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What do you get when you combine two knowledgeable CFP® PROFESSIONALS (one also a well-informed COLLEGE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR)? If you mix in relevant financial information and a healthy dose of humor you get the Retirement and IRA Radio Show! JIM SAULNIER, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional with Jim Saulnier and Associates who specializes in retirement planning for clients across the country, CHRIS STEIN, a Finance Instructor at Colorado State University who is also a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional, offer real-world knowledge on a diverse range of topics including Social Security planning, investing for your retirement, the fundamentals of 401(k) and IRA accounts. Jim and Chris make learning about your retirement both educational and entertaining!
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If you would like to skip over Jim and Chris’s banter on the weather, that manages to touch on Colorado water rights (an issue many east of the Mississippi probably find baffling), then you can start listening at (11:45).
Chris’s Summary
Jim and I continue our look through the Ed Slott IRA quiz, covering IRA recharacterization rules, how a surviving spouse may use a deceased spouse’s five year period following a spousal rollover, which IRA funds can roll into an employer plan, and the timing trap that can unravel the strategy of using an employer plan to separate after-tax basis from pre-tax funds.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
Chris and I are continuing our run through the Ed Slott IRA quiz — the questions Ed sends out after his twice-yearly training sessions to make sure advisors know not just the right answer but the reasoning behind it. That reasoning is where most people get tripped up, and this episode has several good examples of exactly that.
We start with IRA recharacterization rules — the deadline, what has to happen at the custodian level, how attributable gains or losses factor into the math, and a conversion planning tool that Congress took away in the 2018 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. It was a strategy that made conversion timing far more forgiving than it is today, and the fact that it is gone still stings. From there we get into the Roth IRA five-year rules — specifically a spousal rollover scenario with a twist that most people, including Chris, do not see coming. The answer turns on a benefit the tax code extends to surviving spouses that is easy to overlook if you are not specifically looking for it.
We wrap up with which IRA funds can actually be rolled into an employer plan and why that distinction matters if you are sitting on after-tax basis inside a traditional IRA. There is a clean strategy for separating it, but there is also a timing mistake that catches people who think they have successfully pulled it off — when they have not. More people fall into that trap than you would expect, and the consequences are not trivial.
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Jim and Chris discuss listener emails, opening with listener PSAs on Medicare Advantage HSA reimbursement eligibility, then moving into questions on Social Security beneficiary rules and finishing their look at conduit trusts for IRAs.
(7:00) A listener asks whether Social Security benefits can be passed on to a significant other.
(28:00) The guys continue from last week with a listener’s multi-part question on whether a conduit trust should be structured to distribute RMDs before allowing any additional withdrawals — as a strategy for controlling how beneficiaries access inherited IRA funds. The listener also asks what else could trigger a large tax bill in that setup, and whether a conduit trust provides creditor protection.
(1:15:30) George asks for the follow-up promised at the end of a recent episode — specifically, the better approach for having a trust inherit an IRA when you’re concerned about an heir mismanaging the funds.
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Chris’s Summary
Jim and I discuss the Ed Slott quiz questions from his November advisor training, opening with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions before moving into inherited IRA rules — year of death RMDs with multiple beneficiaries and the deadline for satisfying them, spousal rollover options, and spousal RMD timing.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
Chris and I dig into the Ed Slott quiz from my November advisor training — 20 questions, open book, and I scored 100 this time. We have been doing this for years and it is not just a matter of asking the question, giving the answer and moving on. We get into the rabbit holes, explain the nuances, and use it as a chance for everybody listening to test their own knowledge.
We open with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions — and the widow/widower question has nothing to do with IRAs but everything to do with retirement planning. The younger a spouse passes away the more intense the penalty, and the longer both of you live together the less it bites.
