Beyond Jaws: Exploring Shark Science and Conservation

Shark conservation: What does it take to go from growing up on Lake Erie to tagging great white sharks around the world? This episode reveals the surprising twists and setbacks that shaped Dr. Taylor Chapple's career including the moment he thought he lost his future in research and how that failure became the most important turning point of his life. He shares the non-linear path that led him to global shark research from Cape Cod to California to Oregon and what he learned about persistence, curiosity, and opportunity along the way. Marine biology careers: Taylor also opens up about the realities of science careers, how early opportunities in AmeriCorps and education informed his approach to research, and the moment when a population-modeling talk flipped a switch in his mind and made him want to become a serious shark scientist. His story shows why career journeys are never straight and why the skills you gain outside your plan can become the key to your future. A surprising insight: Taylor thought he was headed into a traditional academic career, but it was losing a graduate position and winding up on a Puget Sound education ship that changed everything and set him on the shark science path. It was the setback that opened the door.   Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lostsharkguy Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpeakUpForBlueTV  

Guitarfish genetics take center stage in this inspiring episode as Bryan Huerta shares how his fascination with sharks at the massive La Nueva Viga fish market in Mexico City sparked his entire scientific path. His early curiosity grew into formal research that now examines the guitarfish sold as Pez Diablo in Mexican markets, where he used molecular tools to identify species and highlight conservation concerns.  Marine conservation research also shaped Bryan's career through field experience in the Northern Gulf of Mexico where he helped run longline surveys, learned dissection and biological sampling, and worked with leading shark scientists including Dr. Marcus Drymon and Dr. Nicole Phillips. His story illustrates how dedication, language learning, and crossing borders opened doors in science and advanced important work in the genetics and management of threatened rays.  Shark research careers come to life in this conversation that highlights Bryan's upcoming PhD, his marathon-running discipline, and his commitment to filling knowledge gaps for understudied elasmobranchs. His journey offers a roadmap for aspiring scientists navigating international education, language barriers, and the practical challenges of breaking into the shark science world. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lostsharkguy Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpeakUpForBlueTV  

Shark Identification Training In this episode of Beyond Jaws, Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert welcome back Dr. Ivy Baremore from MarAlliance to talk about an incredible deep-sea shark identification workshop held in Honduras. The workshop brought together scientists, students, and even local diving enthusiasts to learn how to identify some of the most mysterious sharks in the Caribbean. Ivy shares what inspired the training, how it came together after nearly a decade of planning, and why empowering local researchers is the first step in conserving deep-sea species. Deep Sea Conservation in Honduras Dr. Baremore explains the challenges of shark research in Honduras, where the nation's waters cover more area than its land, yet much of it remains unexplored. She describes how limited taxonomy resources and few local experts make workshops like this essential for future conservation. David and Ivy also reveal some of the surprises that came up during dissections, including unexpected findings in gulper sharks, and how this work is helping create national plans for shark and ray conservation across Central America. Training Tomorrow's Marine Biologists The conversation dives into how community involvement from students as young as 13 to professional divers helps build local ownership of ocean science. The episode captures the joy, curiosity, and collaboration that come from working hands-on with sharks, showing how education and science communication are transforming the future of marine biology in developing regions. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lostsharkguy Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpeakUpForBlueTV    

