New York City Bar Association Podcast

Today we delve into the intricate world of AI assessment, review and audit methodologies, focusing on international frameworks and regulatory approaches. The discussion features experts from the City Bar Presidential Task Force on Artificial Intelligence and Digital Technologies, including Azish Filabi (American College McGuire Center for Ethics and Financial Services), Rim Belaoud (Forensic Risk Alliance), Nikhil Aggarwal (Deloitte Anti Money-Laundering), Lenka Molins (Oxford Internet Institute) and Jerome Walker (Task Force Co-Chair). They explore the definitions, methodologies, and challenges of AI audits across different jurisdictions such as the US, EU, Canada, and the UK, providing perspectives on issues related to methodologies, bias, transparency, and accountability. The episode also covers practical approaches for organizations to review AI models and highlights the importance of robust AI governance in various sectors, including financial services, AML, CFT, fraud, and export controls. 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:50 Overview of AI Assessments, Reviews, and Audits 02:20 Key Definitions and Concepts in AI 05:44 Panelist Introductions 08:39 Discussion on Responsible and Trustworthy AI 18:33 Training AI Models and Explainability 22:33 Challenges in AI Assessments and Reviews 27:09 Global Perspectives on AI Audits 39:10 Practical Approaches for AI Model Reviews 53:57 Key Skills for AI Model Audits 59:27 Introduction and Areas of Practice 01:01:31 AI in Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorist Financing 01:07:36 AI Models in Fraud Detection 01:14:41 Export Control on AI Models 01:21:35 International AI Audit Methodologies 01:27:42 Challenges in AI Audits 01:42:10 Accountability in AI Audits 01:46:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The Presidential Task Force on AI and Digital Technologies welcomes you to Wexford, a fictional city that has purchased AI-enabled law enforcement tools with a black box provision from a tech vendor. Task Force member Elizabeth Daitz moderates a discussion on the complexities of AI usage in criminal investigations and prosecution. Panelists Christian Quinn, Andrew Warshawer, Jerome Greco, and the Honorable Paul Grimm provide insightful perspectives on the significance of the black box provision, ethical and legal implications, and the need for transparency and coordination among stakeholders to ensure these tools are used effectively and justly in the criminal justice system. 00:00 Introductions 02:18 Fictional Case Study: Sentinel AI in Law Enforcement 03:31 Regulatory Landscape and Challenges 05:50 Bias and Explainability in AI 12:19 AI in Law Enforcement 18:01 Legal Implications of AI in Prosecution 35:52 Defense Perspective on AI Evidence 43:54 Challenging Unverifiable Evidence 46:57 Litigation Strategy and Expert Witnesses 49:00 Economic Barriers in Defense Technology 53:33 Judicial Perspectives on AI Evidence 01:13:53 Key Takeaways and Leadership in AI 01:22:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Dana Lennon and Lori Nuckolls, co-chairs of the Subcommittee on Digital Technology Issues for Nonprofits, host an informative discussion on the use of digital assets in nonprofit organizations. Joined by subcommittee members Laura Angel Lalanne and John Bennett, alongside nonprofit leaders Kevin Scally and Zach Bronstein, they delve into different types of digital assets, their benefits for nonprofits, real-world applications, and the associated governance and legal considerations. The discussion includes practical advice on implementing digital asset strategies, addressing risk, ensuring transparency, and complying with emerging regulations and legislation. Laura Angel-Lalanne is a Partner at Schulte Roth; John Bennett is a Senior Counsel at Simpson Thacher; Dana Lennon is the Director of Divisional Operations at Catholic Charities Community Services Archdiocese of New York; Lori Nuckols is a Public Policy Researcher; Zack Bronstein is Chief Operating Officer at Endaoment; and Kevin Scally is Deputy Chief Development Officer for Doctors without Border. Want to further explore the latest developments in financial technology and associated regulatory changes? Join us at the City Bar’s upcoming FinTech Conference on September 9. (This program will be available on-demand thereafter.) Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming programs and events. 01:24 Understanding Digital Assets for Nonprofits 03:31 Kevin Scaly on Doctors Without Borders 05:52 Zach Bronstein on Endaoment 12:16 Implementing Digital Asset Strategies 18:35 Board Approval and Policy Considerations 24:57 Nonprofit Security Measures and Asset Management 29:28 Donor Information and Anonymity 33:07 Governance and Legal Considerations 44:04 Advice for Nonprofits on Digital Assets