From there we get deep into inherited IRA rules, which make up the bulk of the episode. How year of death RMDs work when there are multiple beneficiaries, and what the deadline is for satisfying them — there is a question in here that Ed Slott himself argued both sides of for years because the IRS never gave guidance until July 2024. We close on spousal rollover options and RMD timing rules that only apply to surviving spouses. A spouse has choices that no other beneficiary has, and the decision of which way to go can look very different depending on the ages involved. Chris makes the point well — whenever a spouse dies, hit the pause button before you do anything.
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Chris is joined by Jake Turner to discuss listener emails on tax filing for mega backdoor Roth contributions, use of HSA funds, I Bonds redemption timing, lowering RMD pressure, and Roth conversions.
(6:30) George asks whether leaving a 1099-R off a return after after-tax 401(k) money was immediately converted to Roth means an amended return is needed or whether the IRS will simply follow up.
(12:15) A listener asks whether HSA funds can be used pre-tax to pay fully self-funded health insurance premiums.
(17:30) The guys are asked how to evaluate redeeming high fixed-rate I Bonds over several years versus waiting until maturity and risking a large one-year tax bill and IRMAA hit.
(30:45) Chris and Jake hear from a widowed listener looking for ways to reduce future RMDs and IRMAA without using Roth conversions or QCDs.
(47:45) Another listener asks whether doing very large Roth conversions over a few years could make more sense than staying within lower tax brackets over a longer period.
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Chris’s Summary
With Jim at the T3 conference in New Orleans, I am joined by Jake Turner to cover how to factor a defined benefit pension into retirement planning, using the situation of a 45-year-old law enforcement officer with a non-covered pension as the backdrop. We walk through evaluating his savings rate against the 15–20% rule of thumb, the lump sum equivalent value of his pension income, why the presence or absence of a COLA matters significantly, and how pension income fits into covering essential expenses over a long retirement.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
While I’m at the T3 conference in New Orleans, Chris and Jake use a listener’s situation to dig into retirement planning with a defined benefit pension. The listener is a 45-year-old law enforcement officer who has been contributing to his pension since day one but only started building outside accounts five years ago. He wants to know where he actually stands — and the answer is more nuanced than a simple savings rate comparison can capture.
A big part of that nuance is whether the pension is a non-covered one, meaning it replaces Social Security rather than sitting alongside it. That single distinction changes how you benchmark the savings rate entirely, and it’s the kind of thing that gets glossed over when people just throw out rules of thumb without knowing what’s underneath them. Chris and Jake also get into how pension income fits against the Minimum Dignity Floor — and why a pension that looks rock solid at retirement can tell a very different story decades later if there’s no cost-of-living adjustment attached to it.
There’s also a conversation worth hearing about lump sum options — what they’re actually worth, how to think about comparing them to the lifetime income stream, and why the big number isn’t always the better answer. If you have a defined benefit pension and you’ve been wondering how it fits into the bigger retirement picture, or whether you’re ahead or behind where you should be, this episode covers the framework for thinking it through.
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Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on PSAs regarding IRMAA reimbursements, RMD in-kind transfers, and naming a conduit trust as a retirement account beneficiary.
(8:15) A listener shares a PSA that an IRMAA reimbursement was applied as a credit balance drawn down over several months rather than a lump sum.
(17:00) The guys discuss a listener PSA on SSA-44 filing: when income is underestimated and IRMAA is owed, Medicare reconciles the difference the following November or December with no penalties or interest assessed.
(33:45) George asks whether an RMD can be satisfied through an in-kind transfer of mutual funds to a brokerage account, and whether only a portion needs to be sold to cover the tax bill.
(46:00) Jim and Chris take up a listener question about naming a conduit trust as a contingent beneficiary for retirement accounts, kicking off Part 1 of a broader discussion on see-through and conduit trusts — what each structure is, how they differ, and what happens when an IRA names a trust as its beneficiary. They begin exploring the tax implications and planning considerations involved, noting that these arrangements can create both benefits and unintended complications depending on how they’re set up. The conversation will continue on the next week’s Q&A episode, where they’ll complete this listener’s question and address additional questions received on the topic.
