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The International School of Life- We will help you to flourish abroad!

“We believe that in the 21st century business is about people and relationships. To be successful we need a good network, especially when living abroad. We therefore have decided to create the International School of Life Member Club. This will run every Thursday giving you access to exclusive sessions and opportunities, as well as the ability to collaborate and network with its members. The Club will be a place where people will share a common purpose to help each other to grow”.
Angelina Piechowska & Bonny Martin Co-founders of The International School of Life

The ISL Member Club is an online international meeting platform dedicated to those (men and women) living abroad and who want to make money doing something they love. It is about networking from the comfort of your own home.
The ISL Member Club is not a platform for coaching or lectures where experts tell you how to manage your life. It is about encouraging its members to talk about themselves and what they do whilst also listening to others.
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#20 Interview with Karina Lagarrigue - Clinical psychologist helping expatriated, cross-cultural and frequent travelling couples and families to THRIVE. Early-stage PhD in Sensory Processing Sensitivity and expat motherhood (recorded February 2022) Karina has moved around the world since she was only 15 days old. Hypersensitive and hyperempathetic from birth, passionate about communication and interculturality, Karina dedicates her time to studying and accompanying expatriation processes, transitions to international motherhood and fatherhood, and to understanding the interpersonal adaptation processes that occur between couples in all these contexts.Karina answered a few questions for us and gave us some great suggestions:What is unique for you in the experience of being an expat?If you could turn back the time, would you take the same decisions?Do you think that certain people have a personality or predisposition to be more able to leave their native country and move abroad than others? To easily find themselves again somewhere else?Which advice would you give to busy expat working mums, who may have lost the support of their family network once they moved abroad to help them build a new life?What are the different phases of settling abroad? Are there any? How can we support our kids during our ‘expat’ journey?Karina LagarriqueOn LinkedIn (5) Karina Lagarrigue | LinkedInOn Instagram - karinalagarriguepsychologistEnjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Adam Rosendahl - Master facilitator, entrepreneur, and experience design consultant. Chief Experience Officer at Late Nite Art (recorded September 2021) Through his award-winning workshops and trainings, Adam fuses experiential learning, arts, and cutting-edge facilitation to breathe imagination and connection into teams, organisations, and conferences around the globe. Drawing from his work in youth empowerment, illustration, music curation, and entrepreneurship, Adam developed the idea for Late Nite Art®: a methodology that spans industry, age, and culture, supporting participants to improve emotional intelligence, build creative confidence, and disrupt routine ways of thinking. Adam enjoys nothing more than lighting the creative spark in the people and places that need it most.Adam answered a few questions for us about his experience:1.I love your role, I love your title, so start let’s start from there. What does it mean to be a Chief Experience Officer? 2.What is Experience Design and why is it so important?3.When you work with people from many cultural backgrounds how do you manage to connect and educate all the participant efficiently?4.Is it simple to change people from completely strangers into friends in just a couple of hours?5.How can we use art/music to facilitate a space, a gathering, a meeting?6.How did you manage to convince so many famous brands to trust you and your unique methodology?7.How can we reboot creativity?8.We played a lot as a kid, then we stopped, do you think that we can come back to the times of joyfulness?Adam Rosendahl•On LinkedIn (16) Adam Rosendahl | LinkedIn Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Gabriela Weglowska - Learning Solutions Designer | Intercultural Consultant, Trainer & Coach (recorded July 2021) Gabi is a pro-active, impact-driven Learning and Development professional with expertise in Cultural Intelligence, Diversity & Inclusion and Soft Skills. Creative in identifying and designing effective learning solutions backed up by cross-cultural research and the neuroscience of learning, she is committed to excellence and enjoys inspiring and working with others towards mutual goals that create an impact. Gabi has a passion for human development, her mission being to help individuals and businesses develop culturally intelligent and inclusive mindsets and workplaces. She delivers on this mission through promoting and designing intercultural learning solutions that follow the trends of the 'modern learner' and meet the current challenges of her global clients.Gabi shared with us