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Now headed into its fourth season, The Faith, Work & Rest Podcast highlights stories of ordinary people of faith doing ordinary work for the glory of God and good of their communities.
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In this episode, Bijan Mirtolooi helps us explore how the city of London is experiencing spiritual renewal and religious curiosity giving Christians an incredible opportunity to winsomely declare good news. In his work as a pastor of Reality Church London and The London Project, Bijan has an ardent desire to equip ministry leaders and everyday disciples to see their work as an integral part of their discipleship to Jesus. Yet also to understand that from the first pages of Scripture, God is one who always pairs work with rest and invites us to the same. Would we pray alongside him to see the Church in London steward this incredible moment in history for the city to rejoice because Jesus has been put on display through the unified witness of God’s people. Resources related to this episode: Learn more about Bijan’s church Reality Church London: https://www.realitychurch.london/ Learn more about The London Project: https://thelondonproject.co.uk/ Learn more about Gotham Fellowship: https://www.faithandworkgotham.com/ Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network https://www.surgenetwork.com Timestamps (Edited Timing) 00:00 Introduction 01:09 How Bijan and his family decided to move to London 4:40 Stories of how London is growing in openness to religion and spirituality 11:42 What is the London Project and how it is facilitating a faith and work movement 15:36 How Lesslie Newbigin in the 1970s encouraged churches to equip every member of their Church when it comes to their daily work 18:39 How Bijan has seen people live creatively and faithfully in their industries 22:14 How rest is integral to discipleship 28:50 Where do you see God uniquely put on display in London and how can we pray for London?
Our guest on the podcast today is Christel Ngnambi, the consultant CEO for Imago Dei, which is a network of professionals seeking to ask questions and seek answers to the biggest challenges of their industry and discover how Christianity might offer good news in that area of human life. In the episode, Christel showcases how the increasing secularization in francophone (french speaking) culture is ultimately not an obstacle to the Christian witness but a genuine opportunity. Yet, he suggests, there is power when Christians begin with the questions, concerns, and fears of the people and industries where they find themselves and then egnage those questions deeply with Scripture. In other words, as Christel says, we need to listen to the world around us as we engage the Word. Listen in as Christel shares tangible ways Imago Dei has provided pathways for non-Christians to experience a distinct, culturally relevant, and winsome Christian witness. Resources related to this episode: Learn more about Christel’s work with Imago Dei https://www.imagodei.fr Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network https://www.surgenetwork.com Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 2:25 How Christel partnered to start Imago Dei and their work within many industries 5:35 What the word “francophone” means and how faith and work is unique in the French-speaking world. 14:20 How we must start first with the questions of the context to explore how the gospel is good news there 19:28 How the fashion industry is a case study for listening and speaking the gospel in relevant ways 24:05 How non-Christians are becoming curious about Christianity through the arts 31:12 What are the next questions coming in Western culture and ways Christians can seek to be a renewing presence in the face of them? 36:05 What is one characteristic of God as a worker that you see reflected in your city and how can we pray for you and your context?
In this episode, we are privileged to hear Pastor Mila Palozzi share, with joy and vibrancy, how the gospel gives us a lens to see beauty everywhere in our city and through our work. She shares practical ways she has cultivated a faith and work perspective in her local church through a variety of avenues that hopefully will encourage and inspire you in your context. Mila challenges those in her culture- and us- to not see work as a necessary curse but rather to see work as the unique contribution we get to make for our city and ultimately for the Kingdom of God. We hope Mila’s gospel radiance inspires you to imagine afresh the city and work God has placed you in. Resources related to this episode: Learn more about Mila’s church: https://www.hopera.co/scopri-la-fede Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network https://www.surgenetwork.com Timestamps 00:00 Podcast Introduction 01:43 The work and life of Mila Palozzi as a pastor in Rome 3:36 How Mila’s previous career in banking drew her into the faith and work space 7:47 How Mila pursues four main avenues to help people capture a vision of faith and work in her church 14:00 How Mila started new communities around variety of subjects 17:40 How Mila has experienced the depth of the gospel in her city 26:27 What is an aspect of God that you see on display in Rome and how can we pray for the church in Italy?
