Gratitude Through Hard Times

Episode OverviewIn this rich, sensory journey through the Eternal City, I sit down with food historian, author, and Rome expert Katie Parla, a woman whose love affair with Rome began at sixteen thanks to her mother’s quiet act of generosity. What started as a high school Latin club trip became a lifelong devotion to understanding the flavors, history, and soul of a city that was never meant to exist. Rome began as a malarial, snake-infested swamp, yet somehow became the beating heart of Western civilization.Katie has written, edited, or contributed to more than twenty books and countless articles in publications like The New York Times, Vogue, and The Guardian. Her newest work, Rome: A Culinary History Cookbook and Field Guide to the Flavors That Built a City, is not just another recipe collection. It’s a layered love letter, part history book, part field guide, and part emotional map to the spirit of a city that has endured famine, fire, empire, and rebirth. Together, we explore what Rome can teach us about leadership, gratitude, and the art of being human in an age of acceleration.We begin where all gratitude stories begin, at the table. Katie gives thanks to her mother, “Jojo,” who worked multiple jobs to make that first trip to Rome possible. Through her mother’s sacrifice, Katie learned the essence of perseverance, the same relentless spirit that built the city she now calls home. From there, we wander through the neighborhoods of Rome, from the ancient core to the medieval center, and finally to Testaccio, her favorite district, where modern graffiti meets ancient terracotta ruins. It’s there that Katie goes to meditate on impermanence and the balance between chaos and beauty.As our conversation unfolds, history becomes a mirror for modern leadership. We talk about Rome’s “bread and circuses,” how the government once used food and entertainment to keep citizens loyal, and we draw parallels to today’s corporate perks and engagement programs. We explore the emperors of old and the executives of now, and what it means to “be a Caesar, not an Augustus,” a leader who serves with benevolence and dignity rather than domination and fear. We even touch on the city’s engineering genius, from the 2,700 nasoni fountains that keep Romans hydrated to the grain ships that once fed an empire. Every system, every aqueduct, every loaf of bread carried a lesson about sustaining people, not just power.But Rome’s real brilliance lies in its contradictions, what I call the “and” mindset. It’s a city of war and peace, tragedy and triumph, speed and stillness. It forces us to hold two opposing truths at once: to hate what was violent and love what was beautiful, to accept the brokenness and still celebrate the feast. In our current age of AI and instant answers, Rome reminds us of the value of friction, imperfection, and effort.We wander next into the Roman Forum, where citizens once gathered to argue, trade, eat, and bear witness. It was the original “third place” between home and work, the birthplace of civic belonging, a space for conversation and connection. Katie draws a line from the Forum to today’s trattorias and pizza-by-the-slice counters, where people stand shoulder to shoulder, talking to strangers, sipping espresso, or sharing a quick lunch of supplì or cacio e pepe. These are the modern temples of togetherness.Then comes the food. Not just the postcard dishes of carbonara and amatriciana, but the soulful, often forgotten recipes of Rome’s working class: chicken gizzards with fettuccine, veal intestines simmered in tomato sauce, and involtini, rolled beef stuffed with prosciutto, carrots, and celery, cooked slowly until tender. Katie calls it “one pot, two dishes,” a metaphor for efficiency and abundance at once. Her approach to cooking, and to life, can be summed up in three simple words: just enough.By the end of our conversation, one theme rises above all others: dignity. From her mother’s resilience to the humble Roman bakers who built an empire on grain, from the laborers who carved aqueducts to the chefs who open their kitchens to curious foreigners, Katie’s gratitude is for everyone who never gave up. “Leave so much time in Rome unplanned,” she says, “and dare to have an adventure.” It’s not just travel advice, it’s a philosophy for life. Reflections and TakeawaysRome, like gratitude, is a practice. It reminds us to slow down, to see the sacred in the mundane, and to find beauty in imperfection. Leadership, whether in the Senate or the boardroom, is about giving people both challenge and dignity. Progress and empathy are not opposites, they are partners.Katie’s story reminds us that effort is its own art form. Whether you’re simmering a pot of cacciatore or steering a company through uncertainty, the recipe is the same: patience, precision, and a dash of love. The lesson of Rome is the lesson of humanity, that endurance, generosity, and curiosity will always outlast convenience. Explore FurtherKatie’s independently published masterpiece Rome: A Culinary History Cookbook and Field Guide to the Flavors That Built a City is available at shop.katieparla.com. You can find her Rome travel guides, restaurant recommendations, and food tours at katieparla.com, and follow her everyday adventures on Instagram at @katieparla.To explore more stories of gratitude, connection, and leadership, visit 747club.org and join our growing community. 

Episode OverviewIn this deeply personal episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra sits down in person with Sandra Campos, a trailblazing CEO, board advisor, and serial entrepreneur whose story spans global fashion houses, digital transformation, and compassionate leadership.From humble beginnings in her parents’ tortilla factory to leading billion-dollar brands like Diane von Furstenberg and PetMeds, Sandra’s journey is one of grit, grace, and reinvention. Sheopens up about her mother’s influence as an immigrant and lifelong learner, how that shaped her own discipline and drive, and why gratitude remains the throughline of every chapter in her life.Together, Chris and Sandra unpack the difference between knowledge and wisdom, exploring how true leadership comes not from perfection but from experience, the kind earned through risk-taking, failure, and self-belief. Sandra shares how she’s learning to slow down, to truly listen to the sounds around her, from the birds on her rescue horse farm to the people who cross her path, and why presence might be the most powerful skill in business today.They talk about the courage to show up before you’re ready, the importance of respect in partnerships, and how every ending can be the start of a new beginning if you meet it with optimism and curiosity. Sandra’s reflections on authenticity, self-authorship, and purpose offer timeless lessons for anyone navigating change or chasing meaning in modern leadership.This episode is a reminder that you can’t teach wisdom — you live it. It’s a celebration of resilience, risk, and gratitude, and an invitation to believe that, no matter your age or stage, you’re always just beginning.Themes & Highlights●​ How Sandra’s immigrant mother instilled grit, gratitude, and lifelong learning ●​ From “knowledge builds confidence” to “experience builds wisdom”●​ Taking uncalculated risks — and learning to thrive through failure ●​ The emotional intelligence behind leading through change ●​ Presence as the ultimate leadership skill●​  Why reinvention is not a restart, but a continuation of purpose​Why ListenAt a time when leadership often feels defined by speed and perfection, Sandra reminds us that true wisdom comes from slowing down, showing up, and learning through experience. Her journey from small-town Texas to the global stage is proof that success built on gratitude, curiosity, and courage doesn’t just change careers...it transforms lives.“Experience Builds Wisdom” is more than a conversation, it’s an invitation to see every risk, every chapter, and every quiet moment as a teacher.

Episode SummaryIn this deeply human and heartfelt conversation, Chris Schembra sits down with his longtime friend Kirti Naik, a powerhouse brand leader turned soulful storyteller, for an episode that moves beyond titles and accolades into the raw, unfiltered truth of a life well-lived. On this crisp New York City fall day, amid Yom Kippur reflections and the festive spirit of Diwali, Chris and Kirti explore the intertwined forces of fate, love, resilience, and identity.Kirti opens up about her unexpected journey into motherhood and how her daughter, Kiran, became her North Star, pushing her to finish business school while pregnant, guiding her to build a better life, and teaching her lessons in forgiveness and courage. Together, Chris and Kirti unpack the subtle art of pausing in a world obsessed with speed: pausing before responding to an email, pausing to think, pausing to realign with who we are and who we want to become.They delve into the heavy weight and quiet liberation of reputation, how cultural expectations and personal setbacks (like divorce) shape us, and how we can reclaim our own narrative even after painful turning points. Kirti shares how love and partnership with Greg have reshaped her family and her understanding of commitment — beyond paperwork and traditions — into something deeply chosen and resilient.The conversation moves fluidly from practical life strategies (like managing anxiety, editing before you send, embracing imperfection) to profound reflections on destiny (or “amor fati”), legacy, and the humility that comes with decades of personal and professional growth. We hear about parenting in New York City, the courage to let go of perfectionism, and how success is measured not just by business milestones but by the depth of relationships we nurture along the way.This is not a business episode,  it’s a blueprint for living with greater presence, courage, and gratitude. Whether you’re navigating big career decisions, untangling old expectations, or learning to pause before reacting, Kirti’s story is an invitation to slow down, reflect, and embrace the beautiful messiness of life.10 Great Quotes“Kids, don’t worry about people knowing you. Make yourself worth knowing.” — Chris (quoting Fiorello LaGuardia) “She was my North Star — the reason I wanted to be a better person, to work harder, and to finish what I started.” — Kirti “Progress comes from movement, not perfection.” — Chris “I’ve shifted from people pleasing to teaching and communicating what I authentically think.” — Kirti “Precision requires pause. Sometimes waiting 15 minutes changes everything.” — Chris “Reputation is hard to rewrite — but it’s not impossible when you lead with honesty and vulnerability.” — Kirti “Material things don’t really matter. We don’t actually need anything but each other and some Netflix.” — Kirti “We have to rise above business success and find success in our personal lives — the world needs that.” — Chris “Love doesn’t have to be defined by societal milestones. Commitment can be something deeply chosen.” — Kirti “It’s humbling to realize we’re still learning — not about tools or tactics, but about ourselves.” — Kirti 10 Key TakeawaysPause Before You React — Writing a draft and waiting before sending helps you edit, clarify, and prevent future missteps. Redefine Reputation — Your past doesn’t have to define you; vulnerability and new actions can reshape how others see you. Parenthood as Catalyst — Unexpected life events, like surprise motherhood, can bring purpose and resilience you didn’t know you had. Move from People Pleasing to Authenticity — Stop avoiding conflict; respectfully communicate your needs and boundaries. Love Beyond Paperwork — Lasting commitment isn’t about traditional milestones but about shared choice and partnership. Cultural Expectations Can Be Rewritten — Even deeply ingrained norms can shift when you choose your own happiness and truth. Imperfection Is Human — Let go of needing to be flawless; aim for 80–90% and move forward. True Success Is Relational — The depth of mentorship, family bonds, and love defines life more than job titles. Anxiety Can Be Managed with Pause — Small intentional habits — like stepping back before acting — can reduce fear and increase control. Fate vs. Coincidence — Sometimes the unexpected (from your child’s name to life detours) is guiding you toward who you’re meant to become. 

