And That's That On That

Wafia joins Gavyn for an honest and deeply personal conversation about her journey from a nomadic childhood to finding her voice in the music industry. The two dive into the making of her debut album, Promised Land, the vulnerability behind songs like “House Down” and “Sad Shit,” navigating complicated relationships, and learning to trust yourself even when others tell you otherwise. Plus, Wafia reflects on self-worth, spirituality, and embracing the next chapter of her music career.Wafia's latest single, “Girl Is a Gun,” is available to stream everywhere now!Want a little more And That's That On That? Join us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, behind-the-scenes updates, companion episode deep dives, early access, and more. Plus, your support helps keep these conversations going! Join for just $5/month at patreon.com/andthatsthatpod.

A new era begins! Gavyn returns for the season premiere, marking the start of his solo host journey. Fresh off the release of her latest album, IS THIS THE END?, singer-songwriter Chelsea Cutler joins Gavyn for an honest and heartfelt conversation about the making of the record, the personal experiences that shaped it, navigating change, rediscovering herself, and embracing the uncertainty of new beginnings. Chelsea's new album, IS THIS THE END?, is available to stream everywhere now!Want a little more And That's That On That? Join us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, behind-the-scenes updates, companion episode deep dives, early access, and more. Plus, your support helps keep these conversations going! Join for just $5/month at patreon.com/andthatsthatpod.

Want a little more And That's That On That? Join us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content, behind-the-scenes updates, companion episode deep dives, early access, and more. Plus, your support helps keep these conversations going! Join for just $5/month at patreon.com/andthatsthatpod. This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down for their final episode before their “brief” medical leave post–kidney transplant hiatus. They talk about their ins and outs for 2026 — but, as usual, it turns into so much more.The two reflect on the closing of a chaotic "nine year," the promise of new beginnings ahead, and how numerology, astrology, and Saturn returns somehow feel a little too accurate this time around.Gavyn opens up about his health journey, kidney failure, and the surreal timing of his transplant, while Haley shares lessons learned from job loss, discomfort, and trusting that the universe really does clear what no longer fits.It’s a send-off episode full of closure, hope, laughter, and honesty — a pause before the rebuild, and a reminder that even when you don’t know what’s next, you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be.Music:“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusicAnd That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.

We’re back with our holiday special extravaganza! This week, we reminisce about the exact moments we learned Santa wasn’t real, relive iconic Christmas memories, including questionable holiday cocktails and Del Taco traditions, and spiral into discussions about grief, RBF vs. resting concerned face, and why Christmas dinner is basically just Thanksgiving in December. Music:BalloonPlanet - "Once Upon a Christmas Groove"Rex Banner - "Silent Night"And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.Season 3 - Episode 11

Guess who’s in their consistency era? (That’s on character development!)In this episode, Haley accidentally launches herself into orbit courtesy of a mystery gummy, while Gavyn gets unexpectedly acquainted with modern medicine and a surprise nap he didn’t sign up for. From hiccup horror stories to cosmic tarot readings, we somehow end up getting way too real about mental health, body image, and what it means to actually grow up.It’s funny, a little unhinged, and more vulnerable than we planned.. kinda like therapy, but with worse advice and better banter.Music:“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusicAnd That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.Season 3 - Episode 10