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Pricing Nature is a limited-series podcast from the Yale Center for Business and the Environment and the Yale Carbon Charge. It tells a story about the economics, politics, and history of carbon pricing, which many argue should play a critical role in any national climate policy. We feature conversations with carbon pricing experts from government, academia, and civil society. Join us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere else you listen. To learn more, visit our website, pricingnature.substack.com.
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Will fighting climate change require restructuring the global economy? Is a “carbon currency” the most intuitive or efficient solution to the climate crisis? In the Season 2 finale, Casey chats with Kim Stanley Robinson (Author, The Ministry for the Future), Kate Raworth (Economist and Author, Doughnut Economics), and Delton Chen (Founder, Global Carbon Reward initiative) about the pros and cons of pursuing a global currency that rewards carbon emission reduction and sequestration. Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
Could an economy that directly rewards carbon emissions reduction and sequestration be the solution to the climate crisis? In today’s episode, we explore proposals for a global carbon currency: one unit of currency for one ton of CO2 reduced or removed. We’ll hear from Suzi Kerr (Chief Economist, EDF), Bill English (Professor in the Practice of Finance, Formerly on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System), Vanessa Fajans-Turner (Executive Director, BankFWD; Candidate for Congress NY-22), Samuel Kortum (Professor of Economics, Yale University), Frank Van Gansbeke (Professor of the Practice, Middlebury College), and Diana Cárdenas (QOIN Foundation). Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
Are carbon offsets a viable option for decarbonizing the global economy? What problems do they solve? What problems do they create? We hear from Suzi Kerr (Chief Economist, EDF), Brad Gentry (Frederick K. Weyerhaeuser Professor in the Practice of Forest Resources Management and Policy, Yale University), Zack Parisa (CEO, Natural Capital Exchange), Anastasia O’Rourke (Managing Director, Yale Carbon Containment Lab), Dr. Charles Canham (Forest Ecologist, Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies), Kristen Lyons (Fellow, Oakland Institute), Kim Hellstrom (Strategy Lead, Sustainability, H&M Group), and Alex Barron (Assistant Professor, Environmental Science and Policy, Smith College). Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
Yale, Microsoft, H&M, Mahindra, Smith College, and University College London share lessons from their experience putting prices on their own carbon emissions. Casey Pickett, host of Pricing Nature and Director of the Yale Carbon Charge, shares experiences from the last six years and makes a big announcement about the future of carbon pricing at Yale. And we hear advice about internal carbon pricing from Joanna Marshall-Cook (Head of Sustainability Programmes, University College London), Kim Hellstrom (Strategy Lead, Sustainability, H&M Group), Elizabeth Willmott (Carbon Program Director, Microsoft), Anirban Ghosh (Chief Sustainability Officer, Mahindra Group), and Alex Barron (Assistant Professor, Environmental Science and Policy, Smith College & Co-author, “Internal Carbon Pricing in Higher Education Toolkit”).
What is “internal” carbon pricing? And why are more and more private companies and institutions using the tool to reduce their emissions? We hear from Elizabeth Willmott (Microsoft, Carbon Program Director), Anirban Ghosh (Chief Sustainability Officer, Mahindra Group), Kim Hellstrom (Strategy Lead, Sustainability, H&M Group), Alex Barron (Assistant Professor, Environmental Science and Policy, Smith College & Co-author, “Internal Carbon Pricing in Higher Education Toolkit”), and Long Lam (Lead Author, CDP’s “How-To Guide to Corporate Internal Carbon Pricing”). Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
A carbon price at the Panama Canal?! In this mini episode, Casey and Jacob hear from Maxim Rebolledo (Decarbonization, Canal de Panamá), and discuss the implications of private actors pricing greenhouse gas emissions. Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
What’s the best way to approach climate denialism? How should we feel if oil companies get rich solving the climate crisis? Do individuals have any power to address climate change? Casey discusses these questions and more with YouTube royalty Hank Green, a science communicator, author, and entrepreneur. Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
In the absence of climate policy at the federal level, what are US states doing to price their carbon emissions? And what does it take to get these subnational policies off the ground? The Pricing Nature team speaks to Paula Sardinas (Washington Build Back Black Alliance), Katie Dykes (Commissioner, CT Department of Energy & Environmental Protection), Rob Klee (Former Commissioner, CT Department of Energy & Environmental Protection), Martin Suuberg (Commissioner, Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection), Nicole Wong (Former Campaign Manager, Green For All), and Iliana Paul (Senior Policy Analyst, NYU Institute for Policy Integrity). Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
COP26 Part II: What happened at COP26? Why is the Conference of the Parties process so important? And what are its limitations? The Pricing Nature team hears from Jonathan Elkind (Columbia University Center on Global Energy Policy), Ineza Grace (Loss and Damage Youth Coalition), Patience Nabukalu (Fridays For Future Uganda), and Yale School of the Environment students Arunima Sircar, Anelise Zimmer, Ines Ayostina, and Luca Guadagno. Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
COP26 Part I: We discuss the theory and politics of the new global carbon trading system established by Article 6 of the Paris Agreement. How is this carbon trading system different from all the others? Let us count the ways. We’re joined by experts Gilles DuFrasne (Carbon Market Watch), Rishi Bhandary (Global Economic Governance Initiative, Boston University’s Global Development Policy Center), Bianca Gichangi (Eastern Africa Alliance on Carbon Markets and Climate Finance), and Michai Robertson (Alliance of Small Island States). Read more at pricingnature.substack.com
Pricing Nature is back for a second season. This year, we’ll explore carbon pricing beyond cap-and-trade and carbon taxes. We’ll cover creative ways of pricing carbon, from fees inside companies to markets for offsets. We’ll even explore a new idea for payments to reduce carbon in the atmosphere. We’ll speak with heroic local organizers, academic experts at Yale and beyond, YouTube royalty, one of the greatest living Sci-Fi authors, three commissioners of state-level climate policy, leaders at environmental nonprofits, and young advocates from around the world. To learn more, visit our website, pricingnature.substack.com.
