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If you listen closely, you can almost hear the soft rattle of a bicycle coasting over cobblestones, weaving past tractors and farm fields on its way toward a small German village kitchen.
A little girl, Heidrun, is on that bike and, as her hair streams behind her in the wind, she can hardly hear anything herself. Her head is full of questions about what she’ll gather or forage with her Oma today - and what they’ll bake when they return to her kitchen - and hoping that, earlier this morning, while the moon was still high, Oma made her perfect yeast cake with soft streusel crumbles.
When she walks into the kitchen, Heidrun is delighted to see that - yes! Oma’s yeast cake has already risen, baked, and is now cooling in the window. And she’s comforted by the familiar sight of fresh quark wrapped in a muslin cloth, dripping its healthy whey slowly into a bowl below, where it will be saved and later added to bread.
Heidrun’s Oma was steady, disciplined, neat, tidy, and hardworking. She wasn’t talkative and she never used a scale. Nevertheless, she managed to teach generations, Heidrun included, the precise art of German Baking, an art which Heidrun has now put into book form with images, explanations, careful instructions.
And at the center of today’s story - and so many recipes in this book - is a cornerstone of German baking. Quark is a soft, rich, creamy, protein and calcium-rich, slightly tangy cheese essential to both sweet and savory German dishes.
To be honest, when I started the process of creating this episode, I thought quark was too technical, difficult, or time-consuming for me and thought, “Well, quark will be fun to talk about, but I’ll just use the substitutions that Heidrun mentions.”
However!
Much like her Oma did for her, Heidrun drew me out of my comfort zone through her quiet enthusiasm, empowering knowledge, and gentle insistence that it's always worth learning a new skill and making a recipe the right way.
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196 The Tireless German Oma and Her Creamy Quark
195 The Honest Magiría and Its Humble Chickpea Soup
194 The Best Mother-in-Law and Her Hungarian Walnut Torte
193 The War Bride, The Baker, And Their Apple Dumplings
192 The Gentle Generations and Their Best Cookies
191 The Creative British Nan and Her Cake That Came Full Circle
190 The Boisterous Landlady and Her Transformative Rajma Chawal
189 The Unflappable Farmer's Wife and Her Daily Bread
188 From French Wine Country: The Henriot Family Revives History in Champlitte
187 A Meal by the Fire: French Soup and Stories in Selina's Country Castle
186 Towards a Better Listener Experience: Join Me for a Call in 2025
185 Global Harvest Festivals: The Rare and Elusive Jubilee Phenomenon with Chase Matthews
184 Global Harvest Festivals: The Ancient 8 Day Festival of Sukkot with Susan Barocas
183 Palacinke & Cheesemaking: Nick’s Quest to Honor Baba Saveta’s Legacy
182 A 3 Minute Update: Big Announcement and Call for Feedback!
181 The Disappearing Farmer: Brian Reisinger’s Noble Fight to Secure America's Food Supply
180 The World’s Only: Dr. Menna’s Singular Mission to Unearth Egypt’s Food Legacy
179 What Happens After Happily Ever After? Alison Kay Returns
178 Jamaican Cuisine Goes Global: The Scotch Boyz Journey with Neil Hudson
177 From Liberia with Love: Frances & Jah's Culinary Mission and Famous Potato Salad
176 Riding Waves and Whipping Up Kaiserschmarrn with Anna and Marco at Mellowmove Surf Camp
175 Food, Feminism, Fury (and Family!): Geraldine DeRuiter's Tale of the Nesselrode Pie
174 Onsite Interview: Exploring 500 Years of History at Auerbachs Keller in Leipzig, Germany
173 A Holocaust Survivor Shares Her Story
172 The Heady Scent of Coffee Blossoms with Accamma Nanjappa
171 Warriors and Children of Nature with Accamma Nanjappa
170 A Cookbook Worth the Wait with Murielle Banackissa
169 Fermentation as Art, Science, and Life Philosophy with Larry Nguyen
168: A Wedding Feast to Last a Lifetime With Ruth Newman
167: Trauma, Mental Health, and Spritual Healing with Alda Sigmundsdóttir
166 Whale, Puffin, Horse and Icelandic Fish Stew with Chef Stefan of Þrír Frakkar
165 Recipes for Nurturing Joy with Deborah Johnson
164 Updates from My 4 Favorite Guests in 2024
163 RE-RELEASE The Christmas Story
162 RE-RELEASE The 4th Annual Christmas Pudding Episode
161 Christmas in Indonesia with M. Aimee Tan
160 Christmas in Bruderhof with Diana Rutherford
159 Christmas in Ecuador with Sofia Alarcon
158 Memories in the Dough: 70 Years of Montana Ranch Life
157 Brazilian Carrot Cake, German Chocolate, and Italian Art with B Santos
156 Lessons from Cameroon with Agatha Achindu, Author of Bountiful Cooking
155 Slavic Folk Tales & Childhood Memories in The Bone Roots with Gabriela Houston
154 Savor! An Interactive Celebration of Sephardic Culture Through Food & Music
153 "We Were Raised on Love" with Auntie Mary
152 Paradise in Palestine with Auntie Mary
151 The Heirloom Project with Sri Bodanapu
150 How To Find Meaning After Pain with Natasha Levai
149 Mythology, History, and Irish Stew with Shauna Lawless, Author of The Children of Gods and Fighting Men
148 Vanishing Things: Mushrooms, Monsoons, & Cultures with Author Kaveri Ponnapa of The Vanishing Kodavas
147 A 2023 Update: Why It's Been So Quiet Around Here
146 Christmas in Norway with Alexandra Taylor
145 Christmas in South Africa with Kate Jack
144 Christmas in the Valley of the Kings, France
143 Christmas in Alicante with Mar Lozano
142 Christmas in Palestine with Mai Kakish
141 The Gratitude Episode
140 Why This Revolution in Iran Can Succeed with Swarnika & Saeid
139 Habibi, What’s Cooking? Sfouf! With Amale Chamseddine
138 One in 6 Million Refugees: A Venezuelan Story from Anonymous
137 The 5 Days of Diwali with Lopamudra Mishra
136 What is Ancestral Eating with Alison of Ancestral Kitchen
135 Chosen for This? With Elizabeth Coulter, Special Needs Warrior
134 Honoring the Women of Palestine with Mai Kakish