What are the economics of the metaverse? Is your privacy safe when you make a financial transaction? What new scams and cons are criminals developing in the world of virtual reality? Flora Lau leads a cohort from the City Bar Presidential Task Force on Artificial Intelligence and Digital Technologies – Terry Dugan, Sabeena Ahmed Liconte, Alex Southwell, Irene Byhovsky, Clark Abrams, and Adam Scott Wandt – in a discussion covering regulatory implications, privacy concerns, national security issues, and cybersecurity challenges. They share detailed analysis, use cases, and potential solutions to ensure a balance between innovation and regulation, while also considering the broader implications for privacy and security. They also touch on the importance of regulatory sandboxes and future technologies that may reshape our digital interactions. Want to learn more about developing standards and best-practices for emerging technologies? Join us at the City Bar’s upcoming FinTech Conference on September 9. (This program will be available on-demand thereafter.) Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming programs and events. 01:07 Defining the Metaverse 02:52 Economic Aspects of the Metaverse 05:20 Financial Activities in the Metaverse 14:33 Regulatory Considerations for Financial Institutions 36:36 Privacy and Data Concerns in the Metaverse 51:25 Child Privacy and Financial Risks in the Metaverse 52:25 Global Perspective on Metaverse Adoption 54:13 Recommendations for Metaverse Platforms on Privacy 56:36 Challenges of Age Verification and Regulation 01:00:06 National Security Concerns in the Metaverse 01:00:51 Money Laundering and Financial Crimes in the Metaverse 01:17:40 Cybersecurity in the Metaverse 01:31:34 Future of the Metaverse and Regulatory Considerations 01:39:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Attorney and bioethicist Karolina Zhukoff sits down with Dr. Jonathan Moreno, Professor Emeritus at the University of Pennsylvania, to discuss his new book, “Absolutely Essential: Bioethics and the Rules-Based International Order.” They delve into the historical development of bioethics since its emergence post-World War II, focusing on the evolution of doctor-patient relationships and the significant influence of the Nuremberg Code. The conversation also covers the ways in which Dr. Moreno’s upbringing inspired his work, the global impact of COVID-19 on bioethics, and the challenges posed to the international rules-based order by geopolitical shifts and emerging technologies. 00:00 Introduction 01:33 The Essence of Bioethics 04:20 Historical Context of Bioethics 08:04 Personal Influences on Dr. Moreno 11:09 Global Perspectives on Medical Ethics 21:11 Impact of COVID-19 on Bioethics 27:23 Future Challenges and Emerging Technologies 32:55 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Scott Sholder is a prominent New York litigator representing clients across the entertainment and media industries on copyright matters. He is currently counsel to world famous authors in a copyright class action litigation concerning the unauthorized use of literary works for generative AI “training.” He also chairs the Copyright & Literary Property Committee’s A.I. Subcommittee whose mission is to keep tabs and stay current on the latest developments at the intersection of copyright law and generative A.I. Presented by the New York City Bar Copyright and Literary Property Committee and hosted by Theodora Fleurant and Jose Landivar, we discuss the latest developments in copyright law and artificial intelligence, discuss how taekwondo and power metal have shaped Scott’s practice, and what it takes to be a high-performing litigator in 2025. Scott J. Sholder is co-chair of the Litigation Group at Cowan, DeBaets, Abrahams & Sheppard LLP, one of the premier law firms in media and entertainment. A frequent writer and speaker on copyright and trademark issues, Scott has been recognized by Variety as “a thought leader in the artificial intelligence space as it relates to entertainment.” He was also featured in The Hollywood Reporter’s 2024 “Power Lawyers” list. (The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect those of any organizations, employers, or affiliates they may be associated with. This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended to provide legal or professional advice.) Selected Links from the Episode: New York City Copyright & Literary Property Committee: https://www.nycbar.org/committees/copyright-literary-property-committee Copyright Claims Board: https://ccb.gov/ Red Rising by Pierce Brown: https://www.amazon.com/Red-Rising-Pierce-Brown/dp/034553980X Ghost, “Mary On A Cross”: https://open.spotify.com/track/2wBnZdVWa5jVpvYRfGU7rP?si=511c7ba7d3df4e21 Unleash the Archers,”Northwest Passage” https://open.spotify.com/track/3Fiz4tFoVBosOUm2uMgdlL?si=8af4660100604e89

