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The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
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On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe and Kelly talk with Shannon Joseph about her recent paper for CGAI "Waiting for Canada to 'Build, Baby, Build'".
Discussed in the podcast:
- https://www.cgai.ca/pp_waiting_for_canada_to_build_baby_build
- https://financialpost.com/opinion/opinion-the-budget-is-done-start-building-baby
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Guest Bio:
- Shannon Joseph is Chair of Energy for a Secure Future and a Fellow with CGAI
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendation:
- "A Tale Of Two Cities", by Charles Dickens: https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/a-tale-of-two-cities/9780141439600.html
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Interview recording Date: December 12, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Julia Bentley and Phil Calvert to discuss the intricacies of Taiwan and China.
Thank you to everyone who donated to us this Giving Tuesday, an important day for registered charities like the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. If you wish to support us, please click the link here: www.cgai.ca/support
All donations will receive a 100% CRA charitable donation tax receipt. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
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Participants' bios
- Julia Bentley is Distinguished Fellow at the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada
- Phil Calvert is a CGAI Fellow, former Canadian diplomat and Senior Fellow at the University of Alberta and Associate at the University of Victoria Center for Asia Pacific Initiatives.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Reimagining China Studies: Taiwan as a Platform for Engaging with the Sinosphere" by Julia Bentley
- "The Once and Future World Order: Why Global Civilization Will Survive the Decline of the West" by Amitav Acharya
- "The Book of Swindles: Selections from a Late Ming Collection" translated by Christopher Rea and Bruce Rusk
- "There are Rivers in the Sky" by Elif Shafak
- "The Conscience of the Party" by Robert L. Suettinger
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: December 10, 2025
Release date:
December 15, 2025
In this episode of Defence Deconstructed, we’re featuring a fireside chat from our November 27th 2025 conference, Creating Pan-Domain Continental Defence, with Secretary of State (Defence Procurement), The Honourable Stephen Fuhr.
Thank you the Department of National Defence’s MINDS program and all our sponsors who made the conference, and this episode, possible.
We’d also like to thank everyone who donated to the Institute on Giving Tuesday, your support is incredibly important in helping us deliver our programming.
If you didn’t have a chance to donate, but still want to support the Institute or podcast, you can still do so through the support link on our website – if you do before the end of the year you’ll be eligible for a 100% CRA charitable donation tax credit for 2025.
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Guest bios:
- The Honourable Stephen Fuhr is the Secretary of State (Defence Procurement).
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Host bio:
- David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
12 December 2025
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Sofie Lilli Stoffel to discuss her latest study, "When Your Ally Turns Narcissistic: A Self-Help Manual for Europe Navigating Transatlantic Relations".
Thank you to everyone who donated to us this Giving Tuesday, an important day for registered charities like the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. If you wish to support us, please click the link here: www.cgai.ca/support
All donations will receive a 100% CRA charitable donation tax receipt. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
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Participants' bios
Sofie Lilli Stoffel is a research fellow with the Global Public Policy Institute in Berlin.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "When Your Ally Turns Narcissistic: A Self-Help Manual for Europe Navigating Transatlantic Relations" by Sofie Lilli Stoffel and Phillip Yorck Herzberg
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: December 10, 2025
Release date:
December 11, 2025
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe and Kelly talk with Monica Gattinger about recently released polling from Positive Energy and Nanos Research about shifting Canadian attitudes toward growing international energy exports and the shifts resulting from the Canada-Alberta MoU.
Polls discussed:
- https://www.uottawa.ca/research-innovation/positive-energy/publications/canadians-most-likely-rank-energy-sector-greatest-potential-expand-exports-non-us-destinations-want
- https://www.uottawa.ca/research-innovation/positive-energy/publications/agreement-canada-should-expand-oil-gas-exports-strengthen-global-energy-security-highest-tracking?mc_cid=e78a4a0391&mc_eid=5b3baac0fe
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Guest Bio:
- Monica Gattinger is Chair of Positive Energy at the University of Ottawa and a Fellow with CGAI
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendation:
- "Flesh: A Novel", by David Szalay: https://www.amazon.ca/Flesh-David-Szalay/dp/198212279X
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Interview recording Date: December 9, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.
In this episode of Defence Deconstructed, we’re featuring a panel discussion from our November 27th 2025 conference Creating Pan-Domain Continental Defence, that was focused on “Integrated Air and Missile Defence”. It featuring CGAI Fellows Col (ret’d) Dr. Al Stephenson, Peter Bates and Dr. James Fergusson, as well as Peggy Mason, the President of the Rideau Institute.
Thank you the Department of National Defence’s MINDS program and all our sponsors who made the conference, and this episode, possible.
We’d also like to thank everyone who donated to the Institute on Giving Tuesday, your support is incredibly important in helping us deliver our programming.
If you didn’t have a chance to donate, but still want to support the Institute or podcast, you can still do so through the support link on our website – if you do before the end of the year you’ll be eligible for a 100% CRA charitable donation tax credit for 2025.