133 The Diversity of Kazakhstan with Marina Lukyanchuk
132 Sunset, Moonlight, Cassava & Community with Sophie Musoki of A Kitchen in Uganda
131 All About Appalachia with Lauren of Must Love Herbs
130 A Bold, Brave Tour of India and Beyond with Dyutima Jha
129 A Sacrificial Lamb & A Critique of the West with Saima Ateeq
128 Mariupol: Memories, Warfare, & the Future of Ukraine with Olia Koutseridi
127 The US has 90,000 Miles of Shoreline. So Why Does It Import the Majority of Its Seafood? with Craig Fear
126 Update From Me, June 2022: A Favorite Story, Some Precious People, & An Invitation To You
125 Why Taiwan Is Not "Chinese Taipei" with Yone
124 A Love Letter to Poland with Zuza Zak, Author of Polska
123 The Feasts of Ramadan with Syrian-American Omayah Atassi
122 "A Peanut Never Forgets Its Shell" Life as a Third Culture Kid with M. Aimee
121 What Makes You Feel Rich? A Conversation with Alicia Akins, Author of Invitations to Abundance
120 Insights from a Russian Political Refugee With Anna Kharzeeva, Author of The Soviet Diet Cookbook
119 All About Baking Science with Author Dikla Frances
118 Happy Holi! All About The Festival of Colours with Rai Mukhopadhyay
117 Emergency Episode - Cook for Ukraine, An Opportunity Presented by Zuza Zak
116 Siberia, Diamonds, and Clowns! The Story of A Jewish Ukrainian Refugee
115 FOLLOW-UP Interview with Liz Zunon, Author & Illustrator of Grandpa Cacao (Retrospective Interview)
114 How To Give Without Regrets with Quiara Pinchina
113 NEW PODCAST ARTWORK! A Discussion About The Process With My Graphic Designer, Sara Sullivan
112 Tunisia, Couscous, and The Oula Ceremony with Elyes Taleb
111 How To Do Hard Things in 2022 - Multiple Sclerosis & Food with Theresa Korte
110 My Private & Personal Christmas Tradition
109 The 3rd Annual Christmas Pudding Episode
108 3 Sisters, 300 Pounds of Chocolate, & The Mom Who Started It All (+ The Best English Toffee)
107 The Best Thanksgiving Podcast Ever
106 A Personal Update Nov 17, 2022 and a Quick Request (Fill Out a 2 Min Anonymous Survey)
105 A Turkey Fit for The Queen with Paul Kelly of Kelly Bronze Turkey
104 A Heavenly Cause With Liam Elkind, Co-Founder of Invisible Hands Deliver
103 "What If We Weren't All Chicken?" With Haitian-American Kathiana LeJeune
102 Want Something to Change? Start Here. (With Marybeth Wells)
101 I Thought "Authentic" Was a GOOD Thing!? with Shayma Saadat
100 A Nomad Puts Down Roots with Garden Coach Carilyn Mae
099 RE-RELEASE with Daniela Wilson
098 Bringing Naples To Baltimore: Featuring Tony Scotto, His Family, & THB Bagels
097 Curing Land & Restoring Tradition with Afia Amoako, The Canadian Vegan
096 Turning the Tables! - An Interview with ME
095 A New Book, Sweets for Breakfast, Perception vs. Reality of an Author (Summer Retrospective Series 5)
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For many of us, Athens is inseparable from ancient—towering colonnades blinding white in the Mediterranean sun, rowdy crowds packed into massive amphitheatres, then those same crowds dispersing into balmy evenings washed in golden light, the 195 The Honest Magiría and Its Humble Chickpea Soupsmell of olive oil and roasted chickpeas drifting through the air.
But what about the Athens of the last eighty years? The last thirty or ten? A city shaped by occupation, migration, rebuilding, prosperity and globalization, then crisis and austerity?
Today’s guest, Diane Kochilas, has written a cookbook that does what I now consider essential for any cookbook I recommend: it is a book only she could have written. Part memoir and part modern history of her adopted city, Athens, she writes with the authority of the food journalist she once was, sharing dishes from over 100 Athenian restaurants (and modern home kitchens). The book contains the fresh recipes of today’s Athens, shaped by new arrivals and new ideas.
But in this episode, as in her cookbook, Diane honors Diporto—a restaurant that has steadfastly weathered all of these changes, remaining a constant for every class and community in Athens. And we celebrate Diporto’s simple five-ingredient soup made from those staples of ancient Athenian cuisine, chickpeas and olive oil. It’s a dish that reminds us again of the power of food to connect every version and every iteration of a city into one continuous and beautiful story.
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Today’s guest Lynn describes Maria — just like a glowing fairy come to life: barely five feet tall, vivacious, chatty and outgoing, and as charming as they come.
So imagine this tiny Maria 100 years ago, just a teenager tripping over the cobblestone streets of Budapest, chatting with her friends, then opening an heavy, ornate and entering a cafe -
And quickly, let’s replace our images of a “cafe” - the cafes of 20th century Budapest were grand, glittering spaces. Picture soaring ceilings multiple stories high, crystal chandeliers, marble pillars, rich, heavy window treatments, carved staircases, and waiters in tuxes.
Tucked in the corners were the who’s who of Budapest - poets, intellectuals, and artists.But Maria and her girlfriends were simply there to do their homework — giggling, whispering, and flirting like any teenagers over the clinking of silver spoons against porcelain coffde cups.
Maria, the daughter of a cafe owner herself, knew and loved all the famous cafes - and they loved her. In fact, as family legend has it, she charmed the pastry chefs into sharing their best recipes for tortes and cakes.
A century later, Lynn opened a nondescript box and discovered fifty-two of Maria’s recipes, handwritten in Hungarian. Well — fifty-one of Maria’s recipes. There was one, a simple Walnut Torte, just like what would have been served in those grand cafes, written in English - not by Maria, but by Maria’s daughter-in-law, Janice, who is Lynn’s mother-in-law.
That recipe card from became the basis of the cake Lynn has dubbed “Mother-in-Law Cake” and she shares with us today.
