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Sparks! is an annual thematic event exploring future technology and how it will affect society. The CERN Sparks! Podcast brings together the brightest minds in the chosen field and explores the visions and challenges of the future.
The podcast aims to broach the annual theme with a wider public and allow science lovers to have an insight into future trends from multiple, multidisciplinary angles.
The second season of the CERN Sparks! podcast, hosted by Bruno Giussani: 6 episodes focused on discussing some of the present of health tech and science and taking a deep look at the many exciting, often risky and generally thrilling possibilities of future technologies for health. With Nobel Laureate Jennifer Doudna; the founding father of genomics, George Church; the WHO’s chief scientist, Soumya Swaminathan; and many other guests.
In the first series about Artificial intelligence, hear the sparks fly as Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo collide pairs of the leading coders, neuroscientists, entrepreneurs, philosophers, psychologists and physicists who are shaping the future.
CERN - the European Organization for Nuclear Research, is the largest particle physics laboratory in the world. Established in 1954, it is derived from the French acronym Conseil européen pour la recherche nucléaire. We probe the fundamental structure of the particles that make up everything around us.
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CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
The podcast aims to broach the annual theme with a wider public and allow science lovers to have an insight into future trends from multiple, multidisciplinary angles.
The second season of the CERN Sparks! podcast, hosted by Bruno Giussani: 6 episodes focused on discussing some of the present of health tech and science and taking a deep look at the many exciting, often risky and generally thrilling possibilities of future technologies for health. With Nobel Laureate Jennifer Doudna; the founding father of genomics, George Church; the WHO’s chief scientist, Soumya Swaminathan; and many other guests.
In the first series about Artificial intelligence, hear the sparks fly as Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo collide pairs of the leading coders, neuroscientists, entrepreneurs, philosophers, psychologists and physicists who are shaping the future.
CERN - the European Organization for Nuclear Research, is the largest particle physics laboratory in the world. Established in 1954, it is derived from the French acronym Conseil européen pour la recherche nucléaire. We probe the fundamental structure of the particles that make up everything around us.
Production
CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
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“Major advances, even in a crisis, are made in the years and decades before the crisis (...) these are not miracles that happen by chance.” - Jeremy Farrar
We have all felt the impact of the pandemic in 2020 and 2021 - but we have not felt it equally. In this episode, the last of this series, host Bruno Giussani dives into the ecosystems around scientific innovation, looking at the way different forms of collaboration, legal frameworks, and the respective roles of public institutions, private companies and philanthropy in enabling (or not) technological advances. Joining Bruno are the director of the Wellcome Trust, Jeremy Farrar, reflecting on the role of philanthropic organisations as well as the necessity of long-term investment in science, discovery and education; Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist at the WHO, talking about the role the WHO plays on the international stage and the struggles for equity in treatment - and the WHO’s first mRNA technology transfer hub in Africa; Els Torreele, biomedical scientist and researcher in equitable public health policy, diving deep into the effects of patent-driven and commercially-funded medical research; and Ben Perry, medicinal chemist involved in drug discovery, commenting on the complexities of molecule control.
Guests: Els Torreele, Ben Perry, Jeremy Farrar, Soumya Swaminathan
Host: Bruno Giussani
Production
CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
“There’s no such thing as too many scientists” - Ben Perry
Join host Bruno Giussani as he delves into the rationale and practice of large scale scientific collaborations. In this episode Ben Perry, medicinal chemist with DNDI (Drugs for Neglected Diseases Initiative) talks about the nature and successes of open science. Rolf Apweiler, co-director of the European Bioinformatics Institute that collects, analyses and distributes data to the worldwide scientific community, explains the challenges researchers face in accessing the data they need and the way EBI seeks to streamline the process. The Wellcome Trust’s director Jeremy Farrar discusses the interconnectedness of the world and how frameworks for international collaboration are essential for the future especially in areas where the scientific and the political overlap. And Charlotte Warakaulle, director for International Relations at CERN, describes the “CERN model” and elaborates on its scientific and technological contributions to health.