Episode SummaryIn this special episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra welcomes Drew Sullivan, a purpose-driven dealmaker, speaker advocate, and Senior Vice President at APB Speakers, for a raw and hope-filled conversation about the courage it takes to stop hiding and start living authentically.Drew’s story is both ordinary and extraordinary. Growing up as a middle child with ADHD in a sports-obsessed town, he was labeled as “wrong” more often than he was encouraged to be curious. Teachers told him to be quiet, behavioral charts measured his worth, and well-intentioned parents and doctors tried their best but often focused on what he did rather than why he felt what he felt. Those early messages led to decades of self-doubt, addiction, and feeling “othered.”But Drew’s life didn’t end there. Sobriety became his turning point, not just quitting substances but rebuilding identity from the inside out. He realized the same curiosity and big-heartedness he was punished for as a child had become his superpowers as an adult: the ability to connect deeply, ask better questions, and champion others’ voices.Chris and Drew unpack big ideas that apply to everyone, whether you’re a parent trying to raise emotionally healthy kids, a leader navigating change with your team, or someone working on your own healing. Together, they talk about how to move beyond trauma without ignoring it, how to strengthen relationships through curiosity and vulnerability, and how connection isn’t just nice to have, it’s essential for growth.They dive into practical tools and powerful frameworks:The Military-Style Debrief — After any event or risk, ask three questions: What went well? What could have gone better? What will we do differently next time? From What to Why — Lasting growth comes not from obsessing over what happened but from exploring why it happened and using that insight to break harmful cycles. Ubuntu Philosophy — “I am because we are.” Success is never a solo act. Long-term fulfillment comes from shared humanity and supporting each other’s growth. Inside-Out Living — Stop chasing outside validation (titles, applause, perfection) and build a life anchored in authenticity and personal truth.This episode also wrestles with one of today’s cultural tensions: the “cult of trauma.” We live in a time where looking backward has become a primary mode of healing, therapy, revisiting wounds, and retelling past pain. That work is necessary but incomplete. Chris and Drew challenge listeners to balance reflection with forward momentum, to ask not just what went wrong, but how do we build what’s next?Their conversation is deeply practical yet profoundly human. Drew shares intimate stories — from being excluded at eighth-grade basketball tryouts to the loneliness of early sobriety — and turns them into wisdom for anyone trying to live and lead differently. Chris opens up about his own childhood with ADHD and how empathy and gratitude saved his life and career. Together, they model what it looks like to have brave, healing, and hope-filled dialogue.At its heart, this episode is a call to action: to show up for yourself and others with dignity, curiosity, and presence; to give gratitude in a way that lands; to stop letting shame and isolation write your story; and to embrace connection as the bridge between pain and growth.Whether you’re a parent, an educator, a leader building culture, or someone just trying to live a more wholehearted life, you’ll leave with practical tools and renewed belief that storms don’t last forever, and that you’re not alone in the work of becoming.10 Great Quotes“Not all gratitude given is gratitude received. We have to give in the language others like to receive.” — Drew Sullivan “Solutions are not found in the what; they’re found in the why.” — Drew Sullivan “Every storm has to end at some point — the clouds have to clear.” — Drew Sullivan “Don’t play hide and seek with yourself. Stop letting your thoughts hide.” — Drew Sullivan “If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.” — Chris Schembra quoting Ubuntu “Without connection, there is no growth. It’s the water and fertilizer for real progress.” — Drew Sullivan “We spend so much emotional energy reliving what went wrong that we forget to dream about what can go right.” — Chris Schembra “Vulnerability 101: be honest about the truth of your life, not just where you are now but where you came from.” — Drew Sullivan “The greatest present you can give is your presence.” — Chris Schembra “When you know better, you do better — but only if you act on what you’ve learned.” — Drew Sullivan 10 Key TakeawaysEmpathy must lead to action — Listening and understanding are powerful, but transformation only happens when you do something with what you’ve learned. Reframe challenges into opportunities — Shift from “what went wrong” to “what can we do differently next time.” Ask “why,” not just “what” — Understanding the why behind behaviors, decisions, and pain creates the foundation for healing and growth. Connection is non-negotiable — Personal and professional growth withers without deep human relationships. Redefine vulnerability — Sharing your real story — even messy parts — builds trust and invites connection. Inside-out living beats outside-in validation — Chase alignment with values and purpose, not just achievements or appearances. Parents and leaders shape futures — Taking one extra step to understand and affirm can change someone’s entire trajectory. Reinvention is always possible — Like the Real Housewives metaphor, we all deserve new eras and second chances. Don’t let your past pilot your future — Carry your “stone,” but build the strength to make it a co-pilot, not the driver. Gratitude is a bridge — When expressed thoughtfully in someone’s love language, it deepens relationships and accelerates healing. 

Episode SummaryThis episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times is about one of the most important and misunderstood challenges in business today, how to build workplaces where people truly thrive.Host Chris Schembra welcomes Mark Rix, Group Managing Director of Wellbeing at Work, for an unfiltered conversation on belonging, resilience, and the human side of leadership. What makes this episode powerful isn’t just the frameworks and research Mark shares; it’s the raw, unexpected personal story that shaped his entire mission.At 18 years old, Mark found himself alone in South Africa’s gold mines, working one and a half kilometers underground among hundreds of men who didn’t speak his language. In an early and unforgettable moment, he was literally punched in the face for unknowingly saying something offensive in Afrikaans, a humiliating and dangerous misunderstanding that forced him to confront the difference between “blending in” and truly belonging. It also sparked a lifelong obsession with empathy, psychological safety, and how humans treat one another at work.Fast forward to today, and Mark leads a global movement to help organizations move wellbeing from a “nice-to-have” perk to a board-level strategy that drives engagement, innovation, and bottom-line results. His organization hosts summits on six continents, gathering thousands of leaders to explore the future of mental, social, and emotional wellbeing at work.Throughout the conversation, Chris and Mark explore:Why the next era of corporate wellbeing will be about social health — helping employees feel seen, safe, and connected. How to equip managers (most of whom were promoted without training) to coach with empathy and curiosity instead of simply direct or command. The role of shared language in creating psychological safety, and why your team’s inside jokes, acronyms, and short codes matter more than you think. Why leaders don’t have to rewrite every policy or undo every mandate; often, culture change begins by simply changing how you show up in the next conversation. How investing in employee wellbeing isn’t just ethical but deeply strategic, the highest-performing companies in the world are proving that people-first drives profit. This episode is as practical as it is inspiring. It reminds leaders that while technology and AI will keep reshaping the future of work, human connection remains our greatest competitive advantage.If you’ve been struggling with disengagement, low morale, or the exhaustion of leading through uncertainty, this conversation will give you both a fresh perspective and simple actions to start right away, like carving out time to talk, listen, and ask better questions.Above all, it’s a reminder that resilience and thriving cultures start with a choice: to lead with empathy and authenticity, one conversation at a time. 10 Memorable Quotes“You can blend but not belong. To bond, you have to give something of yourself.” — Mark Rix “Trust is built before it’s tested. If your people don’t feel safe, they won’t speak up when it matters.” — Chris Schembra “I realized after being punched that day — this is not how work should be. No one should feel unsafe simply trying to belong.” — Mark Rix “A shared language can literally save lives underground. In business, it can save culture.” — Chris Schembra “Most managers are promoted without the skills — or the mindset — to coach. And it’s costing engagement.” — Mark Rix “Empathy is listening to understand, then using that data to act differently tomorrow.” — Chris Schembra “Wellbeing isn’t fluffy. Companies investing in their people outperform the market.” — Mark Rix “You don’t have to change the policy to change the culture. Start by changing you.” — Chris Schembra “Connection is still our greatest competitive advantage — AI can enhance it but never replace it.” — Mark Rix “It doesn’t matter how hard you get punched; it’s about how well you get back up and keep leading with heart.” — Chris Schembra 10 Key TakeawaysBonding > Blending — True belonging comes when people feel safe to bring their full selves, not just adapt to fit in. Shared Language Matters — Developing clear, common language within teams builds trust and prevents miscommunication in high-stakes environments. Empathy Is Action-Oriented — It’s not enough to “feel for” others; leaders must use what they learn to lead differently. Managers Need Coaching Skills — Over half of managers aren’t prepared to lead; training them as coaches is one of the fastest ways to improve culture and engagement. Human Connection Fuels ROI — The best-performing companies on the stock market are investing heavily in employee wellbeing. Don’t Wait for Policy — Leaders can start culture change simply by slowing down, listening, and showing genuine interest. Social Wellbeing Is the New Frontier — Loneliness is an epidemic; companies must look beyond physical and mental health to build deep social connection. Technology Is a Tool, Not a Replacement — AI and data can measure and enhance wellbeing strategies but will never replace face-to-face connection. Your Personal Story Shapes Leadership — Early, even painful experiences can become catalysts for empathy-driven leadership. Resilience Is Built, Not Bought — Being “punched” — literally or figuratively — can teach leaders how to bounce back and guide others through adversity. 

Episode OverviewSometimes the most remarkable leaders don’t arrive at the top by climbing a neatly planned ladder, they stumble, pivot, and rebuild along winding roads. In this deeply personal and unexpectedly funny episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra welcomes Julie Peck, a transformative CEO whose story proves that a “curvy path” is not a flaw, it’s a strength.Julie’s life didn’t begin with obvious momentum. She grew up in a household that didn’t talk about feelings, in the shadow of a brilliant but stoic father and amid early self-doubt that left her with little sense of self-worth. By her twenties, she found herself adrift, unhappy, financially unstable, stuck in unfulfilling relationships, and ultimately failing out of college. She ended up living in a crumbling apartment above a record store, sleeping on a mattress she salvaged from a frat house dumpster. From the outside, it looked like failure; from the inside, it felt like rock bottom.But Julie didn’t stay there. In this conversation, she shares the turning points that changed her trajectory: discovering the courage to face old wounds through therapy and 12-step recovery, deciding to rebuild her education while working full-time, and learning to measure her worth by more than just professional success. Along the way, she tapped into something profound, the ability to take one small action forward even when the long-term plan is unclear.That perseverance reshaped her career. Julie went from customer service to HR innovator to creative director, learning to package her “pile of skills and behaviors” into new opportunities. She took smart risks, like organizing a union drive not to win but to force leadership to listen — and watched those risks lead to promotions and purpose. Ultimately, she rose into C-suite leadership and CEO roles, scaling tech companies, driving triple-digit growth, and building cultures where people thrive. But she never forgot the messy middle or the tools that helped her climb out.Together, Chris and Julie go far beyond résumés and revenue. They unpack what resilience really looks like: the gritty inner work of building self-worth when no one hands it to you, the power of visualizing a future even if you don’t know how to get there, and the discipline of balancing the things you must do, should do, and want to do. They talk about how gratitude rewires imposter syndrome, how thanking those who invest in you is a way of saying, “I believe your belief in me.” They explore why everyone — even highly accomplished leaders — is “winging it” every day, and why that’s not weakness but reality.For anyone navigating uncertainty, Julie’s journey is a masterclass in turning pain into purpose and mistakes into momentum. It’s a reminder that your story doesn’t have to be perfect to be powerful, in fact, the curve is where character is forged.This episode is a warm invitation to pause, reflect, and reconnect with what matters: your own worth, the people who’ve lifted you along the way, and the belief that no setback is final. Whether you’re rebuilding after a career stumble, leading through change, or simply searching for hope in a hard season, Julie’s voice will feel like a steady hand on your shoulder.Stay tuned for part two, where Chris and Julie will dive deeper into leadership in the age of AI, the behaviors that outlast fast-changing technical skills, and how curiosity and gratitude shape the future of work.10 Standout Quotes“I had to organically discover my own self-worth. That’s been a 35-year journey, and I’m not done.” — Julie Peck “Everybody is unqualified for whatever is going to come on this day because they’ve never had this day before. We’re all winging it.” — Julie Peck “Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, even in the hardest seasons, you’re good at something. Start there.” — Julie Peck “Imposter syndrome is basically telling the people who invested in you: ‘I don’t trust your judgment.’ Gratitude flips that script.” — Chris Schembra “The impediment to action advances action; what stands in the way becomes the way.” — Marcus Aurelius (quoted by Chris) “Progress comes from movement, not perfection. Just take one small step forward.” — Chris Schembra “The curvy path is a gift, because every detour teaches you something you’ll need later.” — Julie Peck “Skills expire faster than ever; behaviors like curiosity, resilience, and asking better questions endure.” — Chris Schembra “Boundaries are self-worth in action. Saying no is a complete sentence.” — Julie Peck “Connection is the opposite of feeling alone in the world, and it’s built one honest conversation at a time.” — Julie Peck 10 Key TakeawaysThe “Curvy Path” Is Normal: Career and life rarely follow a straight line; detours and setbacks are often where resilience is forged. Self-Worth Can Be Built: Therapy, reflection, and courageous action help rewire old narratives of “not enough.” Everyone Feels Like an Imposter: High achievers quietly doubt themselves — knowing this is freeing and normalizing. Gratitude Combats Self-Doubt: Thanking those who invest in you reframes fear and reinforces your value. Skills Fade — Behaviors Last: Curiosity, learning agility, and empathy outlast technical know-how in an AI-driven workplace. Visualize the Long Game: Thinking 15–20 years ahead helps shape better short-term decisions and career pivots. Boundaries Are Essential: Healthy limits protect time, energy, and self-worth, enabling sustainable success. Use Work as a Launchpad, Not an Escape: Achievements can build confidence but shouldn’t mask personal growth gaps. Take Brave Micro-Steps: Big change starts with one small action; movement matters more than perfection. Connection Breaks Isolation: Vulnerable storytelling, mentorship, and shared humanity turn loneliness into belonging. 