In this episode, Teena is joined by Amma Amegashie who serves as the West Africa Operations Manager for City to City Africa. She currently leads the Purpose Beyond Paycheck cohort in Accra, Ghana. Amma loves the Lord, loves the city which she lives in, and hopes to see the city, its people and all the industries being renewed by the gospel of Jesus Christ. She lives in the city of Accra with her beloved husband, Selasi, and enjoys reading, listening to music and watching God's beautiful nature. What is clear from this conversation is that Amma resists any form of a truncated gospel that compartmentalizes the Christian life to a single day of the week. The cohort she leads works to imagine what a Kingdom presence might look and taste like in various spheres of society and work. Would you be encouraged by her words to us: “If your identity is truly in Christ Jesus, it doesn’t matter if you are the CEO or the least in rank. You don’t find your identity in any of this but you find your identity in Christ Jesus and what he has done on the cross. That he deeply loves you, and we are his children.” TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Introduction and Amma’s Bio 1:40 Where Amma lives and works 4:33 How an episode of the Faith and Work podcast helped Amma re-imagine administration 7:56 What drew Amma into the Faith and Work space 11:25 What is the church like in Ghana? 14:41 How Amma has helped people experience a gospel for all of life 20:30 How insurance can be for the glory of God 26:40 Where do you see brokenness in the industries of your city and how God longs to restore 33:40 How visiting a cookie factory changed one person’s perspective on work 37:40 If you had to pick just one characteristic as a worker that you see on display in your city, what would it be? How can we be praying for the church in Ghana? Resources related to this episode: Learn more about the Ghana Fellowship of Evangelical Students https://ghafes.org/who-we-are/ Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network https://www.surgenetwork.com/
In this podcast episode, Teena Dare gets to have a conversation with Marcelo Robles who lives in Buenos Aires and is a pastor, practitioner, and key participant in the movement of God in his city. What’s clear from the interview is that Marcelo captures the vision perfectly of seeing our everyday work and our understanding of our faith deeply integrated in all of life. But he didn’t always share this vision. Listen in as Marcelo unpacks how was able to deconstruct the false dichotomy of sacred and secular through his work at a university, in his ministry, through personal challenges, and a myriad of church planting experiences. The Church has much to learn from this faithful brother who encourages us to remember our one calling in the gospel with many occupational expressions. Resources related to this episode: More Info About Marcelo Robles and his ministry https://globaloutreach.org/giving/missionary-details/marcelo-robles About La Misión Church https://iplamision.org/sobre-nosotros/ About the RUE University Network https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1037300417189588 Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative here. https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/about Learn more about the Surge Network here https://www.surgenetwork.com Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and Marcello’s bio 1:49 Where Marcello lives, serves and does for work 2:53 How the city of Buenos Aires is unique and an expression of a variety of cultures and cities 4:50 Why we need to stop using the term: bi-vocational and instead use: “co-occupational” 13:12 Why we need a holistic and integrated gospel for all of life 16:30 Stories of how God is at work in the university 22:45 How one person’s proximity with the poor forever changed his life 29:30 How God is displayed as a worker in Buenos Aires and how you and I can pray for Buenos Aires
When it comes to the integration of faith and work, it is never generic but always specific to the context we are in. The conversations around faith and work in a white collar setting are going to be drastically different than the conversations and questions of those working at the margins. In this episode, Abraham Cho and Kimberly Deckel explore how tangible expressions of how faith and work have been integrated in their cities and churches. But what’s clear from the perspective of these two practitioners (Abraham and Kimberly) is that a missing link in the faith and work conversation is the necessity of having mutuality with those at the margins. Without genuine friendship with the overlooked and the poor, we will lack the necessary relational knowledge needed to steward our power effectively in industries and workplaces. Listen in as we imagine together in this podcast what flourishing for all might look like when the margins are centered. RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE Learn more about City to City's Global Faith and Work Initiative: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com Learn more about Kimberly’s Church: Church of the Cross Austin https://www.cotcaustin.org Learn more about the Surge Network https://www.surgenetwork.com TIME STAMPS Introduction to the series and Bios 00:00 In the faith and work space, what has your work been about in recent years? 