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Welcome to First Smoke of the Day – The Ultimate Cannabis Industry Podcast!


First Smoke of the Day is your go-to podcast for Exclusive insider Access to Cannabis Culture, Cultivation, Entrepreneurship, and more. Tune in for behind-the-scenes interviews with Cultivators, Hashmakers, Breeders, Brand owners, Athletes, Musicians, Smugglers, and the Fearless Hustlers shaping the cannabis industry. Discover Untold stories, expert tips, and valuable lessons from cannabis legends and innovators. From navigating underground movements to uncovering entrepreneurial success stories, we bring you real stories, hard truths, and actionable insights from the people driving cannabis culture forward.


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In this episode of First Smoke of the Day, we sit down with the minds behind High Supply to break down how the cannabis industry really moves behind the scenes.From building trusted relationships to curating high-level industry events, this conversation dives into what it actually takes to grow a brand, navigate production, and create long-term impact in cannabis, without the hype.We talk legacy thinking, why human connection still matters more than ever, how real partnerships are formed, and what separates brands that last from brands that disappear. This is about culture, consistency, and doing things the right way, even when it’s harder.If you’re into cannabis culture, brand building, industry events, production strategy, or just want to understand how the business side truly works, this episode is for you.This isn’t theory. This is lived experience from people in the field, putting in real work and shaping what’s next.Tap in and learn how the cannabis industry is being built quietly, intentionally, and with purpose.👉 Subscribe for more conversations on cannabis culture, business, and legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
DOJA stepped away from the spotlight… and built something nobody expected.We flew out to see it firsthand — a field filled with some of the most unique, finely developed genetics we’ve ever walked through. No hype. No noise. Just real work, real selection, and years of quiet progress finally being revealed.This is the DOJA era the community has been waiting on. From early breeding selections to global collaboration, to projects he’s kept behind the scenes… this tour shows why DOJA stays “years ahead” instead of “loudest online.” The focus, the intention, the direction — it’s all here.If you’re into genetics, cultivation, phenotype selection, brand-building, or plant culture, this is one of those episodes that sticks with you after it ends. Tap in and walk the field with us.👑 Respect to the growers, breeders, and creators pushing the craft forward every day.This episode is for the ones who care about quality, character, and legacy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Purple City Genetics pulled up and dropped game on the entire clone world. This episode goes deep into the business of genetics, the reality of running a nursery, global smuggling stories, preservation, rare landrace lines, citrus & cherry breeding, and the emotional rollercoaster behind cultivation.If you care about clones, genetics, breeding, nurseries, Bay Area culture, legacy cannabis, cultivation challenges, or the future of flavor, this conversation is going to hit different. Oren breaks down how Purple City built their name without shortcuts, from family smuggling roots to moving 20,000 cuts a month, to traveling the world collecting lines that would’ve been lost forever.We get into the hard truths behind keeping genetics alive, the pressure farmers face, clone quality, what makes a cultivar worth running, why nurseries are the backbone of the industry, and how real growers stay connected through global circles.This is one of the most raw, honest, and educational looks into genetics you’ll find anywhere, straight from a team actually doing it.Tap in, roll up, and learn something the industry doesn’t put on IG. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Robert Clarke and Todd McCormick sit down with First Smoke of the Day to talk about the real history behind cannabis, from the early days of Hashish to the evolution of genetics, cultivation, and medical research that shaped today’s industry.In this deep-dive conversation, Robert and Todd share firsthand stories about the origins of hash culture in America, the global journey to preserve plant genetics, and what the future holds for growers, breeders, and cannabis education.This episode is for every cultivator, breeder, and enthusiast who wants to understand where the culture came from and where it’s going next. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Man Behind Cannabis Tissue Culture Labs 🌱In this episode, we sit down with Mike Hydro, one of the most respected names in cannabis tissue culture and genetics preservation. From setting up Jungle Boys’ first tissue culture lab to working with top cultivators and breeders across the country, Mike breaks down how tissue culture is helping growers protect rare strains, restore old cuts, and keep genetics clean for the next generation.He shares the science, the mindset, and the story behind his journey — from his early breeding days with Super Seeds to consulting with major names in the industry. This conversation dives into the real craft behind cannabis preservation and the future of cultivation.🎬 Chapters:00:00 – Intro: Who Is Mike Hydro?04:35 – Inside the Science of Tissue Culture12:50 – Early Mistakes and Lessons in the Lab28:40 – The Future of Breeding & Clone Sales54:20 – Preserving Cannabis for the Next GenerationDisclaimer: This content is for educational and documentary purposes only. We do not promote or sell cannabis products. Viewer discretion is advised.Stay connected:Website: https://www.fsotd.comInstagram: @FirstSmokeOfTheDayPatreon: First Smoke of the Day#MikeHydro #CannabisTissueCulture #CannabisGenetics #PlantScience Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Michigan is making noise and the whole cannabis industry is starting to feel it. 