In a time when the headlines are bleak and social feeds are filled with outrage, what does it mean to be deliberately optimistic? In this episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra sits down with returning guest Mattan Griffel, two-time Y Combinator–backed founder, award-winning Columbia Business School professor, and longtime startup coach, to rethink optimism from the inside out.This isn’t a conversation about pretending everything is fine. It’s a practical, science-backed exploration of how to keep moving forward when the world tries to convince you to freeze. Chris and Mattan unpack the psychology of negativity, including the brain’s nine-to-one negative memory bias, nostalgia’s hidden trap, and how media algorithms profit from fear, and then turn to the tools that can rewire us toward progress and resilience.Along the way, they revisit some of Mattan’s most powerful ideas: the courage of “naive optimism” that makes founders start companies against impossible odds; serendipity bombs, small outward actions that quietly build networks and opportunity; and the truth that being wrong most of the time is the price of doing something original.The conversation is both personal and practical. Chris shares stories of producing a two-man play in Beverly Hills under the threat of a record-breaking El Niño storm, and how standing in the room with committed collaborators fueled hope despite fear. Mattan reflects on early YouTube criticism that almost derailed him, and how understanding our negativity bias changed his response to rejection and failure.Listeners will also hear how positive emotions aren’t just nice-to-have; they’re powerful mental technology. Chris cites Barbara Fredrickson’s “broaden-and-build” research, showing how gratitude, curiosity, and empathy expand our thought–action repertoire, unlock creativity, and make new solutions visible. Together they argue that optimism isn’t fluffy, it’s a survival skill in an age of AI disruption, social media outrage cycles, and cultural pessimism.By the end of the episode, you’ll have practical habits to invite luck and possibility into your own life: connect generously, say yes early and often, ship ideas at 90% instead of chasing perfection, and create rooms where pessimism can’t dominate. Most importantly, you’ll be reminded that hope is not passive, it’s built one intentional step at a time.10 Quotes“Optimism isn’t blind faith that everything will be fine, it’s the conviction that progress is buildable.” — Mattan“Our brains take in nine bits of negative information for every one bit of positive. That’s biology, not failure.” — Chris“Nostalgia can be beautiful, but it’s often denial, an inability to process the present.” — Chris“Systems are self-healing if we let them. The line of human progress trends up and to the right, even if it wobbles.” — Mattan“Negativity sells. Each negative word in a headline can boost clicks by 2.3%, but positive words get ignored.” — Chris“You have to be wrong most of the time to create something new. Error tolerance is optimism in action.” — Mattan“The stupid way to be selfish is to seek happiness for yourself alone; the intelligent way is to work for the welfare of others.” — Dalai Lama (quoted by Chris)“Say yes early and often because most conversations won’t go anywhere, but the one that does can change your life.” — Mattan“Progress comes from movement, not perfection. Press go at 90%.” — Chris“Positive emotions broaden your thought–action repertoire, gratitude and curiosity literally rewire your brain for resilience.” — Chris (referencing Barbara Fredrickson)10 Big TakeawaysOptimism is a discipline, not a mood. It’s about choosing to believe in forward momentum despite uncertainty.Understand your brain’s negativity bias. We’re wired to remember threats — knowing this can help us reframe and resist doomscrolling.Question nostalgia. Looking back with rose-colored glasses can fuel pessimism about the present.Negativity is profitable — be aware of media incentives. Don’t let clickbait headlines distort your worldview.Design serendipity. Small, outward-focused actions (helping others, showing up, connecting dots) compound over time.Practice error tolerance. Innovation and growth require being wrong most of the time; progress lives in mistakes.Generosity drives returns. Investing in other people — time, knowledge, introductions — creates long-term opportunity and resilience.Say yes more (strategically). Especially early in your journey, embrace exploration; one connection can transform everything.Start before you’re ready. Perfectionism delays progress; ship at 90% and learn in motion.Positive emotions fuel creativity. Simple acts of gratitude, kindness, and curiosity expand your capacity to see solutions and possibilities.On Negativity Bias & Media OutrageAdam Mastroianni & Daniel Gilbert’s Nature paper — The illusion of moral declineSteven Pinker’s The Better Angels of Our Nature (book summary)Tobias Rose-Stockwell — The Outrage MachineUpworthy headline negativity study (Columbia Journalism Review)On Positive Emotion & OptimismBarbara Fredrickson’s “Broaden-and-Build Theory” explainerDalai Lama quote on “intelligent selfishness”Adam Grant’s Give and TakeOn Startup Mindset & SerendipityMattan Griffel’s Medium essay: “You Have to Be Wrong”Mattan Griffel on Designing Serendipity (Forbes)How to Build Serendipity in Your Career (Harvard Business Review)On Connection & GenerosityChris Schembra’s Rolling Stone column archiveIkigai framework explainerPwC research on ROI of well-being programs

Episode SummaryIn this special episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra sits down with Swapnil Shinde, a three-time entrepreneur and the co-founder and CEO of Zeni, the AI-powered finance platform transforming how startups manage their financial operations.Swapnil’s journey is a story of resilience, risk-taking, and relentless alignment with purpose. He shares how his very first startup—an early Bollywood music streaming service—nearly broke him as he faced late-night calls from music label executives, endless licensing negotiations, and the weight of operating in an industry he barely understood. Instead of giving up, those painful years became his greatest teacher, showing him how to manage stress, build courage, and navigate uncertainty. That experience laid the foundation for his second company, Mezi, an AI travel assistant acquired by American Express, and now his third, Zeni, which is reshaping the future of startup finance.But what makes Swapnil stand out is not just his entrepreneurial track record. It’s his deep conviction that true success begins on the inside. He describes gratitude as “strength training for your heart” and insists that life must feel good internally before it can ever look good externally. Meditation, mindfulness, and intentional daily rituals are cornerstones of his leadership. He blocks time every morning to ground himself—through Ayurvedic practices, breathwork, and meditation—before leading his team and scaling a company in hypergrowth.Throughout the conversation, Chris and Swapnil explore how slowing down can actually accelerate growth, why trusting your team and delegating is essential for visionary leadership, and how to separate vanity metrics from what really matters in building sustainable businesses. They also reflect on the dangers of “I’ll be happy when…” thinking, and the freedom that comes when you align with your life’s mission in the present moment.In a deeply moving section of the episode, Swapnil pays tribute to his late mother, Chaya, an artist who taught him and his twin brother to paint from the age of three. Those lessons in creativity and imagination, he says, were really lessons in how to dream and how to create—skills that became the backbone of his entrepreneurial journey. Speaking in front of one of her paintings during the interview, Swapnil shares how her influence continues to shape his life and leadership.This episode is a powerful reminder that behind every startup success story is a human being navigating hard times, rewiring through gratitude, and finding strength in stillness. Whether you’re a founder, leader, or simply someone searching for deeper alignment in your own life, Swapnil’s insights will inspire you to pause, reflect, and take bold steps toward building not just a business, but a meaningful legacy.10 Key Quotes“Gratitude is like strength training for your heart.” – Swapnil Shinde“Slowing down is the best way to run fast.” – Swapnil Shinde“The absence of knowledge teaches you to take risks you’d never take if you knew the pitfalls.” – Swapnil Shinde“If you don’t follow your gut, you will always feel incomplete.” – Swapnil Shinde“Life needs to look good from the inside before it can look good from the outside.” – Swapnil Shinde“The fewer things you have to do, the more time you have to think. The more you think, the more strategic you become.” – Swapnil Shinde“Are you aligned with your life’s mission? If you are, work feels like a hobby.” – Swapnil Shinde“Building sustainable long-term businesses is more important than growth at all costs.” – Swapnil Shinde“My mother taught me to paint at age three—and unknowingly, she taught me how to dream and create.” – Swapnil Shinde“Gratitude journaling and affirmations are a game changer. They rewire your brain toward health and optimism.” – Swapnil Shinde10 Key TakeawaysHard times can be teachers – painful entrepreneurial experiences build resilience and stress tolerance.Ignorance can be an advantage – not knowing all the risks can free you to take bold leaps.Gut as compass – true alignment comes from following intuition supported by meditation and reflection.Slowing down accelerates progress – stillness, meditation, and focus create clarity and expand time.Morning rituals matter – Swapnil’s daily turmeric-honey-lemon drink, breathwork, and meditation ground his leadership.Delegate and trust your team – great CEOs keep their to-do lists short by empowering 10x leaders.Measure what matters, not vanity metrics – focus on revenue, margins, and automation rates, not money raised or employee count.Sustainable businesses > growth at all costs – the startup landscape has shifted away from reckless scaling.Gratitude is proactive power – journaling and expressing thanks outwardly rewires perspective and culture.Legacy of love – Swapnil’s late mother, Chaya, instilled creativity and resilience that continues to guide his entrepreneurial mission.Guest BioSwapnil Shinde is the co-founder and CEO of Zeni, an AI-powered finance platform that automates bookkeeping, bill pay, reimbursements, and CFO-level insights in real time. A three-time entrepreneur, Swapnil co-founded Mezi, an AI-driven travel assistant acquired by American Express, and Dhingana, a Bollywood music streaming service acquired by Rdio. Alongside his identical twin brother Snehal, he has built a reputation as a visionary founder, angel investor, and advisor to AI startups.When he’s not scaling companies, Swapnil is passionate about Bollywood music, painting, meditation, and empowering entrepreneurs to align their work with their life’s mission.Learn more about Swapnil and Zeni:Zeni Official Website Swapnil Shinde on LinkedIn Follow Zeni on LinkedIn

