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Welcome to Primordial Dao Present Dao.

This is a long-form conversation style podcast about all-things Daoism.

Our conversations and interviews will discuss ancient and modern Daoist wisdom teachings, universal understandings, seasonal longevity and healing traditions, spiritual practices, relationship guidance and profound insights on walking an authentic and meaningful path - however, you choose to your walk it.

Michael Smith has been a formal student and practitioner of Daoism for 35 years. Dr. Smith has practiced and taught Traditional Chinese Medicine for over 25 years. Michael is passionate about sharing skills like Daoist meditation and Qi Gong with people suffering from chronic illness, trauma, and addiction.

Alex Krueger is a student, practitioner and teacher of qi gong and internal martial arts. He is also passionate about moving beyond limitations and living life to the fullest. Presently, Alex is dedicated to deepening his understanding of Daoism, meditation and personal growth.

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In this episode, Ravi and Michael talk about Medical Qi Gong, Consciousness, and different approaches to Hands-on-Healing.   This course is for those with a few years of Qi gong experience.   Here is the course link:   https://somadaoqigong.com/enhancing-your-qi-gong-healing-abilities/   Here is a link for the 2 year 500 hour full program   https://somadaoqigong.com/500-hour-medical-qi-gong-therapist/   Healing is Innate – A First Healer Story  The State Between Appreciation and Recognition (the origin of language) Qi Interaction Skills – Ting Jin, Yi Nian, De Qi, Fa Qi, and Nei Yang Gong Practice Bu Que – Restoring Wounds (Yours then theirs) Exercise – restoring clothing An Empowered Qi Ball – Open and Close Lao Gong and Wai Gong The 5 Phases (Elements) and Yin/Yang Balance Restoring Qi and Jing Jin (collagen) Exercise Two – restoring clothing A Fractal Manifold Cosmology and Ontology Ling, Hun, Shen – coherence and configuration (What is moving through?)  Science Story – building muscle and imagination/intention Yi Zhi – and the trickery of moving qi Modern Dopamine/cortisol and serotonin/acetylcholine imbalance There are Two Kinds of Healers (Hand Tremblers and Singers)    The Hun of the First Healer  The Four Recapitulation Doorways Exercise Three – (Ting, Dong – Li, Xing, Tong, Fa) Embodiment, Distress, and Affective Disorientation (Qing Zhi Bing) Stories and states. Grounded in the Soil (As a Healer) Qing Jing is a necessary state for Healing        
In this episode, Ravi and Michael talk about Medical Qi Gong, Consciousness, and different approaches to Hands-on-Healing.   This Course is for those with a few years of Qi gong experience.   Here is the course link:   https://somadaoqigong.com/enhancing-your-qi-gong-healing-abilities/   Here is a link for the 2 year 500 hour full program   https://somadaoqigong.com/500-hour-medical-qi-gong-therapist/   Healing is Innate – A First Healer Story  The State Between Appreciation and Recognition (the origin of language) Qi Interaction Skills – Ting Jin, Yi Nian, De Qi, Fa Qi, and Nei Yang Gong Practice Bu Que – Restoring Wounds (Yours then theirs) Exercise – restoring clothing An Empowered Qi Ball – Open and Close Lao Gong and Wai Gong The 5 Phases (Elements) and Yin/Yang Balance Restoring Qi and Jing Jin (collagen) Exercise Two – restoring clothing A Fractal Manifold Cosmology and Ontology Ling, Hun, Shen – coherence and configuration (What is moving through?)  Science Story – building muscle and imagination/intention Yi Zhi – and the trickery of moving qi Modern Dopamine/cortisol and serotonin/acetylcholine imbalance There are Two Kinds of Healers (Hand Tremblers and Singers)    The Hun of the First Healer  The Four Recapitulation Doorways Exercise Three – (Ting, Dong – Li, Xing, Tong, Fa) Embodiment, Distress, and Affective Disorientation (Qing Zhi Bing) Stories and states. Grounded in the Soil (As a Healer) Qing Jing is a necessary state for Healing        
This week, Ravi and Michael talk about applying Qi Gong (Dao Yin) principles and practices therapeutically.    There is a 10 Month course called Therapeutic Qi Gong beginning June 4th - at 6:00 pm - PST   There is a free LIVE webinar, on Saturday, June 1st at 9:00 am. A recording will be linked here soon.   Here is the course link: https://somadaoqigong.com/therapeutic-qi-gong-a-ten-month-journey/    
In today's episode, Michael and Ravi have an in-depth conversation about the Qi Gong practice called the Yi Jin Jing.   TAP HERE for part One.   Here is the link to the course - beginning April 17, 2024   TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page
