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This podcast brings you stories from Game Wardens across the world. Listen to their favorite cases, worst cases, what led them to their career, and what makes their job unique. Hosted by retired game wardens Wayne Saunders and John Nores.
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From growing up with a game warden father to leading investigations, Staff Sergeant and canine handler Larry Hergenroeder has seen it all—and loved every minute of it. In this episode, Larry shares why he believes being a game warden is “the coolest job on earth,” how his canine partners have cracked cases in record time, and why networking through NAWEOA matters more than ever.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Growing up in western Pennsylvania and finding his calling
· “I had game warden blood in my blood.”
· From Montana guide school to the academy
· “My only regret is losing those years I could have been doing this full-time.”
· Why being a game warden is more than a job
· “I live, eat, sleep, breathe this profession… I just want to be a game warden.”
· The power of NAWEOA networking and lifelong friendships
· “I haven’t had a month go by without a call from another state or province.”
· K9 program success stories: Storm and Rio crack tough cases
· “In 33 seconds, Storm found the evidence that solved a fatal shooting.”
· Challenge coins and the stories behind them
· Inspiring the next generation of wardens through conferences and mentorship
· Hunting-related shooting incidents and the emotional side of the job
· “One is one too many.”
· Family, sacrifice, and the brotherhood of game wardens
· “A profession sought by many, held by few, and only made possible by those family members that know the true meaning of sacrifice.”
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett
Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches
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In this powerful episode of The Thin Green Line Podcast, we sit down with Andy Huynh, a conservation professional whose career has taken him from global conflict zones to the front lines of wildlife protection.
Andy shares his journey from growing up in Southern California, to military service, to nearly a decade working overseas combating illegal wildlife trade, environmental crime, and transnational criminal organizations. His firsthand experiences reveal how wildlife trafficking fuels terrorism, human trafficking, armed conflict, and genocide—particularly in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.
This conversation goes far beyond poaching. It exposes the global criminal networks behind ivory, rhino horn, illegal timber, and conflict minerals—and how modern technology, consumer demand, and corruption all play a role.
Now back in the United States, Andy is beginning a new chapter in wildlife law enforcement, bringing a rare international perspective to protecting natural resources at home.
How Andy’s upbringing and military service shaped his path into conservation
The reality of illegal wildlife trade as a global criminal enterprise
Poaching, poverty, coercion, and organized crime
The humanitarian and environmental crisis in eastern DRC and Virunga National Park
Wildlife trafficking’s connection to terrorism, human trafficking, and conflict minerals
Corruption and failures in international peacekeeping efforts
Why protecting wildlife and protecting people are inseparable
Andy’s transition into wildlife law enforcement in California
Environmental crime is not a niche issue—it is one of the largest drivers of global instability. This episode offers rare, firsthand insight into how deeply connected wildlife conservation is to human rights, national security, and the future of the planet.
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From patrolling on sea ice and responding to polar bear calls to managing wildlife in remote communities, Conservation Officer Jack Skillings takes us deep into the Canadian Arctic. Offering a rare glimpse into wildlife enforcement in the far north, Jack shares the rewards and realities of protecting the environment in some of the most isolated places on Earth.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Yukon’s Conservation Officer Services Branch and its role
· Nunavut: Canada’s newest territory
· Nunavut’s unique conservation structure
· “There’s at least one conservation officer in every community.”
· Patrolling without roads: snowmobiles, ATVs, boats, and planes
· Polar bear management and why it’s handled by territories, not federal agencies
· Community policing: “education over enforcement.”
· Modern polar bear research using DNA instead of tags
· Differences between Nunavut and Yukon: isolation vs. road access and teamwork
· “The biggest difference in Yukon? Roads. Having a truck changes everything.”
· Wildlife species and hunting traditions: caribou, muskox, seals, moose, sheep, and Arctic char
· A polar bear deterrence gone wrong
· Life in remote communities
· “My favorite thing was just getting out on the land - patrolling, hunting, fishing.”
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
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What happens when a game warden takes on one of the toughest survival challenges on TV? West Virginia's Isaiah Tuck joins Wayne to share his incredible journey from enforcing wildlife laws to braving complete isolation on the hit series Alone. Discover the mental grit, survival skills, and life lessons that come from living off the land - and why solitude can be the ultimate teacher.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Isaiah’s path to becoming a West Virginia game warden
· “Every day as a game warden is about adapting to the unexpected.”