🌬️In this First Smoke of the Day exclusive, we hit the road for Zalympix Michigan, where top brands, hashmakers, and growers prove that real quality, community, and craftsmanship still matter. From budget rosin grinds to next-level solventless drops, this episode dives deep into how Michigan’s cannabis scene is rewriting the playbook, with lessons, gems, and pure game every market needs to hear.The FSOTD crew sits down with some of the state’s most respected operators, from Quest Dispensaries and Apex Solventless to O2 Vape, Yeti Stash, and more — breaking down what makes Michigan different, how they’re winning, and why authenticity always outlasts hype.🎥 Watch for real talk about branding, consistency, partnership, and why Michigan’s movement is setting new standards for cannabis culture.#Zalympix #MichiganCannabis #FirstSmokeOfTheDay #FSOTD #CannabisCulture #CannabisCommunity #MidwestCannabis #Hashmakers #CannabisIndustry #CannabisPodcast #CannabisBusiness #Solventless #Rosin #QuestDispensaries #O2Vape #YetiStash #ApexSolventless Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, we sit down with Northcoast, a true hustler and legacy operator from Flint, Michigan. From caregiver roots and gritty beginnings to building one of the most respected names in Michigan’s cannabis industry, this conversation is about grit, growth, and game-changing moves.He shares his journey from early days as a caregiver to becoming a major voice in the rosin movement. The conversation covers stories from wrestling shaping his mindset, hustling door-to-door in Philly, and learning the ropes in Texas. Northcoast also dives into brand building, custom cold packs, and how real partnership plays a role in long-term success.We also break down the deeper meaning behind the “Northcoast” name and what makes Michigan’s cannabis scene unlike anywhere else. For those chasing real cannabis culture, this one’s a must-watch.Listen now and tap into the Rosin Revolution 🎧 Northcoast #FSOTD #MichiganCannabis #RosinTech #LegacyGrower #CannabisPodcast #FlintMichigan #CaregiverRoots #RosinRevolution #FirstSmokeoftheDay Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
From flipping bootlegs in his bedroom to building a $30M streetwear empire, Michael Cherman has rewritten the blueprint for modern creativity. In this episode of First Smoke of the Day, the founder of Chinatown Market and Market Studios shares his raw journey — from early days at GoodWood NYC and collabs with Chase Infinite and ASAP, to designing the iconic Kith box logo and rebranding an entire streetwear movement.Michael opens up about bootleg culture, brand authenticity, and why the best creators share their tools instead of gatekeeping. He also dives into the evolution of cannabis branding, how to build real community around design, and what it takes to stay relevant when trends fade.🎥 Watch this full podcast episode and interview with Michael Cherman for insights…#MichaelCherman #ChinatownMarket #MarketStudios #StreetwearPodcast #FirstSmokeOfTheDay #FSOTD #StreetwearCulture #FashionPodcast #CannabisBranding #EntrepreneurMindset Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
It’s time to get familiar with a new brand run by two of the most decorated OGs in the game, one of whom is responsible for the creation of Bubba Kush and the genetics behind Dr. Greenthumb’s empire, while the other is responsible for building multiple grow tech empires, dipping his fingers into every aspect of the industry along the way.Blackleaf is joined in the FSOTD studio by the legend himself, Kenji Fujishima, and his partner Art, to discuss all things Craft Cartel, CraftCo Direct, as well as their legacies in the industry, countless unheard stories surrounding celebrities like B-Real, DJ AM, the REAL story behind Bubba Kush, how Kenji got the original Bubba back from Trap Jesus after 15 years, where the industry is at right now, and so much more.If you haven’t seen our first interview with Kenji, we highly recommend going back and soaking in even more of this guy’s insane backstory. To give a brief synopsis, Kenji grew up with BReal, and as soon as Cypress Hill hit it big, Kenji was touring with the group, picking up genetics at Sensi Seeds’ shop in Amsterdam, blowing out BReal’s garage in Hollywood with plants, collecting seeds from BReal all the years Cypress Hill touredessentially providing the genetic backbone for what would become Dr. Greenthumb’s.Art has spent more than 25 years working across every part of the 🍃 industry, from its legacy roots in the late 1990s around the San Fernando Valley to today’s regulated market. He specializes in providing cultivation supplies and consumables to growers and operators, helping sustain the backbone of the industry with essential tools and resources. Art will weigh in heavily on the strength of his hometown connections, and how they played a huge role in the success of his grow store, and really all of his endeavors. Throughout the podcast, you’ll notice that Art’s calling card is blending business insight with cultural influence to help cultivators get their set-ups and crops dialed to the max. You’ll also hear about Art’s partnership with Kenji on Craft Cartel and CraftCo Direct, and how they’ve gone back to the basics to tailor-make a connoisseur brand that redefines “craft weed.”If you’ve been wondering what Kenji’s been up to since parting ways from being the head grower at Dr. Greenthumb’s, what his relationship with B-Real and the company is like these days, as well as the significance of his focus on Craft Cartel now, you can’t miss a second of this episode. Did we even mention the genetics? There are countless strains that Kenji and Art produce for Blackleaf to smoke throughout this pod that’ll have your mouth watering, ESPECIALLY if you have a taste for the classic flavors. Real Bubba, Thai, and unheard of OG varieties are showcased by Kenji and Art, even an OG x Gushers x Mai Thai #4 pheno that has Blackleaf fiending for more. Between the crazy stories of running around the Valley and LA during the mid-to-late 90s into the early 2000s, touring with Cypress Hill, discussions about growing techniques such as HPS vs LED, different hydro setups, building empires alongside your childhood best friends, and how the wrong grower can ruin the perfect facility, this episode is so jam-packed it’ll have you on the edge of your seat.