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Welcome to the RiskReversal Pod, where Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by the most brilliant minds in markets and tech. 


We break down the most important market moving headlines to help listeners make better informed investing decisions.


Our goal is to deconstruct Wall Street speak and offer contrarian insights and strategies that help investors navigate increasingly volatile markets.


Tune into the RiskReversal Pod Monday through Friday for succinct 30 minute pod drops of market analysis that you won't find anywhere else.


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In this episode of the RiskReversal Podcast, Dan Nathan and Guy Adami host Jurrien Timmer, Director of Global Macro Research at Fidelity Investments. The discussion reflects on the October 2023 market scenario when the 10-year yield reached 5% and the S&P 500 declined by 10%. Jurrien discusses the current bond market's stability, the geopolitical factors influencing gold prices, and the stock market's concentration risks with a focus on the Magnificent Seven (Mag 7) tech stocks. The conversation also covers interest rate risks, economic policies, and the potential implications of Japan's bond market volatility on global markets. Ian provides insights into valuation models, diversification strategies, and the AI boom's speculative nature, highlighting the need for careful portfolio management in a high-valuation environment. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan is joined by Steve Milunovich, a tech investor and retired sell-side analyst from Merrill Lynch. The discussion delves into the parallels between the AI boom and the dotcom era, touching on technological waves from the 1980s to the present. Milunovich highlights similarities such as early-stage winners, heavy capital expenditures, and the emergence of application layers later on. They also discuss the circular financing in the tech industry and potential risks, including heavy reliance on significant players like Nvidia and issues surrounding supply constraints. The conversation explores the broader implications of AI across various industries, including financial institutions and industrials, and considers the timeline for wider adoption and monetization of AI technologies. The dialogue is framed by historical context, with references to past tech bubbles, network effects, and the potential for new winners in unexpected sectors. Show Notes AI: The Wrong Kind of Bubble (Breadcrum.vc) Meta inks deal to pay Corning up to $6 billion for fiber-optic cables in AI data centers (CNBC) AI productivity is about to become visible and investable (FT) —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Guy Adami and Dan Nathan break down the biggest week of earnings season 2026, featuring high-stakes reports from Boeing, Microsoft, Texas Instruments, Apple, SanDisk, Western Digital, Exxon, and Chevron. Plus, Jen Saarbach and Kristin Kelly join for "He Said She Said" to analyze Japan's historic bond market crisis and the Netflix-Warner Bros-Paramount M&A saga. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by David Rosenberg, founder and president of Rosenberg Research. The discussion covers Rosenberg's past market predictions, his outlook for 2025-2026, and his insights on various economic themes. Rosenberg reflects on his bearish stance on US equities and bullish view on long-term treasuries, analyzing key trends like inflation, the impact of tariffs, and the strength of the US dollar. The conversation also touches on the influence of AI-related investments in the market, the economic implications of stock market performance, and the potential for recession given current employment and income data. Rosenberg emphasizes the importance of understanding market cycles and the significant role of investor behavior. The episode concludes with his views on gold prices, central bank policies, and possible future economic scenarios. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa discuss recent advancements in AI-driven coding tools like Replit and Claude Cowork, sharing personal experiences and their potential to disrupt traditional software development. They elaborate on conversations with Amjad Masad of Replit and Aaron Levie of Box about the future of AI in software. The discussion also touches on the US-China AI rivalry, with CEOs from major tech companies urging policy support to compete with China's subsidized AI ecosystem. The conversation highlights concerns over software disruption, the impact of AI on the software market, and geopolitical implications for AI innovation. After the break, Dan chats with Gene Munster, Managing Partner at Deepwater Asset Management, discuss the current state and future trends in AI-related investments as of 2026. Gene shares his perspectives on the AI market’s evolution over recent years, particularly focusing on key players like Nvidia and the dynamics around training versus inference. They talk about the impact of recent developments in coding assistants like Claude from Anthropic and its implications for the technology sector. The conversation also covers the valuation and growth prospects of major tech firms including Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta, highlighting their individual strategies and market performance. The dialogue underscores a cautious optimism in the AI sector, with a focus on how technological advancements