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Chris’s Summary
Jim and I continue our discussion on 99 Retirement Tips from Fisher Investments, picking up where we left off last week. We cover involving children in financial decisions, the liquidity trade-off of paying off a mortgage early, renting before buying in a new retirement location, lifetime gifts as part of the fun budget, and watching for financial predators including a disputed suggestion that low advisor fees may be a warning sign.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
Chris and I are back where we left off, working through Fisher Investments’ 99 Retirement Tips, and there’s still plenty to dig into. Tip 23 makes the case for involving your children in your financial decisions — and the reasons go deeper than most people think about. Tip 26 gets into mortgage payoff, and while we partially agree with what Fisher says about it — paying it down doesn’t change your net worth. But it does change your liquidity, and that distinction is worth considering.
Tip 32 is one I feel personally right now: if you’re relocating in retirement, rent first. Never move anywhere with a vacation mindset. I’m doing it in Ohio as we speak, and I’d tell anyone thinking about a move to do the same. Tip 74 recommends lifetime gifting — and the way we handle it, that spending belongs in your Fun Number budget. There’s no written rule you have to wait until you’re gone to help the people you care about.
And tip 86 covers financial predators, which is largely solid — but there’s one line in there that made my blood boil when I read it. The implication is that an advisor charging lower fees might be a warning sign. I have never seen any consumer advocate say that. The 99 retirement tips review of this particular point raises a question worth sitting with: who exactly benefits from that framing?
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Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security survivor benefits, IRMAA relief and the SSA-44 process, the Social Security earnings test, disclaiming inheritances that are brokerage accounts, and Roth conversion rules for retirees.
(6:00) A listener asks whether his wife’s early Social Security claim at 62 would reduce the survivor benefit she’d receive upon his death.
(14:00) George asks several questions stemming from a successful SSA-44 IRMAA relief request, including whether a retroactive refund is due, whether Step 3 covers the following year, and whether a separate filing is needed for his own income reduction.
(27:30) Jim and Chris respond to a listener who clarifies that benefits withheld under the Social Security earnings test are deferred, not lost, and are returned as a higher benefit at full retirement age.
(31:00) Georgette asks when it makes sense to disclaim an inherited brokerage account and whether passing the assets directly to their children is the right move.
(40:45) The guys are asked about the rules and tax implications of converting brokerage account funds to a Roth IRA, including whether having no earned income in retirement disqualifies someone from doing
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Chris’s SummaryJim and I review Fisher Investments’ 99 Retirement Tips and begin working through the list, covering only a handful in this episode. We discuss estate planning basics such as having a will, the importance of reviewing estate documents, and considering living wills and trusts, with emphasis on incapacity planning. We then examine longevity statistics, why life expectancy at birth is often misapplied, and how that connects to retirement income decisions, including Fisher’s warning on annuities.
Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I start digging into Fisher Investments’ 99 Retirement Tips and, true to form, we only make it through a few because I may have wandered down a rabbit hole or two. The estate planning stuff is straightforward—have a will, review it, don’t ignore the documents that matter if you’re alive but not fully capable. Death is easy administratively. Incapacity is where things get messy, and that’s where families struggle. And that’s where better planning matters most.
Then we get into longevity. If you’re going to say people might live longer than they think, you better use the right numbers. Not the “life expectancy at birth” headline stat. If a couple makes it to 65, the odds shift. That matters. That changes the runway. That changes how you think about income. It also changes how long that portfolio has to work, and how long decisions have to hold up.
And from there we run into the annuity warning. We’re not pro-annuity and we’re not anti-annuity. Many deserve criticism, but if longevity risk is real—and it can be—then you should evaluate lifetime income options on their merits. Social Security is guaranteed lifetime income. Income annuities are too, so they should belong in the conversation. Whether you use them depends on the situation, but you can’t talk about taking longevity seriously and then issue a blanket warning against annuities.