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key figures and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
What happens when you bring together four of the most prominent breeders from both Northern and Southern California? Today’s episode is a special inside look into the genetics that have set major trends, the importance of preservation, how to put your work into tissue culture, and so much more.Blackleaf is joined in the FSOTD studio by a hitlist of legends: Jordan of Trinity Association/Domain Miel, Brad of Raw Genetics, Auryn of Purple City Genetics, and Umami Seed Co, to get down to the nitty gritty of one of the biggest topics on this show—genetics. You’ll hear hot takes on a number of spicy topics throughout this pod, such as what level you pay respect to the breeder when you’re running and gunning with their work, how Royal Queen cuts corners in the European seed game, the times of growing a profitable monocrop being verifiably dead, the right way to name a new pheno, where the public’s favor is heading in terms of genetic selection, and much much more.If you’ve ever wondered about the importance of proprietary genetics in terms of a 🍃brand’s longevity in the game, sit tight until the end to have damn-near every question answered. On top of that, many players in the industry have been talking about tissue culture preservation, which Umami Seeds might explain nearly the entire process for at some point in this pod. Auryn of Purple City is also well-known in the tissue culture game and weighs in on how easy it is to get the right cuts preserved for future use. Delving more into the direction and current state of genetic preference within the industry, you’ll hear Brad of Raw Genetics make bold claims such as “the Z Wars are still well underway,” and that we’ll likely see a lot more innovations on Original Z fka Zkittlez genetics before public demand for candy strains sees a dramatic decline. He may also divulge some of the current Z work that Raw Genetics has been cooking up, highlighting their signature Zikigai strain, a rare F1 twice inbred with Z. If you’ve had trouble growing this notorious strain, you may even get some classified intel on why you want to take her 12 weeks. Last, but not least, the amount of backstories leaked about hallmark strains from Purple City Genetics like their Gush Mintz 1:1 is replete from start to finish, as well as conversations about how difficult it is to bring certain flavors to the spotlight, including the hardships surrounding orange terps and why certain hitters like Orange Cookies come and go especially quick. To top it all off, there’s a juicy conversation you can’t miss where each breeder rails off their favorite breeders in the game, giving knods to specific packs they’ve found winners from, such as Archive Genetics, Exotic Genetix, and more.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key figures and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Who will pass on the legacies, cultivation methods, and unique eye for genetics possessed by the Emerald Triangle legends we all grew up admiring? Today’s guest is the answer to that question, along with how classic cuts are being properly preserved, showcased, and bred in new ways to excite modern smokers. Blackleaf is joined in the FSOTD studio by the protege of giants, Leo Stone of Aficionado Seeds to divulge spicy unheard stories about his experience going AWOL from Army Intelligence to pursue the plant, being mentored by OG Mike, how he got involved with Mike and Eddy Lepp’s dispo in San Diego, how Leo got the real Lemon Diesel and Purple Urkle, when Cherry Pie Kush cuts were selling for $500k a pop, Kevin Jodrey’s impact after setting up HPRC in Arcata, when Leo got his hands on his first 160 acres in Mendo, and so much more.If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to grow up in a military family, and still have an unquenchable thirst to be involved with the plant, this episode is for you. Leo will detail growing up on base in Japan and how hard it was to get a bag of weed, as well as when he made his decision to go into Army Intelligence, and the moment he got busted for having weed at his residence on base, going AWOL, and eventually getting put on by OG Mike in SD, solidifying his lifer-status in the budding industry.For any cigar smokers out there, Leo will go into deep detail on his former affinity for premium stogies that used to charm him into many important rooms and get him seats at life-changing tables during his military years. This same deep understanding and appreciation of cigars was one of the driving factors in creating Aficionado Seeds, tailor-made for connoisseur 🍃smokers. The brand also pioneered luxury genetics by introducing highly sought-after strains like Black Lime Reserve and Chemdog Special Reserve. Combined with luxury packaging, it’s no surprise Aficionado has won multiple High Times Cups in the past.Numerous other names of interest are mentioned throughout this podcast by both Blackleaf and Leo, including the legend of Mandlebrat, the controversy surrounding Rez Dog, Leo’s first SeedsHereNow drop, how the G6 Jet Fuel strain came around, and the origins of the EU Aficionado French Connection seed brand, as well as his budding Aficionado Colombia project. You might even see Leo gift Blackleaf an authentic Colombian farmer’s scarf from his people down South.It’s literally impossible to detail every noteworthy story contained within this episode. If you were a fan of our Kevin Jodrey pod, you can’t miss a single story from one of his main disciples. If you’re also curious about how things really went down in Mendo and Humboldt back in the day, you’ll be on the edge of your seat from start to finish. Search Aficionado Humboldt online to see what they’re currently cooking up.