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I’m your host, Jessica Murnane (author, horticultural therapy practitioner, and founder of Basker) – who is equally obsessed with the healing power of nature and the healing power of watching TV in bed. And I'm merging those two worlds together with this podcast, Inside + Outside.

Each week, my guest and I first discuss an OUTSIDE thing, like our first nature memory, how gardening can change the brain, and the rise of birding. Then we cover an INSIDE thing, like a show we’re binging, the latest internet gossip, and food, beauty, or fashion trends we love (or that need to go away).

Head to baskergardens.com for all the show notes for each episode!
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About this week’s guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: It’s Love Y’all   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Ally: Personal styling siteSubstack The Joy of birds: the effect of rating for joy or counting garden bird species on wellbeing, anxiety, and nature connection Birding With Benefits by Sarah T Dubbs DOC trailer Cut Flower Class at Redux Contemporary Art Center The Paper Canopy  Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
Jules is a natural farmer, soil researcher, and garden educator based in New Orleans. His background includes school gardening, cannabis cultivation, worm-based composting & large-scale organic food production. He currently works at Rosy Soil where he formulates peat-free, biochar-based potting soils that are organic, high quality and sustainably produced.  Show notes! This week’s sponsor: It’s Love Y’all   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Jules: TikTok InstagramRosy Soil The Surprising Ways Soil Can Aid Our Mental Health Come by Here: A Memoir in Essays from Georgia's Geechee Coast by Neesha Powell-Ingabire Red Foliated White Cotton from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange No Dig Gardening Mole Cricket Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers
About this week’s guest: Ochuko is the writer and marketer behind as seen on, a newsletter about business, culture, and gen z trends. She lives between Lagos and Europe. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Ochuko’s Newsletter: As Seen On Neighborhood attachment and its correlates: Exploring neighborhood conditions, collective efficacy, and gardening Find your hardiness / growing zone here Cool Season Cut Flower Sessions 
About this week’s guest: Michelle and her recipes have become a staple in home cooking around the globe since the publication of her first book in 2014 which was an instant #1 New York Times best-seller. She has 5 bestselling cookbooks, published in over 8 different languages.  She headed an award-winning brand, Bad Manners for 12 years and now heading up her own weekly newsletter, Stir the Pot. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Michelle’s Book: Hungry As Hell (the book with the mac n’ cheese recipe!) Website Newsletter: Stir The PotIG Understanding Food Literacy in Urban Gardeners: A Case Study of the Twin Cities, Minnesota The Moth Snowstorm by Michael McCarthy One Of Them Days Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week’s guest: Karen Azoulay is a Canadian born, Brooklyn-based artist and author. Inspired by "feminine" motifs, she explores cultural phenomena that have historically been overlooked with the purpose of recontextualizing and championing them. Karen's projects have been featured in publications such as the New York Times, New Yorker, Hyperallergic, and Vogue. Her book Flowers and Their Meanings, The Secret Language and History of Over 600 Blooms was selected by Barnes & Noble as one of the best books of 2023.    Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website   Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Karen’s Book: Flowers and Their Meanings Website Newsletter: Flowers and Their MeaningsIG Observing versus creating flowers: a review of relevance for art therapy Gomprehna seeds Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week’s guest: Barri Leiner Grant is a grief specialist and the founder of The Memory Circle for grief support – a place and space she created for those learning to live with loss. Her work has been featured in The Washington Post, Psychology Today, Maria Shriver’s Sunday Paper, on award winning podcasts, television appearances and radio shows. She frequently hosts retreats at The Omega Institute and Kripalu Center. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Jena Burton Wellness Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Barri’s: Website: The Memory Circle Newsletter: (permission GRANTed) Upcoming Events: Conscious Grieving Retreat Living With Loss: Support GroupIG Growing Grief: Cultivating Life After Death in the Garden by Avril Tynan My Mom Jayne The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning The Beauty of What Remains and For You When I’m Gone by Steve Leder
About this week’s guest: Emily Fiffer is a restaurant owner (Botanica, in Silverlake) and writer (read, eat, repeat) living in LA. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Jena Burton Wellness Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Emily’s: Restaurant: Botanica Botanica’s Online ShopNewsletter (read, eat, repeat) Prospect + Refuge Theory The Cazalet Chronicles by Elizabeth Jane Howard Doppelganger by Naomi Klein Slipsteam by Elizabeth Jane Howard 
