Utopia is Now

Lionel Page is a Professor of Economics and the Director of the Behavioural and Economic Science Cluster at the University of Queensland. He has worked on a wide range of topics in behavioural economics, such as risk preferences, social preferences and strategic behaviour. Timestamps _____________________ 0:00 - Teaser 1:14 - A Quick Story & Introduction to Lionel Page 8:48 - Rationality & Emotions 30:54 - Evolutionary Psychology & Being Optimally Irrational 50:52 - How might our decision-making processes need to change to address problems like climate change? 58:49 - How can we overcome our short-termism? 1:08:10 - Is belief in conspiracy theory rational? 1:16:35 - What is Lionel’s Utopia --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Ben Newell Professor of Cognitive Psychology and Deputy Head of the School of Psychology at the University of New South Wales. Ben’s research focuses on the cognitive processes underlying judgment, choice and decision-making, and the application of this knowledge to environmental, medical, financial and forensic contexts. He is the lead author of Straight Choices: The Psychology of Decision Making. He is on the Editorial Boards of Psychonomic Bulletin & Review, Thinking & Reasoning, Decision, Journal of Behavioral Decision Making and Experimental Psychology. Timestamps _____________________ 0:00 - Teaser 1:20: What are cognitive biases and how do they impact our decision-making processes? 9:35 - Cognitive Dissonance, Decision Making 16:03 - Cognitive Bias and irrational-decision making is adaptive 23:17 - What can we do to overcome cognitive bias? 34:32 - What are the cognitive factors that might make people more or less likely to take action on climate change? 39:05 - If you were an omnipotent leader, what lessons/principles of judgment and decision-making would you download onto Homo Sapien's collective consciousness? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Aaron Vansintjan is the Author of 'The Future is Degrowth' & Co-Editor of Uneven Earth. Aaron completed his PhD Candidate in the Department of Film, Media, and Cultural Studies at Birkbeck, University of London. He studies gentrification in Montreal and Hanoi. His PhD research draws on the fields of urban geography, comparative urbanism, political ecology, ecological economics, and food studies.   Timestamps  __________________  0:00 - Teaser 0:41 - Who is Aaron and his pathway from Philosophy  8:41 - What Degrowth Isn’t  17:06 - The History of Growth  25:11 - Fragmentation, isolation & the consequent impacts on communal care  32:44 - Is capitalism to blame for ecological, economical, social and spiritual damage?  39:30 - How can Degrowth be implemented in practice?  45:43 -  CRITIQUE OF DEGROWTH 1 - Matt Huber’s Class Critique of Degrowth - Aaron’s Rebuttal  55:02 - More Degowth Policies to appeal to the ecologically minded and the working class  1:06:20 -  CRITIQUE OF DEGROWTH 2  - Ought we be A-Growth rather than Degrowth? - Aaron’s Rebuttal  1:17:47 - What is Aaron’s Utopia (as a critic and sci-fi writer)   Credits  __________________  Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Matthew T. Huber is Professor of Geography at the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University. He is the author of Lifeblood: Oil, Freedom and the Forces of Capital and Climate Change as Class War.    Links ___________________  Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com  Matt Huber:  https://www.maxwell.syr.edu/directory... Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3 Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow   Timestamps  ___________________   0:00 Climate Change as Class War   9:35 - Class Politics, Marxist Thought & Climate Change  19:35 -  What are the reasons for failing to focus on the Capitalist Class as largely responsible for the climate crisis?  27:11    - The Professional Class & The Working Class  35:46 - Hubris, humiliation & political disenfranchisement  48:07  - How do we appeal to working-class voters?  57:29 - How Socialism can save the planet  1:10:12 - Criticisms of Degrowth  1:18:13 - Matt Huber’s Utopia  Credits  __________________  Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X   --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Professor Karoly was leader of the Earth Systems and Climate Change Hub in the Australian Government’s National Environmental Science Program, based in CSIRO, during 2018 to June 2021. During 2012-2017, he was a member of the Climate Change Authority, which provides advice to the Australian government on responding to climate change, including targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. He was involved in the Assessment Reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 2001, 2007, 2014 and 2021 in several different roles and was a part of the revered group of IPCC authors who shared the Nobel Peace prize with Al Gore in 2007. He was awarded the 2015 Royal Society of Victoria Medal for Scientific Excellence in Earth Sciences and elected a Fellow of the Australian Academy of Science in 2019.   