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key figures and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
We’ve talked about OG before, but never to this extent. For everyone out there who thinks the classic Kush varieties have long since disappeared—think again. Today’s guest is about to prove how far you can go when you hunker down on what you know and stand your ground on the impact and importance of OG in today’s industry.Blackleaf is joined in the FSOTD studio by the mysterious legend himself, Mike from KushCo., to discuss all things surrounding OG genetics, as well as what it’s like having some of your protegees surpass you in the industry, being a diehard HPS guy, and slowly integrating LEDs, and how the original KushCo. OG cut came from Wonderbrett, the story behind the Sour Power strain, and the problems with today’s industry, from the dispensaries to the taxation, and so much more.If you’ve ever wondered the backstory on a wide number of iconic OGs, you can’t miss a minute of this pod. Mike really dives deep into the lore for so many strains that it’s almost worth taking notes. You’ll hear him talk about some of his early work with DNA Genetics, and how the Kosher Kush and Skywalker OG strains are actually the same cut. He may even reminisce on the Original Glue that he used to put out with his people called “King Kong Glue,” citing it as the one that got away.The main topic surrounding this entire pod is the return of the Gas and overall demand for Kush varieties once again in the legal market. Blackleaf asks Mike several questions such as why he stuck to his guns growing OG for so many years, how he responds to others trying to get his original cuts these days, why he hasn’t done an out-of-state licensing deal yet, and the extra intensive labor and experience required to even hit a dialed-in run with some of his staples like Sour Sage OG, which they’re coincidentally phasing out of their lineup for a more modern take.For those who are still asking, “What happened to OG in California?” This episode is your definitive answer. While many wiped their rooms to make room for candy, Runtz, and LCG-inspired strains, Mike kept cranking the same strains that he came up loving, that he knew everyone would come back to again in due time…and that time is now. Blackleaf heralds KushCo.’s flower throughout this episode as the most frequently gifted to him when someone says he needs to smoke some “real gas,” or “real OG.”If you are a passionate grower or commercial cultivator looking for inspiration, we can’t recommend this episode enough. Mike perfectly illustrates how big you can go when you never break stride from what YOU like to grow and what YOU like to smoke. You’ll even hear him discuss how to carefully build out your partnerships, too, so that everyone can keep doing what they love. Tap in and hear Mike’s full story before he ducks back into his massive grow to continue pumping out pure heat.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key figures and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This is the episode you’ve been waiting for, with possibly one of our most highly-requested guests, talking about the dirt, grime, poor legislation, break-ins, and incredibly tough decisions of the industry that no one else has the cajones to say with their chest, let alone on camera. Grab your popcorn for this one.Blackleaf sits down in the FSOTD studio with the Elliot Lewis, the notoriously outspoken CEO of Catalyst Co, a vertically integrated operation with over 33+ dispensaries statewide, plus a consumption lounge, who also produce a slew of in-house brands, to get down to the nitty gritty of the Glass House Farms fiasco, where industry tax money REALLY goes, getting raided multiple times by the DCC, the prominence of dirty or poisonous products at smoke shops/trap shops, receiving death threats, owning 25% of Cali Plug, why Elliot has his CCW and stays strapped, and so much more.If you thought you knew the whole story with Glass House Farms dating back to Elliot’s initial lawsuit against them, buckle up, because we really get into the entire debacle from start to finish. Elliot dives into deep detail about his inherent issues with Glass Houses’s operations, segwaying into assertions that 90% of Black Market products come from the legal market, and for those like Glass House that’ve claimed clean noses throughout, and to be caught red-handed back-dooring product…their behavior only damages the playing field on both sides.You might be thinking this is just another episode with a very vocal guest, but Elliot goes so much further than rocking the boat. You’ll hear him talk about the real efforts he’s been making with his team to lobby for change at the legislative level in California, his “tax strike,” and how he found a loophole that enabled him to potentially save millions on his taxes, much to the dismay of the DCC. On top of all the crazy stories that Elliot lets loose during this pod, there’s also