· How wildlife law enforcement prepared him for survival challenges
· Behind the scenes of Alone
· Preparation, mindset, and reality
· “The woods teach you patience - and patience is survival.”
· The hardest part of isolation: mental battles and self-reflection
· “Being alone strips you down to who you really are.”
· Hunger, weather, and wildlife encounters
· The gear he trusted most—and one item he wishes he'd brought
· Lessons learned from solitude and self-reliance
· Advice for anyone dreaming of testing their survival skills
· “Survival isn’t about strength—it’s about adaptability.”
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In this episode of Warden’s Watch, Wayne sits down with Ben Martin, founder of the Hunt Regs app, and Hayden Cook, a Tennessee Wildlife Officer, for a deep dive into warden-hunter interactions, safety in the field, and the story behind one of Tennessee’s most infamous poaching cases - the Maserati Buck. From practical advice for hunters to insights on wildlife law enforcement, this conversation is packed with real-world lessons and strategies to stay compliant in the field.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Ben’s journey as a first-generation hunter and why he created Hunt Regs
· “How do I make a game warden comfortable?” - the question every hunter should ask
· Hayden Cook on professionalism: “We serve the hunters and fishermen of Tennessee.”
· Hunter safety tips during license checks and why nervousness can lead to mistakes
· Hunt Regs app: anonymous poaching reports and real-time regulations
· The Maserati Buck case: a 229-inch deer poached under a streetlight near a luxury car dealership
· “Antlers make people do crazy things.” - Hayden on poaching motives
· Honest mistakes vs. intentional violations: why self-reporting matters
· Digital licensing pitfalls and why preparation is key
· Building trust and positive relationships between hunters and wardens
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In this powerful episode of Warden’s Watch, Pennsylvania Game Wardens Phil Bietsch & TJ Knash share the story of a career-defining poaching case tied to the tragic death of fellow officer David Grove on Veteran’s Day 2010. From building trust to securing confessions, this case is a masterclass in investigative work and emotional resilience. Listen now to hear how justice was served, and a legacy honored.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Phil and TJ were classmates at the Ross Leffler School of Conservation
· Working as neighboring officers for four years, they’ve developed a strong investigative partnership
· Emphasis on teamwork, rhythm in interviews, and rapport-building
· Ryan Laumann is a known habitual game law offender
· The case ties back to the tragic death of Game Warden Dave Grove in 2010, who was murdered by Chris Johnson during a poaching incident
· Laumann was a passenger in the vehicle
· Laumann “just went home.”
· Johnson is now on death row
· Equipment and training were improved
· Laumann received a five-year license revocation
· A tip from a former violator turned informant via Operation Game Thief
· “I got away with it once, I can do it again.”
· TJ took the lead
· Keeping emotions in check
· “Take your time.”
· Officers conducted surveillance near Laumann’s residence
· Multiple deer carcasses, gut piles, and antlers
· Officers used rapport and strategic interviewing to gain Laumann’s trust
· Jeff Baile’s interview and interrogation techniques were critical
· Allowing the suspect to tell their version of the story
· Laumann eventually confesses to killing multiple deer
· From a good case to a great case
· “Rapport is the foundation of everything.”
· Laumann was charged with:
3 counts of illegal deer
3 tagging violations
3 counts of scattering high-risk parts
1 over-the-bag-limit charge
· Final penalties: 5-year hunting license revocation and $2,800 in fines
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Ricardo Grisolini, a New York State Environmental Conservation Officer with roots in northern Italy, brings a sharp eye and a sharp wit to wildlife law enforcement. From chasing down poachers to setting up decoy deer that even landowners can’t resist, his stories are packed with twists, laughs, and lessons. In this episode, Ricardo shares some of his most unforgettable and entertaining cases from two decades on the job.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Growing up in Northern Italy’s “laces”
· Raised and hunted birds from an early age
· Slow cooked pulled turkey
· “This job is not a job; it's a career.”
· Working in Madison County is “a game warden’s dream.”
· The charter captain’s Christmas fish and the Salvation Army police
· Donating confiscated fish and meat
· A VERY convincing decoy setup nets multiple charges
· A substantial illegal baiting operation on private property
· Poacher insists he used a crossbow
· Trail cams tell a different story
· “The point was out of respect for the animal.”
· Social media can be a warden’s best friend
· New York ECOs don’t wear a traditional badge
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After the chilling revelations of Episode 156’s “Killing Krew Klan,” the question remained: how would the justice system respond?