Links  ___________________  Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com  David Karoly: https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/67077-david-karoly Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow   Timestamps  ___________________  0:00 - Teaser 1:54 - Intro to David Karoly  12:01 - The Moral Sentiments of a Climate Scientist  22:54 - What is the current state of the climate  30:32 - How has David coped with conducting research and consistently encountering distressing evidence for 40+ years?  38:47 - Climate Change & Social Justice  46:10 - Climate change as Class War  51:23  - How do you manage to take time for yourself in the face of the Sisyphean task of fighting against climate inaction?  57-52 - “Certain things, they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone”. -J.D. Salinger’s Catcher in the Rye.  If you could, what would you stick under a big glass case?  1:00:52 - What can people do to help fight climate injustice?   Credits  __________________  Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Rob Karpati is a long-term finance leader in multi-national corporate environments. Focusing on strategic transformation and on global process optimization over a 30+ year career, Rob's strength has been integrating complex end-to-end processes in ways that optimize value across multiple stakeholders. Using Finance as a business improvement ‘activator’, Rob has worked cross-culturally and cross-regionally in bringing together diverse stakeholders toward common perspectives on overall value. Links ___________________  Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com  Rob Karpati: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-karpati-3044a85/ New Yorker Article: https://bit.ly/3W6Ou6U Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3 Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow Timestamps ___________________  0:00 - Who is Rob?  3:01 - Who are Artisanal Miners and what is their Story?  6:51 - What materials/minerals are mined by Artisanal Miners and how does it impact the Global North  11:07 - What are the characteristics of artisanal miners? 14:55 - Where are Artisanal Miners mainly located?  16:41 - What is the day-to-day life of an artisanal miner?  32:23 - How can the artisanal mining industry be formalised?   36:10 - Does formalisation of work really provide workers with dignity?  44:34 - Is growth in key mineral extraction positively correlated with negative impacts on artisanal miners?  47:56- Can we improve the standards of Artisanal Miners without having the need to have shareholders of mining firms profiteering?  53:59 - What can people do to help artisanal miners? Credits __________________  Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Gordon Menzies obtained a (First Class) Honours degree from the University of New England in 1985. He won the Robert Jones Prize for the best Masters student at the Australian National University in 1997, and he won a Commonwealth Scholarship to undertake doctoral studies at Oxford University over 1998 to 2001. Prior to joining the University of Technology Sydney in 2003 he was 'in the room' of policymakers during the transformation of the Australian economy by the Hawke-Keating governments. From 1986 until 2003, he was an economist at the Reserve Bank of Australia.  Links ___________________ Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com  Gordon Menzies: https://profiles.uts.edu.au/gordon.me... Buy Western Fundamentalism: https://bit.ly/3HaqUl0 Timestamps ___________________  0:00 - Teaser 0:40 - Gordon Menzies Introduction  1:41 - What is Fundamentalism & how are we in the West fundamentalists?  5:03 - What is the importance of having first principles?  11:31 - Possession of ‘unprovable beliefs’  19:21 - Is there a problem with being a fundamentalist, especially a Western fundamentalist?  35:50 - What are ‘Unthinking Responses’ and how can this help us examine our first principles  39:32 - Can we be friends with people who hold fundamentally different beliefs?  46:12 - How can we promote critical thinking? 50:07 - Do policymakers have a view that economics takes primacy over issues such as moral goodness, environmental protection and being a person of virtue?  1:05:12 - Is Economic Growth a western fundamental?  1:14:17 - Do we have to bring an end to Capitalism?  1:20:25 - Limits: Why Malthus was Wrong   1:28:36 - What ought we do in an age where political discourse has been hallowed out by economists and technocrats?  