her interesting life experience:1. What was the reason why you moved abroad? Had you always thought about it?2. What was the greatest challenge you faced after you moved?3. Why have you chosen to work in the Intercultural Differences field? Can you tell us a little bit more about it?4. Do you have any advice for people who wants to move abroad and become members of international communities, but are afraid to take the step forward?5. In terms of improving language skills, do you have any tips for our audience?6. Do you feel like a ‘person on the swing’ who it is hard for to describe where her home is? Poland, UK?7. How have you designed and built your career abroad?8. Are there any specific skills you would recommend to people to focus on to develop their professional career?9. Where can people find you and how can they cooperate with you in the future or even attend the meetings you host?Gabriela Weglowskahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielaweglowska/Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Gry Guldberg – Organisational Transformation Activist FACILITATING SUSTAINABLE GROWTH, RESULTS & LEARNING (recorded May 2021) Gry Guldberg is a disciplined, transformative, and wise consultant who serves her client’s purpose and ambitions. She has the skills and the courage to create sustainable change and measurable results. She focuses on growth and vitality in the tasks to be done and results created. She has a creative and yet discreet way to problem solving and organisational design. She has long term relationships with clients and see challenges, obstacles, and conflicts as possibilities for growth and learning. She has developed, challenged and transformed leaders and executives from Haldor Topsøe, SAAB, Novo Nordisk, 3F, COOP, Årstiderne, COWI, Rambøll, Accenture, Tiger of Copenhagen.Gry shared with us her vision and her interesting life experiences:Gry you are currently based in Denmark, but do you feel as an international citizen? I know that you have been working with people from all over the globe, am I right?How do you work amongst different cultures? Do you change your approach and adjust it to the group that you work with? Gry on your Facebook page we can find the quote: “We are the ones we have been waiting for”. Can we explore this sentence a little bit more? Gry you wrote an article: “WHAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP DO OUR ORGANISATIONS NEED?”After #MeToo, Greta Thunberg, COVID-19 and Black Lives Matter? We should not invent a new type of leadership. We need everything we already know. TOTAL. Because what is the brand of fire if everything changes? What does it mean? In your opinion what are the future skills that we should learn to survive, to help others to survive and to save our planet?You help people with transformations, how does transformation begin? What it’s the first step?Gry GuldbergOn LinkedIn - (7) "gry guldberg" | Search | LinkedIn On Facebook – Gry Guldberg Friis | FacebookOn Instagram - Gry Guldberg Friis (@grubi_diamondpanther) • Instagram photos and videos Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Bogdan Manta – Neuroscience for Business Expert: engagement strategy, effective communication, seamless team dynamics, leadership excellence, hybrid work – Neuromarketing – Neuronal Dynamics - Founder and Expert Trainer at The Essential Workshops (recorded May 2021) Bogdan shared with us some interesting facts about his life & work!1.Bogdan you are currently based in Amsterdam, but originally come from the Czech Republic. As you probably know our audience is made of people from all over the world, and we are all curious to know how you built your life abroad? What was fascinating, and what was challenging?2.You focus on applying neuro-psychology to different learning models, emphasising on the human sensorimotor, cognitive, and affective response to stimuli. Can you tell us more about this because it sounds very different to the ‘old fashion’ education model where you are sitting in front of manuals and memorising everything.3.Can we jump into the future, and can you give us some suggestions as to what kind of skills we have to look for to learn more, to be more adaptable?4.How can we apply neuroscience in our daily life if we are not experts, but we want to improve our learning process, how can we start?5.What is your mission Bogdan? I know that you designed an online experience, and you gave the money to the British Red Cross?6.What is a good description of “Transformation Leader”?7.How can we learn online and not be overwhelmed? How to be engaged online without the Zoom or Teams Fatigue?Bogdan Manta•On LinkedIn - Bogdan Manta https://www.linkedin.com/in/bogdanmanta/?originalSubdomain=nlEnjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Andy Sontag – Program Director for KaosPilot - Designing experiences that enable people and relationships to grow - Copenhagen, Capital Region, Denmark - (recorded May 2021)Andy works together with talented producers and experience production teams to create the sought after Kaospilot Experience Design learning experience immersions. He holds workshops, work with clients and give talks globally.Andy answered a few questions for us! 1. Andy you are