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We spend too much time at work for it to be a miserable experience! Join JoDee Curtis and Susan White as they discuss human resources and leadership topics with a goal of creating work environments where people can find their joy. If you want to learn about important workplace topics with a splash of joy (and earn SHRM credit!) this is the show for you.
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In this episode, JoDee and Susan tackle a topic that touches almost every HR professional at some point in their career: burnout. Topics include: Common root causes of burnout in HR professionals How to prevent HR burnout Ideas for getting out of burnout In this episode's listener question, we're asked how to create balance with personal relationships in the workplace and keeping yourself "HR professional." In the news, we discuss Resume Now's AI Trends for 2026 Report. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-241-understanding-preventing-and-overcoming-burnout-in-hr/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-241-understanding-preventing-and-overcoming-burnout-in-hr/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on February 23, 2027) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan unpack the HR Business Partner role. Topics include: What an HR Business Partner is (and isn't) Common challenges for HRBPs Developing yourself as an HRBP Finding joy in being an HRBP In this episode's listener question, we're asked how to diplomatically inform an employee they are taking up too much space. In the news, more workers plan to hunt for a new job in early 2026, but competition is tight. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-240-hr-business-partners/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-240-hr-business-partners/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on February 9, 2027) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan attempt to demystify the Fair Labor Standards Act. Topics include: What the FLSA is Employment practices the FLSA does NOT regulate Classifying employees as exempt or non-exempt Common errors in calculating overtime Payroll-related records that must be kept Classifying workers as employees vs. independent contractors Child labor rules that are part of the FLSA Penalties for violating the FLSA Suggestions for making sure you stay in compliance In this episode's listener question, we're asked whether it's better to have a bereavement leave policy that offers different amounts of time off depending on the employee's relationship with the deceased or an open policy depending on the situation and the manager's discretion. In the news, The Academy to Innovate HR released a report on 11 HR trends for 2026. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-239-the-fair-labor-standards-act-flsa/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-239-the-fair-labor-standards-act-flsa/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on January 26, 2027) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
HR for Non-HR People

HR for Non-HR People

2026-01-1242:38

In this episode, JoDee and Susan break down the basics of what non-HR people should know about human resources. Topics include: Practical tips for hiring and firing How to manage performance Engaging and developing your team Staying legally compliant In this episode's listener question, we're asked for advice for someone who's trying to specialize in the HR field from being an HR generalist. In the news, we explore the trend of "conscious unbossing," where more employees are opting out of leadership roles. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-238-hr-for-non-hr-people/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-238-hr-for-non-hr-people/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on January 12, 2027) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss grief in the workplace with Dr. Jennifer Levin, an expert in traumatic grief and sudden loss. Topics include: Why Jennifer pursued a fellowship in Thanatology, the study of death, dying, and bereavement How that expertise informs Jennifer's work with organizations facing loss in the workplace What makes sudden or unexpected loss different from other types of loss The emotional and financial costs of sudden loss in the workplace What leaders can do to rebuild psychological safety for employees feeling unsafe and disoriented after traumatic loss How organizations, teams, and leaders can best support employees in the immediate aftermath of sudden loss Common missteps organizations make in these situations How organizations can emerge from loss stronger and more connected In this episode's listener question, we're asked about best practices for executive compensation programs that are balanced and drive the right priority and focus. In the news, we discuss a survey about American's lunchtime work habits. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-237-beyond-bereavement-leave/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-237-beyond-bereavement-leave/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on December 29, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan talk about assessing employees' performance and potential with author Sara Bovey Covey. Topics include: What a talent review is Why talent reviews matter The talent review mindset Critical elements for a solid talent review process Challenges leaders face during talent reviews In this episode's listener question, we're asked how HR professionals can grow their skills without leading their jobs. In the news, a Money.com article ranked the five best job search sites. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-236-talent-reviews/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-236-talent-reviews/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on December 15, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan reflect on their podcasting journey with their producer, Emily Miller. Topics include: Our most and least popular episodes Our favorite episodes The highs and lows of creating this podcast Whether we'd answer any listener questions differently now A circle back on some of our past "in the news" segments Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-235-celebrating-100k-downloads/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-235-celebrating-100k-downloads/ Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss the concept of Appreciative Inquiry with expert Diane Brown. Topics include: What Appreciative Inquiry is and why it matters How the nature of conversations shapes and influences our workplace culture, productivity, and engagement The four types of conversations Three fundamental practices that contribute to being a more appreciative leader In this episode's listener question, we're asked about whether employees working from home feel pressured to work longer hours - and whether that pressure comes from their employer or themselves. In the news, FlexJobs shared a list of five industries showing the fastest growth in hybrid job postings. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-234-appreciative-inquiry/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-234-appreciative-inquiry/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on November 17, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan share their tips for using LinkedIn. Topics include: How JoDee and Susan use LinkedIn Why LinkedIn matters Best practices for LinkedIn engagement A LinkedIn employee's top advice for users In this episode's listener question, we're asked how to ensure that employees are actually contributing and not just using AI to do their jobs. In the news, a new phenomenon called job hugging is gaining attention. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-233-getting-the-most-out-of-linkedin/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-233-getting-the-most-out-of-linkedin/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on November 3, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss emotions in the workplace with expert Tammy Smith. Topics include: Why emotion at work is a key emerging issue Why emotions matter in the workplace How emotions affect how we make decisions, communicate, and experience work How to build self-awareness and use emotions as signals Navigating difficult emotions in the workplace How to strengthen your emotional agility In this episode's listener mail, we're asked about ideas for making required learning fun. In the news, an NLRB ruling said off-duty Amazon employees can use parking lots for union activity. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-232-emotions-at-work/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-232-emotions-at-work/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on October 20, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
Surviving Layoffs