Episode OverviewWhat does it mean to live a life worth talking about?In this deeply moving and soul-stirring episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra invites us into an extraordinary conversation with Seth Dechtman, a man whose journey has been defined not by fame or fanfare, but by grit, love, listening, and legacy.The story begins with a question Chris has asked to thousands of people: Who is one person you’ve never thought to thank? Seth doesn’t hesitate, he honors his mother, Lenore, a woman who raised four children alone after the sudden passing of her husband. In Seth’s words, her life was a masterclass in grace, humility, and strength. Her resilience wasn’t loud, it was deliberate. Her courage wasn’t showy, it was sacred. That tribute sets the tone for everything that follows.From there, we follow Seth’s winding journey from a paperboy in New Jersey to an international basketball coach in Venezuela, from assisting coaching legends to curating keynotes for some of the biggest brands in the world. Along the way, we hear about the founding of Planet Basketball, how it was never meant to be a business, but rather an invitation to create joy, connection, and opportunity through sport.But this episode isn’t about basketball. It’s about what it takes to create something from nothing. It’s about choosing to see life as a blank canvas every single day, even when the world hands you a palette of pain. It’s about knowing that every person you meet, every speaker you book, every player you coach, every child you raise, is a chance to serve, elevate, and love.Seth shares a refreshing vulnerability rarely heard from someone in the world of high-stakes events and corporate keynotes. He admits that wisdom doesn’t come from reading books or attending conferences. It comes from falling off the bike. From saying the wrong thing. From getting back up, and listening harder the next time.Chris and Seth explore what it means to build a winning mindset, not the kind that craves podiums or applause, but the kind that recognizes victory in perseverance, curiosity, and meaningful connection. They dive into the power of words, how to unlearn ego, and the responsibility we all have to acknowledge those who have shaped us.The stories are rich. The lessons are layered. And the message is clear: You didn’t get here alone. And there is a village, a legacy, and a lineage of love standing behind your every success.Whether you're a parent, a coach, an entrepreneur, or someone simply trying to make sense of your next chapter. This episode is a reminder that life is an adventure, and every day is a new chance to choose love, gratitude, and growth.10 Key TakeawaysGratitude is Transformational: Seth’s tribute to his mother, Lenore, reminds us that gratitude isn’t just a mindset, it’s a guiding compass through life’s toughest moments.Create from the Blank Canvas: Each day is a fresh opportunity to create something meaningful. You don’t need to be perfect, you just need to begin.Adversity Builds Legacy: From losing his father as a teen to rebuilding life in Denver, Seth’s story exemplifies how adversity can become the soil where resilience grows.Winning Is the Journey: It’s not about the podium, it’s about the process, the teammates, and the heart you put into every step of the climb.Words Hold Power: The words we use can either uplift or damage. Seth urges us to speak with intention, because “if you're casual with your words, you cause casualties.”Leadership Is Love in Action: Whether booking a speaker or raising a child, Seth’s ethos is simple: lead with love, and the results will follow.Life Imitates Sport: Lessons from the basketball court—discipline, coaching, failure, teamwork—show up in business and life in powerful ways.Legacy Is Found in Service: The most successful people Seth works with are those who serve others first. Greatness is built in the agency of others.Wisdom Comes from Doing: You can’t read your way into experience. You must live it. Bite the apple. Fall off the bike. Get back up.Give It All Away: In a world full of secrets and ego, Seth lives by the philosophy of radical generosity. “Give everything. That’s where the magic lives.”10 Memorable Quotes  “Life is a work of art, but you don’t have to be a Picasso.”  “If you’re casual with your words, you cause casualties.”  “Her inner strength was grace, humility, and the ability to show weakness.”  “Sales doesn’t solve everything. Wisdom does.”  “You wake up every day with a blank canvas, what you paint is up to you.”  “Love is the only virtue that has no extreme.” - Felipe Gomez  “The greatness in your life is in the agency of others.”  “There’s no losing, only learning. There’s no failing, only growth.”  “Bite the apple and fall off your bike. That’s how you know you’re alive.”  “The world gives you data. Wisdom is choosing what to do with it.” Guest Bio: Seth Dechtman  Seth Dechtman is the founder of The Keynote Curators, a keynote speaker agency dedicated  to matching world-class speakers with world-class events. With over 17 years of experience in  the speaking industry, Seth has worked with iconic brands like Apple, Microsoft, Ford,  Coca-Cola, and more.  Seth’s approach isn’t just about finding speakers, it’s about curating transformational experiences. Whether rescuing a last-minute event or crafting VIP magic, his work is grounded in trust, wisdom, and results.  Contact: info@thekeynotecurators.comCall to Action  If this episode moved you, take a moment to thank someone who’s helped shape your journey.  Reflect on the people behind your success and let them know their impact matters.  Share this episode with a friend, mentor, coach, or parent.  Subscribe to Gratitude Through Hard Times for more raw, real, and remarkable stories.

Episode SummaryIn this powerful, emotionally resonant episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra sits down with one of the world’s most respected thought leaders on human-centered performance: Ryan Estis.Ryan isn't just a keynote speaker or former Fortune 500 Chief Revenue Officer. He’s a guide for leaders navigating complexity, a man who’s lived the tension between growth and burnout, performance and peace, ambition and alignment. Through stories both deeply personal and professionally profound, Ryan takes us behind the curtain of a life built on momentum through harmony—and how choosing wellness, wisdom, and worth have shaped his impact. From founding ImpactEleven (which achieved a 500% growth rate, 1300% increase in shareholder value, and 90% client retention in just two years), to standing ovations across global stages, Ryan’s track record is undeniable. But what makes this episode different is what’s unsaid—the inner work of reclaiming health, reconnecting to truth, and redefining success not by how far we go, but by how deeply we live. Together, Chris and Ryan explore: the meaning of legacy and how wisdom passed down from a father becomes a compass,the role of weak ties and long-held partnerships like Lynn in a world obsessed with speed,the power of surrender and how BDSM culture taught Chris to drop into presence and care,and the hard-earned truth that we must unlearn external validation to live our truth.This episode is part mentorship session, part love letter to resilience, and part rallying cry for those who feel like they’re achieving outwardly, yet quietly burning out inside.10 Memorable Quotes“Success without fulfillment and feeling good is failure.” – Ryan Estis“You have to borrow someone else’s belief in you until your own catches up.” –Ryan Estis“Don’t wreck the product. You’re the product.” – Ryan Estis“Risk more than others think is safe. Care more than others think is wise. Dream more than others think is practical.” – Words of Wisdom from Ryan’s father“To connect in service, you must first live from your center.” – Ryan Estis“Gratitude isn’t just for the good times. It’s best practiced through the hard times.”– Chris Schembra“The world will define you—if you let it.” – Ryan Estis“Every person has the wisdom they need. It was put there for them.” – Ryan Estis“Live your truth. It’s the kindest thing you can do for yourself—and for others.” – Ryan Estis“You’re not the first person with a message on their heart who’s blown the moment.” – Adam “Smiley” Poswolsky, as quoted by Chris10 Key Takeaways1. The Journey Isn’t Linear—But It’s Worth It.Chris’s lowest speaking moment led him directly to Ryan, proof that our darkest hours often plant the seeds of the brightest chapters.2. Don’t Just Grow Fast. Grow From Your Center.Ryan’s success wasn’t a straight hustle; it required slowing down, getting healthy, and aligning with values like momentum through harmony.3. Your Legacy May Live in a Wooden Box.A literal box of quotes from Ryan’s dad revealed the timeless wisdom that now shapes how he leads, speaks, and lives. These quotes became mantras.4. The Quiet People Beside You Are Often the Most Powerful.Ryan’s long-standing partnership with Lynn, his business manager since his first job out of college, is a testament to loyalty, presence, and consistency.5. Define Success On Your Terms—Then Redefine It Again.Whether it’s writing a book with his brother or shifting his health trajectory, Ryan models how to evolve your definition of winning.6. Unlearning Is Just As Important As Learning.Ryan had to unlearn the compulsion to respond to every piece of feedback and external pressure. His current work is about choosing inner authority.7. Your Best Work Comes From Alignment.From Ryan’s gesture of heart → head → hands, we learn that when your beliefs, mindset, and actions align, magic happens.8. Weak Ties Are Stronger Than You Think.Inspired by Granovetter’s 1973 study, the episode celebrates the strength of those people we see occasionally but who shape us profoundly.9. There’s Power in Personal Rituals.Whether it’s opening the wisdom box or walking back through difficult memories, grounding rituals help us stay human in a fast-paced world.10. Human Be-ing > Human Doing.Ryan and Chris both remind us: Your presence is your power. Stop outsourcing your identity. Show up fully. Live from your center. Links & ResourcesPrepare for Impact by Ryan EstisLearn More About ImpactElevenBarbara Fredrickson’s Broaden-and-Build Theory of Positive EmotionMark Granovetter’s Study: The Strength of Weak TiesMore on Functional Medicine

Episode DescriptionIn this electrifying episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, Chris Schembra sits down with transformational speaker, coach, and author Juan Bendana, whose new book Confident by Choice is poised to reshape how we think about courage, action, and self-belief.This conversation dives deep into a liberating truth: confidence isn’t a fixed trait—it's a daily decision. Together, Chris and Juan unpack the Confidence Cycle, a four-part science-backed framework (Micro Energy → Micro Courage → Micro Action → Micro Proof) designed to help everyday people break through fear and build an inspired life—one step at a time.But this episode is more than a framework. It’s a heart-to-heart about mentorship, identity, failure, and the beauty of baby steps. Juan opens up about battling binge eating, hitting rock bottom, and how a good friend’s invitation to California helped him reset his entire life. From the weight of imposter syndrome to the surprising science behind confidence and Olympic achievement, Juan reminds us that we are all capable of change—especially when we stop trying to get it perfect and start moving with purpose.If you’ve ever felt stuck, scared, or unsure where to begin, this episode is your signal to start. Listen in, take a breath, borrow some belief, and get ready to build the life you know is waiting for you. 10 Quotes from the Episode:“Confidence is not the absence of self-doubt. It’s the willingness to act anyway.” – Juan Bendana “The way out is through. And the way through is trust.” – Chris Schembra “Confident people spend more time with self-doubt than less confident people. They just have a better relationship with it.” – Juan Bendana “When something bad happens, most people ask, ‘What’s wrong with me?’ Confident people ask, ‘What do I do next?’” – Juan Bendana “Energy is the spark. Courage is the ignition. Action is the engine. Proof is the fuel.” – Chris Schembra “You can borrow someone else’s confidence. Just try on their life like it’s a fresh pair of Jordans.” – Juan Bendana “You wouldn’t worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.” – Eleanor Roosevelt (quoted by Juan) “The people in your life need you more than you think. Build your confidence, then give it away.” – Juan Bendana “Olympians aren’t born more confident. They just commit to small steps over time.” – Chris Schembra “I’m not there… yet. That single word creates space for growth, grace, and transformation.” – Juan Bendana 10 Key Takeaways:Confidence is a process, not a personality trait. It’s something we build through micro decisions, not something we’re born with or without. Micro Energy is the foundation. Whether it’s rest, excitement, curiosity, or joy—building momentum starts with finding even the smallest spark. Micro Courage means choosing discomfort on purpose. Confidence grows when we lean into fear, not when we avoid it. Micro Action is where transformation begins. Even walking to the gym without going inside can be a powerful first step. Micro Proof is confidence in motion. Success and failure both offer evidence that we’re capable of growth. You don’t have to do it alone. Mentorship, community, and borrowed belief are part of the journey. Failure builds confidence when it’s reframed. Trying and failing proves you had the courage to show up, and that’s enough. Imposter syndrome is a sign of growth. It shows you're operating at your edge, where confidence can be forged. Language matters. Swapping “I can’t” for “I can’t… yet” changes fixed mindsets into growth mindsets. Confidence creates identity shifts. When you accumulate enough proof, you don’t just act differently—you become someone new. Suggested Follow-Up Actions for Listeners:Pre-order Juan’s book Confident by Choice (link in show notes)—and send it to someone who needs a boost of belief. Do one micro action today toward a goal you’ve been putting off—send the email, take the walk, make the ask. Reflect and journal: Where in your life are you telling yourself "I'm not enough"? Rewrite that story with "...yet." Send a voice note to a friend or team member with words of confidence. “You’re amazing. I’m glad you’re here.” Reach out to Juan on LinkedIn and say “You’re welcome”—as a callback to the moment he thanked all the strivers listening. Episode Links:📚 Pre-Order Confident by Choice by Juan Bendana🌐 Follow Juan on LinkedIn📨 Contact Juan directly via email in the show notes 🎧 Subscribe to Gratitude Through Hard Times on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite app

