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The Land Podcast - The Pursuit of Land Ownership and Investing
The Land Podcast - The Pursuit of Land Ownership and Investing
Author: Jake Hofer
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The Land Podcast is a platform for people looking to educate themselves in the world of land. If you're interested in the pursuit of land ownership, land investing, staying up to date with current land trends in the Midwest, and hearing from industry experts and professionals, then you're in the right place! Join Illinois licensed real estate broker Jake Hofer on his land journey and learn from some of the best in the land business along the way.
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Welcome to the land podcast, a platform for people looking to educate themselves in the world of land ownership, land investing, staying up to date with current land trends in the Midwest, and hearing from industry experts and professionals.
On today's episode, we are back in the studio with Skip Sligh.
We discuss:- Skip explains why owning more acres still leaves plenty of work to grow and hold mature bucks.- Jake asks what softer prices and higher borrowing costs mean for Midwest recreational land buyers.- Skip explains why he looks at southeast Iowa farms other buyers passed over after EHD.- Skip describes improving food plots and timber while a local deer herd recovers.- Skip recalls losing access to his uncle’s place and saving for a down payment as a kid.- Skip explains how he buys farms he can improve and rolls the proceeds into the next property.- Skip tells Jake why he sold his paid-off truck to cover an early farm payment.- Skip explains why some landowners put up high fences when deer keep getting shot next door.- Skip uses interior food plots, CRP browse and timber work to give deer more reasons to stay.- Skip explains why he started speaking up about hunting regulations and access for younger hunters.
And so much more!
Chapters:0:00 Why Skip looks at farms hit by EHD1:08 Skip’s family buck and what acreage buys you9:39 What Jake and Skip are seeing in the land market12:20 Buying after an EHD die-off20:03 Does the buyer have the edge?28:08 How Skip got started buying farms33:09 Turning farm improvements into the next purchase50:45 Selling his truck to make the farm payment54:34 How do you keep more bucks alive through the season?59:04 Why some landowners put up high fences1:09:52 Interior food plots and keeping deer on the farm1:22:50 Why Skip speaks up about hunting regulations
Thanks again for all of the support from our partners—none of this would've been possible without them!
- Buck Land Funding: https://www.firstbankers.com/bucklandfunding-Hawke Optics | Use Code WHTL for 15% off: https://bit.ly/hawkeoptics_-OnX: https://bit.ly/onX_Hunt-Painted Arrow: bit.ly/PaintedArrow- Latitude Outdoors: https://www.latitudeoutdoors.com/- Use code 'HOFER' to save 10% off at www.theprairiefarm.com- Massive potential tax savings: ASMLABS.Net
Welcome to the land podcast, a platform for people looking to educate themselves in the world of land ownership, land investing, staying up to date with current land trends in the Midwest, and hearing from industry experts and professionals.
On today’s episode, we are back in the studio with Shan Twit.
We discuss:- Shan closes on 170 acres on the Kentucky River in Woodford County with his dad and father-in-law in January 2026.- Shan and his dad each buy out one of two Seattle partners for a third, with no bank and no financing.- Shan pays for his share with money he set aside 50 and 100 bucks at a time for 22 years.- Shan explains why Kentucky’s one-buck rule beat Tennessee’s three tags and Wisconsin’s wolves and draw waits.- Shan says you can fix habitat, plots, water and screening, but never the “deer is mine” mindset next door.- Shan’s most common shortfall is a canopy too mature to grow browse, which makes up 80% of what deer eat.- Shan says to kill bush honeysuckle and other invasives before you ever open up the canopy.- Shan weighs the veneer oaks on his steep north slope against the turkey roosts they provide.- Shan sets off 90-second military smoke grenades at every stand because the wind apps are often wrong.- Shan says it takes three years to really know a farm, and small parcels leave almost no room for error.
And so much more!