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The Second World War has started and teenage Dolores stands over a small suitcase laying open on her bed in Columbus, Ohio. She slept in this room through her mother’s three years of illness and the tragic night her mother died, when she was just fifteen.
Some nights, Dolores falls asleep quickly after long days of managing school and a home at that tender age. Other nights, she can't sleep, thinking of her handsome fiancé, Bill Wood — a very young man himself, standing on the brink of battle. But tonight, after Dolores tucked a small white New Testament and a white handkerchief on top of her modest clothing and clicked the suitcase closed, she sat down on the bed and looked around the room as if to say goodbye - not to the room, but to her girlhood. For tonight she may not sleep at all, as she cherishes a very secret hope in her heart - the hope that she will return home to this room as a married woman. Because if all goes well on her trip to Washington State, she will marry Bill. He will go to war as a husband, while she waits, prays, and works for Victory Day.
Today, we hear from the youngest daughter of Dolores, who was always a homemaker first, and Bill, a career baker.
Through their many kitchens - her mother's home kitchens and her father's bakeries - Melissa traces her parent's life of steadfast love and deep devotion: to one another, to their God, and to an institution that, at times, threatened to take advantage of that devotion.
And in that crisis, it was Dolores and Bill’s love for one another — steadfast, selfless, and always protective — that preserved their hearts and family.
We start with a recipe in Dolores’s handwriting, but titled “Dad’s Apple Dumplings”. For what God joined together in Washington State more than 80 years ago, Melissa could not separate — not even when choosing a recipe. 🙂
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Let me introduce you to little Maureen — a tiny girl with glossy dark hair and big dark eyes — sitting on the counter of a kitchen on Maple Street, USA. She’s sipping a root beer float, watching the house buzz with cousins, aunts, and uncles, their laughter and teasing filling every corner. The smell of nutmeg drifts through the air; rhubarb simmers in a pot. And at the center of it all stands an older woman — though not nearly as old as you might imagine when you hear the word Grandma — effortlessly making a Lebanese feat for all of them.
Not very many years later at all, little Maureen tiptoes into another kitchen — her own. This time, a young woman — much younger than you might imagine when you hear the word Mother — stands quietly. That same smell of nutmeg fills the air, warm and familiar, but now mingled with something tender, something sad. A handwritten recipe lies open on the counter, its corners soft from years of use. This young mother is making her mother’s favorite cookie, the one everyone calls Grandma’s Best. And though she doesn’t say it aloud, she’s remembering.
Later, little Maureen and this young, beautiful mother sit at the table with their teacups and a single cookie on each napkin. And now, mother does remember out loud. She talks, Maureen listens, and in that quiet moment, Alice’s gentleness passes down another generation to today’s guest, marvelous Maureen, author of the best baking cookbook I've ever used, Lebanese Baking.
Today’s episode is an exploration of grief — and creating as a response to grief - but also a celebration of three generations of highly skilled Lebanese American women who held the highest standards for themselves and the gentlest postures toward others.
This was meant to be an episode about Grandma Alice — and it is. But perhaps nothing would please her more than knowing that, in the end, we couldn’t tell her story without telling her daughter’s and her granddaughter’s. It turns out, it’s all one story.
Through their lives, these cookies, and Maureen’s cookbook, Alice’s spirit, sacrifice and skill continue to shape not just her expansive family, but all of us as well.
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Imagine yourself standing in an English garden, peeking through a small kitchen window into a cozy kitchen. Once you’re close enough, you may even catch the faint strains of Bing Crosby on the radio. A small blonde boy and his sister sit at the table — a blue table, on a blue floor — a surprising color choice, but one that will later make sense when you learn you’re looking into the kitchen of an artist. The little boy and his sister are engrossed in their projects while their Nan takes a loaf out of the oven — and puts another in. Only then do you notice three loaves already cooling on the counter. The old woman says something to the little boy, and his face lights up as he proudly holds out his modeling clay project to his Nan.
This little boy was Sam Harris, who grew up to mirror his Nan in some of the best ways, perhaps more than he even realizes. She owned a business; he’s a serial entrepreneur (and working now on one of my favorite podcasts — more on that later). She was an artist; he is a musician. And she had a gift for making Sam and his cousins feel seen, special, and supported. Speaking personally, I’m in a community where I get to see (and benefit from!) that same gift in Sam today — a thoughtful, humble way of encouraging others.
In today’s episode, we explore all of this through a simple Pineapple Cake — “Sam’s Cake,” as his family called it. The cake was his Nan’s attempt to heal his troubles with food and to instill her old-fashioned values through nurture rather than control.
Most of all, this episode offers a new take — an inversion, if you will — on the old adage “It’s better to give than to receive.”
Sam’s Pineapple Cake tells the story of a family, their matriarch, the values she passed on, and the ways she received the gift of those values in return.
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Picture a sun-drenched courtyard between two homes in Punjab where the air is thick with the aroma of cumin and simmering beans. Farmers work the adjacent fields while women move among each other, peeling onions, chopping tomatoes, and stirring a pot over open flames while sipping steaming hot cups of chai, gossiping and laughing. The children run in playful chaos, long, glossy braids bouncing on their backs as they weave around the women at work. Finally, Rajma Chawal, a hearty, spicy dish of kidney beans, is finished. The farmers return from the fields and children circle their grandmother. Together, they dive with all 5 fingers into their steaming bowls of curry.
This is the scene today’s guest, Lopa, pictures so clearly when she imagines Auntie Aruna as a child back in Punjab, the home Auntie left forever as a young woman.
Lopa and Auntie Aruna didn’t meet until many decades later, when Auntie was in her 60’s. And really, she was Lopa’s landlady, not her relative.
Mind you, she was not a profitable landlady - she made no money whatsoever off Lopa, only charging her enough to cover a rise in HOA fees that she and her husband couldn’t afford.
Auntie was, as Lopa says, a typical Punjabi auntie—boisterous, generous, and fiercely nurturing. She was a teacher, best friend, and grandmother to Lopa. In her Bombay kitchen, Auntie taught Lopa to cook while perched on her pillow-lined barstool directing, gossiping, laughing, just like the woman in that courtyard all those years ago.