Guests: Ben Perry, Rolf Apweiler, Jeremy Farrar, Charlotte Warakaulle
Host: Bruno Giussani
Production
CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
“We are so taken in by technology that we forget that technology is a tool that should be used with an outcome in mind.” - Soumya Swaminathan
In this episode, host Bruno Giussani and his guests wade through the quagmire of healthtech ethics and fairness, exploring topics such as how the notions of right and wrong are changed by technology, data ownership and privacy, mind-manipulation technologies and the marvels of machine-learning systems which often are black boxes that not even the specialists understand. In conversation with Bruno are Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist of the WHO; George Church, the founding father of genomics; Pushmeet Kohli from DeepMind; technoethicist and entrepreneur Juan Enriquez; neuroscientist Olaf Blanke of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology; and Nobel laureate Jennifer Doudna.
Guests: Soumya Swaminathan, George Church, Pushmeet Kohli, Juan Enriquez, Olaf Blanke, Jennifer Doudna
Host: Bruno Giussani
Production
CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
“We finally have a way of making an organism resistant to all viruses.” - George Church
Gene editing, complete virus resistance, longer healthspans, reversing ageing - these are no longer concepts consigned to the pages of science fiction, but real research that host Bruno Giussani explores in this episode. Jennifer Doudna, who shared the 2020 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for her foundational work on the gene-editing technology CRISPR, talks about the first 10 years of CRISPR and the possibilities created by its combination with artificial intelligence. George Church, considered the founding father of genomics, shares some of his latest research that could lead to making us resistant to all pathogenic viruses and expand our healthspan. Abasi Ene-Obong, CEO of startup 54Gene in Nigeria, describes his work to make sure African genetic data become better represented in the field.
Guests: Jennifer Doudna, George Church, Abasi Ene-Obong
Host: Bruno Giussani
Production
CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
“I think the way we do medicine these days is broken.” - Michael Snyder
In this second episode, join host Bruno Giussani as he examines the specific tools powering the biological revolution. He is joined by Michael Snyder, geneticist and founder of the Snyder Lab at Stanford University, to talk about wearable technologies; by Pushmeet Kohli, AI for Science Lead at Deepmind (a subsidiary of Alphabet) to understand AlphaFold, the machine learning system capable of predicting the structure of nearly all proteins known to science, and its impacts; and Ben Perry, medicinal chemist at the Drugs for Neglected Diseases Initiative (DNDI) to talk about AlphaFold’s benefits for drug development.
Guests: Michael Snyder, Pushmeet Kohli, Ben Perry
Host: Bruno Giussani
Production
CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
1From the use of the data captured by wearable devices to the relationship between doctors and patients in an AI world, in our first episode host Bruno Giussani explores visions of future health. Jane Metcalfe, founder of Neo.Life (and, three decades ago, co-founder of Wired magazine) elaborates on the coming neo-biological revolution and the human immunome; Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist of the World Health Organisation and head of its science division, reflects on which innovations will have the biggest impacts on global health and; Eric Topol, founder and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute and author of “Deep Medicine”, explains how artificial intelligence can make healthcare human again.
Guests: Jane Metcalfe, Soumya Swaminathan, Eric Topol
Host: Bruno Giussani
Production
CERN, Geneva: Claudia Marcelloni, Lila Mabiala, Sofia Hurst
Whistledown Productions, London: Will Yates and Sandra Kanthal
Copyright: CERN, 2022
The second season of the CERN Sparks! podcast: 6 episodes focused on discussing some of the present of health tech and science and taking a deep look at the many exciting, often risky and generally thrilling possibilities of future technologies for health. With Nobel Laureate Jennifer Doudna; the founding father of genomics, George Church; the WHO’s chief scientist, Soumya Swaminathan; and many other guests.
Francesca Rossi is an influential global leader in AI research. Daniel Kahneman is one of the greatest living cognitive psychologists. In the final podcast in the series, our guests take Daniel’s revolutionary “fast and slow” systems of thought as inspiration for rewriting AI, and debate the nature of thought itself. “I really find it difficult to imagine why there should be anything at which humans are essential in the domain of intelligence,” says Kahneman. Is there anything that humans can do that AI cannot in principle do?
To find out more, join hosts Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo as they speak with Anima and John on the subject of Creative AI.