The Mindfulness and Wellbeing in the Law Committee returns to the airwaves to give you the lawyer’s perspective on the healing power of music. Scott Mason, Nancy Batterman and Kathryn Schneider explore the mindfulness practices inherent to musical artistry, and the way that those practices can inform a life in the law. Nancy and Kathy share their personal journeys in the City Bar Chorus and the strong sense of community they have built there. The episode gives a new framing for some of the challenging aspects of the legal profession, like performing under pressure and navigating a proclivity for perfectionism. We close with a guided meditation and a poem by Rumi, emphasizing the spiritual and emotional dimensions of engaging with music. Kathryn Schneider is the Musical Director of the New York City Bar Chorus, which is giving two public concerts (with identical setlists) in June 2025 at the House of the Association showcasing musical theater and film selections, including from Sweeney Todd, Encanto, Kinky Boots, The Greatest Showman and Wicked, as well as inventive arrangements of songs by artists ranging from Billy Joel to Bruno Mars, Billie Eilish to Beyoncé, and more. Donations at the door will benefit the City Bar Fund and the Chorus. RSVP for the concerts at: June 26, 2025: https://services.nycbar.org/EventDetail?EventKey=CHOR062625 June 27, 2025: https://services.nycbar.org/EventDetail?EventKey=CHOR062725 02:29 Mindfulness and Music: The Connection 04:03 The Impact of Singing and Music on Wellbeing 08:13 The Role of Community in Music and Law 13:57 The New York City Bar Chorus: History and Personal Journeys 19:26 The Healing Power of Music and Performance 35:08 Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts 38:36 Guided Meditation for Performance Preparation

A new City Bar report (https://bit.ly/3FURuAi) from the Presidential Task Force on Artificial Intelligence and Digital Technology highlights the harmful effects of artificial intelligence (AI) on people with disabilities, and the harm likely to occur for them in the future. The Task Force’s  Subcommittee on the Impact of Artificial Intelligence on People with Disabilities and Underserved Communities continues the conversation in this podcast episode featuring attorneys, researchers, and technology leaders. They talk about the current challenges and opportunities AI presents for people with disabilities, emphasizing the importance of inclusive design and representation. Want to be part of the discussion? Register for the City Bar’s Artificial Intelligence Institute on June 16 (available on-demand thereafter): https://services.nycbar.org/AIInstitute/ Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming CLE programs and events as well as on-demand CLE content. 03:06 Overview of AI's Impact on Disabilities 04:44 Building a Disability Inclusive AI Ecosystem 09:08 Generative AI and Representational Harms 15:54 AI in Digital Accessibility: Test Party's Mission 19:39 Challenges and Legal Perspectives on AI and Disabilities 35:26 Inclusive Design and Evaluation in AI 44:54 Final Thoughts and Future Directions

The City Bar Presidential Task Force on AI and digital technologies hosts this discussion on AI governance in the financial sector. Azish Filabi (American College McGuire Center for Ethics and Financial Services) moderates with Muyiwa Odeniyide (Nasdaq), Adam Marchuck (Citi), Jordan Romanoff (BNY Mellon), Stuart Levi (Skadden Arps), and Corey Goldstein (Paul Weiss). They share best practices for integrating AI governance and the specific risks associated with third-party AI vendors, underscoring the importance of cross-functional collaboration and continuous learning for lawyers navigating the rapidly changing AI environment. Want to learn more about AI governance in the financial sector? Register for the City Bar’s Artificial Intelligence Institute on June 16 (available on-demand thereafter): https://services.nycbar.org/AIInstitute/ Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming CLE programs and events as well as on-demand CLE content. 01:08 AI Ethics and Financial Services 02:37 Current State of AI Law and Regulation 13:33 AI Use Cases in Financial Companies 16:50 AI Risk and Governance Considerations 18:45 Legal Perspectives on AI Risk 28:44 AI Governance in Financial Services 37:28 The Role of AI Lawyers 42:56 Balancing Innovation and Risk