currently based in Copenhagen, Capital Region, Denmark but you originally come from the US, am I right? As you probably know our audience is made of people from all over the world, and we are curious to know how you built your life abroad? Was it fascinating, challenging?2. You are the Educator, the Mentor at Kaos Pilot and you create amazing innovative programs for future leaders. I was lucky to personally complete two of those programmes; “Experience Design” and “Become”. An incredible experience with brilliant unknown content, that you cannot very easily find on Google, and with some amazing people from all over the globe. How did you start to work at Kaos Pilot? How did you develop your skills and find your big WHY?3. Can you please give us some suggestions as to what kind of skills we should look for to learn and move forward, to be more adaptable, to be ready for transformation?4. Because you work with leaders from all over the globe have you spotted any global tendencies, directions that we as a civilization are going through? Which lessons we should learn?5. Now, about connecting beautiful people together, open-minded and open-hearted people. I really love the idea and confidence you give to people when they join your programme. How they will build and develop brilliant relationships. How do you connect people Andy?6. In terms of experience design, any tips or suggestions on how we can start, maybe even what does it mean, and how we can use it in our daily life?Andy Sontag•On LinkedIn (11) Andy Sontag | LinkedIn•On Twitter - sontagideologyKaospilot http://www.kaospilot.dk/kaospilot-experience-design/ Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Di Xiao – Pianist, writer, and cultural ambassador - (recorded April 2021)Hailed as 'a pianist of awesome gifts' and once named among the top ten up and coming Chinese pianists by International Piano Magazine, Di has performed in over 20 countries and in many of the World's most prestigious venues. The piano has taken her from the post Cultural Revolution backstreets of southern China to the world stage. A performer, educator, author and director, Di is passionate about sharing her knowledge and love of music, creating innovative concert programmes that mix Western and Eastern musical fabrics. Didi takes her role as cultural ambassador very seriously and aspires to create a bridge between the two cultures.During her interview I asked Di about:Her journey from China to Birmingham UK.What were her biggest concerns & fears about leaving home and moving to another country, another culture, another language?Who did she turn to for help & support? Which best advice would she give to someone wanting to move abroad?If being a talented musician, helped her settle into new surroundings? Having a passion for female empowerment, how does she thinks that the ISL (Ladies) Club can help empower women?The ISL is all about helping women realise their dreams & ambitions, unlock the talents & qualities they all possess. What were her dreams when leaving China and what would she say to anyone who has unfulfilled dreams? Di Xiaolinkedin.com/in/di-xiao-6b680118Websitesdixiao.co.uk/ (Personal Website)dixiao1.blogspot.com/ (Blog)facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Di-Xiao/135066539901633 (Facebook)TwitterEcstasyRecordsEnjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Sandy Zanella –- Mamma, Doctor and Children’s book author @happy.yogis.book (recorded April 2021)During this beautiful conversation with Sandy we spoke about:- How to build your life abroad- How to build a career, if your qualifications are not recognised in the country you live in- What is the purpose of constantly traveling and changing of place to live- How to find yourself in the minds of worldwide difficulties and intolerances- How to raise tri-lingual kids- How to build network and true relationshipSandy Zanellahttps://www.instagram.com/mymindfulmomlife/https://linktr.ee/MyMindfulMomLifeEnjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Karin Wilcox – Mezzo Soprano – District Winner at the Metropolitan Opera National Council Auditions in San Diego in 2011 - (recorded March 2021)Karin first discovered her love of classical singing as a youth growing up in Germany, which then developed into a passion for opera upon starting studies at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego. Most recently Karin was seen as “Siebel” in Valley Opera and Performing Arts production of Gounod’s Faust also she will debut in her first virtual role as La Badessa In Valley Opera and performing Arts production of Puccini’s Suor Angelica, set to premier in March of 2021.During her interview I asked Karin about:Her experience of living abroad and being an expat. How she has built her life successfully and develop her career?Her language skills and how she feels the flow in English!How she can sing without keeping the accent and tone of her mother tongue?How can people strengthen their voice?Karin Wilcoxhttps://www.karinwilcoxmezzo.com/https://affirmedsinger.com/Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
