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Kathy Sullivan - the first person to both walk in space and dive to the deepest point in the ocean - explores the human condition through the life journeys of her guests, people from all walks of life and levels of fame whose stories will inspire, inform and amuse you. Along the way Dr. Kathy Sullivan shares her own stories of lessons learned, obstacles overcome and crazy moments from her unique career in space, the deep sea, government and business. 
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This episode was recorded at the Inter Astra Retreat just outside Washington DC last November (2023) where I had the pleasure of sitting down with Lisa Marrocchino, the CEO of Proteus Ocean Group.  Starting in the world of Wall Street, Lisa has a profound passion for advancing our understanding of the ocean through innovative technologies.  Proteus, is being designed as the 'International Space Station of the Ocean,' aiming to revolutionize our approach to sustained underwater research. In this episode, Lisa shares the inspiring origins of Proteus, conceived by co-founder Fabien Cousteau, Grandson of Jacques Cousteau, and the ambitious goals they have for this pioneering project. Lisa details the technological and scientific advancements they hope to achieve and the broader implications for environmental research and space exploration analogs. In this episode, you'll discover: Challenges and triumphs in creating a state-of-the-art research facility beneath the sea. The role of Proteus in simulating space mission conditions and its implications for future space travel. Collaborative initiatives with global scientific communities aimed at fostering significant advancements in ocean research. Lisa’s aspirations for Proteus to leave a lasting impact by bridging the gap between oceanic exploration and space discovery. Quote:   "Proteus isn't just about pushing the boundaries of ocean research; it's about creating a legacy that ties the mysteries of the ocean with the vastness of space."  - Lisa Marrocchino Episode Links: Learn more about Proteus Ocean Group Connect with Lisa Marrocchino on LinkedIn Follow Inter Astra on LinkedIn Discover more about Inter Astra Credits:  Production by CxS Partners LTD  Executive Producer: Toby Goodman  Audio & Sound Design: Lee Turner  Artwork: Ryan Field Main interview recorded on location with Nomono Sound Capsule Explore more episodes at Kathy Sullivan Explores... https://kathysullivaneexplores.com/ Find even more podcasts on the Inter Astra Podcast Network HERE  
Your Business: In SpaceEnvironmental Intelligence in Space with Dr. Kathy SullivanDr. Kathy Sullivan is a distinguished scientist, astronaut, and explorer who has contributed to our understanding of space and the Earth’s oceans. As the first American woman to walk in space and a veteran of three NASA space shuttle missions, Dr. Sullivan has reached both the heights of outer space and the depths of our oceans. As an accomplished geologist, she has explored the complexities of marine geology and geophysics, and her tenure as the head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) solidified her reputation as a trailblazer in environmental intelligence. Her profound experience offers invaluable insights into our planet's life support systems — the oceans, the atmosphere, and the interconnected environments that sustain us.In this episode, Dr. Sullivan draws parallels between the life support systems of spacecraft and our own planet, illustrating the critical importance of environmental stewardship. With her unique vantage points from space and deep below the sea, she sheds light on the environmental challenges we face and the innovative technologies helping us to understand the roles we can play to help protect our home planet.In this episode you'll discover:• The vital role environmental intelligence from space plays in daily life, from weather forecasting to agricultural planning. • How satellites have transformed from mere storm spotters to advanced observers, capable of intricate environmental assessments. • The importance of understanding and maintaining the life support systems of our 'spaceship' Earth, paralleling those in spacecraft. • Dr. Sullivan’s perspective on the potential environmental impact of rocket launches and the increasing frequency of space travel. • The need for continuous innovation and research to advance our knowledge of Earth and space environments. • Insights into fostering a new generation of scientists, engineers, and explorers to lead future environmental intelligence efforts.Quote:"The only thing we actually do all by ourselves is have the start of a good idea. Everything beyond that requires connecting that idea with other people." - Dr. Kathy SullivanEpisode Links:Check out Kathy’s websiteListen to over 100 episodes of Kathy’s Podcast ‘Kathy Sullivan Explores…’ Now part of the Inter Astra Podcast Network!Follow Kathy on LinkedInNASANOAACredits:Production by CxS Partners LTDExecutive Producer: Toby GoodmanAudio & Sound Design: Lee TurnerArtwork: Ryan FieldJoin the #1 community for equitable access to the business of space:https://interastra.space/
Farewell for Now

