is not always the message they receive in our church communities. Jenie and Allison discuss how harmful it is that our LGBTQ children receive the message of shame about who they are.  Allison share's her brothers journey with this messaging and how that affected his live.  Jenie talks about how sometimes parents are part of this harmful message and what to do next if that has happened in your family. This is a powerful episode about how important our words are to our LGBTQ children. Declaration of Divinity - Part 4 Divine Birthright - We take away an LGBTQ child’s divinity and replace it with shame when we tell them the way they were born is not part of God’s plan. As mothers we assert that any message taught to our children should reassure them that they are a beloved Child of God and so entitled to all the blessings promised to His faithful children. Join us for any of our monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . If you would like some personal help on how to do this please sign up for a free consult with Jenie at Jenie Hunter Coaching www.jeniehuntercoaching.com. For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching     Transcripts: Jenie Rae Hunter  0:03   Hello are lifted left community we are back with you today Alison and I and we are so excited we always love recording these podcasts they we want you know they are from our heart. Anything we're talking to you about has been weighing heavy on our heart and we work on it for weeks and weeks and this one in particular that we're going to talk about today and we're gonna get into in just a minute but I think this has taken us six months out so Allison Dayton  0:28   it feels like it and Jenny got me up at the crack of dawn, before the animals. We ran out of time yesterday Jenie Rae Hunter  0:37   Right so Allison might have a little morning voice because it's very early. Yes, almost morning. We had exciting house here in the hunters like my daughter, Sarah Jane, open up her she's at BYU. So we did it all via Facebook Live but she openened her mission call amd is going to Rome Italy and now her twin is going share her twin already opened her college she's going to Las Vegas, Nevada. So my twins will be out in January and March to go on their mission. So super excited for them. And your you have your BYUI. So, it was busy this week, for sure. And then we have some really exciting things coming up your loved one we're not going to tell you about we're just going to we have a really big announcement that we is squeezing changes happening. Present. It is it is we are so excited about we there's so much going on behind the scenes without that we're not going to we're gonna just tease you but in December we have a big announcement and our live event. Our first Love Allison Dayton  1:37   Live event. It's the first time I think ever that we that mothers of LGBTQ children have gotten an opportunity to be together for two days. Jenie Rae Hunter  1:50   I can not wait. Allison Dayton  1:54    It's going to be February 28 and march 1. Jenie Rae Hunter  1:59   Pretty full days both of those Yep, in what city in Provo? Allison Dayton  2:04   Lindon, it's next to Provo, in the shadow of the great Timpanogos  in this darling Event Center. Jenie Rae Hunter  2:15   And we are taking limited moms like we are making it this very cozy. So by the time you hear this podcast, it is live, Allison Dayton  2:24   Go to liftandlove.org and look at the live event button on the homepage and have a look at it. But it shows you what's paid for in the event proce and what you'll receive. I think the most important thing is you're going to be with a lot of other women who have been going through the same changes that you have, and you are going to find friendship and love and camaraderie and lifelong support. And we just we can't wait we we can't wait to do it. Jenie Rae Hunter  3:05   Yeah. If you know us, we are both kind of party girls. And so we have like it's going to be fun. And our whole purpose for this event coming together as women as moms is to leave with that so much better friendships and community in this because we know how isolating could be as LGBTQ moms, and we are creating things to end that isolation. So we're so excited. So we're going to focus on what we're here today. And we're talking about number four of the declaration of divinity. And this one's exciting. Go ahead, Allison Dayton  3:42   We are going to focus on birthright here. I'm just gonna read it really quick, I'm going to lead with it because these are the words that that began kind of our quest for sort of these statements. We take away our child's divinity and replace it with shame when we tell them the way they were born is not part of God's plan. as mothers, we assert that any message taught to our children should reassure them, that they are beloved children of God, and so entitled to all the blessings promised to his faithful children. Jenie Rae Hunter  4:18   I just, I mean, we know this. When you heard this, I'm sure you felt like we did like, wow, like it hurts that this is truth that we have given our LGBTQ filter and say, shame instead of divinity. We mean we talked to hundreds of moms. And this is the common denominator of what we have to kind of heal in our children of the shame and the trauma that they've received from the messages and potentially it's not I know that it's never been intentional anybody to take away anybody's divinity, but just kind of the platitudes and the things we've said part of our community. This has produced shame, if you're LGBTQ member, Allison Dayton  4:57   Right? And we've we journey and I've just been talking about These words. And it's interesting because I was looking through a journal from last year, and I try and keep I keep, I'm not great at writing journals, but I keep like statements and like inspiration and personal revelation in my journal and part of that first line, they're taking away the Divinity was in there. And Jenny and I have talked about this over the years, with my brother's death and the experiences, the sacred experiences around being in this house, and being part of that. One of the real understandings I had with it, he felt divorced from his heavenly parents when he left the church, because he was gay. And it was something he left when he was 24. And he died at 58. And it was something that he could never heal. And it was actually one of the first real understandings that I had, and I'm sort of ashamed I didn't understand it before.  