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Author: Gavyn Bailey

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Gavyn Bailey hosts And That’s That On That, a podcast built around honest, unfiltered conversations with artists, creators, and people shaping culture. From intimate conversations about life and creativity to the stories behind the music, Gavyn brings curiosity, humor, and a genuine interest in the person behind the public persona.

The show has featured conversations with artists and creators including Katie Gavin of MUNA, Zach Charles of A R I Z O N A, ELIO, Maddie Grace Jepson, Aidan Bissett, Gatlin, and many others.

Now entering a new chapter, And That’s That On That puts the conversation front and center: the career highs, the setbacks, the unexpected turns, and everything that happens in between. Funny when it should be, honest when it matters, and always a little unpredictable.
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✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop! Connect with us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ while you're at it 🫶🏻✨This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down for their final episode before their “brief” medical leave post–kidney transplant hiatus. They talk about their ins and outs for 2026 — but, as usual, it turns into so much more.The two reflect on the closing of a chaotic "nine year," the promise of new beginnings ahead, and how numerology, astrology, and Saturn returns somehow feel a little too accurate this time around.Gavyn opens up about his health journey, kidney failure, and the surreal timing of his transplant, while Haley shares lessons learned from job loss, discomfort, and trusting that the universe really does clear what no longer fits.It’s a send-off episode full of closure, hope, laughter, and honesty — a pause before the rebuild, and a reminder that even when you don’t know what’s next, you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be.👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Credits: Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley ChapmanMusic:“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusicAnd That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.
🎄Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop!🎄We’re back with our holiday special extravaganza! This week, we reminisce about the exact moments we learned Santa wasn’t real, relive iconic Christmas memories, including questionable holiday cocktails and Del Taco traditions, and spiral into discussions about grief, RBF vs. resting concerned face, and why Christmas dinner is basically just Thanksgiving in December. Connect with us:⁠⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ 👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ Credits: Audio & Video Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley ChapmanMusic:BalloonPlanet - "Once Upon a Christmas Groove"Rex Banner - "Silent Night"And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.
✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop!✨Guess who’s in their consistency era? (That’s on character development!)In this episode, Haley accidentally launches herself into orbit courtesy of a mystery gummy, while Gavyn gets unexpectedly acquainted with modern medicine and a surprise nap he didn’t sign up for. From hiccup horror stories to cosmic tarot readings, we somehow end up getting way too real about mental health, body image, and what it means to actually grow up.It’s funny, a little unhinged, and more vulnerable than we planned.. kinda like therapy, but with worse advice and better banter.If insurance makes your eyes glaze over, Lemonade could help — click here to get your customized quote! Follow us on socials! ⁠ ⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠ ⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠@andthatsthatpod⁠Credits: Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley ChapmanMusic:“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusicAnd That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.
✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop! Connect with us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ while you're at it 🫶🏻✨This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down with artist and songwriter manager, A&R, founder of The Arena Music, and—once upon a time—Gavyn’s boss, Jared Kaner. They get into the wild reality of the music business and how Jared went from selling houses to working behind the scenes on global hits for artists like 5 Seconds of Summer, David Guetta, Galantis, Alan Walker, and more.If you’re an aspiring artist, songwriter, producer, or future manager, this episode is basically a free masterclass. Jared breaks down what it really takes to build a career in today’s industry, sharing the advice he wishes he had starting out.And because we can’t resist, we also drag Jared through our favorite recurring segments. Spoiler: he’s officially over Labubus.Connect with Jared!@jaredkaner / @thearenamusic👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Credits: Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman Music:“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusicAnd That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.
✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop! Connect with us on ⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠TikTok⁠ while you're at it 🫶🏻✨Breaking news! Gavyn finally left his apartment which means he and Haley are back in the same room for the first time in a year. Huge! They’re joined by the incredible artist/songwriter Debbii Dawson. They talk growing up in a musical family, her journey from AGT to today, building confidence onstage, and navigating the internet as an artist. This one is full of good tea. 🎶 Listen / Connect with Debbii:SpotifyApple MusicInstagramTikTok👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠ ⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠Credits: Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley ChapmanMusic:“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusicAnd That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.Chapters:00:00 Intro13:40 Welcome Debbii Dawson13:55 Pit & Peak21:40 America’s Got Talent23:57 Musical Upbringings and Influences28:36 Debbii’s New Era31:00 "I Want You”32:12 Reality of the Music Industry34:21 Achieving Confidence 39:40 Touring42:56 Into It & Over It 50:00 Decoding Dreams & Hallucinations 1:00:26 Unpopular Opinions 1:02:36 Final Question and Closing
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