In today's episode, Michael and Ravi have an in-depth conversation about the Qi Gong practice called the Yi Jin Jing.   TAP HERE for part Two.   Here is the link to the course - beginning April 17, 2024     TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page    
In this 'lucky number' episode, Ravi and Michael have a personal conversation about The Unexpected Intimacy of Inner Cultivation. TAP HERE for Part One   Upcoming Courses for 2024 with Dr. Michael Smith
In this 'lucky number' episode, Ravi and Michael have a personal conversation about The Unexpected Intimacy of Inner Cultivation.   TAP HERE for Part Two   Upcoming Courses for 2024 with Dr. Michael Smith    
This week, we are discussing the importance of a committed period of time to our practice.   This can include anything from seated meditation, to Qi Gong, Yoga, Martial Arts, Breathwork, or even studying the classics.   TAP HERE to Learn more about the upcoming course.   TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page
In this episode, Ravi and Michael go on a DEEP DIVE into several approaches to meditation, liberation from a conditioned separate self, and your birthright remembering or realization of existence as itself.   TAP HERE for Part One TAP HERE to Learn more about the Nei Gong course. TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page
In this episode, Ravi and Michael go on a DEEP DIVE into several approaches to meditation, liberation from a conditioned separate self, and your birthright remembering or realization of existence as itself.   TAP HERE for Part Two TAP HERE to Learn more about the upcoming course. TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page
In this episode, we discuss the meaning and practice of Nei Gong. Daoist Cultivation (Xiū Dào 修道) involves several practices that focus on Embodied Meditation. The two oldest, most comprehensive, and most common forms of meditation still practiced today are Chan/Zen (禪) and Nèi Gōng 内功. In the Yi Dao Huan Yuan tradition of Daoist Cultivation that I have learned and now teach, any committed meditation journey begins with the study of both, but with an initial dedication to the somatic, instinctual, visceral, and existential renewal of Nèi Gōng 内功. A contemporary Nèi Gōng practice begins with learning about and embodying your meridians, exploring subtle aspects of Qi circulation, Qi wounds, and Self Healing (Nei Yang Gong), as well as connecting with your Energy Centers (Dān Tián 丹田), all while opening your Microcosmic Orbit and Energy Gates/Portals/Apertures (Qiào 竅), and becoming very skillful in several forms of Shaolin and Daoist Breathwork. What is Nei Gong? Nèi Gōng 内功 can be translated as ‘Inner Practice or Cultivation’, subtle skills, or what happens beneath what can be seen. The Term Nèi 内 also implies the boundary between Separation and Non-Separation – an essential aspect of Daoist Cultivation. The term Nèi Gōng can be used in a martial arts, a Qì Gōng 氣功, a meditation, or in any other spiritual practice context. For the purpose of easy communication, I will refer to Nèi Gōng as if it is a distinct branch of practice that focuses on Cultivating Inner Awareness. With regular Nèi Gōng practice, you are beginning the journey of re-discovering your Innate Experiential/Existential Nature (Xìng 性) and your Aliveness Potential (Mìng 命). This practice also brings your subtle Energy Systems, Internal Organs, Meridians, Energy Centers (Dan Tian), and your Six Innate Minds (Yuán Xīn 元心), as well as your Energy Gates into balance – (including specific Acupuncture points, trees, rocks, waterfalls, or other places in Nature that feel just right). TAP HERE for Part One TAP HERE for Part Two   TAP HERE to Learn more about the upcoming course.   TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course   TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page