1:40:21 - Promoting alternative scripts of living  1:50:58 - What is Gordon’s Utopia? Credits __________________  Thumbnail: Scuola di Atene by Rafael Sanzio da Urbino --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Professor Jacqui Ewart was a journalist and media manager for more than a decade. She has worked as an academic for the past 25 years. Professor Jacqui Ewart's research focuses on communication across various phases of disasters and the involvement of politicians in disasters. She also researches news media representations of various minority groups including Muslims and Indigenous Australians.  Links  ___________________  Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com  Jacqui Ewart: https://experts.griffith.edu.au/18772... Jacqui's Twitter: @jacquiewart  Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3 Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow   Timestamps  ___________________  0:00 - Teaser 0:36 - Who is Jacqueline Ewart?  6:53 -  What are disasters & the need for effective disaster communication  12:58-  What is disaster communication?  16:57 - How do journalists influence good/bad communication  24:02 - How do people respond in disasters?  29:08 - Covid & Climate Change Disaster Communication 37:24  - Merchants of Doubt  44:32 - A Quick Game with Professor Jacquie  50:28 - How do we communicate effectively in an age of misinformation?  55:11 - How does storytelling inform effective communication?  58:52 - What is Jacqui Ewart’s Utopia? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Professor James Hope-Ward (PhD) is the current Dean of Programs for STEM at the University of South Australia (UniSA). James has a mixed background in civil engineering and environmental science, putting himself under the broad heading of "environmental engineering". At UniSA, James coordinates two courses relating to hydraulics and environmental modeling. His research involves the study of big-picture sustainability problems such as the limits to the planet’s energy supplies, climate change and economic growth.      Timestamps  ____________________  0:00 - James’s Story & The Problem with Green Growth  15:33 - James Research, Relative v Absolute Decoupling, Upholding the Status Quo  30:19 - The Growth Paradox, Long-Termism & Decentralising Power  55:54 - What is the Way Forward?  1:00:34 - What is James’s Utopia?    Credits  ____________________  Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Timothée Parrique is a social scientist, originally from Versailles, France. He is currently a researcher at the School of Economics and Management of Lund University (Sweden).He holds a PhD in economics from the Centre d’Études et de Recherches sur le Développement (University of Clermont Auvergne, France) and the Stockholm Resilience Centre (Stockholm University, Sweden). Titled “The political economy of degrowth” (2019), his dissertation explores the economic implications of degrowth.    Links _____________________  Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com  Tim's Website: https://timotheeparrique.com/ Tim's Twitter: @timparrique  Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3 Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9JrInstagram/ Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow   Timestamps _____________________  0:00: Who is Timothee?  4:28: How did Timothee discover Degrowth?  10:30: What is Degrowth & How does this differ from other Economic Thought?  16:53:  The importance of detaching growth from prosperity  31:07 - What & who is an economy for?  44:40 - What are the Philosophical underpinnings of degrowth?  59:28- What would Tim’s Degrowth Utopia look like?  1:07:21 - How can we enact Degrowth now?   Credits ____________________  Thumbnail: Headshot  Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Kate Crowley is Associate Professor of Public and Environmental Policy at the University of Tasmania. She is widely published on green politics and environmental policy and has chaired advisory councils such as the Tasmanian Environment Industry Council, the Tasmanian Climate Action Council and the University of Tasmania's Board of Graduate Research. Her books include Australian Environmental Policy: Studies in decline and devolution (with Ken Walker) (1999); Minority government: The Liberal Green experience in Tasmania (2012); Environmental policy failure: The Australian story (2012)(with Ken Walker); and Policy Analysis in Australia: The State of the Art (with Brian Head) (2015). Links _______________________  Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com  Kate Crowley: https://twitter.com/Kate__Crowley Recent Media Feat. Kate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVUOO... Join our community: https://forms.gle/3gmq2WahzJZZ9Bny9 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3 Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow Timestamps ______________________  0:00 - Introduction  5:04 - Why was the 2022 Australian Election so important?  