Farewell for Now

2023-08-0309:23

 Dear Explorer, On June 10, 2021, I launched the Kathy Sullivan Explores podcast. Many of us were under some form of a lockdown back then, and the podcast has helped me connect in ways that were previously impossible to imagine. Through our journey together, we’ve explored science, art, space, and memorable moments in my life all while speaking to brilliant guests. It has truly been an incredible privilege to share stories, insights, and inspiring conversations with you all. In this episode, I want to express my deepest gratitude to you all for joining me on this remarkable journey of exploration via podcast. I also outline the different episode categories you can continue exploring on the podcast website and explain how you can stay connected and be the first to get updates on my future projects and endeavors. “This farewell doesn’t have to be the end of our journey together. Continue on, Explorer, learning and sharing in the spirit of curiosity, adventure, and discovery.” - Kathy Sullivan This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores: ●     Charlie Bolden’s pathway to space and other remarkable episodes in the “Space” category●     Conversations with creatives and how they forged artistic careers●     Exploring the sea and other oceanic gems from Helen Scales, Tim McDonald, Victor Viscovo, and others●     Career and leadership insights from Glen Maroney and Yvette McGee Brown●     Conversations on exploring the world with Elizabeth McCormick, Jeffrey Kingsley, and Alastair Humphreys●     Memorable moments from my life—from wearing a baked potato to presenting an Oscar to George Lucas from space Our Favorite Quotes: ●     “From business leaders, writers, artists, fellow explorers, scientists, divers, and astronauts, their wisdom and experiences have left an indelible mark on our collective exploration.” - Kathy Sullivan●     “Astronauts stand on the shoulders of many hundreds of other space professionals.” - Kathy Sullivan Explore the podcast by theme: ●     Space●     Creativity●     Sea●     Memorable Moments●     Career and Leadership●     Places Spaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean. I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action. In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on...
 Jane Alexander is an actress, author, and former Chairperson of the National Endowment of the Arts. In 1969, Jane received a Tony Award for her performance as Eleanor Bachman in the Broadway production of The Great White Hope. Jane received her first Emmy nomination for her role as Eleanor Roosevelt in Eleanor and Franklin. Over her career, she has received two Primetime Emmy Awards—as well as nominations for eight Tony Awards, four Academy Awards, and three Golden Globe Awards—and was inducted into the American Theater Hall of Fame in 1994. Today, Jane is involved in conservation efforts and has served on the boards of the Wildlife Conservation Society, the National Audubon Society, and Project Greenhope, among others. She is the author of Wild Things, Wild Places and Command Performance. Today, you’ll hear Jane discuss how she grew up loving the beauty of the land while living in Massachusetts. She shares how watching a ballet performance for the first time sparked her love for theater and the performing arts. She outlines her process for inhabiting a character or a role and describes how she studied her role as Eleanor Roosevelt in Eleanor and Franklin. Jane also highlights what it’s like to be an understudy, details her experience serving as the chairperson of the National Endowment of the Arts, and offers advice to young people about pursuing their passion. “The whole business of exploration—which caught me as a child in the outside world, exploring the sunken garden—transitioned to the exploration of the mind and the human body in acting.” - Jane AlexanderThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Jane’s background and early years in Massachusetts●     How Jane’s parents reacted to her pursuit of theater as a career●     Her studies in mathematics and computer programming●     Her time at the University of Edinburgh and performances as Ophelia in Hamlet and as Nora in The Plough and the Stars●     What it was like to hang out with Dudley Moore and John Gleeson as university students●     Jane’s experience as an understudy and what stand-ins do when they’re not performing●     Her first leading roles and focus on the classics●     Jane’s process for inhabiting a role or character●     Why Jane declined to be part of The Actors Studio●     How Jane played Eleanor Roosevelt in Eleanor and Franklin ●     Handling negative receptions of performances●     Jane’s service as the chairperson of the National Endowment of the Arts●     Today’s public support for the arts and Jane’s work in conservationOur Favorite Quotes: ●     “Art is part of everybody’s persona and privilege.” - Jane Alexander●     “We are put on this Earth to witness and experience all the joy that we can give to each other—that includes the things that grow and live.” - Jane Alexander Connect with Jane Alexander: ●     Jane Alexander Website●     Book: Command Performance: An Actress In The Theater Of Politics●     Book: Wild Things, Wild Places: Adventurous Tales of Wildlife and Conservation on Planet Earth●     Jane Alexander on Twitterp...
Jim Clash is an American participatory adventure and business journalist, author, and fellow and director of Explorers Club. Since joining Forbes as a staff writer in 1993, Jim has skied to the South Pole, flown in a MiG-25 at Mach 2.6 to the edge of space, and climbed the Matterhorn. His other adventures include driving the Bugatti Veyron at its top speed of 253 miles per hour and, most recently, flying with the US Navy Blue Angels in their F-18 fighters. He is the author of Forbes to the Limits and The Right Stuff. Jim holds a Master of Business Administration degree from Columbia University and a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Maryland. Today, you’ll hear Jim describe his life as a participatory adventurer and journalist. He recounts his adventurous, geeky childhood building his own radios and antenna and why he switched his major from Physics to English while studying at the University of Maryland. He explains why he decided to return to journalism after a career in the advertising industry. He discusses his ventures to the peaks of Mount Kilimanjaro and Everest and his journey to the North Pole. You’ll also learn about the common characteristics among the successful and great people he has interviewed and gain insight from his life lessons. “Journalism is about truth and advertising is like a pyramid—you take a little point and pile layers and layers on it until you get an obfuscation of truth. In journalism, you narrow it to the point, which is truth.” - Jim ClashThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Jim’s background, fascinating childhood, and life in Japan●     His stint in advertising and being a drummer for a rock band●     Uncovering truth and how Jim realized that journalism was his life’s calling●     The Rat Experiment, climbing the Matterhorn and Kilimanjaro, and Jim’s passion for mountain climbing●     The Hillary Step traffic jam on Mount Everest●     Skiing to the South Pole and other adventures in Jim’s life as a participatory adventurer and writer●     How Jim procures his adventure gigs●     The common characteristics of extraordinary people●     Understanding the difference between real and perceived risk●     Resisting peer pressure and other life lessonsResources Mentioned:●     Book: Seven Summits by Dick Bass, Frank Wells, and Rick RidgewayOur Favorite Quotes:●     “Extraordinary people understand that there’s a difference between real and perceived risk.” - Jim Clash●     “If you think differently, don’t go along with the crowd. Don’t always bow to peer pressure—do what you think is right. - Jim Clash Connect with Jim Clash:●     Jim Clash on LinkedIn●     Jim Clash on Instagram●     Jim Clash on YouTube●     Jim Clash on TwitterSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity...