Auntie’s Rajma Chawal has become Lopa’s signature dish. In a country with so many distinct culinary identities, this humble dish helped Lopa discover so much more than just confidence in the kitchen - it helped her develop her own voice and a sense of identity and belonging. And more even than that, Rajma Chawal takes Lopa right into the heart of Auntie’s Punjabi culture, the belief that cooking is meant to be shared.
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Imagine a Tennessee dairy farm - and then there’s a cellar with a packed dirt floor and shelves made of wood, heavy with jars of home-canned produce—including the blackberry jam Judith and her sisters smothered on their mother’s famous Sally Lunn bread.
Listening to Judith describe her mother, Joann, I was challenged as a hostess but especially as a mother. I DO love welcoming people into my home and I love cooking for them! Nevertheless, I often grumble when plans interrupt my day or slightly panic if I haven’t had time to prepare the abundant meals I like to serve. It’s my kid’s who see, feel, and often carry my stress, even if my guest’s don’t.
Joann, however—a farmer’s wife who gained seven dependents in the first seven years of her marriage—never seemed rushed, overwhelmed, or frustrated to Judith or her other children. Instead, day after day, she calmly built a life of humble hospitality, generous meals, and deep relationships around a table that, by Judith’s account, was never empty.
Perhaps the secret to her steadiness was her view that hospitality wasn’t about entertaining or perfection—it was simply about welcoming others in. But I suspect it was more than that oft-repeated “secret” - I think it was about her true commitment to friendship. Even now, at 90, Judith’s mother carries the same purpose - to welcome and befriend others - into every new season of life.
For Judith, simple Sally Lunn bread—rich, soft, and baked in a Bundt pan—holds her mother’s legacy of hospitality, of showing up, and providing comfort. Here’s Judith, reflecting on her mother and the bread that tells her story. We begin with the first time Judith’s mother encountered this now-beloved loaf...
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Hello, I’m here on my break from my production break with an episode recorded in the heart of France.
If you remember the last episode, I invited you into the conversation between myself and 4 others in the kitchen of a thousand-year-old château—a space with soaring beams, stone floors, ochre cabinets, and an open fire that made it feel like home. By the time the 5 of us women gathered for that final dinner, we already felt like old friends, bound by shared explorations and lingering conversations over wine. And that brings us to today’s episode.
This conversation unfolds in a small stone house in the nearly deserted village of Champlitte, once a thriving center of the wine trade. My guests are Orane and her father, Pascal—successful vignerons committed to organic, hand-harvested, and artisanally crafted wines. As we talk, we explore the storied history of Champlitte and how this family is shaping its next chapter.
A quick note before we begin: Between the echoing stone walls, the thick French accents, and my fellow guests frequently accepting gracious pours of wine, it was necessary to heavily edit this episode. To help with clarity, I’ll introduce each new topic with a brief summary—signaled by the pop of a wine cork - that way you’ll know what to listen for in the next segment.
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About 100 episodes ago, I interviewed Selina Göldi - and I Introduced her episode by saying, “Selina has this special gift - the ability to transport others to a different time and place. After a career in economics, Selina took this genius and turned it into a life. Beside a river in a very old building in France, she invites those wearied with the pace of the outside world to culinary retreats. During these retreats, Selina teaches her guests to reconnect to not only the food they eat, but also the pleasure of cooking for themselves.”
Fast forward to last spring, I received an email from Selina.
Since our last conversation, she had traded one old place for another - this time a castle, complete with a tower, still on an old river, and with a “fairy tale kitchen” featuring an open fireplace. She was still hosting culinary retreats, along with researching the complete history of the castle she stewards, as she worked to restore the chateau to its former glory.
In her email, she invited me to come stay at the castle, to enjoy her cooking and excellent choices of wine, to relax, create, connect, and learn, all in what she was calling a Creative Retreat with 3 other women. The only stipulation was that we all share whatever we created with each other. And today, I’m sharing a bit of our experience with you as well, by inviting you into a portion of our final dinner conversation.
Imagine us sitting in a large kitchen with stone floors, a vaulted ceiling, surrounded by terra cotta colored walls and ochre cabinets, dim in the firelight. We are gathered around a large wooden table, made intimate with candlelight, enjoying a spectacular meal of Selina’s French Fish Soup with Garlic Aioli. As my friend Ale says in the first few seconds - “It tastes like a poem.”
Pull up a chair and enter in to our conversation about cooking the French way, the memories the soup evokes in all of us, and the ways this enchanting castle affected all of us when we first saw it.
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If you find yourself falling under the spell of the castle, here’s an invitation that Selina has written for you:
Culinary immersion programmes that are time capsule journeys into 19th century life at a French country castle that were run as farming estates.
Experiencing French country life with its local traditions and diving into historic recipes, we learn about the French art of eating well.
It’s less about perfecting a dish and much more about a joyful and playful approach to cooking, learning about food and produce with all our senses.
I invite you to four days of themed excursions, foraging or shopping at the farmers market, cooking and feasting together
You’ll stay at one of the castle tower rooms in an all-inclusive experience limited to small groups with a maximum of six people.
The retreats take place in June, July, August, and September with the last one in the beginning of October
It’s possible to also book as a private group outside scheduled dates OR to book mini versions over weekends that give you a bit of the French approach to eating well. Mini retreats take place in June and in August.
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Hello and Happy New Year!
2025 is a big year for The Storied Recipe.
For starters, I’m expanding my mission to help families create their own heritage cookbooks through a process that is doable, joyful, and even healing. Throughout a December of traveling, then returning home and jumping back into hosting, I continued to work almost every day on both researching and creating materials towards this goal. And beginning January 20th, 4 women are joining me to walk through the process of creating their dream legacy cookbook using the framework and approach that I’m developing.
In the meantime, while I’m expanding the mission of The Storied Recipe in 2025, I’m also returning to my roots and turning my attention back to the podcast.
If you’ve been following for a while, you know that I put the podcast on hold two years ago to focus on my website, turning it into a profitable food blog sharing my guest’s recipes and stories. This was a great move, as it gave me the income to hire an amazing assistant, who in turn has given me the freedom to focus on this new mission.