What consequences did these young trophy hunters face, and did the punishment fit the crime? In this episode, Investigator Patrick Kiely returns to walk us through the penalty phase of the case. Join us as we uncover the final chapter in one of Connecticut’s most disturbing wildlife crimes.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Convictions for wildlife crime aren’t always a slam dunk
· The prosecutor in the case was an outdoorsman
· Original roadside stop netted only a suspended sentence
· Paring down up to 30 charges: what will stick?
· Group pled guilty to jacklighting
· $500 fines and three years’ probation
· Banned from hunting for ten years
· Conspiracy to sell wildlife and a probation violation
· Getting support from judges and prosecutors
· “Any time you serve a warrant … you’re opening a Pandora’s Box.”
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Producer: Jay Ammann
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On this podcast, we sat down. Two dynamic individuals, Chase Hardage and Jason Ray from the Wise Eye technology company, talk about WiseEye's beginnings. What they're doing and how they're doing things differently and better.
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In late 2018, the Connecticut Environmental Conservation Police uncovered a chilling case involving a group of young trophy hunters. Over just a few months, they had illegally taken at least 19 deer - often during nighttime hunts near residential neighborhoods. What started as a routine investigation quickly unraveled into something far more disturbing: secret planning sessions, a manifesto detailing their exploits, and a twisted tribute to the grandfather who taught them to night hunt. Join Investigator Patrick Kiely as he recounts the unbelievable story of the “Killing Krew Klan.”
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Here’s what we discuss:
· An area known for night hunting
· Spotting night hunters requires patience and timing
· The state’s healthy deer population is tempting for poachers
· A patrol officer spots suspicious signs
· The initial arrest leads to more questions
· Cell phones: everyone documents everything
· “I wouldn’t even call them hunters; they were trophy poachers.”
· It definitely wasn’t squirrels
· The group is released but phones are seized
· A stunning discovery
· “It was an every-night occurrence.”
· The group frequently hunted near houses
· None of 19 deer were registered
· The puzzle pieces: pictures, locations and times
· The serial poaching had gone on for years, and had grown
· Group relied on thinly stretched law enforcement
· A specific 16-point buck and an unlikely story
· US Fish and Wildlife joins the investigation
· Cell phone metadata pinpoints locations and times
· “Not a care in the world.”
· A handwritten manifesto is found
· The ‘zombie’ deer
· Timing was perfect – and lucky
· Even illegal roadkill wasn’t off limits to the ‘Klan’
· $100 does for sale, and banquet hall venison
· Multiple deer were taken nightly
· Managing investigations and public perception
· Hunters had noticed a decline
· “It was a joke to them.”
· Many state charges were misdemeanors
· Local hunters weigh in
· Technology has changed investigation strategies
· Limitation statutes prevented even more charges
· Getting buy-in from other agencies
· Balancing criminal and wildlife investigations can be a challenge
· The cell phones were crucial
· Rising bear population has led to conflicts
· Educating the public
· Staffing numbers are on the rise
· “It was a learning experience for all of us.”
Credits
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Tucked into a scenic corner of the International Peace Garden, and straddling the border between North Dakota and Manitoba, Canada, the North American Game Warden Museum stands as the world’s only institution fully dedicated to both educating the public and honoring fallen wildlife officers. This one-of-a-kind museum features a memorial garden, exhibits showcasing uniforms and tools of the trade from decades past, along with a library, audio/visual area, and a fascinating collection of items seized by game wardens from across North America. In this episode, we sit down with museum manager Stephanie Lee for an insightful conversation ahead of the museum’s 2025 Fallen Officer Memorial Ceremony.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Background in outdoor education
· Began a summer job at the Peace Garden gate
· Approached by the local game warden
· “Never looked back.”
· The International Peace Garden
· Memorial stones from every state and province
· Board members from both countries
· The museum is the only one of its kind
· Educating the public
· Many of the exhibits include seized items
· Constantly changing and reimagining the space
· Campground on site
· Other activities include biking and kayaking
· Open from May – September
· “Part-time photographers”
· The popular Visiting Officer program
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
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In this episode, we talk with Sgt. Blake Patterson, a Conservation Officer from Swan River, Manitoba, and President of the North American Game Warden Museum. Blake shares insights from his 17 years in the field and discusses the museum’s role in honoring game wardens and conservation officers across North America.