Unknown Speaker  6:14   he felt Holy Spirit after Yeah. Allison Dayton  6:17   And he was so angry at the church, and that it was hard to look at it in like a healthy, objective way. And anyway, I just this has been in my head for a long time. And I think as Jenny and I have have raised these children, we can see it. This disconnection from their divinity and this disconnection from, from Jesus Christ and from God that we don't nobody intends it to happen. But, because because of some of the words around how we talk about LGBTQ people, it does happen. Jenie Rae Hunter  7:04   It does. And we know how, when you really look at who you are, and how you recreate it with the feeling of shame, like, I mean, how many times have we heard like, well, if I kill myself, then I won't feel this way anymore. And we know of the suicides and we know I mean, this is a serious problem. And, you know, I know, part of my son, I mean, he had some drug use, and it was from this feeling of shame. And it's really hard as parents, because then you have, like, have I add it to that shame. And, you know, like, you have to, it's really kind of devastating to go through it. Because you hold all of us, none of us should feel shameful for who we are, we're 100% worth, and that, you know, it's easier for us. But once when our children are affected, and our siblings, and that's a heartache. That's really it takes a while for you personally to heal for him too. And, you know, I think it's so interesting because Preston, you know, he didn't start that way. Like he served a mission, right?  Allison Dayton  8:06   oh and, and, you know, even and maybe one day we'll, I'll be brave enough to do, we'll do a podcast on suicide, but we were cleaning out his house, there were such symbols, or symbols from our gospel, even a painting he had done at the temple. In his home. They were not out like ours would be. Yeah. But you know, there was actually a photograph of the sacred grove in his home. And those symbols were so important to him, even even in his anger. And I think we, as mothers have just seen this and you know, I had a mom asked me this week, are actually a friend. Another LGBTQ mom said that she had a young man say to her, how do I do this? If God hates me? And the church hates me. And I mean that I know that was never anyone's intent. It's interesting how impactful Elder, Ballard's talk at BYU was when he said to those of you who are LGBTQ, I want you to know that there is a place for you in God's kingdom. Like that is if you're on the Instagram accounts for LGBTQ people that is so often repeated and I know that you'll be saying, well, we maybe we don't take away anyone's divinity. But I think that they we we might not do that, but that is the feeling. Right that our members and our families feel. Jenie Rae Hunter  10:01   Right? And, and we know this to be true because of how many we talked to right. And you know, even when a child is super obedient and you know, goes on a mission because they think this the mission will then solve this what they feel like is shameful about them. And then they come back and, you know, we just stories over and over again about and they, you know they can't even listen to the apostle speak anymore because that tr

Allison and Jenie introduce Part 3 of the declaration of Divinity - Eternal Families.  They share how they viewed their eternal family once their son's came out.  They also share ideas on how to connect your child to their spirituality if they decide to leave to the church.  It is a powerful episode on examining how you view your family and how that effects your family. Declaration of Divinity - Part 2 ETERNAL FAMILIES - "As mother's we know that our family can only be complete when all members are loved and valued equally. We believe that each individual is an important part of the Eternal Family of God. We have faith that our Heavenly Parents know and understand our unique situations and that by following their guidance, given through the Holy Spirit, our earthly family will return to live with them again." Join us for any of our monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . If you would like some personal help on how to do this please sign up for a free consult with Jenie at Jenie Hunter Coaching www.jeniehuntercoaching.com. For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching      

Jenie and Allison talk with two of the coolest LGBTQ moms, Lisa Clark Valentine and Hailey Smith.  Both of these ladies are extremely talented and has made our world a better place with their talents. Lisa Clark is an actress and producer, known for Show Offs (2019), Pretty Darn Funny(2012) and Once I Was a Beehive (2015). Hailey Smith is an actress and producer, known for Show Offs (2019), Once I Was a Beehive (2015) and Christmas Time On this episode we talk about what an LDS LGBTQ TV show would look like. We invent the characters and the story line.  It is full of laughs and tender moments and most of all exceptional wisdom from 4 moms's who love their LGBTQ children at a 10. Join us for any of our monthly Lift+Love Support Groups - link sign up at Lift+Love Support . If you would like some personal help on how to do this please sign up for a free consult with Jenie at Jenie Hunter Coaching www.jeniehuntercoaching.com. For additional support and help please reach out to us on our IG accounts at Lift+Love and Jenie Hunter Coaching