The Disciple Maker‘s Podcast

Join the learning community: https://discipleship.org/hall-of-tyrannus-learning-community/ Empowering Disciple-Making Movements: A Game-Changer for Churches Join Bobby Harrington and Josh Howard in an enlightening webinar designed to shift the paradigm of disciple-making within churches. Bringing 16 years of hands-on experience from India, Josh proposes a 'parallel track' methodology that synergizes with existing church programs. This approach aims to cultivate intentional disciple-makers without dismantling the established structure. Delve into actionable insights on fostering rapid multiplication of disciples, addressing the disconnect in modern church culture, and creating a sustainable disciple-making model. Essential for pastors, church leaders, and anyone committed to Jesus-style discipleship, this episode unpacks a strategic pathway to meet the Great Commission in today's context. 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 01:53 Josh Howard's Background and Experience 04:28 Defining Disciple Making Movements 06:58 Core Definitions of Discipleship 13:02 The Biblical Basis for Disciple Making 15:24 Challenges in Modern Church Discipleship 18:18 The Parallel Track Approach 26:36 Implementing the Parallel Track 36:08 Q&A and Final Thoughts Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/  Check out the following eBooks from Discipleship.org: -- What Is Church? And How Important Is It?  https://discipleship.org/shop/what-is-church-and-how-important-is-it/ -- Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/ -- Becoming a Disciple Maker https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/ -- National Study: The State of Disciple Making Churches: A 10 Minute Visual Guide https://discipleship.org/shop/national-study-the-state-of-disciple-making-churches-a-10-minute-visual-guide/ -- Reaching & Discipling Women: A Guide to Women’s Ministry in Your Church https://discipleship.org/shop/reaching-discipling-women-a-guide-to-womens-ministry-in-your-church/ Check out the following Books from Discipleship.org: -- The Discipleship Gospel https://himpublications.com/product/the-discipleship-gospel/?utm_source=discipleship-org&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=books-page -- Disciple-Making Culture https://himpublications.com/product/disciple-making-culture/ -- Recreated to Be like God: Making Disciples in the Image of Jesus https://a.co/d/6DDvUrC -- King Jesus and the Beauty of Obedience-Based Discipleship https://a.co/d/7d85z6T -- The Disciple Maker's Handbook: Seven Elements of a Discipleship Lifestyle https://a.co/d/4ZHIbQz Take the FREE Disciple Maker Assessment: https://church-multiplication.com/disciplemaker/ Come to the The National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/ Stay informed - Get our newsletter:  http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Listen - Disciple Maker's Podcast:  https://discipleship.org/resources/podcast/

Today’s episode will help us understand the importance of rest and Sabbath in disciple-making, as well as the impact of burnout and how to counteract it through sustainable rhythms of life. Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/    The Deeper Walk Experience | Franklin, TN | Aug. 15-16, 2025: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/dw-experience-franklin/  Discipling Men | Dallas, TX | Sept. 11, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/dallas-2025-regional/  The Discipleship Gospel | Oceanside, CA | Oct. 9, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/2025-west-coast-conference/  Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/    Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr   The Importance of Sabbath: Finding Rest in Disciple-Making In this episode of the Disciple Maker Podcast, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into a vital but often overlooked aspect of disciple-making: the practice of Sabbath. They share personal stories and insights on how incorporating rest and healthy rhythms into daily life can prevent burnout and lead to more sustainable ministry work. Drawing from both personal experiences and biblical principles, the hosts emphasize how taking regular Sabbaths can help maintain spiritual and mental health, foster deeper relationships, and ultimately strengthen one's ministry. Tune in to discover how to balance work and rest effectively and why this balance is crucial for a thriving disciple-making journey.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Podcast Beginnings 01:03 The Importance of Sabbath in Ministry 03:00 Personal Testimony: Burnout and Recovery 06:12 Implementing Sabbath Practices 09:23 Cultural Rhythms and Work Ethics 11:31 Balancing Work and Rest in Ministry 14:39 Reflecting on Life Choices 15:24 The Unforced Rhythms of Grace 16:04 The Importance of Rest in Discipleship 17:03 Balancing Work and Rest 19:00 Sabbath as Resistance 19:52 Real-Life Examples of Sabbath 23:25 The Modern Pace of Life 26:12 Encouragement for Restful Living   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/    Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode of the Disciple Maker Podcast, Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael humorously start off by discussing the challenges of kicking off the podcast seamlessly. They segue into an important discussion on Sabbath and rest. Josh shares his personal experience with burnout from a grueling work schedule in India, emphasizing the importance of regular rest to avoid mental, physical, and spiritual exhaustion. They highlight that Sabbath isn't just an Old Testament concept but essential for sustainable ministry and overall well-being. The need for ministry leaders and everyone to balance work and rest is underscored, promoting a lifestyle that counters societal pressures of constant busyness and productivity. By setting boundaries and maintaining healthy rhythms of life, Josh and Jason advocate for a balanced approach to ministry and personal life. The episode calls listeners to evaluate their own rest practices and integrate meaningful Sabbath practices to prevent burnout and enhance fulfillment and effectiveness in both life and ministry.

Get the free eBook – Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship: https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/   Today's episode will help us understand the importance of consistent, intentional time with our kids and how to model repentance and discipleship in everyday life. Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/   The Deeper Walk Experience | Franklin, TN | Aug. 15-16, 2025: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/dw-experience-franklin/  Discipling Men | Dallas, TX | Sept. 11, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/dallas-2025-regional/   The Discipleship Gospel | Oceanside, CA | Oct. 9, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/2025-west-coast-conference/   Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr  The Importance of Discipling Our Children | Disciple Makers Podcast In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, hosts Josh Howard, Jason, and Ishmael dive into the crucial topic of discipling our children. They explore the significance of intentionality in parenting and how quality time equates to quantity time. The hosts share practical steps, such as setting up standing stones to remind children of God's works, as well as personal experiences and methods they use to disciple their own kids. They emphasize the importance of loving your spouse and confessing mistakes as key principles of discipleship. The episode concludes with an encouraging reminder that we are not alone in this journey—Jesus and the Holy Spirit are with us, helping us every step of the way. Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/   Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Banter 00:53 Discipling Our Kids 02:56 The Importance of Intentionality 06:08 Loving Our Spouses Well 08:17 Confession and Repentance in Parenting 12:02 Making Up for Lost Time 13:18 Practical Tips for Intentional Parenting 18:44 Intentional Family Time 19:07 The Challenge of Consistency 19:59 Memorizing Scripture with Kids 20:56 The Importance of Saying Yes 25:08 Encouragement for Parents 26:10 Teaching Life Skills and Faith 28:49 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Parenting 30:58 Resources for Family Discipleship Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/   Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/   See Below for a longer description: So, spending consistent quality time with your kids matters a lot. I take my kids out, one-on-one, every week. It doesn't have to be anything fancy—sometimes, it's just ice cream or a car wash run with my daughter. Over time, these moments build strong relationships and make way for deeper conversations. Plus, we try to do family devotions and prayer time before bed. We're not perfect, but it's a constant effort. Absolutely. It's crucial to prioritize your kids and give them the best of you, not just what's left. Simple activities, like watching a favorite show together, can mean a lot. The key is to be present and make the most of these moments. Right. And it's never too late to start. Even if you've missed opportunities before, you can always begin now. Whether it's with your own kids, grandkids, or kids at church, just be intentional. God's grace covers it all, and He’s more than willing to help us on this journey.