multiple conversations about what might happen when big money enters the industry and how many players may sell and exit, how our tax money goes straight into the pockets of politicians and super PACs, where all the homeless and fire relief money has ACTUALLY gone in CA, and how he hopes that someday the people will put the right individuals in position, but if it’s up to the current powers-that-be, nothing will ever change in terms of taxation, safe banking, and general profitability and longevity in the space.If you’ve ever wondered the full story on how Catalyst came into prominence, the partnership between Caleb at Connected and Elliot, how brands grew with them as they expanded locations, the grocery store model that have to implement these days to protect margins, as well as what it really takes to get your brand on their shelves, you have to sit through to the end to truly soak up all of Elliot’s game and candid responses.It’s almost impossible to detail every vital knowledge-drop, never-before-heard background story, and tokens of wisdom that Elliot lets loose throughout this extended episode. By the end, you’ll understand why his slogan, “Weed for the people,” is basically tatted on his chest. If you’ve ever felt like it’s impossible to build an empire in the industry off honesty, grit, and never once “selling out,” you can’t miss a minute of this pod with one of California’s most resilient retail operators.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key figures and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
We don’t talk about the consumer enough. So, we had to bring back two iconic guests whose entire reason to smoke is for the sake of the customer’s delight. These two are on the hunt for perfection in terms of smokeability, and have been developing the craziest glass tips to try and find it, as well as pitting the best-of-the-best across the nation (and globe) against each other to uncover the truth.Blackleaf is joined once again in the FSOTD studio by Adam Pain and Paul Christmon of Proper Doinks to bring the discussion back to what’s actually smoking, as well as their upcoming $10,000 cash prize competition we’re involved in (1st round against Good Pizzza!), when colorful flower and purple bud infected California and became the standard, Alien Labs vs. Connected flower quality, collaborating with B-Real, HPS producing more fire than LEDs, the timely return of Gas varieties, and so much more.Adam and Paul are back with a stack of hot takes that’ll surely fire up the comment section and get people talking about what matters—the smoke! A big topic that comes up again is the quality of flower that comes from a curator versus a cultivator, and how the best form of curator is also a cultivator, which Adam firmly stands on business about yet again. The big debate gains deeper levels in this pod when the discussion about spraying latent flower arises, as well as black ash continuing to be a tell-tale sign of bad smoke. Adam and Paul even go into detail on how they break it to growers when their flower that looks great and has an incredible nose still isn’t smoking right. Drip Hydro is mentioned multiple times as a time-honored solution for providing your plants proper, clean nutrients that translates to delicious smoke.Aside from all the fire brands that are mentioned all the way from Redding to Arizona and beyond, the Proper Doinks crew is insanely busy. You’ll hear them detail a neverending content schedule they adhere to, grinding out 2-3 videos a day nearly 7 days a week, constantly trying new strains, and the struggles of keeping the engine running with a baby on the way. Not to mention the issues creators in the industry face in terms of monetization and censorship.If you’ve been wondering if glass tips really make joints taste and smoke better, or what adding a million holes to the tip really does for the smoke, this is a great episode for you. If you love competition, look no further, @properdoinkstv on IG is one of the best places to tune in daily and ask yourself #buthowdoesitsmoke?!Needless to say, the Proper Doinks guys are connoisseur-grade rollers. Watch to the end and see how you might be smoking a perfectly rolled joint wrong, find out what an “improper doink” is, and then scope our recent Art of Rolling Series featuring the Proper Doinks crew. Head over to properselections.com to lay your eyes on the best glass tips and smoking accessories in the game.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key figures and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
If you feel like you haven’t heard enough about the ins and outs of herb law, you’re in luck, because we had to bring back one of the most pivotal younger figures in the world of California ca**abis legal representation to chop it up about some of his biggest horror stories and dive deeper into his litigation lore.Blackleaf is joined in the FSOTD studio once again by Chris Hickok, aka “Alien At Law,” to further uncork the mysteries and hurdles of operating legally today, some of the legal myths still believed by old-school cultivators, the laundry list of culture-shaping brands that Chris represents, the biggest crash-outs he’s seen between business partners, the craziest ways he’s seen a license get pulled, the importance of having the break-up talk before signing contracts, and so much more.For the uninitiated, Chris Hickok is an attorney based in California who co-founded HK Law and serves as Chief of Legal Compliance at Primary Growth Partners (PGP), where he specializes in boutique regulatory and corporate counsel for 🍃 operators. He has handled over 200 state and local cannabis license applications and previously practiced at Shevin Law Group, a leading Southern California herb law firm.Chris’s clients are definitely a topic of interest during this