Linda Kass is the acclaimed author of Tasa’s Song (2016) and A Ritchie Boy (2020). Her latest book, Bessie—a fictional portrait of Miss America 1945, Bess Myerson—will be released in September 2023. She is also the founder and owner of Gramercy Books, an independent bookstore in Columbus, Ohio. Trained as a journalist, Linda began her career as a magazine reporter and correspondent for regional and national publications such as Columbus Monthly, TIME, and The Detroit Free Press. Linda is known for her advocacy in education, literacy, and the arts and has served in leadership roles on the boards of Bexley Schools, Columbus Symphony Orchestra, and The Ohio State University among many others. She graduated from the University of Pennsylvania and holds a Master’s in Journalism from The Ohio State University. Today, you’ll hear Linda reveal her life's remarkable twists and turns through stints working in medicine, education, journalism, and freelance writing. She describes how a family history writing project and a chance meeting during an outing with her book club moved her to become a novelist. She explains what makes Columbus, Ohio a unique place to be in. You’ll also hear about the ultimate value of reading and writing and why Linda was compelled to write her most recent book about the first Jewish Miss America, Bess Myerson. “Inhabit the character. Imagine what they would think, feel, and do in a scene—how they would relate to other circumstances. Walk in their shoes. That becomes the inventiveness on the page of fiction, but then it’s grounded in all of that authentic, true history underneath it.” - Linda Kass This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     The young Linda Kass and her life growing up in central Ohio●     Linda’s time at Eastmoor High School and how it led her to become a journalist●     Her work as a physical therapist while studying journalism in graduate school●     The genesis of Linda’s life as a writer, teacher, and freelancer●     What brought Linda back to Columbus after living and working in Detroit●     How Columbus has changed since the late 80s●     The creative writing project that began Linda’s career as a historical novelist●     What creative nonfiction is and how it helped Linda tell her parents’ stories●     Poland and modern-day Ukraine in the context of World War II●     How a Catholic family helped Linda’s mother and her family during World War II●     The research and writing process involved in creating Tasa’s Song●     The art of inhabiting a character while writing●     What led Linda to write her book on Bessy Myerson●     The value of reading and writingResources Mentioned:●     Book: The Bright Forever: A Novel by Lee MartinOur Favorite Quotes:●     “Read, because when you enjoy that experience you want to read more. When you read, you learn more, and when you learn you can be an empathetic human being that understands yourself and the world better.” - Linda Kass●     “To tell a real human story is more treatful and effective than coming up with just a fact-by-fact biography.” - Linda Kass Connect with Linda Kass:●     Linda Kass Website●     Gramercy Books●     Book: Bessie●     
 John Dabiri is a MacArthur Fellow and Centennial Chair Professor at the California Institute of Technology. John’s research focuses on unsteady fluid mechanics and flow physics, with particular emphasis on topics relevant to biology, energy, and the environment. While serving as a Professor of Aeronautics and Bioengineering at Caltech from 2005 to 2015, John was also the Director of the Center for Bioinspired Wind Energy, Chair of the Faculty, and Dean of Students. From 2015 to 2019, he served as a Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering and Mechanical Engineering at Stanford University. He graduated summa cum laude from Princeton University in 2001 with a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering and received his Master of Science in Aeronautics from Caltech, where he also earned his Ph.D. in Bioengineering with a minor in Aeronautics. In addition to his work at Caltech, John serves on President Biden's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, among other advisory boards. Today, you’ll hear John and I explore what nature can teach us about engineering systems, heart health, and optimizing wind farms. He describes his life growing up in Toledo, how a summer internship introduced him to the world of jellyfish, and how studying jellyfish quickly morphed into the focus of his life’s work. He recounts stories from his stint as a technical consultant for Nope (2022) and shares his thoughts on the sitcom, The Big Bang Theory, and its portrayal of academic life at Caltech. You’ll also gain insight into solving the diversity problem in physics and engineering and why tapping the curiosity of young minds can inspire more students to pursue STEM. “Curiosity is a unique lens by which we can explore the world around us, and the outcomes from that would be the technologies that could revolutionize climate, space, and medicine.” - John DabiriThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     John’s background and family history●     How John’s parents navigated their identity and race in America●     Carrying forward Nigerian traditions●     John’s high school experience and why he chose Mechanical Engineering for his college path●     How he transitioned from an undergraduate degree in Mechanical engineering to a doctoral in Bioengineering with a minor in Aerodynamics●     How John wound up studying jellyfish after pursuing an undergraduate degree in Mechanical Engineering●     Why mentors play an important role in a PhD student’s life●     What jellyfish can teach us about submarines, heart health, and wind farms●     What it’s like to receive the prestigious MacArthur Fellowship award●     Why Dr. Jellyfish can’t swim●     The Big Bang Theory’s portrayal of academic life at Caltech●     Working with Jordan Peele for the 2022 movie, Nope●     Solving the diversity problem in physics and engineering●     How we can inspire more young people to join STEMOur Favorite Quotes: ●     “The application of tech is a nice motivation, but we can tap into the curiosity of a five-year-old to draw them into science, even if there’s no immediate application.” - John Dabiri●     “I fell in love with taking the same mindset I used in taking apart video games and cars into understanding how biological systems work—how these very simple bags of water in a jellyfish can swim through the ocean.” - John Dabiri Connect with John Dabiri:●     Dabiri Lab●     John Dabiri on LinkedIn●     Email:...
Celestial Visions