Today’s episode will help us understand how to maintain our spiritual 'saltiness' and 'light' by keeping our hearts pure and living lives that genuinely reflect Jesus' teachings. Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/  The Deeper Walk Experience | Franklin, TN | Aug. 15-16, 2025: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/dw-experience-franklin/  Discipling Men | Dallas, TX | Sept. 11, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/dallas-2025-regional/   The Discipleship Gospel | Oceanside, CA | Oct. 9, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/2025-west-coast-conference/   Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/   Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr  Get Lit, Stay Salty: The Power of Pure Discipleship Join us for an engaging episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, where Jason and Josh dive deep into the teachings of Jesus, focusing on the enduring relevance of being the salt of the earth and the light of the world. They explore the profound message in Matthew 5 about maintaining purity of heart and how impure salt loses its saltiness. The conversation connects Jesus' teachings to the mission of disciple-making, emphasizing the importance of a heart that is guarded and devoted to Christ. The discussion also highlights the transformative power of authentic encounters with Jesus and how genuine discipleship can positively impact society. Tune in for insightful, humorous, and spiritually enriching dialogue. Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/   Key Takeaways  00:00 Welcome to the Disciple Maker's Podcast 00:44 The Relevance of Jesus' Teachings Today 00:58 Understanding 'Salt of the Earth' 02:57 The Greek Phrase for 'Loses Its Saltiness' 03:57 The Stability of Pure Salt 07:04 Connecting Salt and Discipleship 09:13 Guarding the Heart in Modern Times 10:43 The Importance of Purity and Dependence on Jesus 13:57 Recovery and Regeneration 15:47 The Power of Confession and Regeneration 18:31 The Classic 'Poop in the Brownies' Illustration 21:50 Creating Thirst Through Saltiness 28:50 The Challenge to Be Salty and Bright 31:07 Final Blessing and Resources Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/   Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/   See Below for a longer description: In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, Jason and Josh dive into what it means to be effective disciples of Jesus Christ, focusing on His powerful metaphors of being the salt of the earth and the light of the world. They start with a light-hearted banter that transitions into the deeper purpose of Christian living, stressing how Jesus' teachings from 2000 years ago are still relevant and necessary today.   These metaphors come from Matthew 5, where Jesus tells us, “You are the salt of the earth” and “You are the light of the world.” Jason explains that the Greek phrase for salt losing its saltiness literally means salt that “plays the fool” or loses its purpose. He delves into the science of pure salt (NACL), which doesn’t lose its saltiness unless mixed with impurities—similar to how a disciple loses their ‘flavor’ when their heart isn’t pure. They talk about keeping the heart pure, ensuring our impact remains strong. Josh adds humor by discussing the phrase “stay salty,” shifting to a serious note on how to maintain our ‘saltiness’ through purity. Using the Dead Sea salt analogy, they stress that impurities can corrupt our faith. Josh highlights fears of losing our spiritual flavor and reassures listeners using Greek terminology to emphasize remaining undiluted. The duo moves into genuine discipleship and the importance of ongoing self-assessment and transparency. Josh discusses Re:generation, a community for overcoming struggles like insecurity and pride, not just addiction, encouraging open sharing for spiritual growth. Jason quotes Romans 7, reminding listeners of our inherent need for Jesus and the weakness in our human nature. This converts to positive action: depending on Jesus to maintain our spiritual 'saltiness.' Josh illustrates the necessity of keeping our hearts and daily activities pure by humorously describing a youth pastor’s lesson involving brownies with ‘a special ingredient,’ underscoring the impact of even minor impurities. Another key point is that salt produces thirst, and Christian living should evoke curiosity in others. They stress the need for Christians to stand out positively to create spiritual thirst in non-believers. The conversation mentions concerning statistics about issues within the church, like divorce and addiction, indicating a need for Christians to live distinct lives that truly reflect Jesus. Wrapping up, they challenge listeners to pray bold prayers, asking God to reveal and purify any impurities. They emphasize the importance of being filled with the Holy Spirit to maintain their impact on the world. The episode ends on a motivational note, calling for revival and active spread of Jesus' light and teachings.  

Get the Free eBook Becoming a Disciple Maker: https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/    Today’s episode will help us tackle the three main barriers to spiritual reproduction—immaturity, sin, and lack of intimacy with Jesus—while learning to bloom where we are planted and passionately engage in disciple-making. Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/  Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr   Born to Reproduce: The Call to Spiritual Multiplication   Join Jason Ishmael and Josh Howard in this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast as they delve into the transformative power of disciple-making. Josh shares his journey, inspired by a powerful sermon from Dawson Troutman, the founder of the Navigators, titled 'Born to Reproduce.' The conversation focuses on the importance of spiritual maturity, overcoming sin, and fostering intimacy with Jesus to effectively reproduce disciples. They encourage listeners to take immediate action, bloom where they're planted, and embrace the mission with joy and commitment. Tune in to be inspired and challenged to become a disciple who makes disciples, no matter your current season or circumstances.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:22 The Disciple Maker's Box 01:09 The First Sermon That Changed Everything 03:38 Three Reasons for Spiritual Infertility 09:33 The Longing for Spiritual Reproduction 14:14 The Cost of Discipleship 15:00 The Struggles and Persistence of Success 15:30 Growing Where You're Planted 17:01 The Story of the Sunflower 20:16 Encouragement to Bloom in Unlikely Places 24:03 Invitation to Join Jesus' Mission 26:32 Final Words and Resources   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/    Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/  See Below for a longer description: Welcome back, everyone! Today we're diving into the heart of disciple-making. In this episode, Josh shares how a sermon by Dawson Trotman called "Born to Reproduce" changed his life. His mentor, Coach Dave Craft, introduced him to this impactful message, which highlights three main hurdles to spiritual reproduction: immaturity, sin, and lack of intimacy with Jesus. First, immaturity. Sometimes we think we're mature, but if we're not reproducing disciples, we need to grow more spiritually. Second, sin. Disobedience acts like a spiritual disease, hindering us from making disciples. Lastly, lack of intimacy. Without a close relationship with Jesus, we can't bear spiritual fruit. Josh realized these barriers were holding him back and addressed them head-on, encouraging all of us to do the same. Jason chimed in, comparing the longing to make disciples to the deep desire couples have for children, urging us to be just as passionate. The discussion shifted to the idea of blooming where you're planted. No need to wait for perfect conditions! Josh shared an inspiring story about a sunflower thriving in an unlikely spot, emphasizing that we can flourish spiritually anywhere. Jason shared a story about his friend Tim Palmer, who started a business despite obstacles, illustrating that we should stay faithful and trust God's timing. The episode wraps with a call to action: say 'yes' to Jesus now and join Him in the mission. Let His joy and guidance lead you to make a real impact right where you are. Check out discipleship.org for more resources, and let’s get to work making disciples! Bless you guys!

Get the free eBook – Revival Starts Here: https://discipleship.org/shop/revival-starts-here-primer/  Today’s episode will help us recognize the historical patterns of revival, awaken a deeper hunger for God, and take practical steps to spiritually prepare for a movement of disciple-making in our time. Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/  The Deeper Walk Experience | Franklin, TN | Aug. 15-16, 2025: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/dw-experience-franklin/  Discipling Men | Dallas, TX | Sept. 11, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/dallas-2025-regional/  The Discipleship Gospel | Oceanside, CA | Oct. 9, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/2025-west-coast-conference/  Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr The Next Great Revival: How to Prepare for God's Powerful Move In this episode of The Disciple Maker Podcast, hosts Josh and Jason dive deep into the topic of revival. They explore historical revivals in America, discuss the cyclical pattern of these spiritual awakenings every 50 years, and dream about the possibility of a new revival in 2025. Through lively discussion and passionate storytelling, they emphasize the importance of prayer, fasting, and repentance as essential preparations for a mighty move of God. Join them as they call believers to wage war on lukewarm Christianity and become disciples who make disciples in anticipation of a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Welcome Back, Disciple Makers! 00:45 Introduction to Revival 01:56 Historical Revivals in America 04:44 The Pattern of Revival 06:38 Preparing for the Next Revival 07:21 Skepticism and Faith 10:11 Current Signs of Revival 11:19 Revival Ready: A Call to Action 15:00 The Power of Persistent Prayer 15:57 The Role of the Pastor in Revival 16:28 Stories of Revival and Conviction 19:07 Practical Steps for Church Leaders 20:13 Counting the Cost of Revival 25:14 The Importance of Repentance 26:34 Waging War on Lukewarm Christianity 31:24 A Call to Action for Revival Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/    Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode, Josh H and Jason I dive into revival—what it means, where we've seen it in history, and what it could look like today. Josh kicks things off by noting that listeners had asked for this topic, and he’s eager to unpack it. They trace the major revival movements in American history, starting with the First Great Awakening around 300 years ago, led by Jonathan Edwards. They walk through the Second Great Awakening with Charles Finney and his intercessor Nash, and the revivals led by D.L. Moody and Billy Graham, all of which were marked by repentance and spiritual renewal. They land on the 1970s Jesus Revolution, which they say might be the last nationwide revival—exactly 50 years ago. Josh and Jason suggest this 50-year pattern may signal another wave is coming. While not predicting anything specific, they urge listeners to stay spiritually alert and ready. They share powerful stories, like two elderly sisters who prayed revival into their community during the Hebrides Revival—where even ships passing by felt the weight of God’s presence. Jason emphasizes the need to be structurally and spiritually prepared for revival, drawing from Jesus’ teaching about counting the cost before building. Both hosts agree: revival won't come without prayer, repentance, fasting, and a willingness to sacrifice. They also stress that revival must lead to disciple-making—not just emotional experiences, but long-term transformation. True revival, they argue, involves everyone, not just a few leaders. The episode ends with a challenge: join the growing movement of prayer and fasting through Discipleship.org and prepare your heart and community for what God might do next.