pod. You’ll find out he’s the current legal counsel for brands like Your Highness, Broken Promises, Smoken Promises, Terphogz, Alien Labs, Connected, The TenCo, Seed Junky Genetics, and many, many, many more. By the end of this episode, you 100% lose count of all the industry legends this guy represents in California.One of the other biggest topics that comes up during this interview is building original IP in the 🍃industry, the dangers of it potentially appealing to children, as well as the regularly occurring trademark infringements across the traditional and legal herb markets. At one point, Chris even weighs in on the Glass House situation, as well as the dangers of posting any type of trapper content on social media or online, especially if your mylars are ripping off trademarked characters from Disney, Nickelodeon, or the like.If you’re looking for insight into the ways that herb businesses can go horribly awry when you’re using someone else’s name on a license, even if it’s your sibling, and some scary stories about that other person coming in and taking over your business, sit tight. Chris tells all in this juicy pod where he eventually points out the biggest red flags you should look for when investing in a cultivation or retail herb business.There’s truly so much your average industry member doesn’t understand about covering their ass legally, and that’s why conversations with legendary lawyers like Chris matter, because he was there fresh out of passing his Bar Exam at the cups in SoCal in 2016 onward, meeting the need for legal represensation very early on for young players that just need someone that they can trust. Strap in for the full pod and take notes, and consider reaching out for a consultation via @alienatlaw on IG.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key figures and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
We’re still striking where the iron is hot in the culture right now with another well-connected and well-respected figure from the Michigan scene, this time to discuss a controversial topic amongst cultivators of all sizes—the utilization (or underutilization) of beneficial predatory bugs, especially in indoor grow spaces.Blackleaf is joined in the FSOTD studio by Nick Zimmer, founder of Plantsman Group, a company breaking the stigma daily on the beneficial bugs needed to keep your grow in a state of utter homeostasis without having to use hardly any chemical pesticides. And don’t worry, the topic of whether you can run a grow chemical and pesticide-free with just beneficial bugs does come up.Our host seriously came with his list of questions this time, certifiably, as no stone is left unturned in terms of topics surrounding ideal cycles for adding beneficial bugs and when to remove them, whether bugs really poop in the buds, best practices so you’re not burning your crop in week 5 or 6, the history of the legacy market in Michigan, using bugs with DWC, dealing with aphids, utilizing nematodes to solve fungus gnat issues, the beneficial bug starter pack, and so much more.For those unaware of the credentials surrounding Nick and Plantsman, here are the cliffnotes. Plantsman Group is a Michigan‑based company offering organic pest‑management solutions tailored for 🍃 cultivators. Founded in 2022 by Nick Zimmer, the company focuses on integrating beneficial insects and preventative care rather than relying on chemical pesticides. Nick Zimmer, a Michigan State University horticulture graduate, transitioned from conventional ornamental growing to pioneering biology‑based integrated pest management in cannabis cultivation, which you’ll hear all about during the pod. Besides the endless free game that is dropped, Nick’s life story will also have you 100% tuned in. He aims to eliminate pesticides across grow facilities by replacing synthetic sprays with natural predators, delivering both products and hands‑on consultation to growers of all sizes. Some of the best parts of this pod are when Nick is regaling our host with his best horror stories from the massive array of grow operations he’s consulted for and helped bring back to pest-free. We’re talking enormous spider mite outbreaks, aphid infestations, and more. One of the other overarching points Nick makes during this conversation is that Plantsman is focused on helping each individual who comes to them tailor-make a solution using their library of predatory bugs. Nick emphasizes reaching out via their site or social media to get a direct response on troubleshooting your issue. Blackleaf begins this episode by asserting that too many growers deal with bug issues, some big, some small, and they all refuse to look into beneficial predatory bugs. But, who doesn’t want to produce the cleanest, most pesticide-free bud possible…right? Hopefully, by the end, you’ll feel a little more inclined to bang Plantsman’s line to see if you can get some further enlightenment and (maybe) finally get rid of those pesky thrips.