Celestial Visions

2023-06-2907:14

 You’ve probably heard or read something about the “new space age” unfolding around us. While this new era of space exploration is raising important questions—like who sets the rules and who owns what—it’s also inspiring grand visions of the future. I don’t have a crystal ball or some super secret source of insider intelligence, but it’s clear that two grand visions are strongly influencing a lot of the enterprises involved in the new space age: one of preserving humanity and the world, and one of escaping it all. In this episode, I explore two of the leading visions emerging at the dawn of the new space age. You’ll hear about Jeff Bezos’ purpose for Blue Origin and his plan to build space stations where people can live and work. I share Elon Musk’s mission to colonize Mars and discuss what “lifeboat syndrome” is. You’ll also learn how the work of philanthropists started aviation and spaceflight and gain insight into the role of ordinary people like you and me in the future of the new space age. “Where it all goes from here will be up to people like you and me and the kids and grandkids of our lives. They will inherit the lessons and building blocks from these initial lessons and have the opportunity to write an exciting new chapter in spaceflight and the future of humanity and our planet.” - Kathy SullivanThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     The dawn of the new space age●     Jeff Bezos and Blue Origin’s vision for the future of outer space●     Elon Musk and his plans to colonize Mars●     The lifeboat syndrome●     How philanthropy drove the inception of aviation and spaceflightResources Mentioned:●     Book: The High Frontier: Human Colonies In Space by Gerard K. O'NeillOur Favorite Quotes: ●     “Stephen Hawking famously once said that humanity will not endure another thousand years unless it becomes a multi-planet species.” - Kathy Sullivan●     “It was the vision and private capital of philanthropists like Samuel Langley and Robert Goddard and the people they could draw to their cause that allowed everyone to envision what aviation and spaceflight could become.” - Kathy Sullivan Related Episode: ●     108 | The New Wild WestSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!a...
 Christopher A. Scholin is the President and CEO of the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI) and has been a driving force behind groundbreaking research since 2009. He started his professional journey as a research assistant professor at the University of South Carolina at Columbia. Driven by a passion for merging molecular biology and ecology, Chris joined the esteemed Massachusetts Institute of Technology – Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (MIT/WHOI) Joint Program in Biological Oceanography. In 2021, he was honored with the Lockheed Martin Award for Ocean Science and Engineering from the Marine Technology Society. Chris holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Biology with Highest Honors from the University of California, Santa Barbara and a Master of Business Administration degree in Molecular Biology and Immunology from Duke University. Chris continues to engage in research projects and maintains an impressive scientific portfolio. Today, you’ll hear Chris and I discuss his childhood fascination with the ocean and how it led him to pursue a career in oceanography. He explains how he accidentally became the CEO of MBARI and delves into his contributions to the development of advanced oceanic technology. He describes his early experiences with scuba diving, his interest in laboratory science and technology, and how he combined these interests to pursue a career in oceanography. He recounts his unconventional path into oceanography and discusses his exposure to molecular biology and biotech and how he saw these fields as a way to combine his passion for oceanography and technology. You’ll also learn about the challenges of working in ocean science and the importance of taking risks and being willing to make mistakes. "Sometimes you gotta follow your heart. If it's something you wanna do, give it a try." - Chris ScholinThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Chris’s childhood fascination with the ocean●     Learning to scuba dive in St. Louis, Michigan●     How a librarian changed the course of Chris’s career●     How Chris learned to follow his heart ●     Applying molecular biology and biotech to oceanography●     What algae blooms can teach us ●     How to differentiate between similar-looking organisms ●     The legacy of David Packard on MBARI●     The upside of taking risks ●     How mistakes can lead to important discoveries●     The challenges of overseeing senior scientistsOur Favorite Quotes:●     “Only about 30% of the sea floor of the entire earth has been mapped in any detail.” - Chris Scholin●     “The tide of popular opinion about whether it was even, even feasible was really against me. I just had to stand my ground and keep trying my best and proving it could work.” - Chris Scholin Connect with Chris Scholin:●     Chris Sholin Website●     Chris Scholin on LinkedIn●     MBARI on LinkedInSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my...
 Katy Psenicka is the Chief Choreographer and Chief Operations Officer of Shadowbox Live, America’s largest resident ensemble theater company based in Columbus, Ohio. Since joining Shadowbox Live in 1994, Katy has made choreography the anchor of her professional career, cultivating over 600 character-driven performing art pieces that tell stories through contemporary dance. A versatile performer herself, Katy has also been featured in several lead and supporting roles. Her most recent work includes the conceptualization and choreography of Madness and Lust and Broken Whispers, both of which won The Columbus Dispatch’s Best Show of 2016 award. Katy earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Communication Management from The University of Dayton. Today, you’ll hear Katy outline her creative processes for choreographing dances and creating shows. She describes what she was like as a child and explains how being situationally aware and energetic shaped her path toward becoming an artist. You’ll learn about how, between 4th and 9th grade, she put on a show in her family’s garage every summer. She also shares her ideas on storytelling and offers her advice to young, budding artists who are unsure of their journey. “Don’t keep your light inside—let it shine. Let yourself have the freedom to share all your amazing gifts to the world. The world needs you, your skill, and your gifts.” - Katy PsenickaThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Katy’s background and childhood in Cleveland, Ohio●     How Katy created and held shows in her family’s garage as a child●     Her high school experience and how her teachers inspired her●     How studying Communication at The University of Dayton gave Katy a glimpse into her life path●     The process of choreographing a dance and the interplay of music and motions●     How Katy and the Shadowbox Live team produced a show based on the story of Bonnie and Clyde●     Katy’s “moments” worksheet and show ideas currently simmering in her mind●     Current and future Shadowbox Live showsOur Favorite Quotes: ●     “Whatever it is you’re good at is applicable to every single thing you do in life. You have to put a filter on your lens and take what you know and apply it.” - Katy Psenicka●     “The road will reveal itself to you. You don’t need to stress about where it’s going. Just start working.” - Katy Psenicka Connect with Katy Psenicka:●     Shadowbox Live●     Shadowbox Live on LinkedIn●     Shadowbox Live on Instagram●     Shadowbox Live on Facebook●     Shadowbox Live on TikTok●     Katy Psenicka on LinkedInSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right