Madagascar Environment takes center stage in this episode of Beyond Jaws, where co-host Dr. David Ebert shares stories from his latest fieldwork on one of the planet's most unique islands. From long days on the water to surprising new shark encounters, David reveals what makes Madagascar such an incredible place for marine research and conservation. This episode dives into the realities of working in remote field conditions, the thrill of discovering new species, and the importance of connecting local communities to conservation goals. Madagascar's waters hold a mix of mystery and urgency, and David's insights show why protecting this environment matters not just for sharks, but for ocean health worldwide. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Ghost Sharks are some of the most mysterious creatures in the ocean, and in this episode, we explore their story with Dr. Dominique Didier. She joins us to talk about her groundbreaking new book Ghost Sharks of the World, which she co-authored with Dr. Dave Ebert and others. From taxonomy and biology to personal stories of research, Dominique reveals why ghost sharks deserve as much attention as their shark and ray relatives. Ghost Sharks fascinate both scientists and ocean enthusiasts because of their evolutionary significance. In this conversation, Dominique shares her career journey, the challenges of documenting such elusive animals, and how collaborative science projects bring together experts from across the globe. Listeners will leave with a deeper appreciation of chimaeras and their role in the marine ecosystem, along with insight into how new scientific tools are expanding our knowledge of these deep-sea species. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Sharks and hurricanes: that's not a Sharknado sequel, it's real research. In this episode of Beyond Jaws, Dr. Aaron Carlisle shares how a childhood moment of terror watching Jaws turned into a career in shark science. Aaron is now an Assistant Professor of Fisheries Ecology at the University of Delaware, where he explores how the physical and biological environment influences shark behavior, distribution, and ecology using cutting-edge tools like stable isotopes and biologging. Sharks and hurricanes also becomes a metaphor for navigating the whirlwind of academic expectations and public perceptions. From family members telling him to study "something important like crabs" to dealing with the rise of social media influencers as "shark experts," Aaron reflects on what it really means to be a marine biologist in today's world. If you're a student, early-career scientist, or just a shark nerd, this episode offers career insights, research stories, and a candid look at the culture of science. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Shark Conservation has been shaped by the tireless work of scientists like Leonard Compagno. In this episode, Andrew speaks with the legendary ichthyologist whose contributions to shark taxonomy and conservation have influenced generations of researchers and advocates. Compagno shares how he became fascinated by sharks, his groundbreaking work cataloging shark species, and his role in shaping the IUCN Shark Specialist Group. Shark Taxonomy is at the core of Compagno's career, and his insights into the classification and identification of sharks reveal why proper taxonomy is critical for conservation. Andrew and Leonard discuss the challenges of naming and describing species, the importance of understanding diversity in shark populations, and how science can support stronger protections against overfishing and finning. Shark Research is not just about science but also about communication. Leonard reflects on the changes in public perception of sharks since he began his career, and how media, advocacy, and dedicated researchers have shifted the narrative from fear to fascination. This episode gives listeners a deep appreciation of both the man and the movement he helped create.   Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Shark Science Career Advice: In this episode of Beyond Jaws, we sit down with Kenzie Horton, a passionate early-career shark biologist who's turning childhood snorkel trips into a mission to protect sharks and educate the public. From chasing fish with a disposable underwater camera to studying white shark migration off the Carolinas, Kenzie's story is one of drive, persistence, and unshakable curiosity. She discusses the ups and downs of becoming a marine biologist, how she found her way into shark research, and what she's learned through internships, grad school, and outreach. White shark research: Kenzie walks us through her master's thesis on white shark movements, her work at the Florida Fish and Wildlife Research Institute, and the importance of finding mentors who believe in your goals. She talks candidly about the challenges of breaking into the field, why she turned to TikTok to inspire others, and how she's navigating career decisions post-graduation, including the possibility of a PhD. If you're dreaming of a career in shark science or just love a good marine biology story, this is a must-listen. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ken.seas/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ken.seas Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Shark science isn't just about understanding biology, it's about tackling the global forces that threaten these species. In this episode of Beyond Jaws, research scientist Chris Mull explains how international trade has become a powerful driver of unsustainable shark and ray fisheries. From luxury markets for shark fins to emerging demands for meat and cartilage, trade dynamics are reshaping conservation challenges worldwide. Shark conservation must consider the economics and policies behind fishing, not just the science in the water. Chris describes his work using phylogenetic comparative methods and applied research to uncover how trade pressures intersect with species traits, creating unique risks for different sharks and rays. Along with hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert, Chris shares insights into what the data reveals about overexploitation, the complexity of global markets, and how science can inform better international regulations. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Deep sea exploration is more than science—it's an invitation to connect with the largest, least understood part of our planet. In this episode, Jonatha Giddens, a PhD researcher from the University of Hawai'i, shares how her global work on deep-ocean ecosystems blends scientific discovery, creative communication, and human connection. From working aboard research vessels to translating complex ocean data into emotional stories, Jonatha explores how we can better understand and protect the deep sea. Ocean storytelling is central to her approach. Jonatha discusses how she uses writing, visual media, and community engagement to spark public curiosity and care for deep-ocean environments. This episode highlights the power of science when paired with creativity, and how researchers like Jonatha are helping to shift the way we relate to the sea—turning data into wonder and insight into action. Connect with Jonatha: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonatha.giddens Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathagiddens/   Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Shark Week 2025 takes center stage in this conversation with Jesse Colaizzi, one of the producers behind the most-watched week in ocean television. We go behind the scenes of what it takes to pitch, plan, film, and deliver a compelling Shark Week segment, how ideas are selected, and how shows make the leap from concept to global audience. Jesse also discusses what it means to represent sharks accurately while keeping the drama that draws millions of viewers each year. Ocean storytelling comes into sharp focus as Jesse explains the pressure to entertain while maintaining scientific integrity. We discuss the actual process of working with experts, the surprises that occur during filming, and how Shark Week has evolved over time. Whether you're a filmmaker, a scientist, or a conservationist, you'll walk away with insights into the creative balance between TV ratings and accurate shark science. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