Today’s episode will help us face sin and temptation with honesty, accountability, and reliance on the Holy Spirit so we can grow as disciples and make disciples who walk in freedom.   Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/    The Deeper Walk Experience | Franklin, TN | Aug. 15-16, 2025: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/dw-experience-franklin/    Discipling Men | Dallas, TX | Sept. 11, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/dallas-2025-regional/    The Discipleship Gospel | Oceanside, CA | Oct. 9, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/2025-west-coast-conference/    Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/    Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr   Overcoming Temptation in Discipleship: Strategies and Insights   In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael delve into the common pitfalls in the journey of disciple making, with a focus on overcoming temptation and sin. They emphasize the importance of creating safe spaces for confession, addressing habitual sin early, and relying on the power of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God. The episode highlights practical steps for fostering genuine, accountable discipleship relationships, and offers insights into how to empower disciples to conquer sin with divine help. Tune in for valuable strategies to strengthen your disciple-making efforts and personal faith journey.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways  00:00 Welcome and Introductions 00:37 Discussing Pitfalls in Disciple Making 01:43 Addressing Temptation and Sin 03:45 The Importance of Confession and Accountability 09:05 Creating Safe Spaces for Openness 13:27 The Baby Dragon Analogy 14:20 The Importance of Early Confession 15:14 The Enemy's Intent and Church Culture 16:39 Discipleship and Dragon Slaying 18:59 The Power of the Holy Spirit 19:50 Misinterpretation of Scripture 22:26 Heeding Warnings and God's Deliverance 25:24 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Conviction 28:49 Encouragement and Consistent Rhythms 30:16 Final Thoughts and Invitation   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/    Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into a real and often overlooked challenge in disciple-making: dealing with sin and temptation. The episode kicks off with some light banter, but quickly shifts to a deep, honest conversation about the struggles that come with following Jesus—and helping others do the same. Facing the Hard Stuff Josh opens by naming the elephant in the room: temptation is part of life, even in ministry. While it’s tempting (no pun intended) to focus only on wins and high points, the guys make it clear—ignoring sin doesn’t make it go away. In fact, it makes things worse. Confronting it directly is key to personal integrity and faithful disciple-making. Everyone Struggles—Even Jesus Was Tempted Drawing from Hebrews, they remind us that even Jesus faced temptation. That truth doesn’t excuse sin—it encourages us. If He faced it and overcame, we can lean on Him in our fight too. Disciple-making isn’t about being perfect, but about staying honest and dependent on Jesus. Don’t Go It Alone Jason pushes back on the myth of solo Christianity. Isolation is dangerous, especially when struggling with sin. They paint a biblical picture of community—like the body, vine and branches, shepherd and sheep—where honest relationships offer support, accountability, and light in dark places. Confession Brings Healing Confession isn’t just a religious duty—it’s a path to healing (James 5). The hosts use a striking image: sins are like baby dragons. Small at first, but dangerous if fed and hidden. Naming them early—through confession and accountability—stops them from taking over. Practical Tools for Disciple-Makers Josh and Jason share some simple but powerful practices: Safe Spaces: Create environments where people can share struggles without fear of judgment. Early Confession: Address sin before it grows into something bigger. Regular Reflection: Stay in step with God by confessing quickly and often. Rely on the Holy Spirit and Scripture They caution against white-knuckling your way through temptation. Instead, rely on the Holy Spirit and God’s Word. Drawing from 1 Corinthians 10, they remind listeners that God always provides a way out. Around the world, disciple-making movements thrive when Scripture is the foundation and the Spirit is the guide. God's Word Transforms They emphasize that lasting change comes from God—not effort alone. When we stay rooted in Scripture and invite the Spirit to search our hearts, He brings conviction and real transformation. The goal isn’t behavior management; it’s presence-driven change led by Jesus. No Sin Too Small—or Too Big When it comes to cultural issues like sexual sin, they caution against playing favorites with sins. All sin separates. The best approach? Get people into the presence of Jesus and let the Holy Spirit do the heavy lifting. Encouragement to Apply They close by encouraging listeners to keep it simple: read Scripture, listen to the Spirit, confess quickly, and stay connected. Disciple-making happens when people walk in honesty, grace, and dependence on God—together. Takeaway: Sin and temptation are part of the journey—but they don’t have to derail it. Through confession, accountability, and the power of the Spirit, disciple-makers can walk in freedom and help others do the same.

Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/    The Deeper Walk Experience | Franklin, TN | Aug. 15-16, 2025: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/dw-experience-franklin/    Discipling Men | Dallas, TX | Sept. 11, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/dallas-2025-regional/    The Discipleship Gospel | Oceanside, CA | Oct. 9, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/2025-west-coast-conference/    Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Today’s episode will help us recognize the subtle dangers of pride in ministry, embrace humility, and refocus our efforts on pointing people to Jesus, not ourselves. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Overcoming Pride in Ministry | Disciple Makers Podcast In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, join hosts Jason and Josh as they tackle the insidious pitfalls of pride and ego in ministry. Sharing personal stories of struggles and revelations, they explore the dangers of becoming self-reliant and the importance of maintaining a humble spirit. With insights from scripture and their own experiences, they emphasize the necessity of lifting up Jesus rather than ourselves, making Him the focal point of our mission. This episode is a must-listen for anyone dedicated to being a true disciple of Christ, striving to avoid the traps of pride while faithfully serving God's kingdom.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Clickbait Confession 00:19 Discussing Pitfalls in Ministry 01:31 The Dangers of Pride and Ego 04:02 Personal Stories of Humility 06:29 Lessons from Early Ministry Experiences 09:55 The Importance of Humility in Ministry 13:52 Balancing Ambition and Calling 19:45 Preaching Christ Despite Challenges 20:08 Economic Hardships and Church Reflections 21:10 Serving the Bride of Christ 23:01 The Importance of Humility in Ministry 25:13 Personal Struggles and Divine Realizations 30:28 The Call to Make Jesus the Big Deal 36:45 Final Thoughts and Encouragement   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/    Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, Josh and Jason dive into one of the most dangerous traps in ministry—pride—and why humility is essential for every disciple of Jesus. It kicks off with a lighthearted bit about clickbait but quickly shifts into a deep, honest conversation about how pride creeps in and distorts our calling. Starting Real Josh jokingly suggests they confess their worst sins, which opens the door for a vulnerable talk about their personal struggles with pride. They both share how easy it is to be deceived by pride—especially in ministry—because it often shows up looking like confidence or competence, but slowly shifts us away from dependence on God. The Deceptive Power of Pride They reflect on how pride convinces us we don’t need God. Josh quotes James 4:6: “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble,” and they agree that pride distorts reality, making us think we’re doing God’s work when we’re really just building our own platforms. Josh points to John the Baptist’s words—“He must increase, I must decrease”—as a powerful reminder of the posture God desires. Learning the Hard Way Josh shares a story from his early ministry days when success went to his head—until a disastrous sermon reminded him he needed God's presence, not just his own talent. Since then, he’s adopted a practice of taking off his shoes before preaching as a symbolic reminder of holy ground and humility. Jason shares his own wake-up call—realizing that ambition disguised as vision had become about personal achievement. Pastoring a small church taught him that impact isn’t measured in numbers but in faithfulness. Humility in Action Later in the episode, they talk about what true humility looks like in ministry. Josh says the goal isn’t to make followers of ourselves—it’s to point people to Jesus. Jason emphasizes that when Jesus is the center, the Gospel stays front and center too. They also reflect on grace—not just as an idea, but as the active presence of God that flows through the humble. Jason notes that God works through those who get low, not those who chase applause. Practical Wisdom To wrap things up, they offer practical ways to fight pride: stay rooted in Scripture, don’t chase originality for the sake of ego, and constantly boast in Christ, not self. It's not about being clever—it’s about being faithful. Final Thoughts Josh closes by reminding listeners that pride makes ministry about you, but real discipleship is about making much of Jesus. They encourage everyone to stay humble, stay centered on Christ, and check out more resources at discipleship.org.