Charles Justiz, Ph.D., is a pilot, risk & safety consultant, and author of the sci-fi thriller, Specific Impulse. He is the founder and Managing Director of JFA Inc. and formerly served as the Chief of Aviation Safety at the NASA Johnson Space Center, where he established a crew resource management program, a safety management system, and a just culture approach. All of which have become industry standards.During his 30-year-long career at NASA, Charlie has flown over 16,000 flight hours in over 100 different types of aircraft, chased Space Shuttles returning from orbit, trained every astronaut who has piloted and landed a Space Shuttle and ferried numerous Space Shuttles across the United States using a modified Boeing 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft. Charlie joins me today to describe how he fell in love with flying and aviation in his early teens and shares how he became a pilot after studying Aerospace Engineering at the Air Force Academy. We talk about his path to becoming a NASA test pilot, and he describes how he became involved in music and theater production later in life and how writing Specific Impulse opened his unexpected artistic side. Charlie also advises making mistakes in one’s career and shares his thoughts on following a vision and pursuing seemingly unrelated career paths.“There is no box; you define what the boundaries are.” - Charlie JustizThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Charlie’s childhood from Havana to Miami●     Where Charlie’s early love for flying and aviation came from●     The many Cuban revolutions●     Charlie’s experience learning about Spanish literature in high school●     Charlie’s road to the Air Force Academy and how he survived his freshman year●     How Charlie became an Air Force pilot●     Celestial navigation in the space age●     Flying exotic airplanes at NASA and training to ferry Space Shuttles with the 747●     Why the 747 is a pilot’s dream●     Charlie’s work as a risk & safety consultant●     How Charlie became involved in music and theater production●     What it means to be a theater producer●     Charlie’s thoughts on taking seemingly unrelated career paths●     Charlie’s next adventure in lifeOur Favorite Quotes:●     “You may be wrong, and that’s okay. I’ve failed a dozen times in my career, trying to do stuff that was wrong, but it only made me smarter on the things that I did next.” - Charlie Justiz●     “All knowledge is valuable and important.” - Charlie Justiz Connect with Charlie Justiz:●     Charlie Justiz on LinkedIn●     Book: Specific ImpulseSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have...
Glen Moroney is an entrepreneur and the owner, operator, and CEO of Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours. At its inception in 1986, Scenic began offering tours to the Great Ocean Road in Warrnambool, Australia, and expanded into providing extensive land journeys throughout Australia and New Zealand. Under Glen’s leadership, Scenic has grown into a global cruise line that offers hundreds of extended touring programs to exotic, domestic, and international destinations. Scenic has also built the Scenic Eclipse, the world’s first discovery yacht that allows guests to experience the magnificence of Antarctica like never before. Today, you’ll hear about Glen’s journey from being a college dropout and bus tour operator to being the CEO of a shipbuilding company and owner of 22 luxury vessels. He explains how he turned around a small hotel in Warrnambool without a formal education in the tourism industry. He describes the beauty of Warrnambool and how the region brought out the traveler in him. He discusses the beginnings of Scenic and his forays into river cruising and shipbuilding. You’ll also hear about his forecast for the expedition cruising market and gain insight into the complexity and wonder of ships and shipbuilding. “We climbed up a steep glacier that went up from sea level to over 2,000 meters with ice caps that went as far as the eye could see. There’s no way, unless you’re an explorer, that you’re going to see that in any cruise ship.” - Glen MoroneyThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Glen Moroney’s youth and how he became a shipbuilder and the admiral of 22 river cruisers●     Why Glen disliked his time at university and eventually dropped out●     His first dive into business and entrepreneurship●     The first time Glen got bitten by the travel bug●     How Glen started selling tours without a formal education in the tourism industry●     The Free Independent Traveler Public Tours and the beginnings of Scenic●     How Glen became involved with river cruising●     Taking “no” for an answer and taking risks during uncertain times●     Glen’s baptism of fire into shipbuilding●     Listening to feedback and how Glen brings the vision of a ship to life●     Scenic’s audience model and expert expedition team●     Scenic’s submersibles and helicopter flights in Reykjavik●     The future of expedition cruising●     How the pandemic has changed people’s perception of cruising●     The complexity and wonder of ships and shipbuildingOur Favorite Quotes: ●     “When the ship sails the first time, it can get quite emotional. When you get a ship like this into service, you get a huge sense of relief. There’s some joy there, but the overwhelming feeling is relief.” - Glen Moroney●     “You look at an office building and you’d think it’s a complex build, but it’s nothing compared to a ship.” - Glen Moroney Connect with Glen Moroney:●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on LinkedIn●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Instagram●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Facebook●     Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on TwitterSpaceship Not Requiredp...
Being in the Moment