But the podcast has languished in the last two years. I believe it’s time to take the great concept of my podcast the delight I take in creating it and turn both of those into a polished, consistent, exciting listening and learning experience for all of my listeners in every single episode. It’s time for me to become an expert in the craft of podcasting.
Again, throughout December, I’ve been working on that also by taking a course, doing a lot of reflection - quite uncomfortable reflection, I might add - chatting with other podcasters who are farther along in their journey, and listening to shows that are providing the experience to their listeners that I want to provide to you.
And now it’s time for Phase II - to gather the most important feedback there is, which is feedback from YOU. I know a lot of you see potential in the podcast, you believe in the concept, and you even believe in me - and I want you to have you an opportunity to have a say in the direction of the show going forward.
I’ve opened up a handful of slots in my February calendar to talk to listeners, and I’d love for you to be one of them.
These 30 minute calls will help me get to know more about what you like about the show, what we could do more (or less) of, and how to make this the best show it can possibly be.
It can also be a chance for you to ask me any questions you’ve wondered about while listening
Don’t worry, I’m not trying to sell or pitch you on anything - I don’t even have anything to sell at the moment. I’m just looking to make some genuine connections with listeners of the show.
If you’re open to chatting, just go to the link in the show notes or head to URL.
Seriously, this is one of the most valuable things you can do to support the show.
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Welcome to the second episode in our mini-series on Harvest Festivals Around the World, which I hope to add to in coming years!
Today, we speak with Chase Matthews, from the Eastern Shore of Mobile Bay, Alabama. Along with Tokyo Bay in Japan, these are the only two places in the world where a natural wonder known as the Jubilee occurs. When conditions are just right, fish, crabs, shrimp, and other bottom-dwelling sea creatures rise to the water’s surface in massive numbers, offering an opportunity for easy harvest and an impromptu feast..
But what makes the Jubilee truly special isn’t just the rare days when it actually happens—there in Mobile Bay, just the anticipation of a Jubilee brings an entire community together. Chase shares stories of multiple generations gathering on piers with their fishing poles, friends rushing to the bay after a 2 a.m. phone call, and an entire community bonded by the magic of these awe-inspiring moments that we cannot control, we can only enjoy.
Chase also tells us abou the famous Jubilee Festival in Daphne Alabama, named after this event, where local artists and musicians gather and where he and his wife sell their own locally inspired spice blends.
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Welcome to the first in a pair mini-episodes on Harvest Festivals Around the World! Today, Susan Barocas teaches me about the ancient Jewish harvest festival of Sukkot, from its origins many thousands of years ago right up to this very autumn in Susan’s own backyard in Washington DC.
Sukkot commemorates both the Jewish journey through the wilderness and the harvest season. Each year during this eight-day festival, Susan along with Jewish families all around the world, build and decorate sukkahs—temporary outdoor shelters inspired by those used during the Jews in ancient harvest seasons. Families gather in these sukkahs to share meals, welcome guests (both real and symbolic), and reflect on God’s provision of food, shelter, and divine peace.
Susan also shares about culinary traditions tied to Sukkot, particularly her family’s recipes that came from the Iberian peninsula. Just as she did in her first episode with me, Susan reflects on how food sustained, differentiated, and at times, even betrayed the Jewish people.
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Our story begins with Nick’s memories of Saturday mornings with his cousins, consuming endless stacks of Palacinke, Balkan-style pancakes eaten with cheese or sugar (or both - and don’t knock it until you try it, because I did, and then I had to eat my words. Literally!).
As we trace the makers of Palacinke back through Nick’s lineage, Nick introduces us to his great-grandmother, Baba Saveta, who lived her entire life in the craggy mountains of Montenegro.
Though they never met and only overlapped on this earth by two years, Baba Saveta’s story, character, and expertise have left an indelible mark on Nick. Baba Saveta raised five children in a home hand-built by her husband, who she married in a love match disapproved of by her wealthy family of birth, living through war, hardship, and a century of radical change.
The difference between starvation and survival was the cheese Baba Saveta made twice daily during the summer months in her little mountaintop dairy, scrubbed clean with ashes each spring. Baba Saveta’s skill with cheese has become a particular point of connection for Nick, who now works as a cheesemaker in California. In today’s episode, he shares a great deal about the fascinating process of cheesemaking, particularly from the perspective of Baba Saveta, who did so much with so little.
In moments of daily work—tending his garden, curating cheeses, folding laundry—Nick reflects on this great-grandmother he never met and what she passed on to him. Today, I join Nick in honoring Baba Saveta’s values of self-sufficiency as well as her enduring spirit, wisdom, and love - and I ask, with him, how we can carry her legacy forward.
One note about this episode! Nick’s first shared his story with Alison Kay of Ancestral Kitchen, who was just recently a podcast guest in Episode 179, What Happens After Happily Ever After? Nick submitted this through Alison’s new portal on the Ancestral Kitchen website, where she is collecting memories, documents, recipes, and stories of those who cooked ancestrally. If you have anything to add to this repository, I’m putting the link in the show notes. Thanks so much to Alison for sharing Nick’s story with me - thank you to Nick for his time and this beautiful story - and thank YOU for beig here!
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My great-grandmother Saveta (Sah-vet-a) was born in 1909. She had my maternal grandmother in 1943, in a house with no electricity and water that came from a well a long walk down the road. She came from a well off family, compared to most people in her region of northern Montenegro, and was the first person in our family village to have a cast iron stove and not cook over an open hearth in the middle of the room. It was purchased by her father when she ran off with my great-grandfather Bašo (Basho) to be wed. He had been a worker on her father’s farm, and they had fallen in love.
Baba Saveta was the main character in most of my mother’s stories about her childhood visiting the village. She was a wonder woman. She could spin wool, weave cloth, care for and milk animals, make cheese and other dairy products, cook anything from seemingly nothing, help with butchering and put up the meat, help with the hay and grain harvests, all things my young suburban brain could barely understand a single person knowing. She is surely the reason I found interest in rural living and real food.