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Jim and Chris are joined by Jake Turner to discuss listener emails in this special tax related episode covering Roth conversions after RMD age, balancing Roth versus Traditional IRA contributions, HSA versus Roth contributions, IRA reporting questions, filing deceased tax returns, and a listener PSA on tax planning software.
(11:30) A listener asks whether converting to a Roth makes sense at age 75 while currently in the 12% bracket and taking RMDs, and whether recent tax law changes create a strategy opportunity.
(20:20) George wonders whether his 30-something children should continue using Roth contributions exclusively or begin balancing with Traditional IRA contributions as their wages increase, and asks what percentage split between Traditional and Roth accounts looks reasonable in retirement.
(48:45) The guys discuss whether covering medical expenses from an HSA and contributing to a Roth IRA, or leaving the HSA intact and paying medical bills out of pocket will result in greater retirement spending flexibility.
(57:00) Jim, Chris, and Jake address whether a spouse who retired during the year is considered covered by a workplace plan, how to answer prior nondeductible IRA contribution questions, and whether Form 8606 is required after making and converting a small IRA contribution in the same year.
(1:10:30) George asks how to handle the direct deposit of a refund on a deceased final 1040, including whether to use the estate bank account with an EIN or the decedent’s existing account, and whether a paper check remains an option.
(1:15:30) A listener PSA introduces Catalyst Tax Insights, a free tool to run “what if” scenarios and estimate taxes owed without using full tax software.
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If you would rather not listen to the guys’ banter about Jacob’s upcoming move to Iowa, Jim’s garden planning, and a listener correction about the word “imbibe” you can skip ahead to (33:30).
Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Jacob Vonloh as we discuss using Buffered ETFs prompted by a Morningstar article titled “Buffer ETFs Are Not for Everyone.” We explain how defined outcome ETFs use options to provide an explicit amount of loss protection over a given period while limiting potential gains, and we outline why these products are generally suboptimal for long-term investors. We then connect this to investment positioning, focusing on risk capacity, distribution planning, and why dollars assigned to delay-period Minimum Dignity Floor and Go-Go spending may require a degree of principal protection.
Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I are joined by Jacob Vonloh as we take a listener-submitted Morningstar article—“Buffer ETFs are not for Everyone”—and use it to kick off what is going to be a series on principal protection. Morningstar does a very good job in this article laying out what it likes about buffered products, and it also makes some excellent points on where these types of products would fit and where they don’t fit. They’re not for everybody, but they could be of interest in certain cases, in a certain application, and we’re going to share how we use them.
What I want to do in this series is broaden the conversation. Buffered ETFs are just one type of principal protected product. There are multiple tools in that category, and we’re going to walk through where they fit into distribution planning. As you transition from accumulation into what I call the Venn diagram phase, and ultimately into distribution, you have to stop thinking of your portfolio as one big portfolio and start thinking in terms of smaller portfolios—investment positions—based on assigned spending. Dollars earmarked for a legacy position can be invested aggressively. Dollars earmarked for immediate spending—like the Go-Go reserve or the reserve for your MDF—need a degree of principal protection. This ties directly into the Secure Retirement Income Process and the See Through Portfolio and how we navigate asset positioning in retirement.
Show Notes: Morningstar Buffered ETFs article
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Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Medicare Part B decisions for retirees abroad, Social Security survivor benefit surprises, inherited Roth IRA distribution rules, and balancing Treasuries versus annuities when “safety” is more emotional than mathematical.
(6:45) A listener asks about situations where it might make sense to skip Medicare Part B, including retirees living abroad with strong foreign coverage and people who move to the U.S. later in life and must pay for Parts A and B.
(33:30) George asks why some widows and widowers don’t end up receiving the full benefit their spouse was receiving, even when the surviving spouse’s payment increases after the death.
(52:30) The guys respond to a question about whether an inherited Roth IRA requires annual distributions when the original owner was old enough to have RMDs, or whether the beneficiary can wait until year 10.