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Guest bios:
- Peter Bates is a CGAI Fellow and a retired veteran Canadian Foreign Service Officer.
- Dr. James Fergusson is a CGAI Fellow and Professor Emeritus in the Department of Political Studies, and Deputy Director of the Centre for Defence and Security Studies.
- Peggy Mason is the President of the Rideau Institute
- Col (ret’d) Dr. Al Stephenson is a CGAI Fellow and is an aviation consultant and a 35-year veteran of the Canadian Forces.
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Host bio:
- David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
05 December 2025
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe and Kelly talk with Jack Mintz about the competitiveness implications of the Canada-Alberta MoU for oil CCUS and export, in relation to his recent article for the Financial Post: https://financialpost.com/opinion/jack-mintz-alberta-getting-pipeline-or-sold-pipe-dream
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For the intro segment, Kelly and Joe discuss the impacts of American and Ukrainian moves to curtail Russian oil export.
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Guest Bio:
- Jack Mintz is an accomplished Canadian economist with affiliations with the University of Calgary, the CD Howe Institute, and the MacDonald Laurier Institute
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Hitler's People: The Faces of the Third Reich", by Richard Evans: https://www.amazon.ca/Hitlers-People-Faces-Third-Reich/dp/0593296427
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Interview recording Date: December 3, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Raymond Blake to discuss his latest success, Canada's Prime Ministers and the Shaping of a National Identity.
This coming Tuesday, 2nd December, is Giving Tuesday, an important day for registered charities like the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. If you wish to support us, please click the link here: www.cgai.ca/support
All donations will receive a 100% CRA charitable donation tax receipt. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
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Participants' bios
Raymond Blake is an author and Professor of History at the University of Regina.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Canada's Prime Ministers and the Shaping of a National Identity" by Raymond Blake
Ballots and Brawls by Patrice Dutil
- "The Coutts Diaries" by Ron Graham
- "Times of Transformation" by Barbara J. Messamore
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: November 24, 2025
Release date:
December 01, 2025
In this episode of Defence Deconstructed, we sit down with Dr. Julie Kim, to discuss her new paper, “From Intelligence Gathering to Financial Gain: Countering DPRK Cyber Operations.”.
This coming Tuesday, 2nd December, is Giving Tuesday, an important day for registered charities like the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. If you wish to support us, please click the link here: https://www.cgai.ca/support
All donations will receive a 100% CRA charitable donation tax receipt. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
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Guest bios:
Dr. Julie Kim is a Post-Doctoral Fellow leading the Korea Program at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and a Country Expert on North Korea for the Bertelsmann Transformation Index.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "Autocracy Inc" by Anne Applebaum
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
26 November 2025
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe and Kelly talk with Andrew Rae
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For the intro segment, Kelly and Joe discuss the MoU between Alberta and the Federal Government, energy and development in Africa, and the risks surrounding American military action in Venezuela.
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Guest Bio:
- Andrew Rae is a retired maritime pilot with decades of experience with maritime risks and hazards
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Interview recording Date: November 20, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Ken Frankel and Eric Miller to discuss the latest paper from the Canadian Council for the Americas paper, "Beyond the Build: A New Canadian Strategy for Latin America and the Caribbean".
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Participants' bios
- Ken Frankel is president of the Canadian Council for the Americas.
- Eric Miller is a CGAI Fellow and President and CEO of Rideau Potomac
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Beyond the Build: A New Canadian Strategy for Latin America and the Caribbean" by the Canadian Council for the Americas
- "There Are Rivers In The Sky" by Elif Shafak
- "King of Kings" by Scott Anderson
- "Frank" by Barney Frank
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: November 17, 2025
Release date:
November 24, 2025
In this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry sits down with Dr. Paul Mitchell, to discuss professional military education in Canada, looking at the current state of student preparation in the CAF, the hiring of the department with the budgetary expansion and Canada’s unique approach to military education.
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Guest bios:
Dr. Paul Mitchell is the Deputy Chair of the Department of Military Plans and Operations at the Canadian Forces College
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "The Expanse" series by James S. A. Corey
- "A Two-Edged Sword" by Nicholas Tracy
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
21 November 2025
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, we feature the audio from three segments from the CGAI Energy Security Forum Conference, "Canada's Next Chapter in the Indo-Pacific", featuring Hafiz Zubir of PETRONAS Canada, David Nikolejsin of McCarthy Tetrault, and Mark Maki of the Trans Mountain Corporation.
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Guest Bio:
- Hafiz Zubir is Chief Executive Officer of PETRONAS Canada
- David Nikolejsin is Strategic Advisor at McCarthy Tetrault and former Govt of British Columbia Deputy Minister
- Mark Maki is Chief Executive Officer of Trans Mountain Corporation
- Monica Gattinger is a CGAI Fellow and Chair of Positive Energy at the University of Ottawa
- Rory Johnston is a CGAI Fellow and Founder of Commodity Context
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Interview recording Date: October 28, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with John Meehan to discuss his recently released book, "Chrétien and the World", co-edited with Jack Cunningham.