All The Sharks Netflix introduces us to a new way of seeing sharks—not as mindless monsters, but as awe-inspiring animals coexisting with skilled divers. In this episode of Beyond Jaws, Aliah Banchik, one of the contestants on the show, takes us through her experience competing in this thrilling underwater game show. She opens up about what it was really like swimming among sharks, the rigorous training involved, and the relationships she built with fellow contestants and apex predators alike. Aliah also discusses the emotional and physical toll of filming a show that centers sharks without villainizing them. She reflects on the shift in tone the show brought to shark storytelling, highlighting how production teams and divers worked to prioritize safety, education, and science over fear. This episode also explores Aliah's background in marine conservation and how she hopes to inspire others through her work in and out of the water. Aliah's Website: https://www.aliahbanchik.com/ Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Mick Grant is a postdoctoral researcher at James Cook University, and in this episode of Beyond Jaws, he takes us on a journey from his childhood passion for nature to working with some of the world's most elusive shark species. His story spans groundbreaking fieldwork in Papua New Guinea and Indonesia, including the rediscovery of species like the sailfin houndshark, and the challenges of conducting research in remote regions. River sharks and sawfish are among the most threatened species in our oceans. Mick shares insights into their ecology, the conservation policies affecting them, and what it takes to protect such cryptic animals. He also reflects on the importance of mentoring the next generation of shark scientists and how research can be turned into real-world action. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Why the 50th Anniversary of Jaws Still Matters for Shark Science The movie Jaws terrified audiences and demonized great white sharks, but it also inspired a generation of shark researchers and boosted funding for marine science. In this special anniversary episode of Beyond Jaws, co-hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert revisit the legacy of Jaws 50 years later. They speak with leading shark researchers—Lisa Natanson, Greg Skomal, and Chris Lowe, about how the film influenced their careers and the public's relationship with sharks. Shark science owes more to Jaws than you might think. This episode dives into the personal stories of scientists from the original "Jaws Generation," exploring how a horror film launched scientific careers, sparked public interest, and led to groundbreaking research on great whites. Whether you love or loathe the movie, its influence on conservation and marine biology is undeniable. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Shark Conservation drives today's conversation with Guido Leurs, a marine scientist whose research spans multiple shark species and explores how we connect with them through images and media. Guido shares his unique career path, from his early fascination to postdoctoral work, and how visual storytelling has played a critical role in understanding and protecting these misunderstood predators. Marine Science Communication is at the heart of Guido's journey. This episode covers the evolution of his work, from science diving and species identification to the broader social and ecological impacts of shark conservation. You'll also hear personal insights into the challenges of navigating academic paths, building a meaningful research career, and inspiring people to care about sharks through compelling imagery and communication. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Learning about whale sharks with Dr. Simon Pierce reveals a world of mystery behind the ocean's largest fish. As co-founder of the Marine Megafauna Foundation, Simon shares surprising insights into whale shark behavior, global tracking efforts, and the challenges of conserving these gentle giants. A must-listen for anyone curious about ocean science and megafauna conservation. Marine MegaFauna Website: https://marinemegafauna.org/ Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Sharks: In this special bonus episode of Beyond Jaws, we dive deep into a fresh perspective on sharks through the eyes of marine biologist and science communicator Sophie Maycock. Sophie joins co-hosts Dr. David Ebert and Andrew Lewin to discuss her new book Shark: An Illustrated Biography, which not only showcases the beauty and complexity of these creatures but also challenges long-held misconceptions. Sophie: We explore Sophie's journey from her scientific background to becoming a published author, the creative process of writing about sharks, and why visual storytelling matters in science communication. Whether you're a shark lover or simply curious about how marine science can reach new audiences, this episode delivers inspiration, education, and deep respect for the ocean's most iconic predator. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Technical diving opens up a whole new world for shark researchers like Dr. Yannis Papastamatiou, who has built a career studying predator dynamics in some of the most remote and challenging underwater environments. In this episode, Yannis shares his global journey through the UK, Greece, California, Hawaii, and now Florida — explaining how each location shaped his shark research and conservation strategies. Shark science isn't just about getting close to these apex predators — it's also about the sophisticated diving techniques and equipment needed to study their behavior where most humans can't go. We dig deep into the importance of technical diving for accessing shark habitats, why it matters for predator-prey studies, and how science divers train for this demanding work. Whether you're into marine biology, scuba diving, or just love sharks, this episode will fascinate you.   Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG  

Sawfish shark conservation might not be the first thing that comes to mind when you think of sharks, but Dr. Barbara Wueringer is here to change that. Co-hosts Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert sit with Barbara to discuss her passion for sawfish and the incredible marine diversity in Cairns, Australia. Barbara shares her journey of starting her own organization, Sharks and Rays Australia, to maintain independence and focus on the species she loves most, the sawfish. Shark conservation takes many forms, and Barbara's approach is refreshingly hands-on and community-driven. We dive into the importance of local marine biodiversity, why certain sawfish species are overlooked, and how one marine biologist is making a big impact through education, research, and local collaboration. Whether you're an aspiring marine biologist or a shark enthusiast, this episode will inspire you with its focus on purpose-driven science. Sharks and Rays Australia: https://www.sharksandraysaustralia.com/ Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG    

In this episode of the Beyond Jaws podcast, we follow the inspiring journey of Adriana Gonzalez-Pestana, one of Peru's first shark biologists. She shares her experiences from working in Peru, writing a children's book on conservation, and moving to Australia to pursue her PhD. Join us as we explore her career, her research, and her passion for protecting sharks. Hosted by Andrew Lewin and Dr. David Ebert. Connect with us: Website: https://bit.ly/37TMqeKInstagram: https://bit.ly/3eorwXZ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondjawspodcast7591 Dave:  Website: https://www.lostsharkguy.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/3q1J9Q5 Andrew: Website: https://www.speakupforblue.com/ Instagram: https://bit.ly/37g5WkG