(1:11:00) Jim and Chris revisit the annuities versus Treasuries discussion through the lens of fear and peace of mind, including why someone might emotionally trust Treasuries more than insurer guarantees even if the math favors SPIAs.
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Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Steve Sansone as we revisit Cash Balance Plans and respond to listener follow-up emails.
(8:30) A CPA asks whether cash balance plans could be a fit for farmers with high income near retirement driven by deferred grain and equipment sales.(18:30) A listener with two controlled-group businesses asks how a cash balance plan works with divergent profit cycles, whether it can support succession planning, and whether it makes sense if ownership works until death.(36:45) A financial advisor asks for real-world details on costs, duplication/administration, duration, interest crediting rate risk, investment management, participant inclusion decisions, partner exits, lifetime maximums, and terminate/restart mechanics.
Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I are joined by Steve Sansone as we dig back into cash balance plans, but this time we’re doing it by letting listener questions drive the conversation. We take three listener emails that each come at this from a different angle: one from a CPA working with farmers facing lumpy income near retirement, one from a family dealing with two controlled-group businesses that don’t behave the same way financially, and one from an advisor who’s basically saying, “Convince me this isn’t just theoretical.”
Chris and I talk with Steve about what makes these plans work and what makes them a headache—cash flow consistency, the “permanence” expectation, why manufacturers with lots of employees can be a tough fit, and how quickly the math changes when you have to fund meaningful benefits for staff. We also get into the stuff people don’t always hear in the sales pitch: what “interest crediting” really means, where the risk lives if returns don’t cooperate, and why newer market-rate designs change the conversation compared to older fixed-rate versions.
And we cover the messy real-life questions: what happens when partners leave, what it looks like to terminate and restart a plan, and why you can’t treat this like an investment strategy with a neat five-to-ten-year horizon. It’s a tax and retirement-acceleration tool with rules, tradeoffs, and guardrails—and Steve does a solid job laying out when it’s worth the complexity and when it’s just not.
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Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on IRMAA appeals using Form SSA-44, avoiding the 10% early withdrawal penalty, and whether a 403(b) distribution can be rolled into an IRA. Jim also manages to turn a discussion on Superbowl food to a conversation on retirement planning for the Go-Go phase of life (with a few other stops in between). So, if you typically skip the banter you may want to tune in around (10:10) for that discussion.
(16:30) George shares his experience repeatedly filing Form SSA-44 to correct IRMAA determinations and explains how Social Security processed and applied his updated income information.
(35:00) A listener asks whether a qualified annuity can be used instead of a 72(t) series of substantially equal periodic payments to avoid the 10% early withdrawal penalty.
(1:04:45) The guys discuss whether 403(b) distributions can be completed as 60-day rollovers into Traditional and Roth IRAs, and whether a custodian could refuse to accept the rollover.
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Chris’s SummaryJim and I discuss spending anxiety in retirement using a Washington Post article written by a personal finance columnist describing her fear of spending after her husband retires. We look at why the shift from saving to spending can feel destabilizing even when pensions and Social Security are in place, and why fear can persist despite adequate planning. We also address the difference between spending income and spending savings, and how that distinction often affects behavior once retirement begins.
Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I use a Washington Post article as a jumping-off point to talk about the moment retirement stops being theoretical and the fear around spending often shows up. The part that stuck with me in this situation is that nothing went wrong. One spouse retires. The other is still working. Pensions are there. Social Security is there. The house is paid off. And the fear shows up anyway. That’s what made me save the article in the first place. She writes about personal finance for a living, and she’s still cutting small expenses, feeling better for five minutes, and then right back to worrying. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again—I don’t expect to be immune to that when it’s my turn.
What keeps coming up for me is how differently people react to where the money comes from. Most people are comfortable spending a pension check or a Social Security deposit. It’s like a bottomless cup of coffee—you don’t think about the last sip because another one’s coming. But savings? That’s different. Even when the math works, even when the plan says you’re fine, drawing from something you’ve built for decades feels heavier. That’s where the spending anxiety shows up. Spending slows down. Decisions get second-guessed. Things get pushed out a year at a time. Not because people can’t afford them, but because the shift from saving to spending is uncomfortable.