Being in the Moment

2023-05-2508:38

 When was the last time you watched people at a sporting event, ceremony, or concert—having the experience of a lifetime, yet mainly holding their phones or cameras up to film it all? It’s as if capturing pictures and videos is more valuable or important than the experience itself, and so they live everything through their camera screens. While certain moments in our lives prompt us to reach for our phones or cameras to capture that unfolding event and immortalize it into a visual memory, doing so comes with a cost. It takes us out of the actual moments—out of fully living the experience. In this episode, you’ll hear about the value of fully immersing yourself in the present. I share what I learned from reading The Inner Game of Tennis and from playing a detective video game. I also reflect on returning to the curiosities of our eight-year-old selves and how our lives might be enriched more by being fully in the moment. “Be here, now. Put your phone down and take all your surroundings in through every one of your senses. How richer will your life be if you can resist the screen and be fully in the moment?” - Kathy SullivanThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Living life through screens●     Why performing theater companies ask the audience not to film or record shows●     Going back to our eight-year-old selves●     The challenge to explore with a sense of play●     The sense of safety and security in reminiscing bygone days●     How I learned to see without judgment by playing a video gameResources Mentioned:●     Book: The Inner Game of Tennis: The Classic Guide to the Mental Side of Peak Performance by W. Timothy GallweyOur Favorite Quotes:●     “Explore with a sense of play—of freedom. Be your eight-year-old self again, shut off the self-talk, and just be. Just do.” - Kathy Sullivan●     “Be here, now—not in the past, not in the future, but genuinely interested in and absorbing where you are now, who you’re with, and taking it all in without an opinion.” - Kathy SullivanSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!Spotify I Stitcher I a...
 Susan Rainwater is the former Chief of the EVA, Robotics, and Crew Systems Operations Division at NASA and a linchpin in the Hubble Space Telescope repair mission. After graduating from Georgia Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Industrial Engineering degree, Sue served at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in the late 1980s. She then came to the Johnson Space Center in Houston to work with the Hubble Space Telescope under the Mission Operations Directorate prior to the STS-31 deployment mission. Sue later played such a pivotal role in the first Hubble servicing mission that they brought two ladders into mission control when the time came to hang the crew plaque at the end of the mission. It was the first, and possibly only, time that the two co-leaders of the spacewalking team hung the plaque together—one of the highest honors in NASA flight control. Today, you’ll hear Sue describe her memories of being a bookish kid from Michigan studying in the United Kingdom and the culture shock she experienced upon returning to the United States. She explains how hands-on building projects from her father and her move to the South to study became the first steps in her journey to NASA. Sue also highlights the Herculean effort around Hubble’s first servicing mission and describes how visits to Home Depot contributed to the building and repairing success of the Hubble Space Telescope. “We had the greatest jobs. We got to work with brilliant people and brilliant minds. We were challenged every day, and every day was different.” - Sue RainwaterThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Sue’s family background and early childhood in Michigan●     Her life in high school and path to Georgia Tech●     How her father influenced her interest in engineering●     Sue’s first role and responsibility at NASA●     The NASA Marshall Space Flight Center and what it was known for●     The Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory and Sue’s experience in water tank simulators●     What it was like to completely imagine a tool that did not exist before●     Sue’s first visits to the Hubble Space Telescope and cranking its solar arrays●     Her experience working as a flight controller at the Johnson Space Center’s mission control●     What it takes to calm the engineer sitting at a console in mission control●     Sue’s best memories from her time in Houston and life after NASAOur Favorite Quotes:●     “Start with something you’re familiar with, adapt it, then modify it.” - Sue Rainwater●     “When you go out there and see the real vehicle, with all the real electrical cables and multi-layer insulation in place, you get a full appreciation of it and think that this is even more complex than you realize.” - Sue Rainwater Connect with Sue Rainwater:●     Sue Rainwater on LinkedInSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.Visit my website at
The Small Self Effect