Today’s episode will help us face discouragement and depression with honesty, discover hope through faith, and find practical steps toward healing and spiritual resilience. Join Discipleship.org at one of our fall events: The Deeper Walk Experience | Franklin, TN | Aug. 15-16, 2025: https://deeperwalk.com/sp/dw-experience-franklin/  Discipling Men | Dallas, TX | Sept. 11, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/dallas-2025-regional/ The Discipleship Gospel | Oceanside, CA | Oct. 9, 2025: https://discipleship.org/one-day-events/2025-west-coast-conference/    Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr   Navigating Discouragement and Finding Hope in Jesus | Disciple Maker's Podcast In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, the hosts dive deep into the challenges of dealing with discouragement, depression, and anxiety. Through personal anecdotes and biblical examples, they discuss the importance of lifting one's eyes towards Jesus during tough seasons. They share practical tips for overcoming these struggles, including the power of speaking life, the importance of community, and the positive impact of medication. The hosts also highlight the transformative power of hope, as illustrated through the stories of Elijah, the Israelites, and Jesus. Join us for an encouraging conversation on finding hope and strength in the midst of trials. Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Voice Confusion 01:09 Discussing Success and Discouragement 01:57 Biblical Examples of Discouragement 02:54 Personal Stories of Struggle 04:06 A Poem of Despair and Hope 07:58 Encouragement and Hope in Difficult Times 11:25 Resurrecting Hope Through Biblical Imagery 20:12 Finding Hope in Times of Discouragement 20:43 Personal Testimony of Overcoming Depression 21:21 The Impact of Our Struggles on Loved Ones 31:10 Encouragement and Practical Tips 36:21 Final Words of Encouragement and Resources   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/ Join us for our 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/    See Below for a longer description: They reflect on how this experience isn’t new—pointing to Elijah, who crashed emotionally right after his greatest spiritual victory. They also draw from Jesus' time in the desert, showing how even the hardest seasons can be a setup for deeper spiritual power and clarity. One of the most moving moments is when Josh reads a poem he wrote at 2 AM during one of his lowest points, titled My Soul in the Town of Bethany. It’s raw, honest, and full of longing—and yet, it ends with hope, echoing the resurrection theme so central to the Gospel. Josh shares the steps he took to find healing: daily affirmations, professional counseling, medication, and leaning into community—even when he didn’t feel like it. He also reads a touching letter from his wife, shedding light on how depression affects not just individuals but entire families. Throughout the episode, Josh and Jason emphasize that it's okay to not be okay—and that God often does His deepest work in our darkest hours. They encourage listeners to stay connected, seek help, and hold on to hope, because the desert isn’t the end of the story. Bottom Line: This episode is for anyone who's ever felt spiritually drained, emotionally stuck, or just plain worn out. Josh and Jason don’t sugarcoat the struggle, but they point to a God who meets us in the middle of it—and leads us out with purpose.

Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Today’s episode will help us move from self-reliance to Spirit-empowered living by embracing daily surrender and rediscovering the power of the Holy Spirit in our walk with Jesus. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr   Empowering Every Believer: Activating the Priesthood of All Believers - Disciple Maker's Podcast Ep. 7   Unlocking the Power of the Holy Spirit: A Call to Bold Witness and Total Surrender   In this impactful episode, Josh Howard and Jason dive deep into the significance of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer. They discuss the challenges modern Christians face, including the startling statistic that 98% of Christians in America never share their faith outside of their immediate families. They highlight two main problems: the lack of witnessing and the often forgotten role of the Holy Spirit in many churches. Through scriptural examples, particularly from the Book of Acts, they showcase the transformative power of the Holy Spirit and the necessity of full surrender and consecration to experience true spiritual empowerment. They argue that without daily dying to oneself and being filled afresh with the Spirit, believers cannot effectively witness or make disciples. The conversation underscores the critical need for revival and a personal challenge to be a true burnt offering for God’s glory. Join them in a heartfelt prayer of surrender, and take the first steps toward becoming a vessel for the Spirit’s power in your life.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways    00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 00:52 The Role of the Holy Spirit in the Church 03:01 The Power of Witnessing and the Holy Spirit 05:57 Daily Surrender and Empowerment 12:18 Living Sacrifice and Community Support 22:35 The Demands of Discipleship 23:14 The Reasonableness of Total Surrender 24:27 Living as a Burnt Offering 30:02 The Power of the Holy Spirit 32:17 A Call to Radical Transformation 37:42 Prayer of Surrender 45:00 Final Thoughts and Encouragement   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: Podcast Recap: S3 Ep. 2 – Life in the Spirit In this episode, Jason and Josh dive into a real, honest conversation about what it means to live a life empowered by the Holy Spirit. They go back and forth between light-hearted banter and weighty truths, creating a natural rhythm that feels both grounded and inspiring. They kick things off with a laugh, joking about how hard it can be to start episodes smoothly—before easing into the heart of the conversation. The big focus? The Church’s need to make more room for the Holy Spirit—not just in Sunday services, but in everyday life. Jason shares how some churches unintentionally sideline the Spirit, joking about the tendency to worship “God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Bible.” Josh jumps in to remind us that real power—boldness, witness, and transformation—comes from the Holy Spirit. They unpack Acts 1:8, where Jesus tells His followers they’ll receive power when the Holy Spirit comes. Josh points out a sobering stat: 98% of American Christians never share their faith outside their family. The answer isn’t trying harder—it’s surrendering deeper. Josh describes how the disciples went from hiding in fear to boldly preaching the gospel after being filled with the Spirit. He draws from Romans to say the same power that raised Jesus now lives in us—meaning we’re equipped for far more than we realize. A key theme in the episode is daily surrender. Josh shares a vivid metaphor: believers “leak,” so we need to keep coming back for a fresh filling. They talk about how true revival starts when we lay ourselves down—day after day—like living sacrifices. They also explore the idea that you can’t have Pentecost without Calvary. In other words, the power of the Spirit comes through death to self. Drawing on Old Testament sacrifices, they paint a picture of what it means to live fully surrendered—acknowledging our tendency, like a goat, to crawl off the altar. Community plays a big role here too. Josh emphasizes how we need each other to keep living that surrendered life—through encouragement, accountability, and prayer. Toward the end, they call out how the Western Church often gets caught up in debates and performance, losing sight of the simple, powerful truth: Jesus rose, and His Spirit lives in us. They warn against letting the flesh take the lead again and call for a return to Spirit-led living. The episode wraps with lyrics from a Casting Crowns song that challenge superficial faith and call for genuine heart change. It’s a fitting close to a conversation all about real transformation—from the inside out. Jason and Josh finish with a heartfelt prayer, asking for the Spirit’s guidance, power, and presence to shape every part of our lives. Bottom line: If you’re hungry for deeper discipleship and lasting impact, it all starts with surrender—and the Holy Spirit is ready to lead the way.