2:05 How the conversation of faith and work is different depending on your context and invites you to take the posture of a learner 5:30 How the simple and ordinary practices in our workplaces are the catalyst for a rich expression for faith and work integration 9:40 How different traditions (that we are often unaware of) can provide beautiful windows of tangible ways faith and work can come together 13:50 How the only way to faithfully steward our power is through developing a mutuality of relationship with those at the margins 23:57 How a vision of genuine friendship and Kingdom collaboration is being imagined in New York City and Austin, Texas 34:08 How do we understand God as a good worker in the way he operates in our cities and prayers we have for flourishing in the years to come 44:06
There’s no question that we’re called to love our neighbor but many of us feel like we’ve lost the art. We’re burnt-out, lacking motivation, or feeling overwhelmed with life. In this episode Brielle shares her own story and helps unpack why so many of us are feeling this strain. She invites us to join her on the journey of healing through being with God in ways that restore us to love just as we were made to. Resources related to this episode: Learn about the Daily Breadth App: https://dailybreadth.app/default Listen to Brielle’s Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-little-bit-unstoppable/id1620112094 Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative here: www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network here: www.surgenetwork.com/ This episode was produced by Abby Drachenberg and hosted by Teena Dare. Timestamps: Introduction to Knowing God in Work and Rest and Brielle Goheen: 0:00 How did physical and mental health struggles begin to reframe spirituality and vocation? 3:02 How did you discover a new calling? 7:47 How do you now understand the embodied nature of things like prayer and gratitude and how have you incorporated them into a "digital sacred space?" 11:55 How can we love our neighbor without burning out? 18:21 What is the "tend or befriend" survival instinct and how does it impact us? 23:54 How do we embrace the uniqueness of how we best love others? 27:56 How can we cultivate love through our work when the part we play is removed from the people it's meant to serve? 31:51 Tell us about someone whose work is often overlooked and how your journey has helped you see them with new eyes? 35:10
What does it mean to see? Our understanding of this seemingly simple concept has evolved through the years and so has our sense of what it means to “see” God. In this episode, Dr. John DelHousaye talks about optical theory, the pure in heart seeing God, how truth relates to reality, and how all of this intersects with our daily rhythms of work and rest. Resources related to this episode: Follow Dr. DelHousaye on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jdelhousaye?lang=en Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative here: www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network here: www.surgenetwork.com/ This episode was produced by Abby Drachenberg and hosted by Teena Dare. Timestamps: Introduction to Knowing God in Work and Rest and Dr. John DelHousaye 0:00 How can we know God through the Visio Dei? 1:19 What is a fuller understanding of the word truth? 11:08 How can work be a lens for us in our everyday lives? 17:37 Explaining the value of spending time in the Gospels 22:33 How we can connect communion and baptism to everyday life 26:53 How can we participate in making God more seeable in the world? 30:27 How does God help you see someone the world may overlook? 35:31
In this episode Bjorn Wagner and Teena Dare unpack the concept of habitus. The workplace is one of the subcultures that shape our habits which slowly train us to feel, think and act in certain ways. Björn invites us to grow in awareness of opportunities to be reformed into the likeness of Christ in our work and rest. Resources related to this episode: French sociologist, Pierre Bourdieu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Bourdieu Book: The Power of Habit https://www.amazon.com/Power-Habit-What-Life-Business/dp/081298160X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+power+of+habit&qid=1679586785&sr=8-1 To connect with Björn, find him on Instagram at: bjoernlarswagner or email him at bjoernlwagner@gmail.com Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative here: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network here: https://www.surgenetwork.com/ This episode was produced by Abby Drachenberg, and hosted by Teena Dare. Timestamps Introduction to Knowing God in Work and Rest and Björn Wagner 0:00 Introducing habitus 1:31 Why is this concept important for us? 10:45 How does invisible culture shape our visible habits? 16:26 Give us an example of this for our everyday 20:09 Do we have any power to change the habitus in our workplace? 26:36 Small actions that can bear witness in big ways 30:05 Tell us about someone whose work is often overlooked that you see with new vision 38:10