We still make some recipes that she did. In spring, we make a spread from soured cream, mashed young cheese curds and finely sliced green onions to eat with hot bread or baked potatoes. Many of my cousins’ favorite way to eat eggs are “Baba’s eggs,” where a pan of salted cream is brought to just scalding, whole eggs are added and the whole lot is gently mixed together over the stove until an unctuous, bright yellow mass forms and is eaten piping hot with chunks of bread, preferably together taken from the pan it was cooked in. As cold weather approaches, we put smoked pork ribs to simmer, and add diced potatoes to the broth along with a roux made flour added to onions fried in lard, enlivened with bright red paprika, and plenty of soured cream to finish. Her potato soup is one of our family’s true comfort foods. My great-grandmother was apparently well known for making savory filo dough pies called pita, filled with either brined cheese and egg or cream and egg. She passed this knowledge down to my grandmother, and while my mother never really learned the art of how to make the paper-thin stretched dough by hand, I was able to convince my grandmother to show me and keep the tradition going, in spite of her wanting to show my girl cousins (all called sisters in Serbian) before showing me, though none showed interest. I like having that connection with Baba Saveta.
Baba Saveta had a little dairy that served as a smokehouse in the winter, and would be scrubbed sparkling clean with ashes in spring when the cows and sheep would come back into milk and dairying would begin for the year. All of the animals would be milked in the morning and evening. The still-warm morning milk was made into full fat cheese immediately. The curd was ladled into cheeseclothes, tied up, and put between boards on sloped tables with pristinely cleaned rocks kept for years for this purposed, probably soaked through with whey and full of friendly bacteria. The resulting thin, pressed curd was sliced into pieces, heavily salted, and put into wooden buckets and barrels made by her husband and would make their own brine to age until needed. The evening milk would be scalded in a large copper kettle, and portioned out into long wooden bowls, similar to American dough troughs or biscuit bowls, hewed by my great-grandfather from logs, to sit overnight to form a thick clotted cream called kajmak (kai-mak) in most of the Balkans, but skorup (sko-roop) in our regional dialect. That could be eaten fresh, or could be salted and packed into containers like the cheese. My mother always cherished memories of Ivandan (Eevahn-dahn), St. John’s Day, on June 24th, when Baba Saveta would make daisy wreaths and put them over all the doors of the different buildings, and would serve the fresh skorup with fresh bread as a treat. This surely had pagan roots from the early Slavs settling the area, and lasted well past the conversion of the Serbs to Eastern Orthodoxy. The skim milk from the production of skorup was made into a cheese called prljo (per-ly-oh). It was a sharp tasting, lean cheese that was stored in hide bags made from carefully skinned lambs. It was a food to keep the wolf at the door at bay, something that could keep starvation away if everything else lovely was long gone from the cellar. Baba Saveta made yogurt, apparently the most sour, mouth puckering and apparently bubbly yogurt ever. Perhaps she let yeasts get into her culture. She would occasionally churn butter in a tall, narrow wooden churn, and would always clarify it. We call clarified butter maslo (mah-slo). Apparently, it was not loved by many of my living relatives as food, as it often was very aged by the time it was on the table in a meal, but Baba Saveta mostly used it in a cure heated and mixed with honey for respiratory issues, and to comb into her hair before washing it. It works wonders to clear lungs and cure coughs, and my family in Montenegro used it for Covid relief in 2020 with rapid results. Interestingly, when I've researched the combination, Indian tradition says that the pairing of ghee and honey is toxic for the body. I find it fascinating how certain cultures will coevolve and agree on some things, and find others things to be complete opposites.
Baba Saveta knew where to gather wild strawberries, blueberries, blackberries, hazelnuts and various herbs for tea. Despite being an ideal spot for foraging mushrooms like chanterelles and porcini, those apparently were never brought into the house. I have heard from other people from our area of Montenegro that they were eaten so much during the war that many people shunned them after. For Slavs, people in Montenegro are often very mycophobic, gathering the mushrooms just to sell to co-ops that sell them to countries like Poland and Russia. She also knew where to get wild apples, pears and juniper. She would make “waters” from these, putting them each into different containers and covering them with water for weeks. She would add some sugar before serving, but they would most likely ferment with the wild yeasts present on the skins. I was very pleased to find a version of the juniper water called “smekra” in Sandor Katz’s book, almost the same as what I was told about our “kleka” (kleh-kah), just a different dialect’s name. The only other non-dairy ferment that I know Baba Saveta made was whole-head sour cabbage for winter.
My great-grandparents bought their flour to make bread from a local mill, but they grew wheat and rye as well, plowing with oxen an
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I’m joined today by Brian Reisinger, an journalist whose deep roots in farming have shaped his life’s mission. Brian is the first male in four generations not to take over his family’s farm, a role taken up by his willing sister. Instead, Brian has devoted his work to shedding light on the immense challenges modern-day farmers face. In his book, Land Rich Cash Poor: My Family's Hope and the Untold Story of the Disappearing American Farmer, Brian shares personal stories of the pressures farm families endure, the generational struggles they face, and the devastating losses that occur when farms are forced to close.
In a country where 85% of dairy farms have disappeared in the last 50 years, food prices are rising, and supply chain issues are increasingly strained to the point of breaking, we can no longer look away, thinking of farms only as a nostalgic bit of Americana. As Brian says, as farms disappear, we’re not just losing food sources—we’re losing a part of ourselves. So what is to be done about this?
After reading Brian’s beautifully written book, which his family agreed should include the breadth of the farming experiences - including the harsh and painful parts - I can say with certainty that Brian, his family, and the larger community of farmers are the best people - the ONLY people - who should answer this question.
From where I sit, Brian’s family is the definition of a functional family. Through their unflinching honesty with each other, courage in making decisions that are the best rather than the most popular, and unwavering support of one another, they exemplify the strength that comes from unity and honesty. It’s these qualities that make Brian and his family uniquely trustworthy guides in navigating the complex problems facing American farmers today. If we can learn to work together with the same transparency, respect, and commitment that they have shown, we can begin to solve these issues not just as individual communities but as a nation.
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There are so many times throughout our history that we’ve made bad decisions for farmers that we didn’t have to make because we felt we were on different sides of a fence.
Almost every American has an image of what a farm is supposed to be… and some live up to that and some don’t.
We face hard truths about farms in America, but we try to take from that, where can we come together.