Episode SummaryIn this riveting and deeply personal conversation, Chris Schembra sits down with Grace Smith — one of the world’s most respected hypnotherapists and the founder of the #1 hypnotherapy brand in the world — to explore how hypnosis can unlock peak performance, emotional clarity, and authentic leadership in the modern workplace.Chris opens the episode by recounting how Grace helped him through a dark moment in 2021, using hypnotherapy to reconnect him to purpose, possibility, and a record-breaking year in business. From there, the conversation expands to cover Grace’s origin story, her groundbreaking work with high-achieving CEOs, and why hypnosis is less about “fixing” and more about revealing the strength already inside us.Grace shares stunning stories from her early career — including how she helped a paralyzed man regain movement in a single session, a man who would later become her father-in-law. Together, they explore how the subconscious governs behavior, how leaders can reprogram outdated belief systems, and why gratitude often lives just beneath stress, waiting to be uncovered.This episode is a masterclass in neuroscience, personal growth, and emotional intelligence for anyone looking to lead with clarity and courage in a world of chaos. Key ThemesSubconscious blocks and business growthThe science of theta brainwave states and peak performanceHow trauma and stress quietly shape executive decision-makingWhy hypnosis helps leaders find clarity, confidence, and intuitionThe power of gratitude as a renewable energy sourceHow to lead with presence in a world of distractionNotable Quotes“When the subconscious is working against you, you’ll never reach your true potential.” – Grace Smith“Gratitude is there—it’s just buried beneath stress. Hypnosis helps you feel what’s already been inside you.” – Grace Smith“You’re not fixing broken people—you’re polishing the gem that was always there.” – Chris Schembra“Hypnosis gave me the pause I needed to take action toward healing. One week later, I bought a ticket to Italy.” – Chris Schembra“The brain doesn’t just change overnight because your circumstances improve. You have to rewire it—consciously.” – Grace Smith“I work with people whose decisions shift tectonic plates. When their subconscious is clear, the world moves with more grace.” – Grace Smith“Every subconscious breakthrough is followed by what I call a bonus miracle—change you didn’t even expect.” – Grace Smith“When you’re in theta, you bypass the ego. That’s where the intuition lives. That’s where the clarity begins.” – Grace Smith“We’re not adding anything. We’re removing what’s in the way of who you already are.” – Grace Smith“Hypnosis isn’t mind control. It’s mindset liberation.” – Grace Smith“Grace didn’t just help me recover—she helped me remember who I was before the noise.” – Chris Schembra“You can read every business book in the world. But if your subconscious is working against you, you’re building on sand.” – Chris Schembra“She’s not giving you a new mind—she’s handing you the keys to the one you forgot you had.” – Chris Schembra“Sometimes the only way forward is to pause long enough to hear the voice underneath the fear.” – Chris SchembraFeatured StoriesGrace’s first hypnotherapy session helped her quit smoking — and changed the course of her lifeHow a United Nations peacekeeper paralyzed from a stroke moved his hand again in a single sessionChris’s vulnerable account of his 2021 mental health crisis and the role Grace played in his recoveryWhy CEOs with billion-dollar companies are turning to hypnotherapy for their next breakthroughThe neuroscience of flow, intuition, and decision-making under pressureResources and LinksGrace App: Hypnotherapy on-demand for stress, sleep, success, and moreLearn more about 1:1 executive coaching with Grace

In this deeply moving and insight-rich episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra welcomes Sara Hardwick, the Community Relationship Strategist at the Gift•ology Group and steward of the late John Ruhlin’s enduring legacy. What begins as a conversation about gifting quickly unfolds into a masterclass in human connection, spiritual resilience, and the transformative power of long-game generosity.Sara shares her unexpected journey into this world of relational marketing—how a nudge from her college roommate and a single Google search led her to John’s work, and how her bold outreach blossomed into a mentorship, a career, and a calling. Chris and Sara reflect on how the principles of Beyond Gift•ology are not just business strategies—they’re spiritual frameworks for living well, loving deeply, and leading with purpose.The episode pays tribute to John Ruhlin, a father, husband, and business visionary who turned gifting into an art form and relationship-building into an enterprise. John passed away in 2024, but his wisdom—"Relationships can take you places marketing can’t"—lives on in the systems, stories, and spirit that Sara now helps shepherd to the world.Together, Chris and Sara unpack practical strategies from Beyond Gift•ology: how to build a business based on Return on Relationship (ROR), how to gift without branding or ego, and how to become what Adam Grant calls a “strategic giver”—someone who gives generously and wisely without burning out.They explore the nuances between swag and soul, between a gift that gathers dust and a gift that transforms a relationship, and between a one-off act of kindness and a lifestyle of sustained generosity. Sara also speaks vulnerably about her faith journey, how her relationship with God guides her every decision, and how grief, gratitude, and giving are all connected.Chris draws parallels between his own work at the dinner table and John’s commitment to elevating relationships through thoughtful gestures. They explore how tiny, consistent acts—handwritten notes, engraved knives, warm introductions—create ripple effects that build not just revenue, but legacy.Whether you're a founder, a sales leader, a service-based professional, or simply someone who wants to live more intentionally in your relationships, this episode offers a generous mix of soul and strategy. It’s a reminder that business doesn’t have to be cold, marketing doesn’t have to be manipulative, and giving—when done well—can be your greatest competitive edge.What You'll Hear in This Episode➤ A Powerful Opening TributeChris opens with a personal story of how a 20-minute call with John Ruhlin in 2017 changed his life. That call turned into a two-and-a-half-hour conversation, a lasting mentorship, and the permission to go “all-in” on human connection.➤ Sara’s Origin Story: From College Gifting Club to Gift•ology LeaderYou’ll hear how Sara’s best friend Chloe encouraged her to Google “gift giving company”—a search that led to John Ruhlin’s work and, eventually, to Sara founding the internet’s largest gifting community while still in college.➤ The Long Game of Generosity: ROR > ROISara and Chris dive deep into the difference between Return on Investment (ROI) and Return on Relationships (ROR). Sara explains why short-term thinking in business keeps us stuck—and how giving first, without expecting anything in return, can actually become your greatest long-term growth engine.➤ Gifting as Strategy, Not SwagSara outlines the key rules of strategic gifting:It’s not about you—it’s about the recipient. No logos, ever. Personalize for their life, not your brand. Love on the inner circle—spouses, kids, even the family dog. Focus on “practical luxuries” that create 5,475+ moments of thoughtfulness over time.➤ The Rise of the Rich Relationship SocietySara introduces the R.I.C.H. framework:Reciprocal Influential Connected HumbleShe shares how this system is designed to help entrepreneurs and service-based professionals build referral-based businesses rooted in trust, warmth, and mutual growth.➤ Jesus, Dinner Parties, and the Divine Power of a KnifeIn one of the most personal moments, Sara credits her faith—and specifically, her renewed relationship with Jesus—as the compass guiding her work. They connect the dots between Jesus’ Last Supper, dinner tables as sacred community spaces, and how something as simple as a personalized kitchen knife can become a legacy of love.➤ Beyond the Business Tactic: Legacy as the Ultimate ROIThe episode closes with a powerful reminder: while gifting is a strategy, true generosity is a posture of the heart. Sara shares that she’s not just playing for business success—she’s playing for eternity. Key TakeawaysGenerosity isn’t a transaction—it’s a transformation. Strategic gifting isn’t about getting something back immediately. It’s about creating meaningful moments that compound over time.Your swag isn’t a gift—it’s a billboard. The most powerful gifts are useful, personal, and logo-free.Business is human-to-human. In a world overrun with AI, algorithms, and advertising, it’s the relationships built at your dinner table—not your Instagram grid—that truly move the needle.Legacy is built in the little things. A handwritten note. A kitchen knife. A prayer. A hug. These are the moments people remember. Links & ResourcesBeyond Gift•ology by John Ruhlin – Buy the bookLearn more about the Rich Relationship Society – giftologygroup.comContact Sara Hardwick – sara@giftologygroup.comConnect with Sara on LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/sarahardwickGiftology (Original Book) – Buy here

What if your inner critic isn’t the enemy—but a misdirected inner coach waiting for the right conversation?On today’s soul-shifting episode, Chris Schembra sits down with licensed clinician and Wall Street Journal bestselling author Britt Frank to explore the untapped potential of your internal world. Britt’s new book, Align Your Mind, blends Internal Family Systems (IFS), neuroscience, trauma therapy, and radical compassion into a user manual for becoming a better leader—by leading yourself first.In this raw, riveting, and often funny dialogue, Britt shares the ALIGN framework: a five-step method to transform the swirl of internal chaos into clarity, confidence, and calm leadership. You’ll walk away with tools to stop spinning, drop shame, and start collaborating—with all the voices in your head.Chris and Britt explore:How circus training helped Britt tame her mind and discover flow Why shadow parts aren’t saboteurs—they’re secret allies The real difference between solitude and loneliness How to negotiate with your inner critic like it’s your toughest client Why authentic leadership doesn’t mean “bring all your parts to work” A powerful reframe: Your brain isn’t broken—it’s brilliant Whether you’re a CEO, a team leader, or just trying to keep your head above water, this episode offers both practical tools and deep encouragement for navigating inner and outer leadership challenges. Key Moments[00:08] Chris’ poetic New York City intro + welcoming new and loyal listeners [02:27] Britt’s dynamic background: therapist, speaker, author… and circus performer [05:47] The Gratitude Question: Britt thanks her first circus coach for raising her standards [07:36] Defining flow as alignment—not perfection [10:38] Intro to Parts Work and why leaders must embrace their inner multiplicity [12:38] What “shadow work” really means: turning inner tension into innovation [15:15] The ALIGN Framework:Acknowledge Listen Investigate Give Gratitude (to your brain!) Negotiate [22:42] From loneliness to solitude: why inner gratitude is the first step to connection [25:32] Why some stress is good stress: shifting mental gears instead of stalling [28:57] Britt’s take on DBT (Dialectical Behavior Therapy) and how it saved her life [31:35] Busting three myths of the workplace:Don’t bring every part of yourself to work Workplaces aren’t families—they’re teams Positivity isn’t the same as leadership [36:53] Britt’s backstory: addiction, cults, hiding IFS books inside cult literature, and the breakthrough that changed her life [39:28] Final takeaway: your inner critic isn’t a bully—it’s your most loyal bodyguard [40:16] Chris’ signoff + why Align Your Mind is essential reading for anyone leading a team in 2025 Memorable Quotes“Flow is not the absence of thought. It’s movement in the presence of noise.” – Britt Frank“Every part of you has value. You don’t need to silence them—you need to negotiate.” – Britt Frank“The solution to loneliness is solitude—but only if your inner world isn’t at war with itself.” – Chris Schembra“Your brain isn’t wired for success. It’s wired for survival. Say thanks, and lead anyway.” – Britt Frank“Leadership is not about being positive all the time. It’s about being real—with curiosity and compassion.” – Britt Frank About the BookAlign Your Mind is Britt Frank’s empowering new guide to taming anxiety, healing trauma, and overcoming self-doubt using Parts Work. Combining practical exercises, storytelling, and cutting-edge neuroscience, Britt introduces readers to their internal cast of characters—from the anxious controller to the tired inner child—and shows how to bring them into harmony.With Britt’s warm and witty voice, readers learn how to:Reframe the inner critic as a coach Move from chaos to clarity with the ALIGN method Use curiosity as an antidote to burnout and self-sabotage Stop waiting to feel motivated and start getting things done Whether you’re a leader or simply a human navigating complexity, this book gives you the tools to realign and rise.Order now: Penguin Random House About Britt FrankBritt Frank, LSCSW, is a licensed clinician, author, and speaker specializing in trauma, Parts Work, and mental health. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, NPR, Forbes, Esquire, and New York Magazine. She is the author of The Science of Stuck, The Getting Unstuck Workbook, and now Align Your Mind.Based in Kansas Citybrittfrank.comInstagram: @BrittFrank About Your HostChris Schembra is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Gratitude Through Hard Times and founder of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™, which has impacted hundreds of thousands through the power of meaningful connection. He’s been featured in Rolling Stone, USA Today, Forbes, and beyond—and hosts this podcast as a space for leaders to explore the intersection of hardship, hope, and human potential.