In this episode we get to hear from both Missy Wallace and Blake Schwarz about two spiritual practices that help nourish their intimacy with God. Missy shares about her first (and ongoing) practice of taking “silent days” with God and how it carves out space to hear from and deeply commune with Him. Blake tells us about his weekly practice of fasting and how his understanding of its formative power has evolved through the years. Resources related to this episode: On practicing Silence: Article: https://redeemercitytocity.com/articles-stories/a-day-of-silence Central Commons: https://www.centralcommons.org/ Gotham Fellowship: https://www.faithandworkgotham.com/ On Fasting: Celebration of Discipline Book: https://www.amazon.com/Celebration-Discipline-Special-Anniversary-Spiritual/dp/0062803883/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3TDWD8WVEV3L3&keywords=celebration+of+discipline+by+richard+foster&qid=1681417458&sprefix=celebration+of+discipl%2Caps%2C1110&sr=8-1 Practices of Love Book: https://www.amazon.com/Practices-Love-Spiritual-Disciplines-World-ebook/dp/B01N10VZKQ?ref_=ast_author_mpb Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative here: www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network here: www.surgenetwork.com/ This episode was produced by Abby Drachenberg, and hosted by Teena Dare. Timestamps: Introduction to Knowing God in Work and Rest Missy Wallace and Blake Schwarz 0:00 Where do you see the need for us to press into God’s presence at work? 1:33 What did it feel like going into the day of silence? 6:09 How often do you practice days of silence? 17:01 Tell us about someone whose work reflects Christ to you 19:28 Can you explain the concept of Central Commons? 21:51 What are the initial buds of fruit? 24:08 How has fasting helped you commune with God in your work and life? 29:15
Many of us struggle to find the space to deeply engage with God. When we do, it is often removed from the rhythms of our everyday life. Denise Daniels offers us a vision for weaving spiritual disciplines right into the rhythms of our daily work and rest to help us live before the face of God. She draws from the insightful book that she co-authored, Working in the Presence of God, to present us with creative and timely ideas about how we can regularly connect with God throughout our workdays. Resources mentioned: Working in the Presence of God: Book https://www.amazon.com/Working-Presence-God-Spiritual-Practices/dp/1683072227/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MQ456MCT3ILC&keywords=working+in+the+presence+of+god+spiritual+practices+for+everyday+work&qid=1680044122&sprefix=working+in+the+pres%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-1 Practices for Working in the Presence of God: Guided Journal https://www.amazon.com/Practices-Working-Presence-God-Journal/dp/1683074041/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1MQ456MCT3ILC&keywords=working+in+the+presence+of+god+spiritual+practices+for+everyday+work&qid=1680044077&sprefix=working+in+the+pres%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-4 Film Series: Faith and Co. https://faithandco.spu.edu/ Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative here: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network here: https://www.surgenetwork.com/ Timestamps: Introduction to Knowing God in Work and Rest and Dr. Denise Daniels 0:00 How Denise found her way in the Faith and Work space 2:00 What is the “third-way” of becoming attentive to God at work? 6:28 Why is it important to evaluate our current rhythms before adding new ones? 11:31 How to practice Surrendering the Calendar 17:16 How to practice gratitude and lament in the workplace 20:49 What is the Prayer of Examen and how can we apply it to our lives? 26:07 Tell us about someone whose work is often overlooked that reflects Christ to you? 34:50 This episode was produced by Abby Drachenberg and hosted by Teena Dare.
We are beginning a new 6-part series called Knowing God in Work & Rest. In a world saturated in consumerism that is always looking to extract something from us, we have a God who longs to be with us and wants us to enjoy being in his presence. Strahan Coleman shares a vision for beholding prayer that leads to a life saturated in the presence of God. He shares from his new book, Beholding, about his journey into a life of beholding and how it can powerfully reshape how we work and rest. Resources related to this episode: Strahan’s book: Beholding https://a.co/d/43HNEje Strahan’s website: Commoner’s Communion https://www.commonerscommunion.com/ Strahan's podcast: Commoner's Communion Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commoners-communion-podcast/id1320670549 Learn more about The Global Faith and Work Initiative here: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com/ Learn more about the Surge Network here: https://www.surgenetwork.com/ Timestamps: Introduction to Knowing God in Work and Rest and Strahan Coleman 0:00 How has consumerism shaped our relationship with God? 8:36 God's invitation to closeness with Him 14:02 How beholding God transforms the way we love others in our daily life 19:59 How did a prolonged season of suffering shape how you relate to God? 23:19 How small disciplines of love can make us more like Christ in our daily work 27:43 How the mystery of the Eucharist reshapes how we engage the mundane 36:18 Tell us about someone whose work is often overlooked that reflects Christ to you? 42:17 This episode was produced by Abby Drachenberg and hosted by Teena Dare.