Every day, New Yorkers are involuntarily committed to hospitals and mental health facilities for psychiatric treatment. But what happens when a patient wishes to be released from a hospital or refuses medication? In this podcast, we are joined by Hon. W. Frank Perry to discuss Mental Hygiene Proceedings, a little-known area of the law designed to resolve disputes between mental health patients and the facilities responsible for treating them. In this discussion, Judge Perry describes his transition from a Supreme Court Justice in the General Assignment Part to his current role as the sole Judge presiding over Mental Hygiene Proceedings throughout New York County. This open and honest conversation explores Judge Perry’s experience with helping people at their most vulnerable moments, the tension between protecting individual rights of patients and ensuring that they are not a threat to themselves or others, and the procedure for carrying this out. We hope that this discussion can shed some light on a legal process that affects thousands of New Yorkers every year. Want to learn more about practice in New York’s mental hygiene courts? You can access the City Bar’s on-demand CLE program "Better Served by Treatment": Practicing in the Mental Health Courts 101: https://bit.ly/452oUXY Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming CLE programs and events as well as on-demand CLE content.

Sara Walsh and Elizabeth Pyjov discuss the critical role of compassion in the legal field. Elizabeth shares her extensive background in compassion training, her experiences living in diverse cultures, and how these shaped her understanding of human suffering. Together, they delve into the definitions and science of compassion, the eternal role of the arts in processing suffering, and practical ways to cultivate compassion. They emphasize that a compassionate approach can significantly improve lawyers' well-being and their professional interactions, ultimately leading to a more just and thriving society. If you’re interested in incorporating mindfulness and well-being into your practice, join the Mindfulness and Well-Being in Law Committee for a Mindfulness Break, Yoga for Lawyers, or its next Book Club. More information about the committee and its upcoming events is available here. 02:09 Elizabeth's Journey: From Literature to Law 07:16 Defining Compassion in the Legal Profession 07:32 The Science Behind Compassion 14:12 Compassion vs. Common Misconceptions 17:24 The Role of Compassion in Legal Practice 19:15 Cultivating Compassion and Self-Compassion 27:12 The Impact of Compassion on Lawyers and Society 28:41 Final Thoughts and Call to Action 34:18 Closing Remarks and Additional Resources

Today the City Bar Podcast brings you an episode from its sister show, Building Belonging, a podcast of the City Bar's Office for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging. Building Belonging is launching a new season that brings listeners into the heartfelt, uncertain, messy, hopeful discussions that capture the work of DEIB on the ground as the landscape shifts and changes. In the first episode of Building Belonging season two, ODIEB dives deep into the fundamental question: What is DEI really? With the haters circling and pushback in full force, a lot of people are returning to this question to understand how to move justice forward. The team explores their individual journeys into DEI and what it means to them. As Eli puts it, this conversation seeks to address 'what DEI is, what it is not, where it is going, and who our allies are,' clearing up misconceptions and providing a nuanced understanding of essential concepts. Tanya highlights the innate human essence of DEI, saying, 'At its core, it is one of the most innate and human things that we have.' Angie drives home the practical importance of DEI: 'It's everything that makes the world more accessible to everyone.' By offering their personal insights and discussing the broader significance of DEI, the team aims to inspire listeners to open their eyes to new opportunities and get involved in this transformative work. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO THE BUILDING BELONGING PODCAST IF YOU ENJOYED THIS EPISODE!!!!