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key players and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Whoever says that Michigan doesn’t have the fire is about to be proven wrong. Today’s guest is a keeper not only of insane Prop 215 lore, but also one of the real-deal pioneers of the medical and recreational scene in MI, actively setting the standard for A-1 smoke and the right way to get it into the hands of the people 7 days of the week.Blackleaf is joined back in the FSOTD studio by the legend himself, Andrew Thomas, of Exclusive Brands, to discuss the late 90s and early 2000s, bouncing around LA and visiting places like the iconic dab bar at Kind Meds, as well as Michigan’s claims to fame in terms of Chem, OG, and Gas genetics, the prominence of customers driving in from border states like Ohio and Illinois to get MI prices and premium flower options, as well as the future of the industry in terms of interstate commerce, and safe, traditional banking, marketing access, and so much more.For those unaware, Exclusive Brands is a vertically-integrated retailer with (currently) seven shops running across the state including in Ann Arbor, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Monroe, Muskegon, Lowell, Coldwater, Lapeer, and Gaylord. Their portfolio includes their in-house labels like Concentrate Kings, Strain Kings, Terpene Tanks, Magic Edibles, and more, offering a full range of products from flower and vapes to edibles and concentrates. Exclusive emphasizes quality and transparency with lab-tested products and educates consumers through rewards, weekly deals, and (most importantly) knowledgeable and attentive staff, with an expansive line of merchandise and in-house product. You’ll also get to hear about how they became the first in the state to get the licensing to manufacture and distribute major California stables like Kushy Punch. And even the story about how Andrew's partner eventually even acquisitioning the Kushy Punch brand after it had a very public legal fallout. We’re not joking when we say that this episode is JUICY in terms of free game and crazy stories surrounding partnerships, trapping, building the dream team, expanding into 5+ shops, and how to keep a lid on it with an almost religious connection to customer service paired with aggressively competitive prices. From producing mixtapes with The Game and countless other hip-hop legends as a teenager to diving headfirst into California’s early Prop 215 days to absorb the culture, set up shop, trap it out, and then bring all the knowledge back to Michigan the minute Medical hit, it’s almost impossible not to learn something valuable from this conversation with Andrew if you’re a hustler or even just a passionate fan of the plant. Hit the play button, kick back until the end, and you’ll thank us later. Visit Exclusivemi.com to learn more about everything you’re missing out on in the Michigan scene.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key players and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The FSOTD team is back abroad in Germany for Mary Jane Berlin with this special episode featuring one of the most well-connected and well-respected OGs in the scene, waist-deep in the culture, and deeply embedded in the past, present, and future of the medical, and hopefully someday, recreational herb industry in Deutschland. Blackleaf sits down at the Weekend Club next to Alexanderplatz in Berlin with the legend himself, Massoud Mahgoli of The Kraut Company, and former Bloomwell Group board member, to discuss the politics of the 🍃medical market and overall herb industry in Germany, as well as the strict drug policies across Europe, the shifting focus toward Germany as a new cultural hub for innovators of the plant, Berlin’s reception to the massive Mary Jane expo the past few years, helping to bring Doja Pak into the market, chopping it up with Biggie Smalls’ son, and so much more.Massoud Mahgoli currently drives strategic growth and innovation in the burgeoning medical 🍃market across Germany for The Kraut Co. He previously served as a board member of the Bloomwell Group, contributing to its development and industry influence by helping to bring in key players from overseas (like Doja) in terms of genetics and cultivation styles. Massoud brings a blend of startup energy and corporate insight to his leadership roles that your typical Chads could never remotely imitate. Despite the under hourlong length, don’t be fooled, there are countless gems tucked into this episode. You’ll hear Massoud predict the future of legalization in Germany, as well as make plenty of bold claims including that Germany has (perhaps) recently taken the torch in terms of driving the culture forward, but Spain never really had it to begin with. Massoud also goes into detail about the long history of technological innovation that Germany has been responsible for, and that although they may not have the cultivation space to become the next mecca, they surely can become the next biggest hub for creating what’s next in the space, and breeding innovation that will become the new norm. You’ll hear him highlight the Up In Smoke Cup that he co-founded last year, which wound up acting as a startup accelerator for the medical industry in the wake of last year’s Mary Jane Berlin.Countless inspiration is contained within this pod, and by the end, you’ll understand the storied role that cannabis has played in Germany, and how change is happening before our very eyes, with the potential for legalization looking brighter than ever. Keep your eyes peeled on The Kraut Company for setting the standard of what Deutschland’s herb culture will become.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key players and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
DNA Genetics & Bodhi: World Famous Breeders Join Forces, Secret Strains, Rare GeneticsCountless fans of FSOTD flood our DMs and comment sections demanding the return of “the fire,” “real OGs,” “the gas,” and/or classic cultivars from the 90s-2000s, which are the building blocks of the exotics we know today. In response to this demand, we brought on two absolute legends in terms of genetic legacy, preservation, and global recognition for the work they’ve made and continue to make to answer some of these questions.Blackleaf is joined in our LA studio by John of Green Bodhi, and once again, by Don and Aaron of DNA Genetics to discuss everything surrounding classic cultivars that many have assumed gone forever, why purple herb wasn’t and still isn’t fire, how Kenji cracked the original seeds on what would become “Pre-98 Bubba,” what goes into tissue culture and how Phylos is stacking up the world’s