About this week’s guest: Laura Wright is the founder of The First Mess, a blog for plant-based recipe inspiration as well as a of cookbook of the same name. Hailing from the Niagara region of southern Ontario, Laura enjoys taking on way too many projects in the garden, hiking with her dogs, working on a weekly feel-good newsletter, dilly dallying, and doing pretty much any offline activity. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Personal Business Podcast Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Laura’s: Website: The First Mess Newsletter Book: The First MessIG Study: Prescribing Nature for Human Health: An Examination of Public Interest, Barriers, and Enablers Related to Nature Prescription Programming in Canada Crispy & Chewy Air Fryer Edamame The Menopause Brain by Dr. Lisa Mosconi Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week’s guest: Michael Ventura is an accomplished leader, practitioner, and educator. As the founder of strategy and design consultancy Sub Rosa, he advised influential organizations from the American Civil Liberties Union, Goldman Sachs, Google, Microsoft, and Nike to well-respected institutions such as The United Nations and the Obama-Biden Administration. He is a visiting lecturer at institutions such as The University of Michigan's Ross School of Business, Princeton University, and the United States Military Academy at West Point. He is the author of the book, Applied Empathy, and is currently working on his second book. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Personal Business Podcast Michael’s: Newsletter: Understanding UnderstandingPersonal + Business websitesLinkedin Making Empathy A Weapon via NYT Study: Empathy with nature promotes pro-environmental attitudes in preschool children Mandela Effect Links: The ‘Mandela Effect’ describes the false memories many of us share. But why can’t scientists explain it? via CNN 50 Mandela Effect Examples via Parade Mandela Effect Short Documentary via YouTube Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week’s guest: Jessica DeFino is an award-winning beauty reporter and critic (The New York Times, Vice, Vogue). She writes the Guardian's beauty advice column, Ask Ugly, and the newsletter The Review of Beauty. She's been called "the woman the beauty industry fears" by the Sunday Herald. Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website Jessica’s Newsletter: The Review of Beauty Jessica’s Guardian Series: Ask Ugly Photos of myself make me shudder in horror. Does that mean I’m hideous? by Jessica DeFino The Relationship Between Nature and Body Image Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
About this week's guest: Joey has been a food, wine and travel journalist for almost two decades. Currently, he is on his second tour of duty at Bon Appétit and Epicurious, where he oversees all things drinks and lifestyle coverage. He was previously an editor and reporter at The Chicago Tribune, The Philadelphia Inquirer, Thrillist and Wine Enthusiast. He has worked with the James Beard Foundation on a number of committees, and is an alum of so many journalist and art fellowships (and won some awards too). Show notes! This week’s sponsor: Week Of The Website Joey at Bon Appétit Joey on Instagram Fruit Walls: Urban Farming in the 1600s Study: Psychological Impacts of Houseplants Care Behaviour on Mental Well-Being and Mindfulness Perfect Days directed by Wim Wenders How One Man’s Obsession with Fruit Created the UK’s Most Exquisite Spirits via Bon Appétit Learn To Grow Cut Flowers
I'm back! Here's a little teaser for my new podcast, Inside | Outside. Coming this summer!  Sign up for the newsletter to learn more. 
Sabia and I talk about all the ins and outs of becoming a doula. Including the difference between a doula and midwife, what it means to be a “full spectrum” doula, training vs. self-educating, to certify or not to certify, insurance/liability, the different types of doulas (there are many!), finding your speciality/niche, pricing, knowing when you’re ready for your first client, and avoiding burnout. About Sabia: Sabia Wade is a revolutionary full-spectrum doula, educator, and the founder of Birthing Advocacy Doulas and For The Village Doula Services. She works to elevate the voices and experiences of marginalized communities and embraces her role as a liberator of self by birthing new and hidden aspects of individuals…while nurturing the spaces within them that have never known love. All with the goal of autonomy, justice, and equity for all. Show Notes: Sabia’s WEBSITE + INSTAGRAM Birthing Advocacy Courses + INSTAGRAM For The Village Website + Instagram Erika Davis at Whole Body Pregnancy My books: ONE PART PLANT COOKBOOK KNOW YOUR ENDO Our Sponsors: Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Check out the original CLOUD COMFORTER and my favorite WIGGLE PILLOW. And Red Clay Hot Sauce! Use code ONEPART for $25% off your order. Check out their Gift Sets and my favorite Spicy Everything Salt.