and market sentiment will influence investment decisions. Links Watch Dee's Convo with Replit's CEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOa3SfkQ0vE Watch Dee's Convo with the CEO of Box: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2024/11/12/box-ceo-trumps-deregulation-could-spark-a-tech-supercycle.html —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Guy Adami is joined by Danny Moses for a wide‑ranging macro conversation on gold, silver, Japan, energy stocks, banks, the Fed and the “K‑shaped” U.S. economy. They start with precious metals, breaking down why silver’s industrial demand from EVs, solar and AI data centers is creating a structural supply squeeze, what it means for gold vs. silver, and how miners like Coeur Mining (CDE), Freeport‑McMoRan (FCX) and Newmont (NEM) fit into the trade. From there, they connect the metals story to Japan’s weakening yen, surging bond yields, the carry trade, and the risk that a “point of no return” in Japanese policy spills over into U.S. Treasuries and global risk assets. In this episode of 'He Said, She Said', Guy Adami, Kristen Kelly & Jen Saarbach dive into the theme of unintended consequences. The discussion begins with Jerome Powell's saga and its implications on the Fed's independence and market reactions, highlighting potential political maneuvers and their backfires. Transitioning to monetary policy, they analyze the complexities of interest rate decisions and the perceptions of Fed control over the yield curve. Shifting to consumer finance, they debate the Biden administration's proposal to cap credit card rates and its potential repercussions on the economy. Corporate drama takes center stage with an in-depth analysis of the bidding war for Warner Brothers, involving Netflix, Paramount, and regulatory hurdles, likened to a real-life 'Succession'. They conclude by addressing headlines about Blackstone's housing market involvement and the impact on prices, underscoring the intricate web of economic policies and market behaviors. The episode wraps with discussions on gold and silver markets, oil prices, and the weakening US dollar, showcasing the multifaceted landscape of global finance. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Andrew Ross Sorkin joins Dan Nathan on the RiskReversal Podcast to dig into his new book, 1929: Inside the Greatest Crash in Wall Street History and How It Shattered a Nation, and what the lessons of the 1920s mean for today’s stock market, Fed policy, and AI bubble talk. They connect the dots between the roaring ’20s and 2026: meme stocks like GameStop and AMC, crypto manias, “democratizing finance,” tariffs, Federal Reserve debates, margin debt, and how political power shapes Wall Street from Hoover and Roosevelt to the current administration. Follow our boy Bill on Instagram —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan sits down with FirstMark Capital co-founder Rick Heitzmann and Jesse Chasse from RBC Capital Markets to unpack why 2026 is the first year VCs feel truly bullish again, as resilient growth, easing rates, and maturing AI set the stage for a new tech cycle. They dig into how AI-powered startups are disintermediating legacy SaaS names, why 80-90% of venture returns still come in the public markets, and what it takes to build the next Pinterest, Shopify, DraftKings, or Airbnb. The conversation covers AI’s impact on white-collar jobs, the shift from infrastructure to application-layer winners, and what the coming wave of marquee IPOs means for valuations, scarcity, and whether we’re in a bubble or a genuine AI-driven supercycle. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami host a special edition of the RiskReversal Podcast where they introduce a new segment called 'He Said, She Said,' featuring Jen Saarbach and Kristen Kelly of 'The Wall Street Skinny.' The episode explores the upcoming bank earnings, focusing on major money centers and investment banks like JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, and Morgan Stanley. Discussions include the impact of recent economic data, monetary policies, and fiscal initiatives on market dynamics. They delve into specifics like price-to-tangible book ratios, interest rates, and debt issuance calendars. The hosts and guests share insights into the current market sentiment, the role of inflation, expenses in the banking sector, and the broader economic implications. The episode also highlights the importance of storytelling and clarity in financial education and market analysis. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami host Mike Wilson, Chief U.S. Equity Strategist and CIO at Morgan Stanley. The conversation covers the impact of inflation on stocks, the Federal Reserve's stance on interest rates, and the current state of the employment market. Mike emphasizes the Fed's priority on funding the deficit and job growth over controlling inflation. The discussion includes the role of AI in corporate productivity, sector-specific investment opportunities, and the intricacies of the IPO and M&A markets. Mike also addresses potential deflationary forces, equity risk premiums, and the broader economic implications of industrial and consumer good sectors. Throughout, they highlight the importance of staying tactical and adaptable in investment strategies. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan brings back Deirdre Bosa, anchor of CNBC's Tech Check. to kick off 2026! The episode dives into recent tech highlights from CES, such as Nvidia's ventures into autonomous driving and the latest from Boston Dynamics. They address the evolving AI landscape, including market reactions to companies like Tesla, Waymo, and Baidu. The discussion also covers potential risks in the tech sector, especially in relation to China's growing tech capabilities and geopolitical tensions. After the break, Dan sits down with Jeff Richards, managing partner at Notable Capital, to discuss the exciting landscape of tech investment. They cover a range of topics from the growth and rotation in tech markets, notable trends in private and public tech companies, to the challenges and opportunities in the IPO market. Jeff highlights the rapid adoption of AI across various industries, the significant impact of private tech companies, and the potential for major tech IPOs in the coming years. The conversation also touches on financial market dynamics, the implications of government debt, and the future of tech innovation and investment. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
This episode is sponsored by Fidelity Investments and the all-new Fidelity Trader+ platform. Try Fidelity’s most powerful trading experience yet: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fidelity.com/trading/trading-platforms?immid=100734&imm_pid=430504639&imm_aid=a&dfid=&buf=99999999⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Views, opinions, products, services, and strategies discussed are not endorsed or promoted by Fidelity Investments. Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC, Member NYSE, SIPC In this special annual mailbag episode of the Risk Reversal Podcast, Guy Adami and Dan Nathan address questions from listeners and viewers, reflecting on a turbulent 2025 and looking forward to 2026. Topics include market volatility, the impact of AI, and the performance of major tech stocks. The discussion also covers forecasts for companies like Uber, the potential of gold and mining stocks, the future of big cap pharma and biotech, and the outlook for US and international ETFs. Additionally, the hosts share insights on risk management, technical analysis, and trade strategies. They conclude with bold predictions for the next year, including a strong stance on market diversification and the performance of the Knicks in the NBA. Show Notes An Interview with Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi About Aggregation and Autonomy (Stratechery) Companies Are Outlining Plans for 2026. Hiring Isn’t One of Them. (WSJ) Ph.D.s Can’t Find Work as Boston’s Biotech Engine Sputters (WSJ) —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami host Steph Guild, Chief Investment Officer at Robinhood. Steph discusses her 2026 market outlook, reflecting on tech sector growth, AI developments, and S&P 500 predictions. She emphasizes her cautious approach for the coming year, focusing on diversification and value investing. After the break, Steve Quirk, Chief Brokerage Officer at Robinhood joins the pod. Steve talks about Robinhood's latest offerings, including prediction markets and event contracts, highlighting their rapid growth and retail investor interest. The episode also explores new AI tools like Cortex for customer portfolio management and Robinhood's new social platform aimed at fostering community and idea sharing among investors. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Dan Nathan and Liz Thomas welcome Oz Pearlman, a renowned mentalist and author of 'Read Your Mind: Proven Habits for Success.' Pearlman discusses his recent book launch and whirlwind media tour, including appearances on CNBC, CNN, and 'The Joe Rogan Experience'. He delves into his journey from a Wall Street job to becoming a professional mentalist, highlighting the persistence and relentless pursuit of his goals. Pearlman shares insights on achieving success, the importance of mentors, and cultivating mutually beneficial relationships. He also speaks about dealing with hecklers, overcoming rejection, and creating memorable interactions. Additionally, the conversation touches on the implications of generative AI on various professions and the enduring value of human connection. The episode concludes with Pearlman performing mind-blowing tricks, impressing Dan and Liz. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
This episode is sponsored by Fidelity Investments and the all-new Fidelity Trader+ platform. Try Fidelity’s most powerful trading experience yet: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fidelity.com/trading/trading-platforms?immid=100734&imm_pid=430504639&imm_aid=a&dfid=&buf=99999999⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Views, opinions, products, services, and strategies discussed are not endorsed or promoted by Fidelity Investments. Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC, Member NYSE, SIPC In this episode of 'Okay, Computer' Dan Nathan and Dan Ives, the Global Head of Technology Research at Wedbush Securities, reunite to discuss the resurgence of their podcast and the state of the tech industry. They reflect on past conversations, significant tech changes, and the return of their brand due to popular demand. They delve deeply into the impact of AI on the technology sector, the volatility in the space, and how retail and institutional investors can navigate these changes. Ives highlights his AI-themed ETF, IVES, explaining its investment strategy and evolution. The duo also explores the challenges and opportunities in enterprise software, the performance of tech giants like Microsoft, Google, and Apple, and the significant disruptions brought by AI. Later, Adam Singolda, CEO of Taboola, joins to discuss his company's strategy and the broader implications of AI on journalism and advertising, emphasizing the need for ethical practices in using AI-generated content. The episode provides a comprehensive look at the transformative power of AI and its implications across various tech sectors. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