It’s not a real finicky meat; it’s not too easy to mess up.
When you come from a place where sons do as their fathers did, and you’re the 4th generation, there’s a pressure on you, even if your dad is supportive of you doing something else.
No matter how much distance built between, we always shared hunting and a love of being close to the land.
The stoic farm family IS a thing, but its far more complex than that.
We were very lucky, in my dad, to have a man who could work all day in the wind and the rain, and then still hold a child with a tenderness you couldn’t believe.
I asked my family for permission to share the good and the bad, the happy and the sad… because if we want people to believe in what we do, they have to see the depths of the struggle.
I have tried to make my work be worthy of what my family does. I think farming is the most noble profession.
Anyone who thinks they have a (political) view that solves every problem will meet their match when it comes to farm policy.
Farms have so much support on both sides of the aisle, but there is often such a lack of understanding about the problems facing us.
What are you doing to give farmers new opportunities?
During Covid, you had farmers trying to sell their product and consumers trying to buy it, but the supply chain was locked up. But what we need to do about that is…
If you lose your farm, you lose your home, your community, and your heritage. When you see your herd, it’s like a death in the family. And each generation of the farm family asks, “How can we make it?” There is a generational pressure that builds with each turning of the page.
As we lose farms, our food prices do rise quicker than other prices. We are getting to the point that our food supply is in danger.
When farms are struggling so much, innovation slows because they’re just trying to survive.
We’re losing the farms that feed us but we’re also losing a part of ourselves.
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Brian’s masterful job of presenting the farming dilemma without any political leanings
Brian’s family’s struggle to remain close, honest, and transparent, in the face of terrible hardship and difficult decisions
Adoption, identity, and finding his place on the farm.
Platform communications and helping organizations message.
What is a commodity and why should farmers move away from it?
The way forward for America's farms
Farming, mental health, and suicide
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I’m thrilled to welcome Dr. Mennat-Allah Al Dorry to The Storied Recipe Podcast today. Menna, as she insisted I call her, is an archaeobotanist with a speciality in food and Egyptologist with a speciality in Coptology and the only person in the world to have this combination of qualifications.
If you’re like me, who had never heard of an archaeobotanist before coming across Menna’s @eatlikeanegyptian account on Instagram, I’ve got good news. Menna is also a professor, so she answers all of my basic questions with clarity and good humor.
Dr. Al Dorry begins by sharing a cherished family recipe – a layered dish of potatoes, tomatoes, and meat, slow-cooked to perfection in a clay pot, just as her father used to prepare it with Menna’s help on weekend mornings at their farm in the north of Egypt.
From there, we delve into her fascinating work with “ecofacts”, exploring how - and which - ancient foods have been preserved for thousands of years. Dr. Al Dorry discusses the role of food in daily life for ancient Egyptians and the complex identity of Egyptian cuisine today, why their food traditions are disappearing, and Dr. Al Dorry’s deep commitment to both unearthing Egypt’s ancient food heritage and preserving today’s.
Highlights
“Dee-Nee-Vo” - Her father's one pot meat, potato, and tomato dish renowned among their social circle.
What is an archaeobotanist?
How are ecofacts preserved?
Decorative bread preserved for over 3500 years
Why do people say there is no such thing as Egyptian cuisine?
Halloumi cheese dating back to the 4th century AD
Plants that were grown in Ancient Egypt that are still grown today
The intersection of Egyptology and Coptology.
Quotes
The idea of putting meat and vegetables into a clay pot is the basis of our cuisine.
I don’t work with artifacts; I work with ecofacts.
In Ancient Egypt, we have a lot of food stuffs preserved in tombs.
[In the tombs] we have full heads of garlic perfectly preserved smelling exactly as garlic should.
Food was preserved in the dung which was burned for fuel and then became stable, like charcoal.
Unfortunately, a lot of Egyptians have lost sight of their food heritage.
The variety we got once from the countryside, people have forgotten it. In the big city, you will find always the same 10-15 dishes, many of which have a very recent history.
Most things from my father’s generation will be lost… and this is why it's important to document. I can’t freeze time but I have to document as much as I can.
The word Coptic itself can mean different things and has meant different things at different times in Egyptian history.
I don’t want to talk about kings or Egyptian politics, I just want to talk about everyday people.
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Welcome BACK today to Alison Kay, one of the co-hosts of the Ancestral Kitchen Podcast, who’s here so we can announce a collaboration that I’ll get to in just one minute. 🙂
I learned today that before Alison was the leader of a community intentionally choosing to procure and prepare food in ancestral ways, she was a life coach…
And nothing has ever made more sense than that discovery.
Indeed, in our last episode together, we heard how Alison has gently but resolutely smashed one goal after another in her life, beginning with completely altering her health and body through her relationship with food. We wrapped up our last episode with Alison as she lived her happily ever after as an ex-pat in Italy, cooking spelt sourdough pizza for her husband and child while looking through an enormous picture window at the rolling sunlit hills as far as the eye can see.
But we pick up this episode with Alison, back in the UK, living at her mother-in-law’s house. And here is where Alison proves her fitness for her former career as a life coach. She describes for us today how she lovingly, gently, and still ever so resolutely opened her hands to let go of her own dreams, welcome the dreams of others, and found she had all new dreams of her own, even bigger and better than before.
We talk today about so many of the big things of life - change, love, dreams, and lovingly and supporting our partners through deep conflicting life philosophies.
Finally, Alison will invite you to share your own ancestral food stories through a new portal on her website. As you’ll hear, Alison feels an urgency to gather, curate, and protect the agricultural and culinary wisdom of our foremothers and forefathers.
I feel a similar urgency, as I know that, beyond the practical wisdom for our kitchens, every story she collects will contain lessons of love and resilience. So, while Alison curates this repository of practical knowledge, she will also pass along the information of willing participants (and only willing participants, there are strict privacy laws in the UK) to me, so I might explore and share these legacies with you as well.
With that in mind, I invite you to visit the link to the Ancestral Kitchen website, listed in the show notes - or just go to Ancestral Eatingpodcast.com and you’ll find your way around - see what she’s looking for, and perhaps submit a little (or a long) snippet for her community.
Highlights
Leaving Italy - when, why?