The Small Self Effect

2023-05-1107:43

 “Awesome” is used so often these days—at least in the US—that it has almost lost its meaning. It seems that it hardly has a bigger impact than saying “Oh, that’s nice.” But, for astronauts, the truly awesome experience of seeing the Earth from space with our own eyes is transformative—an experience that catalyzes the profound shift in the way we think about ourselves, our lives, and our home planet Earth. In 1987, Frank White coined the term “overview effect” to describe this experience. But there’s something with the “overview” label that never sat well with me and I couldn’t point out why—until an article titled The ‘Small Self’ Effect and the research it referred to caught my attention. In this episode, you’ll learn about the small self effect and how the experience of looking at Earth from orbit profoundly transforms astronauts. I outline the history of Frank White’s overview effect. I describe how awe triggered the small self in me while I was in space. I also discuss how psychologists define awe and underscore how being awestruck can elicit feelings of belonging and hope that are critical to forming the cooperation and collaboration needed to form and sustain social groups—from families and communities to countries and humankind. “‘Feeling small, blissfully overwhelmed, more connected to others, and filled with the desire to do good towards others are the common themes in every astronaut’s account of their experience of looking at the Earth from orbit.” - Kathy SullivanThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     What “awesome” means to astronauts●     Frank White’s Overview Effect●     What “awe” means to psychologists●     The small self effect and how awe may have a vital social functionResources Mentioned:●     The Atlantic | The ‘Small Self’ Effect by Shannon Stirone●     Awe, the Small Self, and Prosocial BehaviorOur Favorite Quotes:●     “The vast panorama out my window triggered a feeling of awe unlike any I have ever known. That’s what shrunk my sense of self and heightened my awareness about our collective identity and fate and made me want to use my experience for good.” - Kathy Sullivan●     “Be filled with that blissful awe. Shift with the small self, understand our shared fate, and care more deeply about each other.” - Kathy SullivanSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!
Margot Lee Shetterly is a non-fiction writer. Her book, Hidden Figures: The American Dream and the Untold Story of the Black Women Who Helped Win the Space Race, tells the story of African-American women mathematicians who helped provide NASA with the raw computing power it needed to dominate the heavens. After a career in investment banking and media, Margot moved to Mexico with her husband and founded Inside Mexico, an English-language magazine, while writing Hidden Figures. In addition to her work as an author, Margot is the founder of The Human Computer Project, an endeavor dedicated to recovering the names and accomplishments of all of the women who worked as computers, mathematicians, scientists and engineers at NACA and NASA from the 1930s through the 1980s.Today, you’ll hear about Margot’s journey in writing Hidden Figures. She describes her childhood in Hampton, Virginia, growing up surrounded by engineers and scientists and shares her experience witnessing the 9/11 attacks while living in New York City. She explains how she happened upon the book idea and how her awareness of the women in Hidden Figures—Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan, and Mary Jackson—came to the fore. She discusses the importance of having an objective view from the outside and how living in Mexico allowed her to write Hidden Figures. You’ll also gain insight on Margot’s experiences writing Hidden Figures—from interviewing Katherine Johnson to getting the book published—and hear her advice for young people at the early stages of their careers.“The advances that allow us to get on an airplane—without thinking that it’ll take off, fly, and land safely—happened because these women and their colleagues were doing the numbers for decades.” - Margot Lee ShetterlyThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:   •   Margot’s background and life growing up in Hampton, Virginia   •   Her interest in business at a young age and path to investment banking   •   A brief history of NASA   •   Margot’s interest in business at a young age and her path to investment banking   •   Her life in New York and her experience in foreign exchange trading, Meryll Lynch, and start-ups   •   Her adventures founding a magazine in Mexico with her husband   •   How living in Mexico allowed Margot the space to write Hidden Figures   •   What inspired the idea behind Hidden Figures and how Margot began writing the story   •   How interviewing mathematician Katherine Johnson led Margot to Dorothy Vaughan, Mary Jackson, and the other Black computers at NASA’s West Area   •   How long it took Margot to finish writing Hidden Figures   •   The two kinds of writers and why Margot is a combination of both   •   Historical accuracy of the film Hidden Figures and how similar it is to Margot’s book   •   The process of creating a book proposal and why it’s similar to forming a business plan   •   What Margot wanted to show through her book Hidden Figures   •   Margot’s favorite travel destinations and travel bucket list   •   Her current book project and the joys of writing Hidden FiguresResources Mentioned:   •   NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project   •   NASA History Division - Oral History   •   Book: They Made America: From the Steam Engine to the Search Engine: Two Centuries of Innovators by Harold EvansOur Favorite Quotes:   •   “The thing about a book proposal is that it’s a business plan. You have a book idea, find a publisher to take it and sell it to them, explain why people will read it, and have a sample of the product.” - Margot Lee Shetterly   •   “Make failure your friend, especially when you’re young and ambitious. There’s a stigma that’s still attached to...
The New Wild West

The New Wild West

2023-04-2708:37

There’s a ton of content in the media about what some people are calling the “new space age”: the era in which space is becoming more democratized—and more commercialized. At a minimum, media coverage about this new space age has been about Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and space tourism. While it’s clearly an exciting time to be in the business of space or to start a career in the space sector, peeling back all that fancy, sizzly coverage reveals a ton of unresolved questions you may not be hearing about unless you’re a true space geek. There are so many issues around it that we might as well just call the new space age the “New Wild West.”In this episode, I explore a few of the many issues surrounding the new space age. I explain what mega constellations are and how artificial satellites are impacting the work of grand-based astronomers. I also share my hopes for the future and underscore why we all need to come together as we enter this new space age.“My biggest hopes are that the countries and the companies will consider more than just short-term financial rewards; that they give some thought to not just what can be gained by their efforts, but also what might be lost if they don’t take care.” - Kathy SullivanThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:   •   The number of active satellites orbiting the Earth   •   The lack of orbital traffic management schemes and space treaties   •   Issues around mining the moon and asteroids   •   NASA’s Artemis Accords   •   My hopes for the future of the new space ageOur Favorite Quotes:   •   “There’s a lot of money and effort pouring into these new space possibilities, but everyone’s in an ‘act now, think later’ mode, as is often true when a bright new prospect is glimpsed.” - Kathy Sullivan   •   “My highest hope is that the sentiment that was written on the Apollo 11 module will be fulfilled in this new era—that plaque read: ‘We came in peace for all mankind.’” - Kathy SullivanSpaceship Not RequiredI’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!Spotify I Stitcher I Apple Podcasts I iHeart Radio I TuneIn I Google I Amazon Music.
Victor Vescovo is a private equity investor, retired naval officer, undersea explorer, and space tourist. He is the founder, Chief Executive, and Chief Submersible Pilot at Caladan Oceanic, a private marine research organization. As an adventurer, Victor has reached the North and South Poles, climbed the Seven Summits, and visited the deepest points of all the Earth’s oceans during the Five Deeps Expedition of 2018-2019. In 2022, Victor flew to space as a space tourist aboard New Shepard—a reusable suborbital launch vehicle developed by Blue Origin—as part of the Blue Origin NS-21 mission, and was afterward regarded by Forbes as the “First to Climb Everest, Visit Ocean’s Deepest Depth, and Fly to the Final Frontier.” Victor joins me today to share his experience flying to space onboard New Shepard. He describes what it was like to go beyond Mach 3 and explains why it’s important not to focus on the interiors of the rocket capsule upon reaching space. He discusses his childhood dream to become an astronaut and shares his thoughts on finding one’s life path. Victor also highlights the value of being a good person and offers advice to young people dreaming of flying to space. “When people ask what’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen, I have to admit, looking down from space, that it’s the curvature of the Earth with the atmosphere. Nothing beats down that experience.” - Victor VescovoThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     What made Victor want to go to space●     The importance of personal connection and being a good person●     How his sense of space adventure has evolved in his adult years●     The Corn Ranch Launch Site at Van Horn, Texas●     The training and psychological-medical screening involved to become part of the NS-21 mission●     How Blue Origin tries to craft camaraderie and diversity●     The days leading to the flight of New Shepard●     Why Blue Origin was strict on bringing items aboard New Shepard●     Weight, propulsion, gravity, and safety●     The overview effect and how the NS-21 mission impacted Victor’s life●     The descent of New ShepardOur Favorite Quotes:●     “I thought it would be like going really high up on a plane, but no, this was materially different. The Earth was below you, and there was a thin layer of atmosphere that you could see; there’s a yellow sun on a black background. It told you you’re in space. And floating.” - Victor Vescovo●     “We all find our own path; I eventually found my way to space, though it took longer than expected. You just have to hold on to those dreams and, hopefully, someday circumstances will provide the opportunity.” - Victor Vescovo Related Content: ●     Kathy Sullivan Explores… Mountain Climbing, Deep Ocean Diving & The Purpose of Life with Victor Vescovo Connect with Victor Vescovo:●     Caladan Oceanic●     Caladan Oceanic on YouTube●     Caladan Oceanic on Instagram●     Caladan Oceanic on Facebook●     Victor Vescovo on LinkedIn●     a...
Out of Your Bubble