Microsoft is mobilizing generative artificial intelligence technology to address the access to justice gap in the United States. In partnership with the Northwest Immigrants Rights Project (NWIRP), they have built a collaborative initiative, ‘LUZ,’ to streamline and scale the DACA renewal process for Dreamers. The City Bar Presidential Task Force on AI and Digital Technology’s Ray Brescia hosts Malou Chávez, Executive Director of the Northwest Immigrants Rights Project (NWIRP), and Microsoft’s Global Pro Bono Manager Adrian Palma and UX/UI designer Amae Kurre to talk about the access to justice gap that inspired the project, the role of tech in making legal services more efficient, and the essential nature of human oversight in AI-driven legal processes. Want to learn more about how AI and digital technology are being mobilized to close the digital divide in access to justice? You can access the City Bar’s Artificial Intelligence Institute on demand: https://bit.ly/4j3lCYQ Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming CLE programs and events as well as on-demand CLE content. 01:19 The Evolution of Legal Technology 01:55 Introduction of ChatGPT and Generative AI 03:17 The Impact of AI on Legal Services 03:45 Microsoft's Pro Bono Initiative: LUZ 05:02 Challenges Faced by NWIRP 07:50 The Role of Technology in Legal Clinics 13:28 The Development and Design of LUZ 24:48 Human Oversight and AI Integration 26:26 Scaling the Initiative and Future Prospects 42:48 Addressing Concerns and Ensuring Security 48:28 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

In this episode of Mindful Lawyering we explore the emotional, mental, and physical toll of caregiver roles, particularly in the legal profession, and share practical strategies for managing stress — including seeking support, realigning priorities, and practicing self-compassion. Jordana Confino, a former practicing attorney and founder of JC Coaching and Consulting, is joined by Robbie Margolius, Director of Wellbeing at Arnold and Porter. The episode concludes with a self-compassion meditation led by Nancy Batterman, Deputy General Counsel at NYC's Department of Housing, Preservation, and Development. Sneak Peak: “41 percent of parents say that most days they're so stressed they can't function. And 48 percent say that their stress is completely overwhelming. But compared to other adults, that level is at 20%.” “I think so many of us, especially lawyers, believe that if it doesn't hurt, it's not working. If we're not burning the candle at both ends, we're not being productive. If we're not pushing ourselves to our breaking point, we’re not doing enough. Because that's how we've been doing it. That's how we've been operating for so long.” “ We're talking about getting help from others and helping other people, but it's really also important to think about the connection between our self care and the care that we can provide for others. So it's that oxygen mask scenario. You've got to put on your oxygen mask first in order to help other people.” Resource: Parents Under Pressure – The U.S. Surgeon General's Advisory on the Mental Health & Well-Being of Parents: https://bit.ly/41CkWSC If you’re interested in incorporating mindfulness and well-being into your practice, join the Mindfulness and Well-Being in Law Committee for a Mindfulness Break, Yoga for Lawyers, or its next Book Club. More information about the committee and its upcoming events is available here: https://www.nycbar.org/committees/mindfulness-well-being-in-law-committee/ Outline: 00:00 Introduction to Mindful Lawyering 00:33 Meet the Hosts: Jordana and Robbie 01:20 Personal Caregiving Stories 03:48 Understanding Caregiver Fatigue 09:15 The Legal Profession's Unique Challenges 14:13 Strategies for Managing Caregiver Fatigue 23:24 Seeking Help and Building Support Systems 30:48 Practical Self-Care Tips 34:18 Final Thoughts and Self-Compassion Exercise