#11- Interview with Fathiya Fousseni – Entrepreneur, Podcasts host, Business strategist, helping women start online businesses and create leverage through branding, online marketing, social media, and community building - (recorded March 2021)Fathyia is also Founder of “She Wins Mastermind” – Co-founder of “Influvent” an influencer network and creative marketing agency that helps brands make an impact online and through events. Fathyia’s crazy entrepreneurial journey which started in 2015 inspired her to create the She wins mastermind platform with the mission to give female entrepreneur the tools and strategies they need to create a space for them to connect, be supported and grow.Today Fathyia talks to us about her incredible journey. Fathyia Fousseni𝐅𝐀𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐘𝐀®| 𝐁𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐒𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞𝗴𝐢𝐬𝐭 (@fathiya.site) • Instagram photos and videos (6) Fathiya Fousseni Page | Facebook She Wins Mastermind – The Digital Marketing Launge Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Anne Kjaer Bathel – CEO and Co-founder of the ReDI School of Digital Integration (recorded March 2021)Anne is a 2006 graduate from KaosPilot in Denmark, a hybrid of a business and a design school. From 2006-2009, she worked as a corporate social responsibility consultant. In that capacity, she developed and implemented Samsung Electronics’ award-winning corporate social responsibility strategy for Scandinavia. In July 2010, Anne moved to Japan, where she spent 2 years researching open social innovation and received the prestigious Rotary Peace Fellowship. In 2012, she moved to Berlin to set up the Berlin Peace Innovation Lab, which is associated with Stanford University. The lab focuses on how technology is facilitating emerging and measurable social change toward global peace. In 2015, in response to the refugee crises, Anne co-founded ReDI School of Digital Integration, a vocational training program teaching programming and tech skills to refugees and marginalised people. ReDI is currently teaching 1700+ adults and kids per year. 65% of these are women and girls. Anne was recognised by Edition F as one of "25 Women" revolutionising German industry and by Handelsblatt as "Mutmacher of the Year"(2018). She was awarded Best Female Social Entrepreneur of the year in Germany 2020.Today Anne talks to us about her journey and how she co-founded the ReDI School. Anne Kjaer Bathellinkedin.com/in/anne-kjær-bathel-7b7a9037 ReDI School | Digital Integration (redi-school.org)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz0mlDELSo0Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
VisualisationAccording to the Cambridge Dictionary, visualization is “the act of visualizing something or someone” or “forming a picture of it in your mind”. It is authentic but not real, it exists in your mind but not yet in your reality. This is the great beginning. Now you must write down all the ideas that come to your mind as you may forget about them. This is the only way your ideas will survive. What I realised whilst working with clients is that the images from our imagination must be very precise. With a lot of details, we can create and design something clear. Tali Sharot, a New-York University teacher published a study about Nature suggesting that visualization with a lot of details bring specific emotions and by envisioning them we feel more joy. I conducted my first Dream Map workshop six years ago and since I realised that there are a few steps to follow in a good visualization process:1.Clarification: Having a clear image of the future!2.Chatting: say it loudly!3.Choose your actions.4.Change your mindset: allow yourself to achieve it!5.Check it out! To find out more join me in the next Dream map workshop, further details can be found on our website www.internationalschooloflife.com
Why do people take away our dreams?“No matter where you're from, your dreams are valid.”– Lupita Nyong'oGary Hamel, an American Management Consultant founder of Strategos an international management consulting firm in Chicago & C.K.Prahalad a corporate and social strategist, educator and author, Professor at the University of Michigan described an experiment carried out on monkeys. The first part of the experiment shown four hungry monkeys locked inside a cage with a very tall pole. A bunch of bananas was hanged at the top of the pole. As soon as one of the monkeys climbed to get the fruits, it was doused with cold water. The monkey came back down screaming. It made no more attempts to reach the bunch of bananas. Another monkey climbed the pole, cold water was poured on again, more screaming and no more attempts either. The same goes for the third and fourth monkey...Check the podcast and don't allo others take your dreams from you!More details about Dream Map you can find on https://internationalschooloflife.com/coursesBon appetite!Angelina & Bonny
Why a Dream Map is not magical!I created my first Dream Map in 2014, in the middle of a harsh winter in Poland. I was working for General Electric and day after day I was becoming more and more unhappy. I did not like my job anymore and I did not have a clue of who I wanted to be, what I wanted to achieve. I was barely surviving until weekend.Listen now and check why teh Dream Map isn't magical!