Out of Your Bubble

2023-04-1311:35

I started dreaming about living abroad when I was around 12 years old, figuring that I would achieve that by attending a university that had a junior-year abroad program. This dream was realized as I became an exchange student at the University of Bergen in Norway, where I had the opportunity to learn another language through an immersive summer program that involved living on a small farm at the heart of the country, near the cabin of one of our teachers. But it wasn’t just a new language that I learned from that experience—it taught me something fundamental about Norwegian culture and social ethos that made me more self-aware, self-observant, and tuned into the country I’d live in for the next year and a half. In this episode, I discuss Janteloven and what I learned about the social culture of Norway. I describe how I dreamed about living overseas as a kid and what attracted me to Norway. I differentiate Norwegian and American culture and discuss the social codes prevalent in Scandinavian cultures. I also highlight the importance of getting yourself out of your own bubble and underscore what I love most about traveling. “We all live in bubbles of one sort or another, usually without being aware of them. You have to get out of them to get to know and understand new people, places, and cultures.” - Kathy SullivanThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:●     Reading Snow Treasure and other things that inspired me to live in Norway●     My experience joining the University of Bergen’s immersive summer program in Oslo●     A stark difference between the American and Norwegian cultures●     The frontier mentality and America’s individualist culture●     The Janteloven and how Norwegians preserve social harmony and stability●     The Lagom and the value of ensuring everyone’s basic needs are metResources Mentioned:●     Book: Snow Treasure by Marie McSwiganOur Favorite Quotes:●     “What I love most about traveling is exactly that—trying to merge as much as I can into the new place, to feel what it’s like and understand where people are coming from. It’s like putting on a costume and inhabiting a new character.” - Kathy Sullivan●     “The Janteloven is decidedly not about knocking down the tall poppy, but boils down to the simple point that if we are to live together in harmony, we need to consider each other’s feelings.” - Kathy SullivanSpaceship Not Required I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!a...
Ché Bolden is a US Marine Corps veteran and President and CEO of The Bolden Group. Founded in 2017, The Bolden Group is a consortium of accomplished leaders dedicated to fostering international collaboration to make life better for all of humanity. Ché served for over 26 years in the US Marine Corps, where he also served as an International Affairs Program Coordinator and Weapons and Tactics Instructor. After concluding his service with the Marine Corps, Ché founded two technology companies, Inter Aria and Sapient.ONE. He is currently the President of Ario and leads the organization’s strategy and vision. Ché holds a Bachelor of Science degree in History from the United States Naval Academy, a Global Master of Arts from Tufts University’s Fletcher School, and a Master of Arts degree in Strategic Studies from the Marine Corps War College.Ché joins me today to share the history behind his name and describe his life before moving to Houston, Texas with his family. He explains how witnessing his father’s mission to service the Hubble Space Telescope opened his eyes to the true meaning of service. He discusses his transition to the private sector after retiring from the US Marine Corps and highlights The Bolden Group’s mission to push the boundaries of the space industry. He also outlines what it would take to create diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry and offers advice to young people starting their careers.“Create opportunities for disadvantaged and underrepresented communities to get an equal place at the table. We won’t realize the fullest potential of space unless we get more people in the discussion.” - Ché BoldenThis week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:The young Ché Bolden and what it was like to be a part of the Bolden family“Flashbulb” memories and the beginnings of Ché’s life as an explorerHow the mission of his father, Charles Bolden Jr., to service the Hubble Space Telescope taught Ché the meaning of serviceChé’s role models and what inspired him to attend the US Naval Academy and become an aviatorHis challenges and struggles at the US Naval AcademyWhy the presence of other people is essential to one’s successChé’s foray into the private sector and his work with The Bolden GroupThe Bolden Group’s mission to empower servant-leaders and foster diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industryPushing the boundaries of traditional spaceThe difference between a meritocracy and a “mirror-tocracy”Resources Mentioned:Why diversity should not be the exception | Ché Bolden | TEDxPearlStreetOur Favorite Quotes:“If things are going bad for you, go and find someone else having a worse day you’re having and be there for them.” - Ché Bolden“Other people are important to your success. Contrary to what some prolific mega-billionaires want to tell people, nobody does anything by themselves.” - Ché BoldenRelated Content:Charlie Bolden on Pathways to SpaceThe Life of a Visionary with Charlie Bolden Part 1The Birth of the New Space Age with Charlie Bolden Part 2Two Funny...
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