10:32 - What was the outcome of the election?  16:46 - What are the implications of a labor-majority parliament?  25:06 - What are the impacts of Australia’s climate policy across the globe?  30:27 - What is the Green New Deal?  38:40 - Should we push for a Green New Deal?  45:17 - A environmental policy expert’s predictions on Australia’s environmental policy  49:25 - What is Kate Crowley's Utopia? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Director of Energy Finance Studies (Australia/South Asia), Tim Buckley has 25 years of financial market experience covering the Australian, Asian and global equity markets from both a buy and sell-side perspective. Tim was a top-rated equity research analyst and has covered most sectors of the Australian economy. For many years, Tim was a managing director, head of equity research at Citigroup, as well as co-managing director of Arkx Investment Management P/L, a global listed clean energy investment company that was jointly owned by management and Westpac Banking Group.  Links _______________________   Contact: utopiaisnow2020@gmail.com   Tim Buckley: https://au.linkedin.com/in/tim-buckley-0a654313  Timestamps ______________________   0:00 - Teaser  1:01 - Introduction to Tim Buckley  7:54 - Overview of Climate Change & Finance  17:24 - Has the finance industry been moving to reflect the breakdown of the climate?  24:48 - The Economic Case for Renewables  37:11 - Is the real reason for climate inaction cognitive bias, not self-interest ?   44:48 - The Australian Election & Climate Politics 53:13 - What can we, the people, do to enact change? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Carl is the Dean of the Business School at the University of Technology, Sydney. Carl has held professorships at Swansea University, The University of Leicester, and Macquarie University. Prior to his academic career, Carl worked in professional and senior management positions in change management and organizational development for AGL Energy, Lend Lease, Citibank and The Boston Consulting Group. Carl’s combination of senior experience in academia and the private sector provides him with a unique perspective on how business and economic activity can and should contribute to society. Links _______________________  Roy Morgan Poll: https://bit.ly/3Kuvlpw  Carl Rhodes: https://profiles.uts.edu.au/Carl.Rhodes Buy the book:https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/... Join our community: https://forms.gle/3gmq2WahzJZZ9Bny9 Timestamps ______________________  0:00 - Intro  1:50 - The Narrative of Woke Capitalism  7:07 - What is Woke Capitalism & Why is it a threat to democracy  16:06 - What is the problem with people of power intervening on issues pertaining to the public good?  21:40 - Does a truly selfless act exist?  30:47 - Game Show: Woke Or Nope?  47:14 - What is the solution? What is the Utopia?  51:28  - What can students do to avoid Woke Capitalism  56:12 - Where should the power lie? Closing Statements --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Professor Harini Nagendra is the Director of the Research Centre at Azim Premji University in Bangalore, India, and leads the University’s Centre for Climate Change and Sustainability. Nagendra is known for her research spanning over 30 years on forest conservation, and urban sustainability, with several seminal publications in both areas of work. Her interdisciplinary work on forests combines remote sensing, biodiversity studies, and institutional analysis, and is recognised for elucidating the link between pattern and process in the human-dominated landscapes of South Asia. Links _______________________ Harini Nagendra: https://azimpremjiuniversity.edu.in/people/harini-nagendra Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3 Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow Timestamps ____________________ 0:00 - Teaser 1:06 - Introduction 13:30 - If you could share one thing about India, what would it be? 15:03 - How much does India’s ecological history inform India today? 18:01 - Western vs Eastern mismatch of environmental problems and solutions 28:13 - How is India experiencing Climate Change? 32:15 - How is the Indian government responding to environmental & climate-related disasters? 35:04 - Transdisciplinarity, cognitive dissonance, and growth vs environmentalism 50:41 - The importance of culture, art, and literature in creating change 58:19 - Harini Insights as an author of fictional novels? 1:05:32 - Is a Green Party viable in India?