Our latest episode is brought to you by the City Bar’s Mass Incarceration Task Force. Tess Cohen, Chair of Task Force, discusses the Treatment Court Expansion Act, formerly known as the Treatment Not Jail Act, with guests Jeffrey Berman, a mental health attorney with the Legal Aid Society of Manhattan, and Mark Graham, founder and executive director of the Redemption Center. They explore the legislation's goal to expand treatment-based alternatives to incarceration for individuals with mental health issues, substance use disorders, and other disabilities. The discussion covers the bill's potential to reduce recidivism, the role of diversion courts, and the broader societal impact of addressing mental health and substance use issues within the community. Join the coalition at treatmentnotjail.com and advocate for change in our community. If you want to learn more about sensible legislative solutions to the treatment of people who are incarcerated in New York, read the Mass Incarceration Task Force’s reports on the Treatment Court Expansion Act (https://bit.ly/43ETNRw) and the Communities Not Cages Act (https://bit.ly/4htf57U) and view the City Bar’s Legislative Agenda (https://bit.ly/3DuhGAL) to learn more about how you can participate in advocacy that supports passage of these proposals in the New York State Legislature. 00:00 Overview of the Treatment Court Expansion Act 00:39 Meet the Experts: Jeffrey Berman and Mark Graham 01:29 Understanding the Legislation 02:39 Existing Criminal Justice Framework and Challenges 05:26 Expanding the Treatment Court System 06:47 The Importance of Removing Guilty Plea Requirements 11:53 Personal Stories and Advocacy 19:12 The Impact of Incarceration on Mental Health 22:12 Public Safety and Mental Health 26:07 The Cost and Benefits of Treatment Courts 28:33 Current Status and Future of the Treatment Courts Expansion Act 30:56 How Listeners Can Help 37:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Salahuddin Ahmed, a constitutional lawyer and expert from Pakistan, visited the City Bar Middle East and North African Affairs Committee to discuss the 26th Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan and its impact on the independence of the Supreme Court and the Rule of Law. For a brief background on how the 26th Amendment attempts to subjugate the judiciary to the present regime in Pakistan, read the statement of the International Commission of Jurists: https://www.icj.org/pakistan-26th-constitutional-amendment-is-a-blow-to-the-independence-of-the-judiciary/ At least two Senators said in television interviews that they were compelled to vote for the Amendment after being kidnapped and having their family members kidnapped. The inducements and coercion adopted during the process were widely reported in Pakistani media and even raised in Parliament. For example, see: https://www.nation.com.pk/18-Oct-2024/senators-seek-end-to-coercion-to-get-vote-on-judicial-reforms The preliminary problem with this legal challenge will be - who hears this petition? Will it be the Supreme Court as it existed prior to the Amendment or can it now only be the Constitutional Bench of the Supreme Court specially selected for this purpose by the post-Amendment Judicial Commission (which, post-Amendment, has a majority of political appointees and a minority of judges)? The subsequent challenge is whether courts should ever be involved in determining the validity of constitutional amendments (even if clearly aimed at undermining democracy or the rule of law) or whether it must always be left to the political process? In the past, the judiciary in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh have declared they have the power to strike down constitutional amendments if Parliament attempts to subvert the democratic essence of the Constitution by eliminating fundamental rights or the independence of judiciary. If you enjoyed this podcast, watch Hon. Athar Minallah, Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan, address the City Bar alongside City Bar President Muhammad U. Faridi, Kabir Hashmi of Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP, and special guest Hon. Rowan Wilson, Chief Judge of the State of New York. Justice Minallah spoke about the role of the judiciary in ensuring accountability and promotion of the rule of law, and the dangers of judicial overreach and activism. Video of the event is available here: https://www.nycbar.org/videos/the-independence-of-the-judiciary-and-rule-of-law-in-pakistan/?back=1&ref=media

Jerome Walker, co-chair of the Presidential Task Force on Artificial Intelligence and Digital Technologies, leads a discussion on President Trump's January 23, 2025 executive order: Removing Barriers to American Leadership in Artificial Intelligence. The episode features insights from Nikhil Aggarwal, Harut Minasian, and Nichole Sterling on the implications of reversing President Biden's AI policies. Key discussions include the roles of federal and state regulations, the balance between innovation and safety, and the international landscape of AI regulations. Nikhil, Harut and Nichole also explain foundational principles like explainability, transparency, and fairness in AI models, and assess how stakeholders should navigate these regulatory changes. Additionally, the episode delves into practical examples of AI applications in national security and offers strategic advice for market participants over the next four years. If you’re interested in learning more about cryptocurrency and regulatory treatment of digital financial technology, join us for the City Bar’s Crypto Institute on March 11 (https://services.nycbar.org/Institute/ and available thereafter on-demand). Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming programs and events. Removing Barriers to American Leadership in Artificial Intelligence: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/removing-barriers-to-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence/ 00:22 Overview of President Trump's Executive Order on AI 02:34 Panelist Introductions 05:47 Understanding AI Models 08:01 AI in National Security 10:13 Impact of Executive Orders on AI Stakeholders 14:24 Legal Advice for AI Stakeholders 30:59 State Responses to Federal AI Policies 35:00 International AI Regulations and US Leadership 56:11 AI Action Plan and Key Principles 01:00:48 Conclusion and Closing Remarks