In the final episode of Season 1, Casey, Naomi, and Jacob talk about the future of progressive climate policy. They speak with Michael Méndez (Assistant Professor at UC-Irvine, author of Climate Change from the Streets), Danny Cullenward (energy economist and lawyer at Stanford, author of Making Climate Policy Work), Keya Chatterjee (Executive Director of US Climate Action Network), and David Roberts (author of the Volts Newsletter), to understand what kind of climate policy progressives favor. Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
In today’s episode, Casey, Maria, and Naomi talk to conservative climate activists about why they support carbon pricing policy. We’ll hear from former Congressman Bob Inglis (RepublicEN.org), Kiera O’Brien (Young Conservatives for Carbon Dividends), former Congressman Carlos Curbelo, and Jerry Taylor (Niskanen Center). Read more at pricingnature.substack.com
In this special episode, Casey guides us through the stories of our conservative and progressive guests who are advocating for climate action. We’ll hear about the power of science, family, and faith to change hearts and minds. Featuring former congressman Bob Inglis (RepublicEN.org), Keira O’Brien (Young Conservatives for Carbon Dividends), former Congressman Carlos Curbelo, Jerry Taylor (Niskanen Center), Saya Ameli Hajebi (Sunrise Movement), and Keya Chatterjee (US Climate Action Network). Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
Jacob, Naomi, and Casey explore the obstacles a national carbon price has faced in the United States, and the argument for a different approach to climate action. They talk with Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Nat Keohane (Senior Vice President for Climate at EDF), Saya Ameli Hajebi (Sunrise Movement activist), Carlos Curbelo (Former Congressman R-FL 26), David Roberts (Author of Volts newsletter on clean energy and politics), and Susanne Brooks (Senior Director of U.S. Climate Policy at EDF).
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In Episode 3 of Pricing Nature, Jacob, Maria, and Casey chat with Sue Biniaz (Senior Fellow for Climate Change at the UN Foundation, and Visiting Lecturer at Yale), Dan Esty (Hillhouse Professor of Environmental Law and Policy at Yale), and David Roberts (Author of “Volts,” a newsletter on clean energy and politics, and formerly a journalist with Vox). Today’s episode tells the story of global climate negotiations, and how these important agreements have evolved over the last 30 years. Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
In today’s episode, Naomi and Casey speak with Nobel laureate William Nordhaus (a Sterling Professor of Economics at Yale), Fran Moore (an Assistant Professor of Environmental Science and Policy at UC Davis), Howard Shelanski (a Law Professor at Georgetown University and former White House administrator), and Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (US Senator from RI). They seek to understand the theory behind the “social cost of carbon”: the economic backbone of all carbon pricing schemes.
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Welcome to Pricing Nature, a new podcast from The Yale Center for Business and the Environment, and the Yale Carbon Charge. In this first episode, we break down the basics of pricing carbon dioxide, and other harmful greenhouse gases. We’re joined by Susanne Brooks, Senior Director of U.S. Climate Policy & Analysis at EDF, to talk about how to design good carbon pricing policies.
Read more at pricingnature.substack.com.
Welcome to Pricing Nature, a limited-series podcast from the Center for Business and the Environment at Yale and the Yale Carbon Charge. We’ll tell a story about the economics, politics, and history of carbon pricing, which many argue should play a critical role in any national climate policy. Join us to hear from experts about the ins and outs of carbon pricing policy.
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