Show Notes: Article: My husband just retired. I’m scared of running out of money.
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Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security timing for HSA contributions, investing in a SPIA vs buffered ETFs, and using SEPP 72(t) income to manage ACA credits.(7:00) A listener describes delaying a Social Security filing to avoid Medicare Part A backdating that would have reduced prior-year HSA contributions, while still receiving full retroactive benefits.(28:00) Georgette asks what to do with money originally set aside for a condo purchase, weighing ETFs against buying a single premium immediate annuity (SPIA), given an existing fixed indexed annuity (FIA), and pension income that cover living expenses.(55:45) The guys address whether a SPIA purchased inside a rollover IRA can be used to satisfy SEPP 72(t) rules while keeping income low enough to preserve max ACA credits.
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If you’d like to skip over the guys chatting about cold weather and football you can to (8:15).
Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Jacob as we continue our discussion on asset positioning and explain how we approach managing investment assets within a distribution portfolio. We outline why dollars are assigned based on purpose and timing and how asset positioning functions as a form of asset-liability matching. The episode addresses cash versus cash-like roles, outcome periods, and how specific tools are evaluated within a broader distribution-focused framework.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
Chris and I are joined by Jacob as we dig further into how we think about handling portfolios once people are in retirement, specifically through the lens of asset positioning. This episode is built around clarifying how dollars get assigned jobs based on when they’ll be needed and why that sequencing drives the structure of a distribution portfolio.
We spend time breaking down the difference between cash and cash-like holdings and why that distinction matters when money is earmarked for different time horizons. A big part of the discussion centers on outcome periods, how certain tools behave between start and finish, and why mark-to-market pricing during that window can be misleading if you don’t understand what the holding is meant to do. Jacob walks through concrete examples that show how interim movement can look unsettling even when the structure is functioning exactly as designed.
We also get into why disclosure language sounds the way it does across virtually every type of holding, including ones most people are comfortable calling cash. The point isn’t semantics — it’s understanding the gap between legal language and functional role inside a portfolio. Everything ties back to structure, timing, and purpose. This is about how distribution portfolios actually operate in retirement, and why evaluating them with the wrong expectations creates confusion that doesn’t need to be there.
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Jim and Chris discuss listener emails on Social Security survivor benefits and the earnings test, share a listener PSA on Social Security timing and IRMAA, then cover ERISA protections for retirement rollovers and a PSA from Greg on lifetime unlimited long-term care policies.(9:45) Georgette asks whether she must still take her husband’s required minimum distributions if he passes during his RMD year and how Social Security survivor benefits work, including whether she should claim a widow’s benefit or wait to take her own.(50:45) A listener asks how the Social Security earnings test applies when someone retires before full retirement age and applies midyear, and how to avoid missing a month of income due to the timing of benefit payments.(55:00) The guys share a PSA about applying for Social Security and receiving benefits within days, which caused an unexpected IRMAA impact.(1:00:35) Jim and Chris discuss whether rolling Roth and pre-tax 401(k) assets into IRAs results in losing ERISA protections, or if separate rollover IRAs are needed to preserve those protections.(1:15:15) Greg, from our office, shares a PSA clarifying that some lifetime unlimited long-term care policies still exist.
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If you want to miss all the fun banter about Jim’s Singo (song bingo) night and his trip to Kentucky and Amish country you can skip ahead to (16:00).
Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Jacob Vonloh as we discuss investing for retirees, using a listener email as the starting point for a broader conversation about how investment advice and asset management work in practice. We explain why investing changes once people move from accumulation into distribution, including differences in risk tolerance, liquidity needs, and volatility. Jacob outlines how investment tools are evaluated based on time horizon and downside exposure rather than labels. We also discuss planning for aging and long-term care costs, including liquidity needs, inflation considerations, and the SEAL (Savings for Emergencies, Aging, and Long-Term Care) reserve framework.
Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I are joined by Jacob Vonloh as we start a new series of conversations inspired by listener emails, and we use those questions as a jumping-off point to talk about what really changes when you’re investing in retirement. A lot of DIY investors successfully built wealth with an accumulation mindset and then try to carry that same approach into retirement, where it doesn’t work. The problem is that accumulation investing and retirement investing are not the same thing, and pretending they are is where people get themselves into trouble. Once withdrawals begin, volatility feels different, timing matters more, and the emotional impact of market swings gets amplified in ways people don’t expect.
We spend time pulling apart how the investment advice industry presents itself, how fee structures are typically layered in, and why we’re very intentional about separating retirement planning from asset management. Jacob walks through how we evaluate investments based on when the money might be needed and how much downside someone can realistically tolerate. Buffered ETFs come up in that context, not as a recommendation, but as a clean example of how downside protection and upside caps reshape risk. The point isn’t the product — it’s that comparing retirement-stage tools to a fully unbuffered equity index without adjusting for risk is fundamentally misleading.
From there, we connect investing back to real planning issues retirees face, especially aging and long-term care. We talk about why insurance isn’t always available or sufficient, how covering one spouse can still protect a household, and why the financially hardest stretch is often when both spouses are alive and care costs begin to show up. That leads into how we think about liquidity, inflation, and time horizon working together inside what we call the SEAL reserve. This isn’t about chasing returns — it’s about structuring money so it can actually support people through retirement without forcing panic decisions at the worst possible time.
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Jim and Chris discuss listener questions on Social Security survivor benefits and divorce rules, a listener PSA on spousal benefits, HSA contribution limits, and whether annuities make sense versus Treasury bonds.
(8:45) A listener asks whether someone who is newly widowed can claim survivor Social Security now, keep working part time, and later switch to their own benefit, and also asks whether you still offer a “coffee and second opinion” or an a la carte Social Security review.
(23:00) The guys field a question from someone with two ex-spouses asking if it’s possible to combine their own Social Security with part of either (or both) ex-spouses’ benefits.
(33:30) George shares a PSA on how filing for Social Security online triggered a spousal-benefit eligibility notice for their spouse, and how the follow-up phone appointment worked without needing an in-person visit or marriage certificate.
(45:15) Jim and Chris answer a question about 2026 HSA contribution limits for two spouses on an ACA family plan who each opened their own HSA and want to avoid overfunding.
(54:45) One writer asks why they should consider annuities given fees and insurer risk when they can buy 20-year Treasury bonds, and adds a quick note about simplifying word choice from a prior email discussion.
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You guys are great but this is ridiculous. Even with 5,000,000 left in a pie & spending $10,000 month, which is $2000 over their minimum AND ONLY earning 1% return, their money would last 50+ years. Simply put, they are way over fine.
$700k for long term? Wow.. What the hell are their RMDs going to be? Throw it in bonds & earn 2-4%, that would cut your $700k in half. And that is pretty safe. Plus it's their.... Liquid.
You guys are losing me. in the example you give with a couple that has a shortage of $500 a month, there is absolutely no reason for them to buy an annuity. at age 62 if they invested $75,000 earning a conservative 6% that return would be over $200,000 and you if you take an income of $1,000 a month on that $200,000 earning CD ladder rate of 2.5% it's going to last you another 20 years. and the extra $500 a month way over compensates inflation. I'm i missing something? I'm looking for CFP's to do a retirement plan for me. I like your approach, but I'm a diy person who needs just a little coaching.
When you use examples of a typical retiree should be based on what the average person has. I laugh when I hear CFP talk about planning a $3 million retirement. What a joke. If you cbs that much money and you can't manage it, you don't deserve it. And that person isn't what the average person listening to your podcast has saved. We listen to these podcast to learn how to less. A better hypothetical person would only have $500k to $1M. I listen another CFP that teaches how to retire with $100k, $300k, etc. What the average person has. Love you guys.