Surviving Layoffs

2025-10-0638:05

In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss getting through reductions in force. Topics include: Best practices for organizations who are shrinking their workforces Recommendations for the employees who remain with the company Advice for employees who are impacted by layoffs In this episode's listener mail, we're asked about team building recommendations for teams who aren't in the same location. In the news, we talk about avoiding toxic positivity. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-231-surviving-layoffs/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-231-surviving-layoffs/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on October 6, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss facilitation with experts Erin Fischer and Mike McRee. Topics include: The difference between presenting and facilitating The 70/30 rule Relationship currency and how it applies to effective facilitation How to engage adults who are used to boring PowerPoints The camp model Habits of the best facilitators In this episode's listener mail, we're asked about recommendations for employers that don't have the budget for childcare options. In the news, we discuss the 2024 book "The Generous Leader" by Joe Davis. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-230-how-to-be-an-engaging-facilitator/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-230-how-to-be-an-engaging-facilitator/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on September 22, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss older adults who are staying in or returning to the workforce. Topics include: The statistics on the silver workforce Why older adults are choosing to remain in or return to the workforce Intergenerational collaboration Ageism and bias The future of retirement The upsides of working later in life In this episode's listener question, we're asked about helping employees continue to apply concepts after a training ends. In the news, work culture in the US can vary regionally and by industry. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-229-the-silver-workforce/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-229-the-silver-workforce/ To get 0.25 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on September 8, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss romance in the workplace, with a special appearance from Susan's husband Bill White. Topics include: The statistics on workplace romance The risks workplace romances can create for organizations Policies to help avoid the pitfalls How Susan found love at work In this episode's listener question, we're asked about driving diversity in the current political climate. In the news, starting in 2026, the state of Washington will require unpaid leave and safety accommodations for victims of a hate crime. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-228-workplace-romance/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-228-workplace-romance/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on August 25, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss practical applications of artificial intelligence in the HR space with Josh Greenwald. Topics include: Common areas where AI is helping HR How AI is being leveraged in businesses today AI-enabled transformation Josh led at Elevance Health Evolving trends in HR service delivery Practical applications of AI in HR that have been done well Resistance to AI adoption Advice for listeners looking to build a future-ready talent strategy in the AI area In this episode's listener question, we're asked how we got started with the show and how we choose topics. In the news, younger generations are more likely to say they'd rather be unemployed than have a job that makes them unhappy. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-227-using-ai-in-hr/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-227-using-ai-in-hr/ To get 0.25 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on August 11, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss the upcoming anthology book, "Joy@Work: When Women Lead" with three of the authors - Gretchen Schott, Jill Lehman, and Sarah Turner. Topics include: Leading with love Taking a you-powered approach to your career Building your resilience skills In this episode's listener question, we're asked about the best training tools for the shift from in-person to remote training platforms. In the news, personal happiness is a major driver for a satisfying work life, not the other way around. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-226-joy-at-work/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-226-joy-at-work/ To get 0.75 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on July 28, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss the importance of business etiquette and cultural training with Pamela Eyring, president and owner of The Protocol School of Washington. Topics include: How skills learned from protocol and business etiquette are central to building relationships and advancing your career When lack of protocol leads to confusion, conflict, and missed opportunities The value of protocol in today's fast-paced, informal work culture How formalizing etiquette practices impacts culture, leadership, and external reputation In this episode's listener question, we're asked about the differences and similarities of in-house recruiters and recruiting staffing firms. In the news, we discuss the link between employee well-being and productivity. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-225-why-business-etiquette-matters/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-225-why-business-etiquette-matters/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on July 14, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
Gen Z at Work

Gen Z at Work

2025-06-3038:06

In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss Generation Z in the workplace with five Gen Z professionals: Anna Park, Kyle Curtis, Liam Hogan, Mary Gillett, and Ben Holdcraft. Topics include: What motivates our Gen Zers at work How these Gen Zers like to be communicated with The things that annoy these Gen Zers in the workplace What brings them joy at work What other generations can do to help Gen Z employees bring their best selves to work Surprises and takeaways we found in our conversations with Gen Zers In this episode's listener question, we're asked how to help a bad boss change their leadership style if they're not open to feedback or suggestions. In the news, a cocktail server is bringing a lawsuit against her former employer after they terminated her for not wearing high heels to work, despite her request for accommodation due to plantar fasciitis. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-224-gen-z-at-work/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-224-gen-z-at-work/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on June 30, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss the upcoming anthology book, "Joy@Work: When Women Lead" with three of the authors - MeChelle Callen, Kerrie Weinzapfel, and our own JoDee Curtis. Topics include: Eliminating "just" from your vocabulary Owning your superpowers Turning endings into positive steps forward In this episode's listener question, we're asked how in-house recruiters can be better partners to the business. In the news, fully remote workers are the most likely to be engaged at work, but less likely to be thriving in their lives. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-223-joy-at-work/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-223-joy-at-work/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on June 16, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
This week we're rerunning a 2023 episode on a topic we often get suggestions about: different generations in the workplace! In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss generational diversity at work with coach/speaker Lindsay Boccardo. Topics include: What's different with Gen Z compared to Millennials What employers are doing to continue to evolve with the needs of newer employees What organizations can do to retain more seasoned leaders How coaching skills help bring generationally diverse teams together How Lindsay's perspective has changed regarding generations at work, culture, and employee engagement What people do in this area that sucks the joy out of work Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-161-generational-diversity/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-161-generational-diversity/ Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 
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