Two legal experts, Tiffany Smith from WilmerHale and Stuart Levi from Skadden Arps, analyze President Trump's January 23rd, 2025 Executive Order on Strengthening American Leadership in Digital Financial Technology. They compare it with President Biden's previous executive order, discussing the balance between innovation and risk, potential impacts on the digital assets industry, regulatory clarifications, and international competition. The experts also emphasize the need for balanced, cautious optimism while engaging with both federal and state regulators. If you’re interested in learning more about cryptocurrency and regulatory treatment of digital financial technology, join us for the City Bar’s Crypto Institute on March 11 (https://services.nycbar.org/Institute/ and available thereafter on-demand). Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming programs and events. Strengthening American Leadership in Digital Financial Technology: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/strengthening-american-leadership-in-digital-financial-technology/ 00:29 Overview of President Trump's Executive Order 06:36 Discussion on Regulatory Environment 09:47 Advice for Stakeholders and Lawyers 22:24 State-Level Responses to Executive Order 28:28 International Perspective on Digital Assets 33:17 Policy Debate on Digital Asset Laws 37:23 Comparing Biden and Trump Administration Approaches 40:17 Future of Digital Asset Regulation 51:46 Conclusion and Closing Remarks

This episode of the New York City Bar Association comes to you from the Mindfulness and Well-Being in Law Committee. Host Scott Mason and committee Chair Aimee Latorre delve into the dimensions of wellbeing, Aimee’s personal journey with mindfulness, and the profession’s current crisis of mental health, attrition, and substance abuse. They also discuss the six dimensions of wellbeing defined by the ABA, and the additional two by the New York State Bar Association. Aimee highlights practical steps individuals and organizations can take to foster a culture of wellbeing and the positive impact it has on ethical and competent legal practice. If you’re interested in incorporating mindfulness and well-being into your practice, join the Mindfulness and Well-Being in Law Committee for a Mindfulness Break, Yoga for Lawyers, or its next Book Club. More information about the committee and its upcoming events is available here: https://www.nycbar.org/committees/mindfulness-well-being-in-law-committee/ Visit nycbar.org/events to find all the most up-to-date information about our upcoming programs and events. 01:14 Personal Stories and Mindfulness Practices 03:10 Challenges in the Legal Profession 07:55 Defining Wellbeing and Mindfulness 08:56 Dimensions of Attorney Wellbeing 21:51 Practical Steps for Improving Wellbeing 25:21 Upcoming Events and Getting Involved 28:44 Conclusion and Meditation

Our latest episode from the Presidential Task Force on Artificial Intelligence and Digital Technologies surveys an emerging landscape of legislation around AI liabilities and remedies. David Lisson (Davis Polk), Clint Morrison (Patterson Belknap), Shayne O'Reilly (Meta), Matt Bacal (Davis Polk), and Rama Elluru ( Special Competitive Studies Project) unpack regulations from state, federal and international bodies covering topics such as disclosure and transparency, kids' safety, deep fakes, non-consensual intimate imagery, and intellectual property. They also touch upon the significant penalties under the EU AI Act and the broader themes emerging from these legislative efforts, emphasizing the balance between innovation and regulation. If you’re interested in learning more about how artificial intelligence will affect the legal world, check out the City Bar’s Artificial Intelligence Institute, available on-demand. Visit nycbar.org/events to find all of the most up-to-date information about our upcoming programs and events. 01:20 Federal AI Laws and Regulations 03:06 Pending AI Bills in the U.S. 14:35 State-Level AI Legislation 32:21 International AI Regulations: The EU AI Act 41:06 Closing Thoughts and Future Outlook 45:15 Outro and Additional Resources