In this episode, Teena talks with Charity Maurer, Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer at Pursue Whole, about her passion for business and living in the tension of pursuing this calling alongside motherhood. She shares her story of stumbling upon her passion for business through her pursuit of art and how letting go of one dream opened her up to what came next. Websites mentioned in this episode: https://pursuewhole.com/
Welcome to Surge’s Faith, Work, and Rest podcast. Our goal is to help God’s people discern their vocations and reimagine their occupations for the good of their neighbors and the glory of God. In this episode, Teena talks with Erik Averill, co-founder of AWM Capital, about a fuller vision for stewarding the resources that God has entrusted us with to pursue flourishing in the world. Websites mentioned in this podcast: https://awmcap.com/
Welcome to Surge’s Faith, Work, and Rest podcast. Our goal is to help God’s people discern their vocations and reimagine their occupations for the good of their neighbors and the glory of God. In this episode, Teena talks with Steve Teng about serving the Church at work through supporting workplace fellowships and empowering underserved entrepreneurs. Quote 1: Business owner: We had never heard that what we do Monday to Friday matters to God. And then we heard, and such a weight was lifted. Quote 2: The emphasis is really to get a broader set of Christians to step into the truth that God is already with them in their work. We want them to do excellent work, meet with other believers and pray and love each other. And then discern together what God is already doing at their work. Websites mentioned: https://www.kingdomcapitalnetwork.org/ https://www.pivotleadership.org/
Welcome to Surge’s Faith, Work, and Rest podcast. Our goal is to help God’s people discern their vocations and reimagine their occupations for the good of their neighbors and the glory of God. In this episode, we listen to a conversation between Teena Dare and Michael Ly about the challenge of being an entrepreneur in today's context. Michael Ly is an entrepreneur, speaker, father, husband and follower of Jesus. He is CEO & Founder of Reconciled, an online accounting firm for entrepreneurs and small business owners, as well as co-founder of Humnly & PunchPay. Launched in 2015, Reconciled has been recognized in the accounting industry by industry leaders like Intuit as a “Firm of the Future” in both 2016 & 2018, 2019 Minority Business of the Year by the Vermont SBA, and made both the Inc. 5000 list and Sun Devil 100 in 2022. Michael has spoken at Intuit’s Quickbooks Connect conference multiple times, as well as other accounting and small business conferences. https://michaelly.co/ Page for the entrepreneurs group: https://www.surgenetwork.com/entrepreneurs
Welcome to Surge’s Faith, Work, and Rest podcast. Our goal is to help God’s people discern their vocations and reimagine their occupations for the good of their neighbors and the glory of God. How do we know what God has called us to do? What cultural blinders do we have that may prevent us from being faithful to our calling? In this episode, we listen to a conversation between Teena Dare and Dr. Susan Maros about the importance of considering our cultural context when trying to discern our calling. Dr. Maros is a professor of Christian Leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary and author of the book "Context and Calling."
Welcome to Surge’s Faith, Work, and Rest podcast. Our goal is to help God’s people discern their vocations and reimagine their occupations for the good of their neighbors and the glory of God. In this episode, we listen to a conversation between Teena Dare and Kristina & Sean Barr about avoiding the pull of the busyness of life in order to treasure that thing you can't buy more of -- time.
89: Big Table - Serving Hope Welcome to Surge’s Faith, Work, and Rest podcast. Our goal is to help God’s people discern their vocations and reimagine their occupations for the good of their neighbors and the glory of God. In this episode, we listen to a conversation between Teena Dare and Jen Seger and Kevin Finch from Big Table as they discuss their work of caring for those who serve the rest of us through the hospitality industry. We hear about their calling to care for those in crisis, build relationships and invite the overlooked to the table to experience the abundant grace of God through food and drink. https://big-table.com/
Welcome to Surge’s Faith, Work, and Rest podcast. Our goal is to help God’s people discern their vocations and reimagine their occupations for the good of their neighbors and the glory of God. In this episode, we listen to a second conversation between Teena Dare and Satyan Devadoss as they continue to explore the unseen ways in which math and technology affect and shape both us and our world. satyandevadoss.org/
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