Chapters:0:00 Intro1:11 Who is Shan Twit? Palmer grad to Team 200 cameraman6:42 170 acres on the Kentucky River and the workshop dream9:25 Jake’s head tilt: what a chiropractor actually fixes11:45 Why he waited to buy, and why Kentucky over Wisconsin20:33 What you can and can’t fix on a hunting farm24:34 Preserving the family farm: the partner buyout27:39 Where most farms fall short: canopy, roads, neighbors31:03 The $100,000 walnut: cut it or keep it?35:27 The 2027 punch list: honeysuckle, soil tests, lime41:22 Stand access, smoke grenades and three years to know a farm49:58 Off-season scouting and small-parcel room for error54:45 The March 13 workshop and what onX can’t show you
Thanks again for all of the support from our partners—none of this would’ve been possible without them!
- Buck Land Funding: https://www.firstbankers.com/bucklandfunding-Hawke Optics | Use Code WHTL for 15% off: https://bit.ly/hawkeoptics_-OnX: https://bit.ly/onX_Hunt-Painted Arrow: bit.ly/PaintedArrow- Latitude Outdoors: https://www.latitudeoutdoors.com/- Use code ‘HOFER’ to save 10% off at www.theprairiefarm.com- Massive potential tax savings: ASMLABS.Net
Welcome to the land podcast, a platform for people looking to educate themselves in the world of land ownership, land investing, staying up to date with current land trends in the Midwest, and hearing from industry experts and professionals.
On today's episode, we are back in the studio with Abe Aryan.
We discuss:- Abe explains why food plots, screening and quiet access can make hunting-land buyers stretch their budgets.- Abe explains how his family's commercial real estate deals shape his approach to hunting-land ownership.- Abe weighs direct seller negotiations and financing costs before committing to recreational ground.- Abe describes how grazing changed a Nebraska lease and helped push him toward owning his hunting land.- Abe recounts a Kansas auction that led to a first purchase of roughly 864 acres near Bow Creek.- Abe recounts buying his first three farms using satellite maps and trusted people on the ground.- Abe includes interest, taxes and agent fees when calculating whether a property protects his downside.- Abe learns why a local farmer's 400-acre field gets priority over his three-acre food plot.- Abe buys his own tractor and no-till drill, then uses courses and AI to learn food-plot planting.- Abe introduces Modern Woodsman and its approach to combining buck history, weather and property data.
And so much more!
Chapters:0:00 Why hunting-land buyers stretch their budgets1:09 Meet Abe Aryan6:02 Family real estate lessons and financing14:26 Improvements that help a hunting farm sell23:19 From a Nebraska lease to land ownership29:09 Budgets, deer access and fixer-upper farms30:48 The Kansas auction and buying three farms43:13 Protecting the downside and using a land agent50:50 Food-plot mistakes and buying his own equipment55:30 Learning habitat management with courses and AI1:01:07 Modern Woodsman and trail-camera data
Thanks again for all of the support from our partners—none of this would've been possible without them!
- Buck Land Funding: https://www.firstbankers.com/bucklandfunding-Hawke Optics | Use Code WHTL for 15% off: https://bit.ly/hawkeoptics_-OnX: https://bit.ly/onX_Hunt-Painted Arrow: bit.ly/PaintedArrow- Latitude Outdoors: https://www.latitudeoutdoors.com/- Use code 'HOFER' to save 10% off at www.theprairiefarm.com- Massive potential tax savings: ASMLABS.Net
Welcome to the land podcast, a platform for people looking to educate themselves in the world of land ownership, land investing, staying up to date with current land trends in the Midwest, and hearing from industry experts and professionals.
On today’s episode, we are back in the studio with Jack Huston.
We discuss:- Jack says you need close to 2,000 acres to control your own destiny, so the neighborhood decides most farms.- Jack explains why 80 acres next to 700 unhunted acres can beat 500 acres with seven people around you.- Jack calls the lone 500-acre owner doing all the habitat work his least favorite setup: it becomes the doe factory.- Jack warns buyers against limiting themselves to one county or insisting on road frontage for access.- Jack says fruit trees and directional fencing don’t move the needle like TSI, herd control and a good neighborhood.- Jack shares his own results: 120 does and 300 acres of TSI in four years, and about 25% more mature bucks.- Jack explains why Kansas, northern Wisconsin and the U.P. may not need doe harvest, with coyotes doing that job.- Jack’s drone detection systems show Ohio flights running about ten times what he sees anywhere else.- Jack counts roughly 25 genuinely good small farms, about 2,500 acres, in his half-million-acre county.- Jack and Jake go rapid fire on big acreage, creek bottoms, CRP, standing corn and owning land next to public.