In this episode, we discuss the meaning and practice of Nei Gong. Daoist Cultivation (Xiū Dào 修道) involves several practices that focus on Embodied Meditation. The two oldest, most comprehensive, and most common forms of meditation still practiced today are Chan/Zen (禪) and Nèi Gōng 内功. In the Yi Dao Huan Yuan tradition of Daoist Cultivation that I have learned and now teach, any committed meditation journey begins with the study of both, but with an initial dedication to the somatic, instinctual, visceral, and existential renewal of Nèi Gōng 内功. A contemporary Nèi Gōng practice begins with learning about and embodying your meridians, exploring subtle aspects of Qi circulation, Qi wounds, and Self Healing (Nei Yang Gong), as well as connecting with your Energy Centers (Dān Tián 丹田), all while opening your Microcosmic Orbit and Energy Gates/Portals/Apertures (Qiào 竅), and becoming very skillful in several forms of Shaolin and Daoist Breathwork. What is Nei Gong? Nèi Gōng 内功 can be translated as ‘Inner Practice or Cultivation’, subtle skills, or what happens beneath what can be seen. The Term Nèi 内 also implies the boundary between Separation and Non-Separation – an essential aspect of Daoist Cultivation. The term Nèi Gōng can be used in a martial arts, a Qì Gōng 氣功, a meditation, or in any other spiritual practice context. For the purpose of easy communication, I will refer to Nèi Gōng as if it is a distinct branch of practice that focuses on Cultivating Inner Awareness. With regular Nèi Gōng practice, you are beginning the journey of re-discovering your Innate Experiential/Existential Nature (Xìng 性) and your Aliveness Potential (Mìng 命). This practice also brings your subtle Energy Systems, Internal Organs, Meridians, Energy Centers (Dan Tian), and your Six Innate Minds (Yuán Xīn 元心), as well as your Energy Gates into balance – (including specific Acupuncture points, trees, rocks, waterfalls, or other places in Nature that feel just right). TAP HERE for Part One TAP HERE for Part Three   TAP HERE to Learn more about the upcoming course.   TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course   TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page
In this episode, we discuss the meaning and practice of Nei Gong. Daoist Cultivation (Xiū Dào 修道) involves several practices that focus on Embodied Meditation. The two oldest, most comprehensive, and most common forms of meditation still practiced today are Chan/Zen (禪) and Nèi Gōng 内功. In the Yi Dao Huan Yuan tradition of Daoist Cultivation that I have learned and now teach, any committed meditation journey begins with the study of both, but with an initial dedication to the somatic, instinctual, visceral, and existential renewal of Nèi Gōng 内功. A contemporary Nèi Gōng practice begins with learning about and embodying your meridians, exploring subtle aspects of Qi circulation, Qi wounds, and Self Healing (Nei Yang Gong), as well as connecting with your Energy Centers (Dān Tián 丹田), all while opening your Microcosmic Orbit and Energy Gates/Portals/Apertures (Qiào 竅), and becoming very skillful in several forms of Shaolin and Daoist Breathwork. What is Nei Gong? Nèi Gōng 内功 can be translated as ‘Inner Practice or Cultivation’, subtle skills, or what happens beneath what can be seen. The Term Nèi 内 also implies the boundary between Separation and Non-Separation – an essential aspect of Daoist Cultivation. The term Nèi Gōng can be used in a martial arts, a Qì Gōng 氣功, a meditation, or in any other spiritual practice context. For the purpose of easy communication, I will refer to Nèi Gōng as if it is a distinct branch of practice that focuses on Cultivating Inner Awareness. With regular Nèi Gōng practice, you are beginning the journey of re-discovering your Innate Experiential/Existential Nature (Xìng 性) and your Aliveness Potential (Mìng 命). This practice also brings your subtle Energy Systems, Internal Organs, Meridians, Energy Centers (Dan Tian), and your Six Innate Minds (Yuán Xīn 元心), as well as your Energy Gates into balance – (including specific Acupuncture points, trees, rocks, waterfalls, or other places in Nature that feel just right) TAP HERE for Part Two   TAP HERE to Learn more about the upcoming course.   TAP HERE to Learn more about the Qi Gong Teacher Training Course   TAP HERE to see Michaels's Patreon Page  
In this episode, the discussion explores the history of Cannabis use, its relationship to Traditional Chinese medicine and human health, and how it may help or hinder one's Qi Gong and Meditation practice.  Dr. Michael Smith has taught Qi Gong for over 30 years. In his clinical practice, he primarily focuses on complex Autoimmune Diseases, Trauma, and Addiction. He has helped thousands of people use Medical Cannabis to help resolve life-destroying conditions and experiences.  Like all things in life, Cannabis may be the best or the worst medicine for any individual, or Spiritual practice.  Here is the link to Part One: https://primordialdaopresentdao.podbean.com/e/ep-9-cannabis-and-qi-gong-the-pros-and-cons/   If you want to try some free classes, go to: https://www.qigongcourses.online/   If you are interested in the Soma Dao Qi Gong courses, please tap on: https://somadaoqigong.com/   If you would like to contact Michael, here are some options: somadaoqigong@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/somadaoqigong