genetic library, and so many more stories surrounding legendary cuts such as the lore surrounding DNA’s Banana OG crosses which have literally changed the hash game.Legacy comes up a lot in this podcast, and how you go about achieving it. How do you reach a point where your Strawberry Banana is being used as the base for someone’s pheno hunt intended for washing? You’ll hear Don of DNA Genetics throw around a lot of strong claims during this pod, such as the time to create a true legacy brand being behind us, as well as how hype smokers that only blow Runtz or LCG crosses don’t even know what they want these days.Another prevalent topic throughout this episode is the sheer HEAT of John aka Green Bodhi’s herb on the table, none of which you’ll note is purple, how he grows it in Oregon, and his laundry list of “OG” and/or questionable growing techniques that seem to bring him 100% germination and time-honored yields. His background story is one that you definitely can’t miss, not only in terms of free game, but also sheer intrigue and entertainment. Throughout the episode, you’ll see Blackleaf flash around the extremely limited, yet recent, seed collab between Green Bodhi and DNA Genetics that they both claim you can get from them simply by hitting the DMs. The future is looking bright when you consider that two world-renowned heavyweights of legacy breeding and cultivation are currently joining forces to ensure the classics stay around and that someone keeps breeding new innovations on the iconic cuts that time might soon forget. One thing’s for sure, by the end of this episode, you’ll be fiending for Dog Walker, Chem, Skunk, Kush, Afghani, and Haze crosses like back in the day. Keep your eyes and ears peeled for when John brings up his Tenzen cut, and you won’t be sorry.Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key players and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Countless guests who come on our show ask about the landscape of the South American 🍃industry and market, but seldom do we have international interviewees who can actually talk about it firsthand. Not to mention, make a whole documentary on the topic and compare it to the state of 🍃culture and legislation across the world. Blackleaf is joined in the FSOTD studio by Luis Navarro and Pedro, the driving forces behind Ver de Perto, an upcoming documentary focusing on the state of 🍃legislation across Brazil and South America, highlighting the deep historical connection Brazilians have to the plant and the need for change, featuring interviews from across the world. In another podcast first—this is a collaborative episode—with pieces of the interview you’re viewing eventually ending up in the guests’ upcoming documentary, Ver de Perto. Luis and Pedro dive deep into countless burning questions Blackleaf rails off, such as what it’s like picking up herb on the street across Brazil, the legal implications of sparking up, importing, and exporting herb around South America, why “pressed weed” is still a common occurrence if you’re a lower-income citizen trying to pick up. We also get into Luis’ Afro-Brazilian roots and how seeds were originally smuggled into Brazil, and how he fell into the leading role in a Brazilian TV series titled “Joint Venture,” which changed his entire perspective on Mary Jane.Luis Navarro played Biriba, a former drug dealer navigating the (fictional) newly legalized industry in São Paulo on the Brazilian series Joint Venture (originally titled Pico da Neblina), which premiered in August 2019 on HBO Brazil. In the series, Navarro actively adapts to the shifting legal landscape by leveraging his street‑smart background to launch a legitimate 🍃 business. His current focus for the near future is the completion of this documentary, along with a few small stage performances in Brazil. Pedro is one of the most well-traveled international guests we’ve had on in a minute with deep cultivation experience, and he drops some seriously bold claims throughout the pod, as well. Things like the entire European industry (in terms of cultivation, quality, hash production, etc) are currently being led by Italians and ex-pat Brazilians. We also discuss Mary Jane Berlin 2025 and how the European market has made a major shift to Germany. Throughout the pod, Luis and Pedro also discuss how the documentary came about and the community effort that’s been driving it forward.This has to be one of the most interesting episodes we’ve ever had in terms of guests’ knowledge and experiences in life with the plant outside the US. These guys are still living in a country of pure prohibition, but with innovators and disrupters actively pushing the traditional market forward. Learn how Luis has become one of the biggest faces of the movement in Brazil for legalization, as well as the immense knowledge and experience growing industrial hemp and herb across South America and Europe that Pedro drops throughout by tuning in for the entire pod.And of course, be on the lookout for their groundbreaking documentary, Ver De Perto, by following their IG page, @verdeperto.doc!Subscribe to our channel and the FSOTD.com site to keep up with other key players and enjoy conversations with trailblazers from the culture you can’t find anywhere else. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Chris Olson

lmfao. this dude is partners with cops. he's a 🐀

Dec 25th
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Chris Olson

lol this dude is a 🤡

Sep 24th
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Andrew Jenkins

pack gods is getting worse and worse on learning how to flow a conversation. tighten it up or go behind the scenes!

Dec 20th
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Andrew Jenkins

ego ridden phony. fuck this guy

Nov 29th
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