In this episode of the RiskReversal Podcast, Guy & Liz discuss the potential risks of a market bubble, the validity of 2025 predictions, and the outlook for 2026. Key topics include sector performance, expectations for the small-cap market, and the implications of the yield curve inversion. The episode also highlights the significance of gold and other precious metals in the current economic climate. The discussion covers broader economic factors such as fiscal stimuli and interest rate differentials, particularly in Japan, and their impact on global markets. Read Liz's outlook here: https://www.sofi.com/article/investment-strategy/the-2026-outlook/ Timecodes 0:00 - 2025 Retrospective 5:45 - 2026 Big Picture 11:50 - Small Caps 16:00 - Yield Curve 21:15 - Japan Factor 25:30 - Gold —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
This episode is sponsored by Fidelity Investments and the all-new Fidelity Trader+ platform. Try Fidelity’s most powerful trading experience yet: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fidelity.com/trading/trading-platforms?immid=100734&imm_pid=430504639&imm_aid=a&dfid=&buf=99999999⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Views, opinions, products, services, and strategies discussed are not endorsed or promoted by Fidelity Investments. Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC, Member NYSE, SIPC Dan Nathan hosts Dan Niles, founder and portfolio manager at Niles Investment Management, on the Risk Reversal Podcast. They review market trends from 2025 and look ahead to 2026, discussing the implications of AI, potential market bubbles, and macroeconomic factors. They examine the challenges for companies like OpenAI, which faces funding and competition issues, and explore the broader market impact of AI and tech investments. They also touch on China’s tech advancements, U.S.-China trade dynamics, and specific company performances including Nvidia, Oracle, Cisco, and Palantir. The conversation concludes with insights into the economic outlook for 2026 in light of inflation trends, fiscal policies, and potential market volatility. Show Notes OpenAI in Talks to Raise At Least $10 Billion From Amazon and Use Its AI Chips (The Information) —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
In this episode of the Okay, Computer Podcast, host Dan Nathan welcomes Ed Elson, the host of Prof G Markets and the First Time Founders podcast. They discuss the dynamics of hosting versus guesting on podcasts, Ed's journey from being an intern for Scott Galloway to co-hosting podcasts with him, and the evolution of Gen Z's relationship with markets and investing. They delve into the generational differences in economic opportunities, the impact of technological advancements, and the challenges and potentials of AI. The conversation touches on notable trends like meme stocks, cryptocurrencies, and the broader implications of AI on job markets and business. They also explore how the current market is shaped by both hype and practicalities surrounding AI investments. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Guy Adami and Liz Thomas from SoFi discuss the impact of recent Federal Reserve decisions on the market. They analyze the Fed's dovish rate cuts and the implications of its plans to buy $40 billion in treasuries. The conversation shifts to the underperformance of Bitcoin despite expectations for a boost from the Fed's liquidity actions. They explore broader market trends, including the recent Empire Manufacturing Survey's dismal results, and upcoming significant economic data releases such as the unemployment rate and CPI numbers. The episode concludes with insights into the potential future of the AI revolution and its market implications for 2026. Timecodes 0:00 - Fed Speak & BTC 6:15 - Data Talk 13:20 - Jobs/Inflation 19:00 - AI Revolution —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
In this episode of the RiskReversal Podcast, host Dan Nathan and guest Peter Boockvar, CIO at One Point BFG Wealth Partners, speak with Louis Vincent-Gave, CEO and founder of Gavekal, to discuss the evolving economic competition between the US and China. They explore the impact of past trade embargos, particularly the 2018 semiconductor embargo, and China's response which led to significant industrial advancements. The conversation touches on the implications for global markets, US companies, and the strategic shifts in industrial policy. They also delve into the potential outcomes of continued US-China rivalry, including the growing importance of AI technology, state capitalism, and the future role of the US and China in global trade. The episode highlights the complexities and potential shifts in economic power dynamics and the strategic responses required on both sides. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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