< 1:10:40 - Outlook of India's environment Credits ____________________ Thumbnail: Headshot Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X #ecology #climatechange #india --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Tim Buckley, Director, Climate Energy Finance (CEF) has 30 years of financial market experience covering the Australian, Asian and global equity markets from both a buy and sell side perspective. Tim was formerly Director Energy Finance Studies, Australia/South Asia, IEEFA, and was a Managing Director, Head of Equity Research at Citigroup for 17 years until 2008. Links _______________________ Contact: Tim Buckley: https://au.linkedin.com/in/tim-buckley-0a654313 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow Timestamps ______________________ 0:00 - Why is Finance important for mitigating the ecological crisis? 9:30 - How is the green energy transition going? 29:23 - Are we decarbonising fast enough? 36:49 - Tim on governments being captured by fossil fuel interests 43:52 - How can financial analysts justify investing in fossil fuel companies? 54:59 - Parting thoughts Credits ____________________ Thumbnail: Headshot Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X #renewableenergy #climatechange #finance --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Christian is the co-founder of management consultancy ReD Associates & Professor of Applied Humanities at The New School and Senior Partner in Red Associates. Christian's work is based on his interest in the practical application of the Human Sciences. Christian teaches philosophy at The New School in New York City and helps out in larger organizations as an advisor. Timestamps  ______________________  0:00 - Christian’s Story & His Heroes  13:44 - Heidegger, Technology & Nature  19:46 - How do we reconcile capitalist systems with the need to preserve the world?  27:03 - Human Intelligence in a world of Big Data  33:47 - The Value of the Humanities & its importance in human progress  39:05 - An Anthropologist Walks Into a Bar....  45:21 - How Anthropology can solve problems  54:03 - Social Sciences and Ignorance ' 59:56 - What is Christian’s Utopia? Mentioned  ______________________  ReD Associates   Sensemaking: The Power of the Humanities in the Age of the Algorithm by Christian Madsbjerg  The Question Concerning Technology by Martin Heidegger  Nassim Nicholas Taleb   Credits  ______________________  Thumbnail: Illustration by Tim Robinson  Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Michael Hendrix is an American graphic designer and entrepreneur. He is also the Partner and the Global Design Director of IDEO, a leading design consulting firm, where he practices brand strategy, creative direction, and graphic design. Michael also teaches entrepreneurship at the Berklee College of Music, where is also a co-founder of the Open Music Initiative, a program of the Berklee Institute for Creative Entrepreneurship. Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro/Context 3:15 - Starting as an Artist 10:20 - Listening to find Artistic Inspiration 18:05 - Communication 26:16 - Collaboration 38:15 - Playing Together: Childlike vs Adult 44:02 - Beatles, Business & Leadership 51:00 - Creating Spaces for Creativity 59:25 - Making WFH (Zoom) more Creative 1:08:14 - Michael’s Utopia Mentioned: Desmond Child - American Songwriter Björk - Icelandic Singer-Songwriter Ramones - Band You Give Love a Bad Name - Song by Bon Jovi -  American Rock Band Hide & Seek - Song by Imogen Heat - British Singer Rick Rubin - American Record Producer Justin Timberlake - American singer-songwriter --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Josh is a researcher, writer, and public speaker interested in the humanities, legal education and employment policies. He has appeared as a guest on the BBC, Channel 7, ABC Radio,  2SER FM, RTR FM and spoken at TEDx. He holds a Bachelor's Degree in English, History, and Law, and also a Ph.D. in Philosophy of Law and Education from the University of Adelaide. Josh also runs a YouTube channel where he shared great videos about philosophy and literature!   Links  _______________________  Find Joshua's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEAl... Joshua Website: https://newintrigue.com/ Join our community: https://forms.gle/3gmq2WahzJZZ9Bny9 Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow Timestamps  _______________________  0:00 - Teaser  1:32 -  Intro: The World According to Joshua Krook + Experiment  9:55- What is Romanticism? 19:32 - Joshua the Academic vs Joshua the Romantic  25:37 - The Confused Moral Messaging of Mythology and Narratives 32:35 -The Trifecta of Epistemology, Story Telling and Morality - How do we tie it all together? 41:55 - A Quick Pause - A Meditation on How Environments Shape Decision-Making 50:58  - Returning to the Trifecta 1:00:00 - How can we encapsulate subjective truths and stories into our conception of Justice & Morality  1:12:00 - What does Joshua's Utopia Look Like? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Rob is the former General Counsel and Chief Ethics Officer of Airbnb. Rob is a graduate of Harvard Law School and the University of Virginia. He worked for 14 years with the U.S. Justice Department. In 1999, Rob left the U.S. Attorney’s Office and moved to California to become eBay’s third attorney, handling a wide variety of litigation, IP and regulatory/compliance matters for the company globally. Later in his career, Rob joined Airbnb as General Counsel in the spring of 2016, where he grew the legal team from 30 to over 150 legal professionals in 20 offices around the world.    Links _______________________  Find Rob & his book: https://www.intentionalintegrity.com/  Join our community: https://forms.gle/3gmq2WahzJZZ9Bny9  Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3  Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ  Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr  Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow   Timestamps  _______________________  0:00 - Intro 2:29 - Diogenes the Cynic and the business world  5:00 - What the hell is a Chief Ethics Officer?  10:11 - Why did Rob become a Chief Ethics Officer?  14:21 - Rob's gripes with Milton Friedman  19:13 - How Important is a motive when doing the right thing?  23:51 - Rob's definition of ethics  27:01 - To what extent do companies, like Airbnb, do the right thing as a means to an end, rather than an end in itself  29:47- Shashwats Story & the business culture of India  37:49 - Where do we draw the line and hold people accountable for ethical quandaries?  42:57 - How to create a more empathetic legal system and navigate 'grey' ethical spaces?  46:41- How do we incentive ethical leadership?  50:39 - How do we create an ethical environment?  58:24 - How can we find the courage to be ethical leaders?  1:01:15 - What is Rob's Utopia?   Mentioned  _______________________  1) Diogenes the Cynic  2) Brian Chesky  3)#MeToo Movement  4) Milton Freedman  5) Conscious Capitalism  6) Stakeholder Capitalism  7) Alex Edmans  8) Give and Take by Adam Grant  9) The Power of Ethics by Susan Liautaud  10) Gunda's (Hindi word for gangsters)  11) Free Will by Sam Harris  12) Paul Millerd  13) Mahatma Gandhi  Credits _______________________  Cover Art: Airbnb Logo Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message

Rob Karpati is a Finance and Transformation leader who believes that social value is the starting point for business value. Rob is the VP and Strategic Transformation Leader at O Trade where social engagement turns potential conflict into collaboration, resulting in dignity for potentially at-risk communities. His role focuses on defining and leading organizational transformation in order to multiply social benefits through partnerships between his team and customers. He also integrates an analytical Finance approach, modeling the economic benefits of social engagement from the company, community, and investor points of view. Rob has been a long-term Finance leader in the multi-national corporate environment, focusing on strategic transformation and on global process optimization over a 30+ year career. He uses finance as a business improvement ‘activator’, and has worked cross-culturally and cross-regionally in bringing together diverse stakeholders toward common perspectives on overall value. Links Find Rob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-karpati-3044a85/ Join our community: https://forms.gle/3gmq2WahzJZZ9Bny9 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jkFkD3 Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3A4PPjZ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2SwB9Jr Instagram/Twitter/Linkedin: @utopiaisnow Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 3:00 - Rob's Story with O Trade 6:03 - Can Mining be Sustainable? 9:30 - Corporate Social Engagement 14:10 - Finance for Social Good 16:52 - How can we be more sustainable? 20:54 - Diversity, Inclusion & Corporate Ethics 30:43 - Socially Responsible Investments 35:15 - Finding New Ways to Measure Value 39:50 - Corporate Ethics & Economics 51:36 - Rob's thoughts on the Future & Utopia Mentioned: 1) Monica Ospina - Founder of O Trade - https://otrade.ca/monica-ospina/ 2) Rebel Ideas - Book by Matthew Syed 3) Grow the Pie - Book by Alex Edmans 4) John Elkington is an author, advisor, and serial entrepreneur with an authority on corporate responsibility and sustainable development. 5) Milton Friedman was an American economist and statistician 6) The Good Ancestor - Book by Roman Krznaric Credits Cover Art: James O'Brien Music: A Journey Through The Universe – Lesion X --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/utopia-is-now/message