Daniel Kahneman is a world-renowned cognitive psychologist and winner of the 2002 Nobel prize in Economics. Francesca Rossi is Global Ethics Leader at IBM and President-Elect of AAAI.
“We always had privacy violation, we had people being blamed falsely for crimes they didn’t do, we had mis-diagnostics, we also had false news, but what AI has done is amplify all this, and make it bigger,” says Google’s Nyalleng Moorosi. In Episode 5, she and philosopher Matthew Liao debate the delicate balance between personal moral agency, human rights and corporate responsibility in the brave new world of artificial intelligence. We need to understand more about these principles, not just to list them, says Liao, because then there’s a worry that we’re just doing ethics washing — they sound good but they don’t have any bite.
To find out more, join hosts Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo as they speak with Anima and John on the subject of Creative AI.
Nyalleng Moorosi is a research software engineer at Google working on ethics and democratising AI. S. Matthew Liao is a philosopher and bioethicist.
Particle physics is at a moment of truth. The discovery in 2012 of the Higgs boson promises to reveal a rich new structure for the vacuum and rewrite the history of the early universe, but a long list of fundamental questions remains, and physicists are faced with an awesome data flow from the Large Hadron Collider. In Episode 4, CERN’s Maurizio Pierini and Michael Doser explore using “unsupervised learning” to reveal nature’s mysteries. I’m really super excited about the next LHC run, says Pierini, because this is when we’re going to try these things for real.
To find out more, join hosts Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo as they speak with Anima and John on the subject of Creative AI.
Maurizio Pierini is an innovative young experimental physicist implementing AI techniques at the Large Hadron Collider. Michael Doser is a seasoned experimental physicist at CERN’s antimatter factory.
We can dream, we can hallucinate, we can create — so how do we build those capabilities into AI? Deep-learning expert Anima Anandkumar and distinguished theoretical physicist John Ellis discuss the potential for artificial intelligence to one day collaborate with us in attacking the biggest unanswered questions in physics — questions which have outwitted humans for years. In a conversation ranging from the quantum nature of subatomic reality to the distributed intelligence of the octopus, our guests explore how AI might one day tackle questions which are conceptually boundless and infinite. “This would be truly stealing the theoretical physicists’ lunch,” says Ellis.
To find out more, join hosts Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo as they speak with Anima and John on the subject of Creative AI.
Anima Anandkumar is a leading machine-learning researcher whose career spans academia and industry. John Ellis is one of the world’s most respected theoretical physicists.
Episode 2 collides two rockstars of the world of artificial intelligence to reimagine the field for the next generation. Is consciousness quantum or just me talking to myself? Could quantum computing unlock a step change in artificial intelligence? Our guests also get down to earth on the need for AI to tackle real-world data-poor problems from hiring bias to diagnosing manic episodes in bipolar sufferers. There is a recurring flaw in applied artificial intelligence, argues Ming. Machine learning is not a Deus ex machina for your company’s problems: expertise is queen, and innovation by gender and ethnic minorities is problematically undervalued.
To find out more, join hosts Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo as they speak with Maria and Vivienne on the subject of Quantum AI.
Vivienne Ming is a theoretical neuroscientist and serial AI entrepreneur. Maria Spiropulu is an influential experimental particle physicist who is leading the way on the use of quantum technologies in AI.
Do we need to understand the brain to make progress in artificial intelligence? In the first podcast in the series, Stuart Russell and Tomaso Poggio contrast “deep learning” with our own organic neural networks. In an age of great demonstrations by the likes of Deep Mind and OpenAI, our guests make the case for focusing on controlled experimentation, and question the wisdom of using AI in science before it is fully understood. The mystery of intelligence, says Poggio, is the greatest problem in science today — if we solve it, we solve all other problems too.
To find out more, join hosts Mark Rayner and Abha Eli Phoboo as they speak with Stuart and Tomaso on the subject of Brainy AI.
Stuart Russell is a renowned expert in machine learning, and a leading thinker on AI safety. Tomaso Poggio is one of the founders of computational neuroscience. His students have made a profound impact on machine learning.
Welcome to The CERN Sparks! Podcast, essential listening for the curious mind in search of answers about the future of Artificial Intelligence.
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