Signing up for communal living with a complete stranger (who is having a baby!)! - What, How, Why!!
The very unique town of Stroud of Gloucestershire.
Anatomy of making a huge decision together as a family
Small business ownership in Italy - why it’s almost impossible and how history has shaped this difficulty
How to make a marriage work between two creatives with wildly different approaches to work and creativity: “done is better than perfect” vs. “I can’t put out sub-par work.”
How to let go of the identity of being different - of being an outsider.
A REFRESH: Ancestral eating - what it means
A collaboration between Alison and I, to record and explore the different aspects of our listener’s food stories
Key Quotes
There was a lot of loss leaving Italy and leaving that dream behind, but a lot of other dreams have come to the fore.
Having this available as an option… and then meeting the lady and seeing the house… and seeing all of my concerns fall away. Everything I was worried about just kind of dissolved while I was there.
You know there will be challenges, but they feel like challenges I would like to grow into, challenges that will make me a better person.
He only started saying he wasn’t happy last than a year ago.
We were paying 50% in tax from the first penny we earned and we weren’t allowed to claim any write-offs.
I remember looking at them and just thinking, “I am so in love with these two”, and just feeling SO vulnerable.
As it became clear that Rob wasn’t happy to be in Italy, I began to feel - if he wasn’t happy, then I wasn’t happy.
We don’t want a dream to escape from reality - we want to reshape our reality
The most I actualize the things I want to do, the more I let go of things.
It’s almost like I’ve always worn a badge saying, “I do things differently.”
I miss in person friendship and I sabotage it sometimes by always insisting I’m different.
I have no culinary history and I feel a loss and it's part of the reason I’m doing the work I do. Throughout history, this has been passed on from mother to daughter and I can feel this is missing in my life…. And where it still exists, it is a beautiful thing and should be cherished.
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In this episode, I’m joined by Neil Hudson, Co-founder of Scotch Boyz, a brand that’s brought authentic Jamaican flavors to the mainstream American market - and far beyond, as well.
I initially liked this story of 4 childhood friends coming together to build an international business, all while pouring back into the communities that raised them and Jamaican farms that produce their ingredients. I mean, what’s not to love about that story!?
But just a little ways into our conversation, I grew to like and respect Neil for his own thoughtful insights into business and working with friends, his obvious interest in others, and his understated sense of humor.
We begin by discussing, Curry Goat, a dish not only ubiquitous across Jamaica but also the signature dish made at The Hummingbird, a restaurant owned and operated by Neil’s father. I’m very grateful to Neil and his father for sharing this famous recipe with us, as well as to Neil for the many tips and history lessons he provided about other famous Jamaican dishes, like Jerk and White Rum.
As the interview goes on, Neil opens up about their branding strategy, the innovative and thoughtful business strategies they’ve used to create strong partnerships with Jamaican farms and buy-in from employees, and finally he shares the fun and exciting story of the HUGE win that allowed their small business to “escape gravity” and skyrocket into the global brand they are now.
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Highlights
“Nine night” a send-off party after a funeral, where you must have White Rum, Goat Soup, Curry Goat, and White Rice
The story of jerk - runaway slaves who made a treaty with the British…
Pimento = Allspice; a discussion
Best sources for goat in the U.S.
Tips for making the best jerk around (hint: includes an air fryer!)
The story of the 4 founders of Scotch Boyz - and what each brings to the company
How the Scotch Bonnet Pepper got its name!
The branding, strategy, and positioning to get Jamaican products into the mainstream aisle next to household condiment brands
How the Jamaican community benefits from the growth of Scotch Boyz
Neil’s profit-sharing approach to Scotch Boyz and how he arrived at that approach.
The farms and farmers who source the Scotch Boyz ingredients
Winning the Next Black Millionaire Award and how Scotch Boyz “escaped gravity” with the 100,000 award
Maintaining friendship in a business
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Today’s guests came to my very favorite way - they were recommended by a listener!
Megan responded to one of my weekly newsletters, writing,
There is a couple at my church, Jah and Frances, from Liberia, who are an inspiration. They are so hospitable and care well for their family...their house always is full of people.. Additionally, their house is a revolving door...they care for elderly relatives, young relatives and basically anyone who needs help. Once a year they sell food to raise money for a school in Liberia. When they cook for the fundraiser, Jah mans his smoker through the night. Frances has a "famous" potato salad.
In today’s episode, Frances and Jah shared their love story with us, a great deal about the history of Liberia, including a civil war 30 years ago, that decimated the country, and they hope they find in supporting the Betty Memorial Institute, a boarding school in one of the poorest regions of the country. Here’s what they have to say about the school:
Currently BMI has more than 200 students and is served by 17 staff members who work tirelessly to provide an education, food and housing in one of the poorest counties in Liberia.
The Betty Memorial Institute (BMI) is the only grade school in Western Liberia that provides both Academic and Vocational Education between the ninth and 12th grades.
You’ll hear the inspiring story of how this school was started and what it’s accomplished, as well as details about the 3 day cook-a-thon Frances and Jah commit to every December to raise money for the school. And, of course, you’ll hear details about Frances’s famous potato salad. And while many claim to the best, and I’ve tried a LOT of potato salad recipes, this one was unanimously voted by all 6 members of my family to be the best they’ve ever had.
Welcome again to Frances and Jah. Thank you to Megan for recommending them! If YOU’D like to recommend anyone for the podcast, I’d love to hear from you at becky @ thestoriedrecipe.com. And finally, thank you for being here to hear Frances and Jah’s wholesome, uplifting story!!!!
Highlights
Their 46 year love story
Childhood in Rabblesport, Liberia
Liberia: A history lesson
The Military Coup in 1981 and civil war 10 years later: Why it happend and what it did
Jah’s school experience and why it made him passionate about supporting
The incredible story of the family who started a boarding school in Liberia
The Scholarship in Frances’s mother’s name
A car accident that changed Frances’ life
The 3 day cook-a-thon to raise money for this boarding school
50 chickens, 50 racks of ribs, 200 servings of potato salad, and so much more. How they do it, what they’ve learned to outsource
Frances’s Famous potato salad! The jobs and the keys to flavor!!
Success stories from the school
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