In this episode, the discussion explores the history of Cannabis use, its relationship to Traditional Chinese medicine and human health, and how it may help or hinder one's Qi Gong and Meditation practice.  Dr. Michael Smith has taught Qi Gong for over 30 years. In his clinical practice, he primarily focuses on complex Autoimmune Diseases, Trauma, and Addiction. He has helped thousands of people use Medical Cannabis to help resolve life-destroying conditions and experiences.  Like all things in life, Cannabis may be the best or the worst medicine for any individual, or Spiritual practice.  Here is the link to Part Two: https://primordialdaopresentdao.podbean.com/e/ep-9-cannabis-and-qi-gong-the-pros-and-cons-part-two/   If you want to try some free classes, go to: https://www.qigongcourses.online/   If you are interested in the Soma Dao Qi Gong courses, please tap on: https://somadaoqigong.com/   If you would like to contact Michael, here are some options: somadaoqigong@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/somadaoqigong
This episode was unscripted and takes some interesting turns... Bringing the Unconscious into Consciousness One of the unspoken challenges and transformational opportunities of Qi Gong and Meditation is unconscious patterns and beliefs showing up like an uninvited guest.   This conversation offers several perspectives and practical approaches to relating to your unconscious needs for awareness and healing.    Here is the link to Part One: https://primordialdaopresentdao.podbean.com/e/ep-8-bringing-the-unconscious-into-consciousness/   If you want to try some free classes, go to: https://www.qigongcourses.online/   If you are interested in the Soma Dao Qi Gong courses, please tap on: https://somadaoqigong.com/   If you would like to contact Michael, here are some options: somadaoqigong@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/somadaoqigong    
This episode was unscripted and takes some interesting turns... Bringing the Unconscious into Consciousness One of the unspoken challenges and transformational opportunities of Qi Gong and Meditation is unconscious patterns and beliefs showing up like an uninvited guest.   This conversation offers several perspectives and practical approaches to relating to your unconscious needs for awareness and healing.    Here is the link to Part Two: https://primordialdaopresentdao.podbean.com/e/ep-8-bringing-the-unconscious-into-consciousness-part-two/   If you want to try some free classes, go to: https://www.qigongcourses.online/   If you are interested in the Soma Dao Qi Gong courses, please tap on: https://somadaoqigong.com/   If you would like to contact Michael, here are some options: somadaoqigong@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/somadaoqigong    
In this episode, we welcome our new host, Ravi Kaler!   Teaching Qi Gong in 2022... Part Two After 30 years of teaching Qi Gong, and over 40 years of practice, Michael has some thoughts, funny stories, and hopefully supportive ideas for contemporary teachers.   Here is the link to Part One: https://primordialdaopresentdao.podbean.com/e/ep-7-teaching-qi-gong-in-2022-part-one/   If you want to try some free classes, go to: https://app.podia.com/products   If you are interested in the Soma Dao Qi Gong courses, please tap on the following: https://somadaoqigong.com/   If you would like to contact Michael, here are some options: somadaoqigong@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/somadaoqigong    
In this episode, we welcome our new host, Ravi Kaler!   Teaching Qi Gong in 2022... After 30 years of teaching Qi Gong, and over 40 years of practice, Michael has some thoughts, funny stories, and hopefully supportive ideas for contemporary teachers.   Here is the link to Part Two: https://primordialdaopresentdao.podbean.com/e/ep-7-teaching-qi-gong-in-2022-part-two/   If you want to try some free classes, go to: https://app.podia.com/products   If you are interested in the Soma Dao Qi Gong courses, please tap on: https://somadaoqigong.com/   If you would like to contact Michael, here are some options: somadaoqigong@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/somadaoqigong    
In this episode Alex and Michael Review the fundamentals of Emotional Intelligence and then discuss cognition from ancient Daoist and modern science perspectives.  If you are dedicated to a meditation practice, this will give you an internal roadmap to what your mind is doing and why!   Enjoy!
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