Reviving the Region In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, we explore Acts Chapter 19, drawing modern parallels from Paul's ministry in Ephesus. Hosts discuss the concept of a 'Hall of Tyrannus' in the contemporary church, where believers are trained and equipped for radical discipleship and city-wide gospel saturation. Tune in for a powerful vision on how to create movement engines alongside traditional church models to achieve regional revival and reach the nations with the gospel of Jesus Christ. 00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks 01:34 Discussing Acts Chapter 19 02:17 Paul's Ministry in Ephesus 11:10 Modern Parallels to Paul's Ministry 21:56 The Power of Parallel Tracks in Church Growth 23:09 Embracing Control vs. Movement of God 23:37 The Role of Doctrine and Fear in Church Leadership 25:04 The Importance of Multiplication and Discipleship 29:40 Encouragement for Aspiring Disciple Makers 35:27 The Vision for a Modern Hall of Tyrannus Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/  Check out the following eBooks from Discipleship.org: -- What Is Church? And How Important Is It?  https://discipleship.org/shop/what-is-church-and-how-important-is-it/ -- Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/ -- Becoming a Disciple Maker https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/ -- National Study: The State of Disciple Making Churches: A 10 Minute Visual Guide https://discipleship.org/shop/national-study-the-state-of-disciple-making-churches-a-10-minute-visual-guide/ -- Reaching & Discipling Women: A Guide to Women’s Ministry in Your Church https://discipleship.org/shop/reaching-discipling-women-a-guide-to-womens-ministry-in-your-church/ Check out the following Books from Discipleship.org: -- The Discipleship Gospel https://himpublications.com/product/the-discipleship-gospel/?utm_source=discipleship-org&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=books-page -- Disciple-Making Culture https://himpublications.com/product/disciple-making-culture/ -- Recreated to Be like God: Making Disciples in the Image of Jesus https://a.co/d/6DDvUrC -- King Jesus and the Beauty of Obedience-Based Discipleship https://a.co/d/7d85z6T -- The Disciple Maker's Handbook: Seven Elements of a Discipleship Lifestyle https://a.co/d/4ZHIbQz Take the FREE Disciple Maker Assessment: https://church-multiplication.com/disciplemaker/ Come to the The National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/ Stay informed - Get our newsletter:  http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Listen - Disciple Maker's Podcast:  https://discipleship.org/resources/podcast/

Reinventing the Scorecard: Principles for Effective Disciple Making Welcome to the final episode of our series on the 10 principles of disciple making! In this episode, we celebrate your journey so far and dive into the crucial topic of reinventing the scorecard for disciple making. We discuss the traditional ways churches have measured success, such as attendance and donations, and why these metrics may not fully capture the essence of true disciple making. We explore the importance of tracking 'controllable' like sharing faith and prayer, versus 'uncontrollable' like conversions and baptisms. The conversation also delves into real-world examples from churches and movements worldwide, including impressive results from India. Whether you're looking to transform how success is measured in your church or seeking inspiration for personal disciple-making efforts, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice. Join us for an enlightening session that aims to help you and your community flourish in disciple making! Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Applause 01:23 Recap of the 10 Principles Series 01:49 Reinventing the Scorecard 02:13 Traditional Metrics in Churches 03:38 The Importance of Tracking Disciple Making 05:39 Examples of Effective Scorecards 08:50 Generational Growth and Multiplication 10:01 Celebrating the Right Metrics 11:32 Personal Experiences and Observations 14:22 Apprenticeship and Measuring Success 14:52 Controllable vs. Uncontrollable Metrics 16:15 Personal Responsibility in Faith 20:05 Creating a Movement Maker Factory 23:02 Evaluating Church Success 26:16 Generosity and Accountability in Discipleship 27:36 Reaching the Unchurched 29:16 Final Thoughts and Resources Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/  Check out the following eBooks from Discipleship.org: -- What Is Church? And How Important Is It?  https://discipleship.org/shop/what-is-church-and-how-important-is-it/ -- Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/ -- Becoming a Disciple Maker https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/ -- National Study: The State of Disciple Making Churches: A 10 Minute Visual Guide https://discipleship.org/shop/national-study-the-state-of-disciple-making-churches-a-10-minute-visual-guide/ -- Reaching & Discipling Women: A Guide to Women’s Ministry in Your Church https://discipleship.org/shop/reaching-discipling-women-a-guide-to-womens-ministry-in-your-church/ Check out the following Books from Discipleship.org: -- The Discipleship Gospel https://himpublications.com/product/the-discipleship-gospel/?utm_source=discipleship-org&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=books-page -- Disciple-Making Culture https://himpublications.com/product/disciple-making-culture/ -- Recreated to Be like God: Making Disciples in the Image of Jesus https://a.co/d/6DDvUrC -- King Jesus and the Beauty of Obedience-Based Discipleship https://a.co/d/7d85z6T -- The Disciple Maker's Handbook: Seven Elements of a Discipleship Lifestyle https://a.co/d/4ZHIbQz Take the FREE Disciple Maker Assessment: https://church-multiplication.com/disciplemaker/ Come to the The National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/ Stay informed - Get our newsletter:  http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Listen - Disciple Maker's Podcast:  https://discipleship.org/resources/podcast/

Simple, Effective, and Reproducible: Core Disciple Making Tools & Laser Focus | Disciple Maker's Podcast Join us on the Disciple Maker's Podcast as we dive deep into two essential principles for fostering disciple-making cultures: utilizing simple, effective, and reproducible tools and maintaining laser focus on the mission of making disciples who make disciples. Hosts Jason Ishmael and Josh explore the significance of these principles, share practical examples, and discuss a pathway for training others. They also touch on the broader impact of disciple-making and how it can transform communities. Whether you're a church leader or a passionate disciple, this episode offers valuable insights to boost your disciple-making efforts. Don't miss out! Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Welcome 01:12 Series Overview: 10 Core Disciple Making Principles 01:49 Principle 8: Simple, Effective, and Reproducible Tools 02:42 Importance of Simplicity in Disciple Making 05:35 Practical Examples and Tools 08:59 The Apprenticeship Pathway 13:22 Effective Training and Reproducibility 17:05 Overcoming Fear in Discipleship 17:20 The Seven Commands of Christ 18:01 Evaluating and Using Effective Tools 18:43 Laser Focus in Disciple Making 21:25 Training the Saved and Saving the Lost 27:52 Leveraging Ministries for Disciple Making 30:13 The Kingdom Impact of Disciple Making 33:21 Avoiding Distractions and Staying Focused 36:35 Conclusion and Resources Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/  Check out the following eBooks from Discipleship.org: -- What Is Church? And How Important Is It?  https://discipleship.org/shop/what-is-church-and-how-important-is-it/ -- Family Discipleship Blueprint: A Year-by-Year Guide to Family Discipleship https://discipleship.org/shop/family-discipleship-blueprint-a-year-by-year-guide-to-family-discipleship/ -- Becoming a Disciple Maker https://discipleship.org/shop/becoming-a-disciple-maker/ -- National Study: The State of Disciple Making Churches: A 10 Minute Visual Guide https://discipleship.org/shop/national-study-the-state-of-disciple-making-churches-a-10-minute-visual-guide/ -- Reaching & Discipling Women: A Guide to Women’s Ministry in Your Church https://discipleship.org/shop/reaching-discipling-women-a-guide-to-womens-ministry-in-your-church/ Check out the following Books from Discipleship.org: -- The Discipleship Gospel https://himpublications.com/product/the-discipleship-gospel/?utm_source=discipleship-org&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=books-page -- Disciple-Making Culture https://himpublications.com/product/disciple-making-culture/ -- Recreated to Be like God: Making Disciples in the Image of Jesus https://a.co/d/6DDvUrC -- King Jesus and the Beauty of Obedience-Based Discipleship https://a.co/d/7d85z6T -- The Disciple Maker's Handbook: Seven Elements of a Discipleship Lifestyle https://a.co/d/4ZHIbQz Take the FREE Disciple Maker Assessment: https://church-multiplication.com/disciplemaker/ Come to the The National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/ Stay informed - Get our newsletter:  http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Listen - Disciple Maker's Podcast:  https://discipleship.org/resources/podcast/

Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/    Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/    Today’s episode will help us understand how to activate the priesthood of all believers and empower everyday people to step into their God-given calling.   Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr   Empowering Every Believer: Activating the Priesthood of All Believers - Disciple Maker's Podcast Ep. 7   In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, hosts dive into the seventh principle of disciple making – the equipping and releasing of the priesthood of all believers. Drawing from studies by Bobby Harrington and insights from Ephesians 4, they emphasize the importance of lowering the bar for entry into ministry while increasing support and accountability. The discussion highlights the need to break down the professional laity divide, allowing everyone to participate fully in God's work. Personal anecdotes illustrate how ordinary individuals, regardless of their backgrounds or roles, can be used powerfully by God. The episode closes with a call to action for both church leaders and individual believers to embrace their roles in the Kingdom and equip others to do the same.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways    00:00 Welcome Back to The Disciple Maker's Podcast 00:36 Introduction to Disciple Making Principles 01:12 Principle #7: Equipping and Releasing the Priesthood 01:51 The Shift from Old Covenant to New 02:46 Breaking Down Professional Ministry 04:35 Practical Steps for Church Leaders 06:12 Encouraging and Empowering Believers 06:37 Personal Testimonies and Experiences 11:32 The Importance of Speaking Life into Others 12:20 Early Preaching Experiences 13:58 The Rat Trap Illustration 14:25 Early Preaching Experiences 14:57 Mentorship and Opportunities 15:49 Equipping and Releasing the Priesthood 18:11 Lowering the Bar of Entry 18:21 Personal Responsibility in Ministry 19:31 Empowering Individuals for Ministry 24:33 The Power of God in Everyone 26:41 Encouraging Initiative in Ministry 29:34 Conclusion and Resources   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: The episode kicks off with Josh and Jason having some fun, channeling their inner newscasters as they introduce The Disciple Maker's Podcast. Right away, they hit on the heart of the conversation: the Church isn’t just for professionals — every believer is called and equipped to take part in the mission. This episode dives into one of the ten core disciple-making principles: activating the priesthood of all believers, a concept drawn from Bobby Harrington and Discipleship.org. Josh and Jason unpack how the Church often sidelines most people, treating ministry like a spectator sport — a few “professionals” on the court, while the rest just watch from the stands. But Jesus calls everyone to get in the game, and the Holy Spirit gives us all what we need to play. They explore the shift from the Old Covenant, where only priests (Levites) had access to God, to the New Covenant — where all believers are invited to serve and represent Him directly. It’s a powerful reminder that ministry isn’t reserved for a select few. Josh also highlights the common “professional vs. laity” gap in churches and argues for lowering the barriers so anyone can step into ministry, with the right support and accountability along the way. He shares his own story — starting as a nervous, underprepared teenager giving his first sermon with a makeshift object lesson — and how mentors spotted potential and gave him room to grow. That experience shaped his path and reinforced the power of empowering others before they feel “ready.” Josh and Jason also push church leaders to create meaningful opportunities beyond simple Sunday roles like handing out bulletins. The goal? Equip people to share the gospel and make disciples, not just fill a slot. One story really drives this home: Josh tells of a woman in his church who felt called to serve in nursing homes. When she asked if she needed permission, Josh simply told her to go for it — God had already called her. They wrap up by encouraging leaders to remove obstacles, invest in people, and hold them accountable as they step into ministry — because when the Church unleashes the priesthood of all believers, lives change. Josh closes with a reminder: the same Spirit that raised Jesus lives in every believer, so there’s no need to wait for permission. He invites listeners to check out resources at Discipleship.org and teases the next episode, where the conversation will continue  

Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/  Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Today’s episode will talk about scripture as the core of disciple-making by showing how simple obedience to God’s Word—guided by the Holy Spirit—can transform lives and communities. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Disciple Maker's Podcast: The Power of Scripture in Disciple Making Join us on the Disciple Maker's Podcast as we dive into the sixth principle of disciple making: making Scripture the central curriculum. Hosts Jason Ishmael and Josh Howard explore the significance of using the Bible as the primary source for disciple making, highlighting the transformative power of reading, studying, and obeying God's word. They discuss the simplicity and effectiveness of Discovery Bible Study, a method used globally to facilitate deeper understanding and application of Scripture. Packed with practical insights and heartfelt discussions, this episode challenges listeners to reassess the role of the Bible in their lives and ministries. Don't miss this deep dive into how Scripture can be a game changer in disciple making movements worldwide. Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Welcome to the Disciple Maker's Podcast 01:09 Introduction to the 10 Principles of Disciple Making 01:31 Scripture as the Core Curriculum 02:44 The Power and Authority of Scripture 03:29 Challenges in Modern Disciple Making 04:26 The Importance of Obedience to Scripture 05:19 Practical Applications in Disciple Making 07:15 Reevaluating the Role of Scripture 07:48 Personal Reflections and Experiences 15:52 The Goal of Discipleship 16:29 Introduction to Jim Dugan and Hacksaw 16:41 Understanding the Text in First Corinthians 17:08 The Power of Insight and the Holy Spirit 19:35 Discovery Bible Study: A Simple and Effective Tool 21:48 The Four Key Questions of Discovery Bible Study 23:45 Global Impact and Importance of Scripture 26:34 Final Thoughts and Encouragement Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode, Josh and Jason dig into the sixth key principle of disciple-making: using scripture as the primary curriculum. They argue that the Bible, guided by the Holy Spirit, is all we need to make disciples—and that real transformation happens when we don’t just study it, but actually obey it. Scripture as the Curriculum: They challenge the idea that extra curriculum is necessary. Josh makes it clear: disciple-making movements around the world stick to scripture, and it works—because the Spirit is the true teacher. Misuse and Misunderstanding: Jason calls out how people often twist scripture to back up their own opinions, rather than letting it speak for itself. He warns against treating the Bible like a suggestion box, a habit influenced by overly rational approaches from past centuries. Obedience Matters: Reading the Bible isn’t the goal—living it out is. The hosts point to Jesus’ parable of the wise and foolish builders as a reminder that hearing without doing leads nowhere. Keeping It Simple: Jason shares a story about leading a study in Colossians where he got caught up in sounding smart, but realized deep insights didn’t lead to actual discipleship. Sometimes, less is more. Discovery Bible Study (DBS): They’re big fans of DBS—a simple, powerful tool used globally. Four questions guide the study: What does this teach us about God? What does it teach us about people? How can we obey it? Who can we share it with? Practical Steps: The guys offer ideas for churches and individuals to make scripture central again—like doing regular, communal scripture studies using the DBS method. A Global Perspective: Josh wraps up with stories of believers around the world who cling to scripture despite persecution. He challenges listeners to take the Word seriously—and live it out. Resources: They close by pointing listeners to discipleship.org for tools and resources to help build scripture-centered discipleship practices.

Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/  Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Today’s episode will help us understand the power of prayer and fasting, how to incorporate them into our daily lives, and why they are essential for personal and community transformation. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr The Power of Abundantly Sowing Gospel Seeds - Disciple Maker's Podcast In this episode of the Disciple Maker's Podcast, hosts Jason Ishmael and Josh Howard dive into the fifth principle of disciple making: 'Overseeding the Gospel.' They discuss the importance of abundantly sowing seeds of the gospel, drawing on farming principles and illustrating how evangelism is about sharing the beauty and goodness of Jesus. They also highlight the need for gospel seed to be shared in its full form and challenge listeners to have Jesus regularly on their lips. The episode offers practical tools for evangelism and urges believers to engage in intentional gospel sharing to see a bountiful harvest. Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Drum Roll 00:26 Introducing the 10 Principles of Disciple Making 00:49 Principle 5: Overseeding the Gospel 02:02 The Importance of Abundant Gospel Sowing 04:04 Illustration: Evangelism and Relationships 05:15 Challenges in Modern Evangelism 07:52 Sowing Gospel Seeds in Today's Culture 11:59 The Full Gospel vs. Partial Gospel 16:51 A New Commandment: Love One Another 17:02 The Authority of Jesus Christ 17:21 Misconceptions About Salvation 19:31 The Importance of Unity in Mission 22:41 Abundant Seed Sowing and Harvest 27:41 Practical Tools for Evangelism 30:43 Encouragement and Final Thoughts   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode of the Disciple Maker’s Podcast, Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael break down the concept of “overseeding the gospel” — the fifth principle in their disciple-making series. Kicking things off with some lighthearted banter, they dive into why spreading the gospel abundantly is crucial for effective evangelism. Josh explains that overseeding is like a farmer scattering seeds generously—more seeds mean a greater harvest. This principle fuels disciple-making movements worldwide, especially in places like India and China, where rapid growth happens because believers share the gospel frequently and widely. A key takeaway? Repetition matters. In the West, gospel-sharing is often sporadic, but Josh emphasizes that the more we sow, the more we reap. Jason clears up a common misconception: good marketing isn’t the same as evangelism. True gospel sowing happens through personal, intentional conversations—not just inviting people to church. Josh uses a relatable analogy: if he wanted to set his son up with Jason’s daughter, he wouldn’t start by criticizing her. Instead, he’d highlight his son’s best qualities. Evangelism should be the same—helping people see Jesus’ beauty, not just pointing out their flaws. Jason brings up the parable of the sower, reminding us that we can’t control how people receive the gospel, but we’re called to plant seeds everywhere. The discussion then shifts to a major issue in modern Christianity: the watered-down “salvation-only” gospel. Josh and Jason push for a full gospel message—one that includes both forgiveness and submission to Jesus as King. Josh warns against separating salvation from Jesus’ lordship, a mindset that has led to consumer-driven Christianity with little real transformation. He even describes a needed “second conversion,” where believers fully commit to Jesus’ authority. Jason paints a vivid picture: accepting Jesus’ sacrifice but refusing His leadership is like enjoying a lavish meal He paid for but not inviting Him to the table. The episode also tackles the common debate over the “minimum entrance requirements” for heaven, arguing that this mindset misses the point. Instead of asking, “What’s the least I can do?” they encourage listeners to pursue full devotion to Jesus. For practical application, Josh introduces tools like the "15-second testimony" and the "three circles gospel presentation," designed to help believers share their faith naturally in everyday conversations. The key? Talk about Jesus as easily as you’d recommend a great restaurant or movie. They wrap up with a challenge: tell someone why following Jesus is good news, and ask if they’ve considered it. Many people are just waiting for someone to bring it up. Bottom line? Evangelism isn’t about technique—it’s about loving Jesus so much that talking about Him becomes second nature. Sow seeds generously, trust God with the harvest, and watch what He does.

Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/    Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Today’s episode will help us understand the power of prayer and fasting, how to incorporate them into our daily lives, and why they are essential for personal and community transformation. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Leading by Example: Principle #3 of Disciple Making The Power of Radical Prayer and Fasting | Disciple Makers Podcast Join Jason Ishmael and Josh Howard as they dive deep into the fourth core disciple-making principle: the significance of a radical prayer and fasting culture. This episode covers the impact of prayer and fasting on spiritual movements and personal transformation, backed by biblical insights and historical examples. Learn practical tips to incorporate these practices into your life and community to see profound spiritual breakthroughs. Perfect for anyone looking to deepen their spiritual journey and impact the world for Christ. Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Banter 03:09 Disciple Making Principles Overview 03:38 Principle 4: Radical Prayer and Fasting 04:18 Practical Applications of Prayer and Fasting 04:36 Biblical Foundation for Fasting 07:41 Personal Reflections and Encouragement 10:31 Tips for Starting Fasting 13:20 Examples of Fasting in Ministry 16:23 Practical Steps to Begin Fasting 17:46 Pressing into God's Presence 18:27 Physical Actions with Spiritual Implications 19:43 The Benefits of Fasting 20:52 Practical Tools for Prayer and Fasting 26:14 Evaluating and Adjusting Your Cravings 28:33 Intentionality in Prayer and Fasting 32:20 Conclusion and Call to Action   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into the power of prayer and fasting in a disciple’s life and their impact on spiritual movements. They break down the biblical foundation, historical examples, and practical ways to incorporate these practices into daily life and ministry. The conversation kicks off with lighthearted banter before shifting to the episode’s core theme: cultivating a culture of radical prayer and fasting. Josh emphasizes that some of the most impactful church movements rely on these disciplines, citing historical revivals that began with a few dedicated people seeking God through prayer and fasting. Referencing Matthew 6, the hosts discuss how Jesus taught about fasting—not for public recognition, but as a way to deepen one’s connection with God. Jason points out a common misunderstanding: fasting isn’t just about giving up food—it’s about creating space for God to work. He shares how his church’s 21-day prayer and fasting tradition before Easter fosters spiritual renewal. Josh and Jason offer practical tips for getting started, urging listeners to begin with small steps—like skipping one meal a week to focus on prayer. They highlight the story of Charles Finney and Pastor Nash, who fasted and prayed before Finney’s revivals, underscoring how essential these practices were to their ministry’s success. The hosts also touch on the scientific benefits of fasting, such as increased mental clarity and discipline. They introduce tools like Dick Eastman’s "prayer wheel" to help structure prayer time and emphasize the importance of silence in prayer—something Jason admits was a struggle for him initially. As the episode wraps up, Josh challenges listeners to take action—whether by fasting a meal a week, dedicating focused prayer time, or involving their community in these spiritual disciplines. They encourage listeners to share their experiences and reach out for support, reinforcing the idea that prayer and fasting aren’t just personal practices but catalysts for transformation in families, churches, and beyond.

Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/    Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Today’s episode will help us embrace authentic disciple-making by leading from the front, aligning our actions with our faith, and relying on the Holy Spirit for daily obedience. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr   Leading by Example: Principle #3 of Disciple Making   In this episode of 'The Makers of Disciples' podcast, we delve into the third principle of disciple making: leaders must lead from the front and model disciple making. Hosts discuss the challenges of practicing what is preached, the importance of personal and public alignment, and how to combat the dangers of 'charade mode.' Drawing upon personal anecdotes, biblical teachings, and the transformative power of living authentically, this discussion is a call to action for church leaders and individuals alike to repent, realign, and genuinely live out the teachings of Jesus. Join the conversation to be inspired and equipped to model true disciple making in your own community.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways    00:00 Introduction and Welcome 01:05 Principle Three: Leading from the Front 01:52 The Challenge of Authentic Leadership 04:48 The Danger of the Charade 09:39 Alexander the Great's Lesson 14:52 Reflecting on Missed Opportunities 15:28 Choosing Priorities Over God's Commands 16:37 Awakening to Reality: The Matrix Analogy 17:52 Modeling Discipleship in Everyday Life 19:17 Rediscovering Ancient Principles 20:36 The Power of Scripture and Jesus' Teachings 25:58 The Importance of Repentance 28:38 Striving for Obedience and Dependence on God 29:38 Closing Thoughts and Prayer   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: In this episode of the Makers of Disciples podcast, Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into Principle 3: Leading From the Front—the tough but essential call for leaders to model disciple-making, not just talk about it. They kick off with some lighthearted banter before getting real about the challenge of practicing what you preach. They revisit the first two principles: reclaiming disciple-making as the church’s core mission and having a clear, biblical definition of discipleship. But this third principle? It’s where the rubber meets the road. Josh shares a hard truth—many church leaders, behind closed doors, admit they’re not actively leading people to faith outside of the pulpit. This gap between what’s preached and what’s practiced creates what they call “charade mode”—a dangerous disconnect where leaders appear to be disciple-makers but aren’t living it out. The discussion gets practical. Jesus warned against performing faith for show, and Josh and Jason emphasize that leading from the front means real, everyday disciple-making. It’s not just for pastors—every Christian is called to model it at home, at work, and in their communities. They illustrate this with a powerful story about Alexander the Great. When a young soldier named Alexander fled from battle, the general told him: Change your name or change your ways. The message? If we call ourselves disciples of Jesus, we need to live like it. Josh highlights the need for daily repentance—not just for major sins, but as a constant realignment with Jesus. Jason stresses soaking in the Gospels, letting Jesus’ life shape our own. They remind listeners that disciple-making isn’t about striving alone; it’s fueled by the Holy Spirit, who empowers believers to walk this out every day. They also acknowledge the internal struggle—Paul himself wrestled with doing what’s right (Romans 7). But leaning on God's grace and being intentional about obedience is the key. As the episode wraps up, Josh challenges listeners to commit to modeling disciple-making and tell someone for accountability. Jason encourages leaning into God’s help and staying rooted in His Word. They close with a powerful prayer, asking God to bring conviction, expose what needs to change, and strengthen hearts for the journey ahead. At its core, this episode is a call to authentic, everyday disciple-making—not as a concept, but as a lifestyle.