Bari and I talk about all the ins and outs of being a ceramicist. Including going to school vs. being self-trained, building your brand and attracting clients, pricing, trade shows, the difference between fine art, collectible design, and open edition works, knowing when/how to build your team, and how sometimes things are ruined by being monetized aka maybe it’s ok to keep your art as a hobby. About Bari: Bari Ziperstein is the founder of BZIPPY, a brand known for its experimentation and innovation with ceramics. Their clients include some of the most prominent interior designers working today, and BZIPPY’s work can be found in private homes, public venues around the world, and the pages of magazines. Outside of BZIPPY, Bari’s unique designs, were seen most recently in a one-person exhibition at Charles Moffett Gallery in New York City Show Notes: BZIPPY WEBSITE + INSTAGRAM Bari’s WEBSITE + INSTAGRAM JULIA HAFT-CANDELL SEAN GERSTLEY  LUAM MELAKE RUBY NERI My books: ONE PART PLANT COOKBOOK KNOW YOUR ENDO Our Sponsors: Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Check out the original CLOUD COMFORTER and my favorite WIGGLE PILLOW. And Good Food Cooking School! Save $20 on ANY COURSE OR BUNDLE with code ONEPART.
Amber and I talk about all the ins and outs of being on a reality show. Including applying/auditioning, what producers are looking for, taking psychological tests/evaluations, seeing yourself on television, styling yourself (hair, makeup, clothes), the pay, and the non-monetary gains. About Amber: Amber is the founder and creative director of Damask Love, a popular DIY lifestyle blog where she shares her doable DIY approach to crafting. Amber hosted Disney Family Sundays, a family crafting show on Disney+, and was also a finalist in Season One of NBC’s popular crafting competition show, Making It, hosted by Amy Poehler and Nick Offerman. Amber has been featured on the cover of Parent’s Magazine and has appeared on Good Morning America, The Today Show, and Hallmark Channel’s Home and Family. Show Notes: Amber Kemp-Gerstel’s WEBSITE + Instagram yayday PAPER CO. Debbie Matenopoulos Making It Website + Instagram My books: ONE PART PLANT COOKBOOK KNOW YOUR ENDO Our Sponsors: Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Check out the new Nook Pillow and my favorite WIGGLE PILLOW. And Jack + Annie’s! Check out where you can find Jack + Annie’s near you.
Ashely P. and I talk about the difference between a librarian and library specialist, getting your Master's in Library and Information Science (MLIS), building a collection and cataloging, the pay, the different roles/jobs at a library, and learning to assert and protect yourself as a librarian. About Ashley: Ashley (also known as The Library Bae) resides in Virginia and works as a Youth Services Librarian with the Fairfax County Library System. After falling in love with her local library and its contributions to the community, she obtained her MLIS (Master of Library and Information Science) from Valdosta State University and has worked in public libraries for almost 10 years. Ashley enjoys working with youth from birth to teens, talking to and teaching others about youth literacy, STEM and STEAM, and promoting diversity, inclusion and equity in libraries. Show Notes: The Library Bae WEBSITE + SHOP The Library Bae on INSTAGRAM HARRY POTTER HOUSE QUIZ  FAVORITE LIBRARIAN My books: ONE PART PLANT COOKBOOK KNOW YOUR ENDO Our Sponsors: Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Some of my favorites: WIGGLE PILLOW, PUFFER BLANKET, HEMP LINEN DUVET COVER And GOOD FOOD COOKING SCHOOL! Use code ONEPART for $20 off any course or recipe bundle.