And so much more!
Chapters:0:00 Buy 40 acres, hunt the 2,000 around you2:50 The farms people regret buying9:30 Red flags from the air: the lone manager’s doe factory12:00 What buyers overvalue: one county, road frontage, poaching14:46 When a farm has hit its ceiling16:14 Is shooting does and TSI worth it? Jack’s 120-doe results22:17 Shooting does on 40 and 80 acres, and where not to28:30 Drone detection: why Ohio’s flights run 10x36:12 How rare is a really good farm?42:55 Regional genetics: Kansas bodies, Oklahoma racks49:10 Sanctuaries vs. habitat quality53:23 Rapid fire: overrated or underrated?
Thanks again for all of the support from our partners—none of this would’ve been possible without them!
- Buck Land Funding: https://www.firstbankers.com/bucklandfunding-Hawke Optics | Use Code WHTL for 15% off: https://bit.ly/hawkeoptics_-OnX: https://bit.ly/onX_Hunt-Painted Arrow: bit.ly/PaintedArrow- Latitude Outdoors: https://www.latitudeoutdoors.com/- Use code ‘HOFER’ to save 10% off at www.theprairiefarm.com- Massive potential tax savings: ASMLABS.Net
Welcome to the land podcast, a platform for people looking to educate themselves in the world of land ownership, land investing, staying up to date with current land trends in the Midwest, and hearing from industry experts and professionals.
On today's episode, we are back in the studio with Connor Lokar.
We discuss:
- Connor sizes up the economy as "three yards and a cloud of dust," with industrial production at a 4.5-year high.
- Connor explains why new homes, autos, and boats and RVs are struggling with rates and a glut of used COVID inventory.
- Connor expects to see a mortgage rate starting with an 8 or 9 before one that starts with a 4 or 5.
- Connor explains why a Fed rate cut can lower prime for land loans while mortgage rates climb with the 10-year.
- Connor blames government debt and money printing for what land, mortgages and credit cards cost today.
- Connor tells younger buyers that cash beyond three months of expenses "should be poison" with inflation where it is.
- Connor recommends a one-to-two-year farm emergency fund and agreeing on an exit line with your spouse ahead of time.
- Connor says carrying land debt is fine, but not stacked on an 84-month truck loan and a home equity line.
- Connor lays out ITR's call for a five-year "great depression" from about 2030 to 2035, with stocks down 40-45%.
- Connor explains how data centers turned a client's $40 million warehouse into a $60 million one in 24 months.
And so much more!
Chapters:
0:00 An economist's odds on a 2030s Great Depression
0:53 How's the economy right now?
3:03 Where the economy is weak: housing, autos, boats and RVs
8:59 Where interest rates are headed next
13:43 Prime vs. mortgage rates, explained
21:15 Is now a good time to buy land?
29:42 The farm economy and future land supply
35:13 What could trigger a big drop in land values
38:20 Farm emergency funds and land as an inflation hedge
43:36 Carrying debt on land, and the '80s farm crisis
49:05 ITR's forecast for a 2030s Great Depression
55:00 Data centers and the cost of building
1:00:30 How likely is it, and where to follow Connor
Thanks again for all of the support from our partners—none of this would've been possible without them!
- Buck Land Funding: https://www.firstbankers.com/bucklandfunding
-Hawke Optics | Use Code WHTL for 15% off: https://bit.ly/hawkeoptics_
-OnX: https://bit.ly/onX_Hunt
-Painted Arrow: bit.ly/PaintedArrow
- Latitude Outdoors: https://www.latitudeoutdoors.com/
- Use code 'HOFER' to save 10% off at www.theprairiefarm.com
- Massive potential tax savings: ASMLABS.Net