Welcome back to another episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times! Today, your host Chris Schembra is joined by the insightful and inspiring Dr. Steve Elias, Dean of the Katz School of Business at Fort Lewis College in Durango, Colorado. Amidst the polar vortex sweeping through New York City, we dive into a heartwarming discussion about mentorship, leadership, and the power of gratitude in shaping our personal and professional journeys. Tune in as we explore how small acts of kindness, mutual respect, and a commitment to connection can create a lasting impact in our lives and communities.In This Episode, You’ll Learn:How a simple shoulder tap can change the course of a careerThe importance of mentorship and building reciprocal relationshipsLessons from Governor Gary Carruthers on leadership and respect across differencesWhy celebrating the success of others (Mudita) is key to fulfillmentThe Platinum Rule: Treating others the way they want to be treatedHow small, cumulative actions can create meaningful changePractical ways to express gratitude, even to those who are no longer with usGuest Bio: Dr. Steve Elias is an experienced and approachable leader who knows how to bring people together and create positive change. As the Dean of the Katz School of Business at Fort Lewis College, he has worked hard to improve teamwork, build partnerships, and develop strategies that make a real difference for students, staff, faculty members, and the community. Steve is known for being down-to-earth and easy to talk to, with a leadership style based on open communication, fairness, and collaboration. With a background in applied social psychology and years of experience at Minority Serving Institutions, he understands people’s needs and makes them feel included and supported. Steve has a gift for inspiring others, building strong relationships, and finding creative ways to help organizations grow and succeed.Episode Highlights:[00:03:15] Chris introduces Dr. Steve Elias and the story of how they met in Durango, Colorado.[00:07:45] Steve shares his gratitude for Governor Gary Carruthers and the pivotal moment he was "tapped on the shoulder."[00:14:30] The Platinum Rule in leadership: why treating people how they want to be treated matters.[00:21:10] Finding joy in the success of others - the power of Mudita.[00:28:50] Overcoming the challenge of appreciating personal accomplishments without feeling egotistical.[00:35:20] Chris and Steve reflect on the impact of small, everyday acts of gratitude.[00:42:10] Exploring the legacy of Bob Graetz and his contributions to the civil rights movement.[00:49:00] Practical advice for leaders on building a culture of recognition and gratitude in the workplace.Resources Mentioned:ResearchGate profile of Dr. Steve EliasDeviant and Criminal Behavior in the Workplace by Dr. Steve EliasMaria’s Bookshop in Durango, ColoradoThe Platinum Rule conceptHarvard Study on Adult Development by Dr. Robert WaldingerA&E Biography of Bob GraetzKey Takeaways:Celebrate the success of others and recognize the role you’ve played in their journey.Small gestures, like lighting a candle or sending a kind message, have a profound impact.Gratitude should be practiced daily and can help overcome regret and guilt.Leaders should focus on relationship-building and understanding their team’s unique needs.Call to Action: If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to Gratitude Through Hard Times and share it with someone who could use a little inspiration today. Have thoughts or questions about this episode? We'd love to hear from you! 

Welcome to a soul-stirring episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times with your host, Chris Schembra. Set against the festive backdrop of New York City during the holiday season, this conversation is an inspiring reminder of the power of gratitude, connection, and intentional living. Joining Chris is Felipe Gómez, a world-renowned thought leader, virtuoso pianist, and keynote speaker who has captivated audiences across 33 countries with his unique blend of music and leadership insights.Felipe’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. From his early days learning piano under a patient and dedicated teacher to delivering over 1,000 electrifying performances on global stages, Felipe’s life is a testament to the power of passion and purpose. As a speaker, he combines ancient philosophies, modern leadership principles, and his prodigious musical talent to create experiences that resonate deeply with audiences. In this episode, Felipe and Chris unpack timeless lessons on gratitude, love, learning, and leadership, offering listeners a playbook for transformational living.Chris kicks off the episode with his signature warmth, reminding us all of the magic of small moments and the power of shared experiences. Felipe’s reflections on his first piano teacher, Clara Lucia Sanchez, lay the foundation for a conversation that seamlessly weaves personal stories with actionable insights. Together, Chris and Felipe explore themes like the tension and release of life, the science of gratitude, and the profound impact of small, intentional choices.Felipe’s philosophy is rooted in Aristotle’s golden mean—the balance between excess and deficiency—and he brings this ancient wisdom to life with practical examples and heartfelt anecdotes. He also highlights the transformative power of listening, encouraging leaders to embrace questions like “Tell me more” and “How can I help?” to build trust, empathy, and connection. Throughout the episode, Felipe and Chris demonstrate how gratitude, music, and human connection can serve as antidotes to a world often consumed by division and distraction.As they close out the conversation, Chris and Felipe share their vision for a live event series that combines their passions—food, music, and leadership—to inspire and unite communities. This episode is a masterclass in finding beauty in the everyday, cultivating resilience, and making the choice to live with gratitude and purpose. What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Felipe reflects on the life-changing impact of his first piano teacher and how her dedication inspired his lifelong love of music.Chris and Felipe explore the golden mean, Aristotle’s philosophy of balance, and how it applies to modern leadership and life.The importance of listening as a leadership skill is unpacked, with Felipe urging listeners to ask powerful questions like “Tell me more.”Chris shares the science of gratitude, detailing how it improves physical health, mental resilience, and overall happiness.Felipe draws a parallel between life and music, emphasizing the rhythm of tension and release as essential for growth and harmony.Together, they discuss how small, daily choices to learn, love, and explore can lead to a more meaningful and joyful life. Notable Quotes:"Gratitude is the bridge between where we are and where we want to be." – Chris Schembra"We are designed to learn, to explore, and to love—every day is a chance to do all three." – Felipe Gómez"The most profound moments of joy come when we serve others, not ourselves." – Felipe Gómez"Ingratitude is the seed of all wickedness—it’s time we turn it into gratitude and growth." – Chris Schembra"Listening is an act of love, and it opens the door to empathy, understanding, and trust." – Felipe Gómez"Tension is part of life, but release is where growth happens. Don’t dwell in the tension." – Chris Schembra"Love, in its truest form, is the ultimate virtue—it has no limits, only power to transform." – Felipe Gómez"If you want to live a life of gratitude, don’t wait for the big moments. Start with the small ones." – Chris Schembra"In every conversation, the most important thing isn’t what’s said—it’s what remains unsaid." – Felipe Gómez"Virtue is found in the balance—between excess and deficiency lies the path to greatness." – Felipe Gómez"The greatest civilizations crumbled when gratitude disappeared. Let’s not repeat history." – Chris Schembra"To become virtuous, you have to act virtuously. Justice requires acts of justice, love requires acts of love." – Felipe Gómez"Gratitude is more than a feeling—it’s a tool for healing, hope, and humanity." – Chris Schembra"Ask two questions every day: 'Tell me more' and 'How can I help?' These will change your life." – Felipe Gómez"You don’t need permission or privilege to make the choice to learn, explore, and love. It’s yours to claim every day." – Chris Schembra Actionable Takeaways:Gratitude fuels growth: It fosters healing, connection, and personal transformation.The power of small choices: Everyday acts of learning, exploring, and loving lead to a meaningful life.Listen to lead: Effective listening builds trust, empathy, and innovation in leadership and life.Tension and release: Life’s challenges are part of a rhythm—embrace the tension and find moments of release to thrive. ABOUT OUR GUEST:Felipe Gómez is a globally renowned speaker, virtuoso pianist, and thought leader whose work bridges the worlds of music, leadership, and personal transformation. With over 1,000 captivating performances delivered in 33 countries and 111 cities, Felipe has earned standing ovations from audiences around the world. His unique ability to blend classical music with practical leadership insights makes him one of the most sought-after keynote speakers today.Felipe’s success is built on his extensive experience as an entrepreneur, business leader, and artist. He has delivered his message at some of the world’s most prestigious management and leadership forums, including the Global Peter Drucker Forum, the Oslo Business Forum, and the World Business Forum in New York, Madrid, Milan, and Sydney.In his keynote presentations, Felipe uses a grand piano on stage to create a deeply interactive and transformative experience. Through music, he teaches profound lessons on leadership, trust, innovation, and teamwork, inspiring individuals and organizations to achieve greatness. His philosophy is rooted in the teachings of Aristotle and the concept of the “golden mean,” which he applies to modern challenges in life and business.Felipe is also a celebrated author. His best-selling book, Attitude-E, offers practical frameworks for living with an entrepreneurial mindset, while his upcoming release, Virtuoso, explores the art of living and leading with excellence. Felipe hosts Pensando en Voz Alta, a weekly interview program where he engages with global leaders on topics of creativity, resilience, and transformation.Born in Colombia, Felipe holds an MBA from the International Institute for Management Development (IMD) in Switzerland, where he also completed a program on Leading Digital Business Transformation. He combines his global perspective with the sensibility of an artist, delivering a message that resonates across cultures and industries.Whether he’s inspiring corporate executives, performing on stage, or engaging with audiences through his 42-Day Listening Challenge, Felipe’s mission is clear: to help people orchestrate transformational change in their personal and professional lives. Connect with Felipe Gómez:Website: Learn more about Felipe's work and upcoming events.Felipe GomezLinkedIn: Connect with Felipe on LinkedIn. ABOUT OUR HOST:Chris Schembra is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Gratitude Through Hard Times and Gratitude and Pasta. USA Today calls him their "Gratitude Guru", he's a Founding Member of Rolling Stone Magazine's Culture Council, and he sits on the Executive Board at Fast Company Magazine.He is the Founder and Chief Question Asker of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™ — an evidence-based framework used to strengthen client and team relationships in profound ways. He's used the principles of gratitude to spark thousands of relationships within the workplace. FOLLOW CHRIS:**WEBSITE |INSTAGRAM |LINKEDIN |BOOKS** RESOURCES MENTIONED:Felipe’s 42-Day Listening Program: Subscribe for a daily dose of classical music and reflection.Chris Schembra’s Book: Gratitude Through Hard Times: Finding Positive Benefits Through Our Darkest Hour.Adam Grant’s Book: Give and Take: Why Helping Others Drives Our Success.Barbara Fredrickson’s Research: Learn about the broaden-and-build theory of positive emotions.