Interview with Janice Scholl - Podcast Host, Guest Speaker, & Workshop Facilitator who helps professional mothers navigate their career & money through the stages of motherhood at The Money Career & Motherhood Podcast!About Janice:I’m on a mission to help mothers make more informed and strategic decisions about money, career, and business, so they can focus on what matters most. It’s only by both understanding our relationship with money and improving our money management skills that can we release money’s control over our life and family. I teach women how to use money as a tool to access the things they want, rather than the ultimate goal. Money may run the world, but I think YOU should run your life!I am passionate about helping women bring their vision to fruition and guiding professionals in paving their own path to success. Drawing on more than 15 years of experience domestically and internationally in business strategy, banking and finance, and business coaching, I uniquely apply business and financial principles to family life and motherhood to craft a plan designed to maximize success and fulfillment.In addition to offering insight and guidance through interviews with a variety of experts on The Money, Career, & Motherhood Podcast and in virtual events, I offer online workshops on the following topics:During my meeting with Janice, I asked her the following:What was the reason that you decided to move abroad?What was the greatest challenged for you to build your life in Asia?What was the best and worse experience of living abroad?How to find the strength to build your life all over again?How to find your ‘peers’, friends? How to build a connection?How to overcome your loneliness and language barrier?How to take the best you can from the experience of living abroad?Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Beth Walker (recorded January 2021) – Content Strategist and Author of the book “Lessons from the sidelines”Beth is passionate about storytelling and strives to tell each client's unique story. She has partnered with her husband for twenty years, in leadership and ministry both on and off the football field. Beth is passionate about encouraging women to pursue their individual callings. In her own writings she offers practical advice for other coaches’ wives, as well as a behind-the-scenes look at her family’s life as they serve their football players and their community. Beth released her first book in 2020 “Lessons from the Sidelines” which includes stories of military wives who have wrestled to find their calling while moving all over the world due to their husband's careers. It also features coaches' wives, and ministry wives lessonsfromthesidelines.com.Beth is sharing with us today some of her own stories and answered a few of our questions: •What were the greatest challenges for military or ministry wives who moved abroad?•How to find the strength to build your life all over again?•How to find your peers, friends and how to build connections?•How to overcome loneliness and language barrier?•How to take/keep the best from the experience of living abroad?Beth Walkerhttps://lessonsfromthesidelines.com/https://www.instagram.com/bw.alker/(4) Lessons From The Sidelines | Facebook
Gender equality, role models and beliefs Interview from Michele Thompson - Senior Manager at Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology Graduate University (OIST)Experience in:-University Community Services -Children's Development Center and Resource Center-Gender Equality and Human Resource Development -DiversityDuring my visit to Japan in October 2018 I met and spoke with Michelle about the following topics:•Two faces of shame - how to overcome your fear•The kind of problems women have to face to succeed•Equality and diversity in a modern society - strategy!•Era courses https://era-comm.eu/moodle/course/index.php?categoryid=48- Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Brexit and the future immigration in the UK and EU (recorded 2018)Interview from Lloyd Broad - Head of European and International Affairs and Interim Head of Employment and Skills at Birmingham City CouncilIn 2013 Lloyd wrote a new European and International Strategy for Greater Birmingham which aimed to provide enhanced strategic leadership, management and coordination of the city’s engagement around the world.Since the spring of 2013 Lloyd also led on the development of a new EU Structural Investment Funds Strategy for Greater Birmingham and Solihull LEP setting out the strategic priorities for spending €278 million for the period 2014-2020. Alongside the Leader of the Council, Lloyd also leads on negotiations with the British Government on enhanced roles for cities in the management and delivery of these funds.In September 2012, Lloyd was required to establish the new 'Greater Birmingham and West Midlands Brussels Office’. This new