Located at the International Peace Garden, the museum highlights the challenges of the profession and commemorates those who have lost their lives in the line of duty.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· The museum is a place every game warden should visit
· Joined board in 2010
· It’s elk hunting season in Manitoba!
· A unique moose lottery fundraiser
· Manitoba moose population decline
· “I’ve seen those game warden shows. I know I’m done.”
· Fun regional expressions
· The Fallen Officer Memorial Service
· Many museum exhibits feature seized items
· Antique snow machines and hand-powered rail cars
· Always looking for older tools of the trade, uniforms and paraphernalia
· Potential interactive exhibit featuring fallen officer biographies
· A night hunting helicopter chase
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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In July 2021, a peaceful family camping trip in Ohio’s vast Appalachian Hills Wilderness Area turned into a chilling crime scene. Two lives were lost, and a community was shaken. In this gripping episode, we sit down with ODNR Investigator Kirk Kiefer to uncover the layers of a complex and haunting double homicide.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Investigator Keifer appeared in a previous episode
· International Game Warden Association Officer of the Year
· ODNR’s nomination submission
· The ‘ginseng detective’
· Nomination was kept secret!
· A missing persons / suspicious activity report on State land
· The couple’s phones - and daughter - were left behind
· Suspect claimed the couple had gone to CA and were expected back
· A concerned camper contacted ODNR
· The couple’s license plate had recently been checked on the Interstate
· Suspect had a ‘tell.’
· “He was convinced I was a human lie detector.”
· The sudden confession: “I killed ‘em.”
· Killings had happened 13 days prior
· Suspect led investigators to the bodies
· Defense attorney admitted there was no defense to be mounted
· Claimed he was ‘rescuing’ the child
· Body cameras were used in case the suspect did not testify
· Appeared to feel badly about killing the female.
· “Sometimes there is no ‘why’.”
· Never expected to be investigating homicide
· Attended the couple’s memorial services
· Inter-agency cooperation was key to this case
· Killer received two automatic life terms with no parole
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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For the third time, we were able to sit down at the International Game Warden Conference held this year in Erie, Pennsylvania, with Game Warden Chris Gilkey of Ohio, Game Warden Kris McCabe of the Maine Warden Service, myself, Wayne Saunders, host of the Warden's Watch podcast, and Game Warden Andy Hueser of the Pennsylvania Game Commission who was also instrumental in the organization and implementation of this year's game warden conference.
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Introducing The Game Warden Channel! From the creators of smash hits North Woods Law and Lone Star Law, TGWC is now streaming exclusively on YouTube - bringing you even more real-life stories from game wardens across the US. In this episode, we go behind the scenes with Steve Engel and Ben Shank of Engel Entertainment, Director of Photography Jamie Azar, and New Hampshire’s own Col. Kevin Jordan and Conservation Officers Jon Demler, Austin Valladares, Kevin Bronson, and Josiah Towne. Subscribe now for an even closer look into the world of conservation law enforcement.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· “We’re back!”
· The first call was to New Hampshire
· YouTube allows more flexibility
· Episodes will feature NH, then move to Texas, Nevada, and other states
· NH Fish & Game staff voted unanimously to participate
· Carrying the torch for conservation and conservation officers
· “I’d rather be doing this than probably anything else in television.”
· Officers and camera crew become good friends
· A turkey poacher in the wrong neighborhood
· New show features a smaller crew than network television
· "It's on the interwebs!"
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Greg Traynor and Mike Hudson are the co-hosts of the Accessible Hunter Podcast, a show dedicated to promoting adaptive hunting and outdoor access for individuals with disabilities.
Greg Traynor, a passionate outdoorsman from Pennsylvania, turned his personal experience with a spinal cord injury into a mission to help others overcome physical barriers in the outdoors. Through advocacy, education, and storytelling, Greg inspires hunters to stay connected with the hunting community regardless of ability.
Mike Hudson, based in South Carolina, brings his own adaptive hunting experience and a deep understanding of the challenges faced by disabled hunters. Together, Mike and Greg use the Accessible Hunter Podcast to share powerful stories of resilience, adaptive equipment innovation, and the tight-knit community of accessible hunting enthusiasts.
Their platform highlights not only the triumphs of adaptive hunters but also the importance of making the outdoors inclusive for everyone.
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Lt. Anthony Rigoli is an Environmental Conservation Officer (ECO) who works for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (NYSDEC). In this episode, he takes us through his time as an ECO based in the last place anyone would expect to run into a game warden - New York City!