This week, I’m talking to Kathryn Budig. Kathryn and I talk about the difference between a yoga teacher and an instructor, finding a mentor, completing your teacher training, applying/auditioning to teach at a studio, teaching private clients, making a living as a yoga teacher, honoring the traditions of yoga, and her biggest tip on feeling ready to teach. About Kathryn Budig: Kathryn is an internationally celebrated yoga teacher, author (The Women’s Health Big Book of Yoga and the best-selling Aim True), and co-host of the Free Cookies podcast. Kathryn is also the founder of Haus of Phoenix (on Union Fit) and The Inky Phoenix (a book club for lovers of magic and story). Show Notes: Haus Of Phoenix Kathryn Budig ON INSTAGRAM Inky PhoenixKathryn’s books: The Women’s Health Big Book of Yoga and Aim TrueSeane Corn Carolina Gelen Gina Caputo Kathryn x Kira Grace (yoga collection) My books: ONE PART PLANT COOKBOOK KNOW YOUR ENDO Our Sponsors: Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Some of my favorites: Buffy Cloud Comforter, WIGGLE PILLOW, PUFFER BLANKET
This week, I’m talking to Amber Murphy. Amber shares all the ins and outs of becoming a therapist, including getting a masters in social work, the supervised hours needed to practice (and finding a supervisor), the difference between a psychotherapist and psychiatrist, practicing therapy as an empath, building a private practice, the pay, and finding your specialty. About Amber Murphy: Amber is a licensed clinical social worker and psychotherapist specializing in the treatment of chronic pain, women’s issues, anxiety, and depression. Amber pursued extensive training at the Pain Psychology Center in Beverly Hills and has spent most of her career treating the intersection of pain and anxiety. Amber uses neuroscientific pain education, mindfulness, cognitive behavioral therapy and compassion to empower her patients while relying on an interdisciplinary team to fully surround her patients with support and care.  Show Notes: Amber Murphy’s website Amber Murphy ON INSTAGRAM Alan Gordon’s book: The Way Out: A Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven Approach to Healing Chronic Pain Pain Psychology Center My books: ONE PART PLANT COOKBOOK KNOW YOUR ENDO Our Sponsors: Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Some of my favorites: Wiggle Pillow, PUFFER BLANKET,  HEMP LINEN DUVET COVER And Juna! Use code ONEPART for 20% off your order. My favorites: Ease and Balance
This week, I’m talking to Joseph Hernandez. Joseph shares all the ins and outs of working in food media. He talks about what makes a good pitch to an editor, how working for exposure is a scam, freelancing vs. salary positions, why fact checking is a great entry into food journalism, finding opportunities locally, and his three biggest tips for starting your way into food media. About Joseph Hernandez: Joseph is the deputy food editor of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Most recently, he served as research director at Bon Appétit and is an award-winning wine and food writer and former editor at the Chicago Tribune and Wine Enthusiast. He is a fellow of both the Poynter Institute's Leadership Academy for Diversity in Media and the National Critics Institute, the winner of the Frank G. Prial Fellowship at the Symposium for Professional Wine Writers, and a former vice-chair for the James Beard Award Restaurant and Chefs committee. Show Notes: Joseph Hernandez on Instagram The Philadelphia Inquirer (food section) The Cooking Gene by Michael Twitty   Poynter Institute What To Know About Your Rights To Unionize What A Labor Union Is And How It Works My books: ONE PART PLANT COOKBOOK KNOW YOUR ENDO Our Sponsors: Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Some of my favorites: BUFFY CLOUD, PUFFER BLANKET,  HEMP LINEN DUVET COVER And Franklin + Whitman! Use code ONEPART for 20% off your order. My favorites: Filter Square Face Scrub +Midtown Village Body Scrub
This week, I’m talking to Jessica Jones, a nationally-recognized Registered Dietitian and Certified Diabetes Educator. Jessica shares all the ins and outs of becoming a dietitian. We talk about schooling, private practice vs. working in a clinic/hospital, pay, the difference between a nutritionist and a dietitian, avoiding burnout, and her biggest pet peeve about work. Show Notes: What is the difference between a dietitian and a nutritionist? Jessica Jones NutritionFood Heaven 28-Day Plant-Powered Health RebootMarci Evans Nancy ClarkStreet Smart Nutrition My books: One Part Plant Cookbook Know Your Endo Today’s episode is supported by Buffy! Use code ONEPART for $20 off your order. Some of my favorites: Buffy Cloud, Puffer Blanket,  Hemp Linen Duvet Cover
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