In this captivating episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra welcomes innovation expert, entrepreneur, and jazz musician Josh Linkner to explore the profound connection between creativity, gratitude, and success. Josh, a New York Times bestselling author and founder of five tech companies, shares how his diverse experiences—from navigating high-stakes business ventures to performing over 1,000 jazz concerts—have shaped his unique philosophy on unlocking human potential.Josh dives deep into the principles behind his latest book, Big Little Breakthroughs: How Small Everyday Innovations Drive Oversized Results. He explains how small, consistent acts of creativity—not risky moonshots—are the key to driving transformational outcomes in business and life. Together, Josh and Chris unpack the importance of mindset, the power of gratitude in unleashing creative potential, and why celebrating others' success (a concept known as Mudita) can bring unparalleled fulfillment.This episode is packed with actionable insights, including Josh’s “Two-Minute Creativity Ritual” for daily innovation and his revolutionary approach to brainstorming—“Role Storming”—that encourages you to think outside the box by stepping into a new persona. Josh also shares vulnerable stories of overcoming self-doubt, from learning to sing in his 50s to embracing mistakes as vital stepping stones to greatness.Whether you’re an entrepreneur seeking fresh ideas, a leader looking to inspire your team, or simply someone striving for a more creative and fulfilling life, this conversation offers a roadmap to transform fear into curiosity, inaction into experimentation, and stagnation into growth. Prepare to be inspired to awaken your inner artist and embrace the small, deliberate acts of creativity that can lead to life-changing results.Grab a notebook, settle in, and get ready to tap into the power of gratitude, belief, and everyday innovation to create a life filled with purpose and possibility. What You’ll Learn in This Episode:The Power of Gratitude: How gratitude opens the door to creativity, minimizes fear, and enhances problem-solving.Big Little Breakthroughs: Why small, incremental innovations often outperform giant moonshots in driving success.The Two-Minute Creativity Ritual: A simple daily practice to cultivate creative thinking in just two minutes.Role Storming vs. Brainstorming: A fun and effective technique for generating bold ideas by stepping into a character or role.Overcoming Limiting Beliefs: How Josh shattered his own self-imposed limits by learning to sing at 50—and how you can tackle your own doubts.Mudita: The joy of celebrating others’ success and its transformative impact on personal and professional growth. Notable Quotes:"Gratitude is the antidote to fear and suffering. It helps us plug into our creative potential and see the world through a lens of abundance." — Josh Linkner"Instead of ‘I’ll believe it when I see it,’ shift to ‘I’ll see it when I believe it.’ Belief is the starting point for innovation." — Josh Linkner"We’re all artists. Whether you’re a chef, a trial lawyer, or a parent, creativity is about challenging norms and creating something new." — Josh Linkner"The riskiest move is often inaction. Small creative experiments allow us to de-risk and learn as we go." — Josh Linkner"Gratitude doesn’t just shift perspective; it opens the door to innovation and creates space for others to succeed alongside us." — Chris Schembra Actionable Takeaways:Try the Two-Minute Creativity Workout: Spend one minute immersing yourself in another’s creativity (e.g., music, art, poetry) and one minute brainstorming solutions to an unrelated problem.Challenge a Limiting Belief: Identify something you’ve told yourself you “can’t do,” and take one small step to prove yourself wrong.Practice Role Storming: At your next team meeting, role-play as someone like Lady Gaga, Yoda, or an alien to generate bold ideas without fear of judgment.Reflect on Gratitude: Answer the question, “Who’s one person you’ve never thanked, but whose impact on your life deserves recognition?” Take action to express that gratitude. ABOUT OUR GUEST:Josh Linkner— a New York Times bestselling author — is a rare blend of business, art, and science. On the business front, he’s been the founder and CEO of five tech companies, which created over 10,000 jobs and sold for a combined value of over $200 million. He’s the co-founder and Managing Partner of Muditā (moo-DEE-tah) Venture Partners - an early-stage venture capital firm investing in groundbreaking technologies. Over the last 30 years, he’s helped over 100 startups launch and scale, creating over $1 billion in investor returns. He’s twice been named the EY Entrepreneur of The Year and is the recipient of the United States Presidential Champion of Change Award. While proud of his business success, his roots are in the dangerous world of jazz music. He’s been playing guitar in smoky jazz clubs for 40 years, studied at the prestigious Berklee College of Music, and has performed over 1000 concerts around the world. His experiences in both business and music led him to become one of the world’s foremost experts on innovation. Josh is the co-founder and Chairman of Platypus Labs, a global research, training, and consulting firm. Today, he’s on a mission to help leaders Find A WayTM through creative problem-solving, inventive thinking, and ingenuity. FOLLOW JOSH:Website:joshlinkner.comLinkedIn:Josh LinknerInstagram:@joshlinknerTwitter:@JoshLinkner ABOUT OUR HOST:Chris Schembra is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Gratitude Through Hard Times and Gratitude and Pasta. USA Today calls him their "Gratitude Guru", he's a Founding Member of Rolling Stone Magazine's Culture Council, and he sits on the Executive Board at Fast Company Magazine.He is the Founder and Chief Question Asker of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™ — an evidence-based framework used to strengthen client and team relationships in profound ways. He's used the principles of gratitude to spark thousands of relationships within the workplace. FOLLOW CHRIS:**WEBSITE |INSTAGRAM |LINKEDIN |BOOKS** RESOURCES MENTIONED:Josh Linkner’s Latest Book: Big Little Breakthroughs: How Small Everyday Innovations Drive Oversized ResultsMudita Venture Partners: WebsitePlatypus Labs: WebsiteFelipe Gomez’s Art of Listening: Subscribe

In this inspiring episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra sits down with David Landman, a former senior HR executive at Goldman Sachs, to explore his transformative journey from corporate success to living a life centered on joy, gratitude, and purpose.David, who is passionate about making work more sustainable, fulfilling, and inclusive for everyone, shares how his career transition was sparked by a desire to escape stagnation and create a more meaningful life. After 20 years at Goldman Sachs, David now dedicates his time to supporting visionary founders, investors, and innovators who are redefining what it means to thrive in the workplace.Through his work, David:Advises some of the world’s most innovative HR tech startups and venture capitalists.Builds communities of CHROs and HR executives passionate about giving back.Shares his knowledge with the next generation of HR leaders.In the episode, David introduces “The Long Exhale,” a framework for rediscovering joy and purpose. He shares actionable steps for leaders to break free from burnout, foster gratitude, and create lasting impact—both in their personal and professional lives.This conversation is filled with practical insights, including how to:Take small actions to get unstuck.Shift from an inward to an outward mindset.Adopt an abundance mindset and embrace joy over achievement.David’s guiding principle is clear: When we lift others up, we can all succeed. This episode is a call to action for leaders and changemakers to co-create a better future of work together, fueled by empathy, gratitude, and human connection. Key Discussion Points:David’s Journey from Corporate Executive to Joyful LivingSigns of Feeling StuckThe Long Exhale FrameworkThe Role of Gratitude in Leadership and LifeRedefining SuccessNature as a Tool for Perspective and RenewalChallenges of Transitioning to a New Way of BeingPractical Actions for Leaders and IndividualsDavid’s Vision for the Future of WorkThe Call to Rediscover JoyNotable Quotes:David Landman:“I’m working for joy now, and it’s so freaking amazing.”Chris Schembra:“Misery is optional. Let’s rediscover joy and wake up to the beauties of life.”David Landman:“The Long Exhale is about relaxing into the moment, finding gratitude, and following the things that bring you purpose and joy.”David Landman:“When we lift others up, we can all succeed. Let’s co-create a better future of work together.”Chris Schembra:“Just because you find your purpose doesn’t mean the journey will be all sunshine, rainbows, and unicorns. But it will be worth it.”David Landman:“I was stuck, not because I didn’t know what to do next, but because I was afraid to take that first step. Small actions are the key to big transformations.”David Landman:“I spent 20 years climbing the corporate ladder, and now I’ve discovered the joy of walking the forest trail.”Chris Schembra:“Adopting an outward mindset opens the door to connection, gratitude, and rediscovering joy.”David Landman:“Life doesn’t have to be about rigid plans or fixed destinations. It’s about following the breadcrumbs of what brings you joy and meaning.”Chris Schembra:“Gratitude isn’t just a feeling—it’s a practice that can transform your relationships, your leadership, and your life. ABOUT OUR GUEST:David Landman is a seasoned Human Resources executive with a distinguished career, primarily spent at Goldman Sachs where he served for over 20 years. As the Global Head of Talent Development and a member of the Human Capital Management Executive Committee, he played a pivotal role in shaping the firm's talent strategy and implementing strategic initiatives that drove business performance and enhanced diversity. Renowned for his expertise in talent practices, Landman's work has been featured in notable publications such as Forbes. Following his tenure at Goldman Sachs, he has dedicated his time to supporting visionary companies and innovators, serving as an advisor to HR technology companies and leading the CHRO community at PeopleTech Enterprise. An active speaker at institutions like Columbia University and a participant in various conferences and podcasts, Landman emphasizes the importance of feedback in personal and professional growth. He recently joined Loupe's Advisory Board, where he promotes employee development and feedback as key business priorities, advocating for a humane, connected, and fulfilling work environment. Connect with David Landman:LinkedIn:David LandmanABOUT OUR HOST:Chris Schembra is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Gratitude Through Hard Times and Gratitude and Pasta. USA Today calls him their "Gratitude Guru", he's a Founding Member of Rolling Stone Magazine's Culture Council, and he sits on the Executive Board at Fast Company Magazine.He is the Founder and Chief Question Asker of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™ — an evidence-based framework used to strengthen client and team relationships in profound ways. He's used the principles of gratitude to spark thousands of relationships within the workplace.FOLLOW CHRIS:**WEBSITE |INSTAGRAM |LINKEDIN |BOOKS** Resources Mentioned:Book: 4,000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver BurkemanPractice: Japanese Forest Bathing (Shinrin Yoku)