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Here’s what we discuss:
· The Great American Outdoor Show
· Many new officers begin in New York City
· “It’s a unique experience.”
· Assigned to Marine Enforcement Unit
· Specialized training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC)
· Encountering high-end watercraft
· “Being a cop is dangerous. Being out on the ocean is dangerous.”
· Many people are unaware there are game wardens in NYC
· Checking fish markets for prohibited goods
· The not-so-secret signal for illegal turtles
· City-dwelling coyotes
· Piloting a brand new 44-foot jet boat
· The challenges of living and working in the city
· “You’ll come away with experiences that no other game warden is going to get.”
· Working with highly experienced and talented officers
· Shoreline fishing in Manhattan and crafty hiding spots
· Tips from the public matter
· 17 conservation officers policing 8 million people
· An outrageous illegal chemical dumping case
Credits
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Seth Allen Martin is an American cinematographer and camera operator best known for his work on the hit Animal Planet series North Woods Law: New Hampshire. Born in Sumner, Washington, Martin has built a career behind the lens, capturing the rugged beauty and raw intensity of wildlife law enforcement across New England.
With a strong background in independent film and documentary-style production, Martin joined the North Woods Law crew during the show's transition from Maine to New Hampshire. His camera work helped bring viewers closer to the action—documenting everything from high-stakes poaching investigations to remote search-and-rescue missions in the backcountry.
Outside of television, Martin has also served as director of photography for several indie film projects, including Die-ner (Get It?) (2009). Known for his steady eye, adaptability in extreme conditions, and dedication to authentic storytelling, Martin continues to contribute to conservation-themed media and outdoor adventure filmmaking.
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In this episode, we delve into the long and distinguished career of Deming Lindsley, a retired Lieutenant from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation's Division of Law Enforcement. Known for his expertise in Fish and Wildlife Law, Lindsley served as a primary instructor at both the State College and the Division’s Training Academy for decades. His engaging personality and sense of humor made him popular among both colleagues and students, and he continues to guest lecture today, leaving a lasting impact on countless officers – including our host!
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Taught Fish & Wildlife Law at state university and Law Enforcement training Academy.
· Authored a charging reference guide for judges
· No bail in New York
· Patrolling with Dad
· Growing up the game warden’s kid
· Assigned first patrol in 1972
· Promoted to Lieutenant in just four years
· Teaching at Academy vs. College
· The unintentional getaway driver
· A news crew ride-along catches a poacher red-handed
· “You don’t need a license to jack deer.”
· Attempted bribe doesn’t go as planned
· Little green lies
· Even municipal employees can be tempted
· “Don’t go down to the cellar.”
· Keeping up with changing Fish & Wildlife laws
· People want to talk about animals and laws
· More lightning strikes than black bear attacks.
· “I never had to go to work.”
· Spearheaded one of the first Critical Incident Response teams
· Sent to NYC on 9/11
· Awards and plaques of thanks from all over
· Tried to enforce the spirit of the law, rather than the letter of the law
· Not all violators are criminals
· Teaching generations of conservation law officers
· A namesake K9
· “Do the job. You’ll never regret it.”
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett
Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches
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Jorge Ventura is a national correspondent known for his bold, on-the-ground reporting across America’s most pressing issues, including the southern border crisis, cartel activity, and civil unrest. Now with NewsNation, Ventura previously made headlines as a lead field reporter for The Daily Caller, where his immersive storytelling took him deep into the heart of stories often ignored by mainstream media.
Ventura is also an award-winning documentary filmmaker, with investigative features like Cartelville USA, Narcofornia, and Indoctrination Nation—projects that exposed illegal marijuana operations, cartel influence, and ideological shifts in public education. His work has been featured on Fox News, BBC, Sky News, and Yahoo News.
Follow Jorge Ventura on X: @VenturaReport and Instagram: @jorgeventuratv
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Just started listening. Recommend it to anyone who is into conservation and protection of the environment. Great stories, knowledge and people on every podcast.
You should do an episode on the New York State Forest Rangers, protecting the resource and saving lives since 1885. peace officers since 1971 and police officers since around 2000, (in New York there's a difference) they are a unique enforcement agency that is the other half of the DEC Division of Environmental Protection from the ECOs. Also US Forest Service LEOs might be an interesting perspective on conservation law enforcement.
Thank you for coming to the New Hampshire Expo.