legal entity in Brussels continues Birmingham's representation in Brussels that began back in 1985. This office and its services are managed by Lloyd and on-going partnerships and relationships with local and regional partners seek to enhance the visibility and influence in Birmingham in EU funding, policy and legislation.In March 2018, Lloyd also took on the role of Interim Head of Employment and Skills managing a team of 30+ staff delivering employment and skills programmes with a value of over £50mLloyd has over 30 years’ experience working in Local Government, supported by an MBA in Public Sector Management.During my meeting with Lloyd, I asked him the following:-How do you cope with the two faces of shame; “I am not good enough” and “Who do you think you are?”-How people from Central Eastern Europe can achieve success in the UK and in Europe?-What is the difference between the educational system in the UK and in Poland?-What kind of experience do you have with immigrants who started to work in the UK-What kind of advice can you share with people who think about move to UK?Enjoy the podcast! Angelina
Interview with Elliott Callender – Founder of the Goodbrain Studios Understanding who you are and your deeper self. Celebrating differences (recorded December 2020)Innately curious. Insanely creative. Incredibly human. Elliott is the Founder and creator of Nodeunlock.io fusing together philosophy, psychology & technology. He has a knack for designing experiences that change humans’ mindsets without them knowing. Elliot, a 12-year Wealth Management & FinTech corporate human now reclaimed his autonomy & freedom. Inspired by the energy and wisdom of the world. In the pursuit of being less wrong. Not more right. Exploring collective exponential change, critical wisdom and human potential for nourishing and flourishing ourselves and the world.The lifeblood of society. The backbone of corporations. The connectivity and essence of how the world transcends generations. Yet, huge potential is often locked in the minds of those who don't dare to creatively and independently think. At Nodeunlock, we intentionally design radical immersive experiences personalised around the needs of the humans coming to learn and upgrade themselves with us.Today Elliott is sharing with us his story, how he created the right environment to succeed and why it is important to expand your horizons. Elliott Callenderlinkedin.com/in/elliott-callenderWebsites•nodeunlock.io/ (Company Website)•nodeunlock.io/features?format=rss (RSS Feed)•elliottcallender.com/ (Personal Website)Twitter•nodeunlock
Interview from Bryan Elliott – Founder of the Goodbrain StudiosWatch the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M74KOkO4nQ&feature=youtu.be Bryan is an innovator, a disruptor and a risk taker.He is a former Universal Home Entertainment Executive with 10 years’ experience in brand strategy, production, DVD and original content creation. He is not afraid of the unconventional and has a young start up mentality combined with a deep experience. He is not shy in front of or behind the camera creating original programming for brands and celebrity clients as well as a line-up of his own shows currently on air with an audience of more than 1 million viewers per month.His recent credits include: -Director Jillian Michaels: Lasting Weight Loss DVD (released 2017).-Producer of The Dog Whisperer, Cesar Millan's "Essentials of Dog Behavior" full-length DVD (released 2015).Writer, Director and Executive Producer of the reality web series, “Looks Easy and original series”, Creator, Director and host of Behind the Brand, a web series that profile people in business who are making things happen, “Behind the Brand” is in its 5th season with over 200 episodes and multi-millions of views to date.Bryan is an active writer, director, producer speaker, teacher & host. He has been a guest lecturer on university campuses including UCLA, USC, UCI, Chapman, Cal State Fullerton and more, teaching about branding, advertising, video, new media and tech.@BryanElliott The GoodBrain DigitalStudios http://thegoodbrain.comLA STUDIO & POST-PRODUCTION 12422 Bluff Creek Dr, Los Angeles, CA 90094 *By appointment only IRVINE STUDIO & OFFICE 200 Spectrum Center Ave., 3rd Floor, Irvine CA 92618Phone: 949-205-6262Email Bryan@thegoodbrain.comWebsite: https://www.behindthebrand.tv/g-e-a-r Behind the Brand with Bryan Elliott is a show for innovators, entrepreneurs and the stories behind their success. It is like a backstage pass to get inside the minds of some of the smartest and most interesting people on the planet.In 'Behind the brand' you will find, listen and watch: from best-selling authors, artists, musicians and business people, billionaires - to award-winning actors, top chefs, gold medalists and philanthropists... we are just getting started.
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