Join us at the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/national-disciple-making-forum/  Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/    What is a Disciple? A disciple is someone following Jesus, being changed by Jesus, and joining the mission of Jesus. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr The Disciple Makers Podcast: Understanding Clear Biblical Definitions   In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, hosts delve into the second principle of disciple making: the importance of using clear biblical definitions. Featuring mega church pastor Jason Ishmael and prolific disciple maker Josh Howard, this episode explores what it truly means to be a disciple and the transformative journey of following Jesus. The hosts discuss the definitions from Matthew 4:19, emphasizing the three core components of being a disciple: following Jesus, being changed by Jesus, and joining Jesus's mission. They also examine the implications for church leaders and the necessity of creating pathways that lead to effective disciple making. The episode concludes with practical advice for stepping out in faith and taking actionable steps to live out these principles. For more resources, visit discipleship.org and join upcoming events for further learning.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways    00:00 Introduction to the Disciple Makers Podcast 00:54 Defining Disciple Making 02:20 The Core Mission of Disciple Making 02:54 The Transformative Work of Jesus 06:12 The Cost and Worth of Following Jesus 12:57 Personal Reflection on Discipleship 13:41 Personal Reflection on Discipleship 13:57 Challenges for Church Leaders 14:14 Defining Discipleship 15:33 Head, Heart, and Hands Discipleship 16:28 The Power of Clear Definitions 17:22 The Reality of Change 19:40 Disciple Making Defined 23:28 Practical Steps for Disciple Making 28:25 Encouragement and Resources   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: Defining Disciple-Making In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael explore the second disciple-making principle: the importance of clear biblical definitions. Their lighthearted yet insightful conversation focuses on what it means to be a disciple and the core responsibilities involved in disciple-making. Why Clear Definitions Matter Josh emphasizes that without a clear definition of discipleship, confusion and inconsistency arise. He notes that asking 100 Christians for their definition of a disciple would likely yield 100 different answers. Clarity, he argues, is essential for effective disciple-making. What is a Disciple? A disciple is someone following Jesus, being changed by Jesus, and joining the mission of Jesus. Josh breaks this down into three key components—following, transformation, and mission—highlighting their central role in discipleship. Day-One Calling and Transformation Jason reflects on Jesus's call to His first disciples in Matthew 4:19, stressing that this transformative calling happened on day one—not after years of refinement. Following Jesus involves an ongoing process of change and closeness to Him. Challenges in Modern Christianity Josh points out that many Christians treat following and being transformed by Jesus as optional. He urges believers to move beyond shallow engagement and pursue genuine transformation through repentance, confession, and surrender. Head, Heart, and Hands Discipleship Jason shares Bobby Harrington’s framework for holistic discipleship: Head: Intellectual surrender to Jesus Heart: Experiencing transformation Hands: Actively engaging in Jesus's mission This framework aligns with the greatest commandment—to love God with all heart, mind, soul, and strength—and provides a balanced approach to discipleship. Defining Disciple-Making Jason underscores that disciple-making is intentional and relational. It’s about forming meaningful relationships that help others follow Jesus, experience transformation, and engage in His mission. Practical Steps for Church Leaders Josh and Jason challenge church leaders to develop clear, actionable discipleship plans—and ensure they’re implemented effectively. They stress the importance of guiding believers through intentional spiritual growth.   Overcoming Fear and Stagnation Jason acknowledges the fear many feel about stepping into disciple-making roles. Josh encourages listeners to embrace the process, trusting that God works through imperfections and initial missteps. Motivating Believers The hosts share strategies to engage believers, using personal stories and biblical examples to highlight the life-changing impact of true discipleship. Next Steps Josh recommends practical ways for listeners to evaluate their discipleship journey and create simple pathways for growth. He closes with an invitation to explore resources at discipleship.org and engage with the disciple-making community. Conclusion: This episode challenges believers and church leaders to define discipleship clearly and pursue intentional, relational disciple-making aligned with Jesus's mission. The hosts balance theological depth with practical advice, leaving listeners equipped and inspired.

Come to the 2025 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/   Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Today’s episode will help us understand why disciple-making should be the church’s core mission and how we can integrate it into our daily lives through prayer, intentional relationships, and simple, faithful steps. Stay Informed - Get our newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hPViAr Disciple Making: Making It the Core Mission  Welcome back to the Disciple Maker's Podcast! In this episode, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael embark on a new series focusing on the '10 Core Principles of Disciple Making.' This episode dives into making disciple making the core mission of the church. Jason and Josh discuss why it's important to remind the church and individuals that disciple making should be the core mission. They share personal stories, confront the common disconnect between knowledge and action, and provide practical steps on how to make disciple making integral in our personal lives and within the church. Join us as we explore the significance of intentionality, prayer, and the importance of hands-on disciple making. Stay tuned for more insights and real-life stories aimed at equipping you to fulfill the Great Commission. Don't miss out on the details of upcoming events, including the Discipleship.org National Disciple Making Forum in Houston, Texas.   Get Discipleship.org's premium Podcast Feed: https://disciplemakerspodcast.supercast.com/    Key Takeaways    00:00 Introduction and Banter 01:04 Introducing the 10 Core Principles of Disciple Making 01:41 Principle 1: Making Disciple Making the Core Mission 03:24 Challenges in Prioritizing Disciple Making 04:42 Personal Stories and Practical Applications 05:56 The Importance of Personal Commitment 10:29 Evangelism and Disciple Making: A Unified Mission 11:49 Practical Steps for Effective Disciple Making 17:05 Conviction and Commitment to Prayer 17:49 Praying for a Doctor Friend 19:25 Overcoming Fear to Pray 20:33 A Miraculous Healing 22:26 The Power of Intentional Prayer 24:20 Facing Rejection in Evangelism 27:38 Encouragement to Make Disciples 29:48 Final Thoughts and Call to Action   Check out our Blogs: https://discipleship.org/blog/  See Below for a longer description: In the first episode of the Disciple Maker’s Podcast, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into the heart of disciple-making, breaking it down in a way that’s both practical and relatable. They kick things off with some lighthearted banter before getting serious about their core message: making disciple-making the central mission of both the church and individual believers. Josh introduces the podcast’s framework—10 Core Principles of Disciple-Making—developed by him and Bobby Harrington. Each episode will unpack one principle, starting with the foundational idea: disciple-making must be the church’s primary focus. While this seems obvious, they acknowledge that many churches still struggle to put it into practice. Jason challenges the audience by pointing out the gap between knowing disciple-making is essential and actually doing it. He shares his own struggles in aligning his life with Jesus’ teachings—like when his wife’s blunt question about tithing revealed an area he hadn’t fully surrendered. Moments like these highlight how disciple-making isn’t just for pastors—it’s a calling for every believer. The conversation turns to practical steps. Josh and Jason emphasize that disciple-making isn’t a lofty goal but something woven into everyday life. Josh shares a personal story about being convicted for not praying for non-believers, leading him and his wife to start praying daily. This simple act opened doors, including a surprising ministry opportunity with a previously resistant doctor. They stress that disciple-making happens in small, intentional relationships—"ones, twos, and threes," not massive crowds. It’s about praying for people by name, being available, and stepping out in faith. They also tackle the misconception that evangelism and discipleship are separate tasks, reinforcing that Jesus saw them as one mission: leading people to faith and maturity. Before wrapping up, they preview a major study on thriving disciple-making churches, which will be shared at an event in Houston, Texas. Their final challenge? Don’t overcomplicate it. Trust God, take small faithful steps, and make disciple-making a natural part of life. This episode is both inspiring and practical—packed with real stories, honest struggles, and clear next steps for anyone looking to live out the Great Commission. In the first episode of the Disciple Maker’s Podcast, hosts Josh Howard and Jason Ishmael dive into the heart of disciple-making, breaking it down in a way that’s both practical and relatable. They kick things off with some lighthearted banter before getting serious about their core message: making disciple-making the central mission of both the church and individual believers. Josh introduces the podcast’s framework—10 Core Principles of Disciple-Making—developed by him and Bobby Harrington. Each episode will unpack one principle, starting with the foundational idea: disciple-making must be the church’s primary focus. While this seems obvious, they acknowledge that many churches still struggle to put it into practice. Jason challenges the audience by pointing out the gap between knowing disciple-making is essential and actually doing it. He shares his own struggles in aligning his life with Jesus’ teachings—like when his wife’s blunt question about tithing revealed an area he hadn’t fully surrendered. Moments like these highlight how disciple-making isn’t just for pastors—it’s a calling for every believer. The conversation turns to practical steps. Josh and Jason emphasize that disciple-making isn’t a lofty goal but something woven into everyday life. Josh shares a personal story about being convicted for not praying for non-believers, leading him and his wife to start praying daily. This simple act opened doors, including a surprising ministry opportunity with a previously resistant doctor. They stress that disciple-making happens in small, intentional relationships—"ones, twos, and threes," not massive crowds. It’s about praying for people by name, being available, and stepping out in faith. They also tackle the misconception that evangelism and discipleship are separate tasks, reinforcing that Jesus saw them as one mission: leading people to faith and maturity. Before wrapping up, they preview a major study on thriving disciple-making churches, which will be shared at an event in Houston, Texas. Their final challenge? Don’t overcomplicate it. Trust God, take small faithful steps, and make disciple-making a natural part of life. This episode is both inspiring and practical—packed with real stories, honest struggles, and clear next steps for anyone looking to live out the Great Commission.