In this insightful episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra welcomes Mitch Warner, Managing Partner at The Arbinger Institute and co-author of Leadership and Self-Deception. Mitch guides us through the core principles of Arbinger’s groundbreaking work, exploring the central idea of self-deception—a psychological barrier that prevents individuals from seeing others clearly and, ultimately, impedes personal and organizational growth.Mitch introduces the concept of self-deception as the tendency to see ourselves inaccurately, often with a biased or distorted lens, which leads us to misjudge others as obstacles or tools rather than as people with legitimate needs and perspectives. This inward mindset results from what Arbinger terms self-betrayal, a failure to act on our internal sense of how we should treat others. Mitch emphasizes that self-deception is not just a personal issue but a core problem in organizations, affecting everything from team collaboration to leadership effectiveness. He explains how leaders unwittingly create and sustain the very conflicts they seek to resolve by failing to see their own role in the challenges they face.The discussion shifts to Arbinger’s proposed solution: shifting from an inward mindset to an outward mindset. Mitch explains that an inward mindset centers on self-justification, blame, and defensiveness, where others are seen merely as obstacles or means to achieve personal goals. By contrast, an outward mindset recognizes others as individuals with needs, goals, and aspirations as real as our own. Mitch discusses how adopting an outward mindset can transform workplaces, leading to stronger relationships, better communication, higher accountability, and improved results.One of the most powerful concepts discussed is the idea of collusion—a cycle of conflict where two or more people reinforce each other’s negative behaviors. Mitch describes how this dynamic is fueled by self-deception, as individuals are more focused on defending their own views than understanding others’ perspectives. Collusion often manifests as blame, resentment, and resistance, creating silos and perpetuating dysfunction in teams. Mitch explains that breaking the cycle of collusion requires leaders to first recognize their own part in the conflict, shifting their focus from changing others to changing themselves.Mitch also offers insights into the updated 4th edition of Leadership and Self-Deception, which features modernized examples, diverse characters, and new scenarios that address contemporary workplace challenges. The new edition incorporates practical tools and study guides to help readers apply Arbinger’s principles in both personal and professional contexts. Mitch outlines some of these tools, such as identifying moments of self-betrayal, practicing active curiosity about others, and implementing feedback loops that promote transparency and accountability.The episode concludes with a discussion of why these concepts are particularly relevant today. Mitch emphasizes that in a world marked by uncertainty, division, and rapid change, the ability to see others clearly and adopt an outward mindset is more urgent than ever. He explains how leaders who embrace these principles can create workplaces that are more inclusive, resilient, and adaptable. By fostering cultures where people are genuinely seen and valued, organizations can enhance performance, improve retention, and unlock greater potential at every level.Why You Should Listen:If you’re a leader, manager, or someone interested in personal development, this episode offers a practical framework for understanding how mindset shapes behavior, relationships, and organizational outcomes. Mitch Warner presents Arbinger’s concepts with clarity, making complex psychological principles accessible and actionable. Whether you're facing communication breakdowns, conflict, or disengagement within your team, the concepts of self-deception, collusion, and outward mindset will provide you with new ways to diagnose and address root problems. By applying these principles, you can transform not only your leadership but also your everyday interactions, creating deeper connections and achieving sustainable results. Key Discussion Points:Self-Deception as a Barrier to Leadership.The Inward vs. Outward Mindset.Collusion: A Cycle of Blame and Justification.Self-Betrayal as the Root of Dysfunction.Practical Tools for Mindset Shift. Notable Quotes:“Self-deception isn't about the other person—it's about us and the stories we create to justify our behavior.” — Mitch Warner“To change others, leaders must first change themselves. It starts by seeing our own contributions to the problems we face.” — Mitch Warner“When leaders have the courage to recognize how they contribute to problems, they open the door to transformational change—not just for themselves, but for their entire organizations.” — Mitch Warner“Imagine a workplace where no one has an image to protect—where people are fully open to feedback and focused solely on the mission.” — Mitch Warner“We often create the very conflicts we seek to resolve by failing to see others clearly and acting from a place of self-deception.” — Mitch Warner“Gratitude is one of the tools that can shift us from an inward to an outward mindset, helping us to acknowledge the humanity and value of others.” — Chris Schembra Action Items:Subscribe: If this conversation resonated with you, don’t forget to subscribe for more heart-centered discussions on leadership, empathy, and gratitude.Share: Send this episode to someone who could use inspiration and a reminder to practice gratitude.Reflect: Who in your life deserves a thank you? Take a moment today to reach out and express your gratitude. ABOUT OUR GUEST:Mitch Warner is a bestselling author and Arbinger managing partner with a background in healthcare and organizational turnaround. Mitch is the co-author of Arbinger’s latest bestseller, The Outward Mindset. He writes frequently on the practical effects of mindset at the individual and organizational levels as well as the role of leadership in transforming organizational culture and results. He is an expert on mindset and culture change, leadership, strategy, performance management, organizational turnaround, and conflict resolution. Mitch is a sought-after speaker to organizations across a range of industries, bringing his practical experience to bear for leaders of corporations, governments, and organizations across the globe. Specific clients include NASA, Citrix, Aflac, the U.S. Army and Air Force, the Treasury Executive Institute, and Intermountain Healthcare. Mitch carries his first-hand perspective as a proven leader into his speeches and facilitation, dynamically bringing Arbinger’s concepts and tools to life through his powerful stories and hands-on experience. His audiences leave inspired to improve and equipped with a practical roadmap to effect immediate change. In his role as managing partner, Mitch directs the development of Arbinger’s intellectual property, training and consulting programs, and highly customized largescale organizational change initiatives. He has been instrumental in Arbinger’s rapid growth, including its expanding international presence in nearly 30 countries. Mitch received his B.A. in philosophy and is a licensed nursing administrator. Trained in fine art at the Art Students League and the National Academy, he spends much of his free time painting. His work hangs in organizations nationwide. FOLLOW MITCH:Leadership and Self-Deception (4th Edition):Amazon LinkThe Arbinger Institute:WebsiteFollow Mitch Warner on LinkedIn:LinkedIn ProfileFollow the Arbinger Institute on Twitter:@ArbingerInst ABOUT OUR HOST:Chris Schembra is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Gratitude Through Hard Times and Gratitude and Pasta. USA Today calls him their "Gratitude Guru", he's a Founding Member of Rolling Stone Magazine's Culture Council, and he sits on the Executive Board at Fast Company Magazine.He is the Founder and Chief Question Asker of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™ — an evidence-based framework used to strengthen client and team relationships in profound ways. He's used the principles of gratitude to spark thousands of relationships within the workplace. FOLLOW CHRIS:**WEBSITE |INSTAGRAM |LINKEDIN |BOOKS**

In this deeply moving and insightful episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra engages in a heartfelt conversation with Sandeep Angra, Chief Information and Technology Officer (CIO/CTO) of the 40,000 person strong company, Unifi, the largest airport ground-handling company in North America and Europe. With over three decades of IT leadership experience spanning various industries, Sandeep’s professional achievements are significant, but today’s conversation takes us beyond his impressive resume.This episode focuses on the themes of gratitude, humility, and spirituality, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the personal beliefs and life lessons that have shaped Sandeep's journey. He reflects on his upbringing in a small village in India, where his parents made enormous sacrifices to provide him with the opportunity to pursue education—a theme that resonates deeply throughout the episode. Sandeep’s father, a schoolteacher who walked 15 kilometers to work to save money for his children's tuition, and his mother, a primary school teacher, instilled in him values of hard work, humility, and gratitude that continue to guide him today.Sandeep's personal philosophy centers on the belief that gratitude is the cornerstone of success, both in life and leadership. He speaks candidly about the importance of acknowledging the people who have supported us along the way—whether they are still with us or not—and how expressing gratitude strengthens both personal and professional relationships. Throughout the conversation, Sandeep delves into his spiritual beliefs, sharing his thoughts on karma, incarnation, and the interconnectedness of life, drawing on influences from both Eastern philosophy and scientific thought, such as Einstein’s reflections on the nature of reality.Listeners are invited to consider three essential questions: Who am I? Why am I here? How can I help others? These questions form the foundation of Sandeep’s life philosophy, one that calls us to live with purpose, to give selflessly, and to remain humble regardless of external achievements.The episode is not just a reflection on leadership in business, but also on the leadership of the heart—how empathy, kindness, and serving others can lead to both personal fulfillment and professional success. Sandeep shares stories from his career in global IT leadership, highlighting the ways in which gratitude and humility have not only helped him navigate challenges but have also allowed him to build high-performing teams, implement transformative technology projects, and align corporate objectives with human values.Chris and Sandeep also explore the power of giving without expectation—a recurring theme that underscores the entire conversation. In a world that often values material success and self-promotion, Sandeep reminds us that true fulfillment comes from giving generously, whether through acts of kindness, mentorship, or simply acknowledging the contributions of others.By the end of the episode, listeners will walk away with not just actionable leadership advice, but a renewed sense of purpose and a deeper understanding of how gratitude can enrich both their personal and professional lives. Sandeep’s wisdom reminds us that the journey of giving, whether to our families, our communities, or even to strangers, is a difficult but immensely rewarding one—one that ultimately defines our legacy.Whether you’re an executive, a leader, or simply someone seeking more meaning in life, this episode offers valuable insights into how we can all lead with humility, harness the power of gratitude, and create a more compassionate, connected world. Key Discussion Points:Sandeep’s Humble Beginnings: Growing up in a small village in India, with parents who sacrificed everything to ensure their children received a quality education.Gratitude for Life’s Guides: Sandeep reflects on the people who shaped his journey, including his parents, teachers, and his wife, who supported him through difficult decisions.Living with Gratitude and Humility: The importance of giving thanks and remaining humble, no matter where life takes you.Spiritual Reflections: How spirituality and karma play a significant role in Sandeep’s approach to life, including his belief in reincarnation and universal connection.Leadership through Service: Sandeep shares the idea that true leadership is about serving others selflessly, and how that has been the foundation of his career.Applying Gratitude to Everyday Life: Simple yet profound questions everyone should ask themselves: "Who am I?" and "How can I help?"Notable Quotes:Sandeep Angra: "If you want to attract good, you must be good. What you give to the world is what you will get in return. That is the law of karma."Chris Schembra: "To do something without expecting anything in return is the most difficult journey a human being will take."Sandeep Angra: "You cannot give to the world what you don’t have. If you have anger, that’s what you’ll give. If you have kindness, that’s what you’ll give."Action Items:Subscribe: If this conversation resonated with you, don’t forget to subscribe for more heart-centered discussions on leadership, empathy, and gratitude.Share: Send this episode to someone who could use inspiration and a reminder to practice gratitude.Reflect: Who in your life deserves a thank you? Take a moment today to reach out and express your gratitude. ABOUT OUR GUEST:Sandeep Angra is the Chief Information and Technology Officer (CIO/CTO) for the largest airport ground handling company, which operates across more than 250 airports in Europe and North America. With over 30 years of experience in IT leadership, Sandeep has worked in industries including Big4 consulting, travel and logistics, pharmaceuticals, financial services, and consumer goods. He has led a range of digital transformation projects, such as ERP implementation, Cloud Adoption, AI/ML integration, and Automation, managing budgets up to $250 million. These projects have contributed to business growth, improved customer value, increased productivity, and cost reductions. Sandeep is experienced in building teams, developing IT strategies, and aligning technology initiatives with business objectives.ABOUT OUR HOST:Chris Schembra is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Gratitude Through Hard Times and Gratitude and Pasta. USA Today calls him their "Gratitude Guru", he's a Founding Member of Rolling Stone Magazine's Culture Council, and he sits on the Executive Board at Fast Company Magazine.He is the Founder and Chief Question Asker of the 7:47 Gratitude Experience™ — an evidence-based framework used to strengthen client and team relationships in profound ways. He's used the principles of gratitude to spark thousands of relationships within the workplace.FOLLOW CHRIS:**WEBSITE |INSTAGRAM |LINKEDIN |BOOKS**