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Participants' bios
John Meehan is director of the Bill Graham Centre for Contemporary International History at the University of Toronto’s Trinity College, an affiliated faculty at the Munk School and a Senior Fellow of Massey College.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Chrétien and the World" by Jack Cunningham and John Meehan
- "Beaver and The Dragon" by Charles Burton
- "The Coutts Diaries" by Ron Graham
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: November 17, 2025
Release date:
November 17, 2025
In this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry sits down with with Philippe Lagassé, to further discuss the new budget and reflecting on the government's direction so far on defence policy and some of the initial parts of the forthcoming Defence Industrial Strategy.
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Guest bios:
Philippe Lagassé is a CGAI Fellow and an associate professor and Barton Chair at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, Carleton University.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "A New Blueprint for Government" by Kevin G. Lynch and James R. Mitchell
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
14 November 2025
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, we feature the audio from two segments from the CGAI Energy Security Forum Conference, "Canada's Next Chapter in the Indo-Pacific", featuring MP Ellis Ross and the Institute of Energy Economics, Japan's Jun Nishizawa.
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For the podcast's intro section, Joe and Kelly discuss some of the key line items in the Budget with implications for Canadian energy infrastructure and the Major Projects Office.
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Guest Bio:
- Ellis Ross is MP for Skeena—Bulkley Valley and former Elected Chief Councilor of Haisla Nation
- Jun Nishizawa is Visiting Fellow, Institute of Energy Economics, Japan
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Interview recording Date: October 28, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Ann Fitz-Gerald, Ben Rowswell, Guy St. Jacques, Thomas J. Timmins and Don McCutchan to discuss their takeaways from the 2025 Ditchley Conference.
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Participants' bios
- Ann Fitz-Gerald is a Professor of International Security and the Director of the Balsillie School of International Affairs in Waterloo, Canada
- Ben Rowswell is a Principal with Catalyze4. He served as Ambassador to Venezuela and was an early architect of digital diplomacy in Global Affairs Canada
- Guy St. Jacques is former Canadian Ambassador to China and Fellow at the China Institute of the University of Alberta
- Thomas J. Timmins is the Leader of Gowling WLG's Canadian Energy Practice
Don McCutchan is Partner and Policy Advisor with Gowling WLG
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "The AI-Driven Leader: Harnessing AI to Make Faster, Smarter Decisions" by Geoff Woods
- "Does the Elephant Dance?: Contemporary Indian Foreign Policy" by David Malone
- "King of Kings" by Scott Anderson
- "Sun Tzu's The Art of War Plus Its Amazing Secrets: The Keys to Strategy" by Sun Tau
- "A School for Tomorrow" by Mark Dickinson
- "How to Win an Information War" by Peter Pomerantsev
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: November 03, 2025
Release date:
November 10, 2025
In this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry sits down with Charlotte Duval-Lantoine to breakdown the new Carney budget and its implications for defence.
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Guest bios:
Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is Vice President Ottawa Office at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "The Kingdom of Fantasy (Geronimo Stilton and the Kingdom of Fantasy #1)" by Geronimo Stilton
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
7 November 2025
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, we feature the audio from a panel focusing on the view from the Indo-Pacific on energy needs in the region and Canada's role from the CGAI Energy Security Forum Conference, "Canada's Next Chapter in the Indo-Pacific".
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For the podcast's intro section, Joe and Kelly discuss the Budget's Climate Competitiveness Strategy, oil prices, and Exxon vs. Europe.
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Guest Bio:
- H.E. Dr. Shazelina Z. Abidin is the High Commissioner of Malaysia
- Mr. Hideaki Ishii is Deputy Head of Mission, Embassy of Japan in Canada
- Dr. Quynh Tran is Chief Trade Representative of Vietnam to Canada
- Ms. Hejin Kim is Minister-Counsellor of the Embassy of the Republic of Korea to Canada
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Interview recording Date: October 28, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits Rosann Runte, Valerie La Traverse and Maggie Gorman Velez to discuss the intricacies of science and innovation diplomacy.
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Participants' bios
- Rosann Runt is Vice President, Corporate Affairs at the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada
- Valerie La Traverse is President of Runte Associates and previously served as President of the Canada Foundation for Innovation
- Maggie Gorman Velez is is Vice President, Strategy, Regions and Policy for the International Development Research Centre (IDRC)
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Think Again" by Adam Grant
- "Shared Prosperity in a Fractured World: A New Economics for the Middle Class, the Global Poor, and Our Climate" by Dani Rodrik
- "Collapse" by Jared Diamond
- "Canadians Who Innovate: The Trailblazers and Ideas that Are Changing the World" by Roseann Runte
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: October 31, 2025
Release date:
November 03, 2025










Uncharacteristically bad episode.