Why are young people today reporting the highest levels of anxiety, depression, loneliness, and despair in modern history?Dr. Angela Duckworth is a professor of psychology at the University of Pennsylvania and one of the world’s leading voices on grit, self-control, and the science of thriving. In this conversation with Dr. Michael Gervais, Angela reflects on how her thinking about grit has evolved, where it’s often misunderstood, and why perseverance without purpose can become harmful instead of helpful.They explore what excellence really looks like behind the scenes. Not the highlight reel, but the long stretch of deliberate practice and repeated effort that most people never see. Angela also reframes passion as something that develops over time, and offers a practical lens for staying committed when enthusiasm fades and outcomes take longer than expected.The conversation expands beyond performance into family life and parenting. They examine the cultural forces shaping today’s youth: the rise of social media, the erosion of in-person connection, the displacement of nature, and the unintended consequences of modern parenting. Angela shares what the data actually shows about the mental health crisis, and what we as parents, educators, and leaders can do about it. In this episode, you’ll learn:What grit really is, and what it isn’t Why excellence comes from high-quality practice over timeHow passion develops slowly, and why it can be treated like a skillHow to stay committed when motivation fadesWhy environments shape kids more than pressure doesWhy young people’s happiness has sharply declined since 2010What the research says about anxiety, depression, and loneliness in Gen ZHow screens and social disconnection may be reshaping well-beingPractical ways parents can create environments where kids can truly thrive________________________________________________________Links & ResourcesSubscribe to our Youtube Channel for more conversations at the intersection of high performance, leadership, and wellbeing: https://www.youtube.com/c/FindingMasteryGet exclusive discounts and support our amazing sponsors! Go to: https://findingmastery.com/sponsors/Subscribe to the Finding Mastery newsletter for weekly high performance insights: https://www.findingmastery.com/newsletter Download Dr. Mike's Morning Mindset Routine: findingmastery.com/morningmindset Follow on YouTube, Instagram, LinkedIn, and XDavid Blanchflower Article: Blanchflower DG, Bryson A, Xu X (2025) “The declining mental health of the young and the global disappearance of the unhappiness hump shape in age.” https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0327858See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This got spicy about 3/4 in.
108 thoughts on goal setting
52 minit Mark meeting matters
her endless "...mhmmm...mhmmm" was super annoying. sounded like a mediocre carbon copy of the Meyers Briggs and all these other stupid personal tests.
Great episode! I’d love to hear an episode with Dr Valter Longo on this topic. He’s one of the world’s leading experts on longevity and a pioneer in fasting. 🙂
What an asshole. Michael dealt with his guest's arrogance well but what an actual prick
lmao talks about needing someone else for confidence then says she thrives under pressure. somewhat contradictory but ok.
Mhm, mhm x10
lmao let go of your color privilege (for white people of course) then why can't people of color "just let it go" in terms of these people parroting victimhood mentality...? pathetic.
an attitude of gratitude
anxiety....the roots are likely embedded in social media!!
love julie such a strong intelligent woman.
Robert Greene!!! Gervais's Podcast is amazing! So much value!
I'm a person who also 'suffers' from hitting my head too many times, TBI and all the darkness that comes with it. Hearing what he has to say about being in a dark place and not knowing if or when your brain will reconnect really resonated with me. I needed to hear this now. I've been listening to hours of podcasts daily, mostly from Finding Mastery and Rich Roll, trying to build a stronger mind and a more courage to face my situation and feel my emotions versus bottling them like I've been doing since learning this mechanism in childhood from seeing how my parents handle adversity and emotions. Not ideal in my situation. Hearing Pat talk about his mindset, how he feels emotions but let's them pass through and how this is done with the positive and the negative is something I needed to hear. Pain and resentment is something that is not easy to let go of when your mindset is to keep pushing and to do more. Brain injuries and repetitive head trauma that takes your personality from you for
Alex is a genuine warrior & reflect the true spirit of the climbing community. An excellent episode - thank you. 🙏
Terrible. Such biggotry unchallenged.
What an intense, inspiring and unexpected story! I listen to your Finding Mastery podcast quite often while riding the light rail commuter train to work in San Jose. This story and Brenda touched me deeply. I even had tears in my eyes at one point. A lump in my throat the rest of the time. I wish I could get my 20 year old daughter to listen to this story as I believe she would benefit from it.
Michael, as you know I love your podcast. but this one has been the best. you guys were very engaged, you let it flow, I cried, laughed, and took notes!!! how does that happen on one single podcast? bottle what you did here and repeat!!!!